Guess Akin hasn’t apologized enough, or hasn’t crawled on his knees to the GOP establishment asking for forgiveness. What good does it do to even talk about this right now? Priebus should have ducked the question…he knows how to do that.

The party is ceding this seat to the Democrats….that’s a heck of a price to pay in my book….I keep hearing how we’re supposed to be in the business of beating Democrats…but not if it means supporting someone that has did indeed make a stupid comment….but is still the party’s nominee…

Brilliant

Akin needs to step down. Period. Let someone with a chance run. He can try another day. What a loser!

Mr. Priebus thanks for clearing things for us in MO because I have a message for you. If you push Mr. Akin out of MO race I not vote for his replacement. McCaskill actually stands a chance to win now because our party has tried to nullify our primary vote. Make no mistake this is war!

Unfortunately I don’t know what the fix priorities are. I do know that everything I’ve seen voiced as concerns here has been reported as bugs (plus others) to the nice folks working on the upgrade. They’ve been working on it literally around the clock. Some things, like putting back the Recent Comments block, was easy. Other things are made difficult by the very complex caching system that’s in use to make WordPress perform and scale to the Redstate level.

Bill S, one comment/problem about the comments column. Clicking on the comment just takes you to the diary, not the actual comment. It’s already frustrating, but on those diaries that end up having 200 or 300 comments, it’s gonna hurt. Something I hope is on the to do list. Thanks, and I’ll try to remember that patience is a virtue.

Thanks, Aaron! One down, a few more to go.

Not if they had the muscle to push Akin out, which is what should have happened.

Unless the Dems totally overplay this – and there’s that possibility – Akin’s idiocy has the potential to become a major issue in the campaign. Is it major? No. But the Obama Media will make it major and not enough voters pay attention so that could have a major impact in any number of races.

GOPhers talking about “putting the country first”… LOL!
WHERE’S THE DAMNED BIRTH CERTIFICATE?!?!

I think that Priebus and the RNC have shot themselves in the foot on this one. I say beat McKaskill, dump Harry Reid and get control of the Senate. Stay focused Reince!

Why would we expect the RNC to do anything other than choose the course that most benefits the Democrats and denigrates the non-Rockefeller Republican who made a mistake? Perhaps I’m having a senior moment and have forgotten all the times that the RNC supported Conservatives in the 5 decades I’ve been paying attention to politics, but I simply can’t recollect any sort of track record which makes this stupidity an aberration.

OK, willik, go online and give Akin the money he needs to wage a competitive campaign in Missouri. If Akin is popular enough, and Caskill/Obama/the national Democrats unpopular enough, wage a PR blitz. Go on the air. Move those poll numbers. PROVE to the rest of us that money spent on Akin is not money wasted.

Ace, it’s pretty lame to shift the blame to the RNC. If the RNC doesn’t cut ties with Akin, the Dems and the MSM will use that as a justification for asking every other GOP candidate, everywhere in the country, about Akin Akin Akin. They’ll use this as a tool to starve the GOP story of oxygen (to paraphrase Kos).

Money spent to try and save Akin in MO (and appease his supporters) is money that can’t be spent to help Allen in VA or Mandel in OH.

If Akin is as strong as his supporters say he is, then he should be able to turn these poll figures around. Here is a chance for the “So-Cons” to stick it to the Establishment. Have Akin pull his campaign up by its bootstraps. He should barnstorm around MO. Force McCaskill to deal with him. Let Mike Huckabee prove that he and the So-Con movement can be a force in GOP politics. MAKE Priebus pay attention. Murkowski made the GOP pay attention to her, by winning a write-in campaign.

I agree that Akin’s remark was foolish and insensitive, but I think the GOP’s refusal to help him is a mistake. If he’s not going to drop out, then the GOP should do all it can to help him win. He would be a big improvement over McCaskill.

Keep on drinking the kool aid. You believe anything the democrat party puts out there. Any rally Akin had put on in Primary have been packed. So keep believing fools talking that the only people supporting him are democrat McCaskill operatives. Akin lead his 2 opponents in funding through the entire primary. This doesn’t include the 8 million Brunner spent of his own money to destroy Akin. Akin was the last man standing. He is our primary winner and unless you think McCaskill should win re-election we had all better get behind him.

Not sending a dime, huh? Hmmm…I think I’ll adopt that position as well.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Reince.

Should Murkowski been ignored? HELL YES! She ran against her own party, what the heck does someone have to do the “cross the line”?

She should have been the junior independent senator from Alaska NOT the “senior” RINO senator from Alaska that reliably votes with the Democrats on key issues on powerful committees that our idiot “leadership” put her on.

The same is true of Snowe, with her record she should have been nowhere near the levers of power in a key committee, her RINO record was long ago established yet our “leadership” put her a position to maximize damage against our key interests.

Our “leadership” seems to see conservatives as the “enemy” as
they sure do seem to embrace liberals more readily.

Our “leadership” seems to see conservatives as the “enemy” as
they sure do seem to embrace liberals more readily.

That’s what bothers me – the amount of damage he is doing outside of the state. I support the Chairman on this – not one penny for Akin.

anybody wonder why “I” don’t contribute to the RNC or any “party”? I’d recommend to all those in Missouri – you stop giving money or support to the RNC – put your money on your candidate. Apparently Chairman (Mao) Priebus will be happy to have McCaskill back in the Senate rather than a conservative Republican.

Matter of FACT – I wouldn’t give the RNC any of my money anyway – You think you elect your senator and representative to represent you and your state – only to find out that they “OWE” their allegiance to the Party.

What will the establishment do when Akin WINS in Missouri and is seated in the Senate? He owes NO loyalty to the Party of political correctness. When the Republicans FAIL to gain the Senate and Obama IS re-elected – what then?

was it really a “mistake”? or is it just a politically incorrect mistake? What are the REAL facts about what he said – can it be refuted – or all of you just up in arms because he, like many other believe that there are rapes and then there are incidents like the lacrosse team. too many females think they can play in the shark tank and not get bit – they wear skimpy clothes, drink too much, don’t pay attention to their surroundings, go to places that they should not be. NO, assault and battery rape by a stranger is one thing traumatic – but many of these “girls” wake up to find that they’ve been had – after leading some poor schmuck on – now they want t cry foul – when they essentially invited the sex.

Is he cratering in MO polls or just the national pundit polls?

What was “hateful” about his remarks?

This is an issue only if the RNC and other candidates allow it to be – they need to focus on their opponents and their record of supporting ObamaCare, TARP, the bailouts of GM – that’s going down again wanting more of our tax dollars for the unions.

You folks are so easily distracted over nothing and will let the prize escape if you don’t start behaving like adults instead of small squabbling children pointing fingers at each other. We already have a problem of having to check the ballot for Romney when in fact our vote is NOT for him but against Obama.

the sky is falling the sky is falling – run and hide chicken little.

Time to start a NEW Conservative Party – because it’s NOT the Republicans – they are the fleas on the dogs that are now infesting our government.

I know Todd Akin and he is no idiot.

Do not believe this Democrat stuff. The Teavangelicals are gathering for Akin and somebody is going to pay when this is all over.

What Hole? For Pete’s sake, he used a bad combination of words trying to describe a very legitimate and may I remind you, a very socially conservative, ideal.

The way some of you long term posters are crying here, one would think Akin asked for us to legalize pedophilia. Some of you should never again claim conservatism as your own as you have not shown it here with Akin. His words were poor, but the meaning was very right. You want perfect words, you got a perfect words clown in office right now. If you want values, vote em regardless of perfection. And when the dems tell you to get mad at a statement, you should ignore it as is the case here. We have made more of a big deal about it then they have. And again, he was speaking truth, not asking for more bailouts, legalized rape, pedophilia, let all the criminals out of prison, etc. Simple stated the life of the child is sacred and some claimed rapes are lies.

All of the anti Akin clowns need to get over yourself, concentrate on beating Obama, and help win the MO seat. Anything less is BS.

He’s not getting out … so get over it.

Honestly, the people who get air time and take it upon themselves to speak for socons – with no high level challenges – are idiots. And all the socons get the trickle down from that.

If you’ve got a problem with socons looking like idiots with one tooth you should think about how you get the idiots like FRC etal out of the political picture and let them go about ministry. The organizations are designed for ministry, they should stick to it and stay out of the political realm because they’re not doing “the cause” any good.

In 2008 they gave us Huckabee, this time around they gave us Santorum. Those two happen to be the least conservative candidates Republicans have run in decades – including Romney.

Frankly, we’d be a whole better off without them.

@redstate-eed77a7948ecd4087ef931b0faac64cb:disqus, just how naive do you want us to believe you are?

I’ve gotten mail from my liberal Texas buddy linking the Akin quote to veep nom Ryan .. this is not about forgiving a gaffe, this is about winning elections. Plural, kipling – electionS – not just the MO senate seat.

We can take the Senate without Akin. It remains to be seen whether Akin can figure out how to take out one of the most loathed and weakest politicians ever after – not his gaffe, kipling – his incompetent *handling* of his gaffe.

I know perfectly well you are not this naive, @kipling.

Mew

Real wordsmith eh? Go back to watching cartoons with your lib friends. Your beclowning yourself with your inaccurate posts on this topic.

First you say GOP is going to lose Missouri. Then you say that Todd Akin will win. Which is it? HUh? If you think Missouri will vote for Obama over Romney then your delusional.

Murkowski’s own party ended up voting for her in the general, and she held onto the seat she’d held for years.

Akin’s mistake wasn’t a grammatical one, and two full days went by between when he taped the interview, when it aired and when all hell broke loose. He saw no problem with it until everyone pointed and laughed, and then he furiously backpedaled. He just wants that senate seat, he and sees no other opportunity this late in his career.

MO has moved from solid Republican to a leaner. Akin is a drag on the national ticket, eroding Romney’s once large margin, and he will lose.

Akin said pregnancy from rape is impossible, so any woman who claims to have conceived in that way is a liar. There you go.

Response from Akin Campaign:
Perry Akin, campaign manager, released the following statement:

“Reince Priebus’ comments are extremely dissappointing. He claims the mantle of freedom, liberty and the good of America, but this betrays his apparent personal vendetta against Todd Akin. He is putting party power and political games ahead of the good of the country.”

As his name suggests, he’s probably drunk.

No, if Akin wants to thumb his nose at the party, he can another way to finance his campaign. Why does the GOP owe him anything?

You do have a short term memory and may even be going a bit crazy if you’ve missed Charlie Crist speaking at the DNC after Rubio beat him. The RNC gave Rubio plenty of support to beat Independent Charlie Crist now Democrat.

So if a RINO loses a primary it’s AOK to ignore the results.
Check, good to know. After all it’s her rightful seat, not some
icky conservative that might be a threat to the status quo. I’m use to establishment types telling conservatives
to sit down, shut up and mind their proper place.

But you know what, I’m not too thrilled we have a blue state
governor at the head of our ticket, you think it would be OK if I started a
write in campaign? Oh, that’s right, conservative
in the primary, republican in the general, unless of course it’s a conservative
then there’s an new set of rules.

I wonder what that rule would be, oh, I know: Conservative in the primary, never, ever a conservative
in the general, that just ain’t right!

This is not an idiotic statement (see below) and there are many conservatives who agree with it. The response by the Missouri Republican Assembly says it.

The question given to Senate-candidate Akin was about his stand relative to rape.
He said, ‘From what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,’ Akin said in an interview with KTVI-TV on Sunday. ‘If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist.’

The Missouri Republican Assembly Press Release appears below:

“Congressman Akin used the phrase ‘legitimate rape’ in the sense of an actual, ‘forcible rape’ as opposed to a claimed rape after consensual sex. He did not mean to imply that there is anything ‘legitimate’ about some rapes compared to others or intend to be insensitive about the trauma that is experienced by women in a rape situation. We’ve all chosen a word with more than one meaning before and we censure those Republicans who refuse to call Biden to task for his statements and yet throw one of our own under the bus by joining with Democrats in this misleading attack with ulterior motives. We call on all Republicans to accept the Congressman’s heartfelt and contrite apology offered by an honorable man. After all, Claire McCaskill supports partial-birth abortion and the Democrat platform contains a pro-abortion plank.

“Congressman Akin’s comment on the rarity of pregnancy following rape was initiated by, ‘… From what I understand from Doctors.’ Whether or not this is true (and it probably is as indicated by well documented studies) is immaterial, as the Congressman was relating that which the experts had told him. And the Congressman should be commended for standing by his convictions and being better informed than the general public or liberal media. The real issue is that if you believe that life begins at conception and you have taken an oath to defend life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, then you have to keep your focus on protecting all innocent life or risk multiplying one tragic situation into three. (Two for the mother and one for the baby.) The MRA commends Todd Akin for publicly stating that the child should not be punished for the sins of the father. That we are all endowed by our creator with Liberty and the pursuit of happiness has little meaning when deprived of life.

“The Republican leadership needs to grow a spine and disallow the Democrats, who always support their candidates even when they are wrong, to dictate our stance. By so doing we are now agreeing with the President that forcible rape and statutory rape are identical. While Todd may have been indiscreet in his word choice, he was not wrong in his facts. Todd can win despite this misstep. All Republicans will lose if they continue throwing their candidates under the bus because of a poor word choice. This is the first out, of the first inning in a long three months with many Democrat directed issues ahead. Issues and battles ahead which will be filled with lies and deception, for such are the tactics of our opponents. If we are unable to stand strong for our values it will be the Republican leadership that allows American exceptionalism to become a footnote in history.”

Never went out, Bill S. Red State went out in the middle of it.

Akin had his chance to show his political chops and win the issue, or to show his dedication to winning the Senate and step aside and chose .. neither.

Your *best* hope for getting rid of this, Bill S., is for Akin to win .. and your best hope for that to happen are for Perkins, Robertson, and Huckabee to fund him.

Mew

I am taking Priebus at his word on the scenario. If Akin and McCaskill were tied and he needed a push to make it over the top, then the RNC would not provide that push. If it is about winning elections, then Priebus would learn to squelch the issue instead of keeping it in the news cycle.

Of course the Democrats are going to link the issue to all Republicans. It is going to happen even if Akin exits the race. Instead of running his mouth and playing into the hands of the MSM, Priebus and the Republicans should let the issue die and stay focused on their message.

All Akin needs to do is put together a commercial with Obama speaking on behalf of infanticide and end by asking McCaskill on where she stands on the issue. He can close by stating: “I misspoke. President Obama and McCaskill would kill living, breathing children. Who do you want to vote for?”

Depends, @redstate-eed77a7948ecd4087ef931b0faac64cb:disqus … the Dems seem to think that running on a pro-abortion platform will work for ‘em… My thought is if they do it, it’s yet another slap at black pastors, among others. Also, catholics… if DEMCON is all about abortion, I wonder what bishop Dolan will say in his closing prayer for *them*, eh?

Renice is looking to splinter and defeat the Dems entire, not just McCaskill, so his statements and actions must be taken in a larger context than just MO GOP.

Mew

. . . respectfully, Bill S., that is simply not true.

Mew

kipling, if you really believe that, you’re a fool.

He’s the nominee…period…he won the primary….he’s the nominee of the party…we’re not the Democrats….this isn’t New Jersey….We don’t throw out the will of the voters like the Democrats do….

you can slice this pig up 100 different ways but the bottom is still the RNC is giving away a winnable seat to the Democrats

it’s as simple and unavoidable as that.

Maybe it’s escaped your notice Becker…but we’re not out there pushing ANYTHING….Prebus is the one out there running his mouth…as I said earlier….I’d rather see Akin gone myself….but I’m mad as hell that the RNC is making a calculated decision to hand McCaskle a seat for what? to prove a point?

It’s the RNC and Prebus handing the Dems a winnable seat because they refuse to conest the election with their petulance and childish crap…so….Who’s blowing what up here?

Not the point acat….in fact it’s entirely beside the point…

you just said yourself…the lapdog press just asked Ryan about Akin…so…dumping Akin hasn’t helped anything has it?

In fact…what it’s done is show…that if the Dems and the press squeal loud enough…the RNC will wet themselves and do exactly what the Dems and the press wants…

So/…They get the best of all worlds…they get to go on and on painting every Republicans as extremist using akin even though they spooked the party into dumping the nominee…AND…they get the bonus now of keeping MO as a D seat because the Bed Wetters in the establishment gave them exactly what they wanted…

From a Dem/Press standpoint…it’s Mission Accomplished….lets break out the champagne

Why can’t I find the discussion I was in earlier in this thread? I found a reply to one of my posts from acat and would like to reply to it…but can’t find the reply button on the comment….why can’t I view the entire thread?

I still can’t believe we did this on convention week…grrr

Do you have the internals of the poll, lineholder?

Tony Perkins, whose outfit commissioned it, have a clear conflict of
interest – it is in their best interest for Akin to do well, and ..
tada! .. a poll that shows he is.

At this point, I’ve seen two prior polls from MO that show very different things .. and when one looks at the internals, the one that shows Akin doing well was blatantly over-representing the GOP in the sample size.

I am not from MO, but .. I will believe this poll when I see the internals. Show me.

Mew

I thought about that, too. I’m trying to find one, acat.

As far as I’m concerned, we’re now to the point where it should be left up to the people of MO to decide this one on their own without interference from outside parties, especially those parties at a national level who could playing games because of old baggage and animosity.

It wouldn’t bother me one bit for the people of MO to get riled up and ticked off enough to prove to some people at a national level that this is still a country where the votes of the individuals (and states rights as well) do matter.

According to an analysis of a prior poll over at Ace of Spades (http://ace.mu.nu) MO went D+6 in 2008 and R+3 in 2010, so .. this sample size is adequate on it’s Repub-Dem balance, but way off on Independents.

I agree on popping the popcorn and seeing what happens … who knows, he may manage to pull this off …

Mew

Pretty sure RedState supported Akin in the primary as well. If I had spare change, I wouldn’t feel bad about sending it to Akin at all.

Wait, are you saying that you actually made a bet that Obama would be replaced?

Based on an article from last week, acat, backing him financially separate from the RNC was already in the works.

You know there was a comments/complaints article put up by Erick the other day, perhaps you should have commented there. And I agree with you, by the way.

Aaron, no. I’m saying I made *multiple* bets that Obama would stink on ice badly enough that the Dems would replace him.

Remember, cat is from Illinois and knew what Obama was early,.

Mew

One wonders, lineholder, whether that played into Priebus’ statement.

Casting Akin as a pariah-victim may help him, y’know.

Mew

It’s one thing to pressure the guy and replace behind the scenes, but for the REPS to publicly paint themselves in a corner calling for him to leave when they arent sure he will, is beyond STUPID!!!!