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The “Mitt Romney and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad – and oh, right, tied in Gallup – Month” Weekend Open Thread.

As has been noted here and here… what an awful month Mitt Romney is having.  Exhibit A: the Gallup tracking poll for September.

Absolutely horrendous.  Why, at this rate, Obama for America might even throw Mitt Romney into a…

…A…

…A briar patch.

Open thread.

Moe lane

PS: The polls go up.  The polls go down.

COMMENTS

  • jayjayson

    Even with the media having story after story about Romney being wrong, we know he is right. I would perfer to have a quick shooter that is right 90% of the time, then a stop and thinker that is right less then 10% of the time.

  • Tbone

    Journalists are so effing stupid that evidently they thought Baghdad Bob was telling the truth. How do I know this? They all seem to believe Carney.

  • jamesm

    This is a devasting graph from the Obama campaign’s perspective. They are nearly toast..but they want people to forget the national polls.
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/messina-forget-the-tied-national-polls-were-win

  • barleycorn

    Another awful month like this and Romney will be president.

  • CarolT

    Some of the “conservative” sites that I visit say that Romney has been a disaster this month. I do not agree. I emailed that man, I’m sure you can guess, the one that wanted Chris Christie as our nominee. MItt is doing fine, meanwhile Obama is lying and it is being seen by the public.
    I’m sick of people calling the race over when it most certainly is not. If people have doubts about Romney don’t put it in a magazine.
    Peggy Noonan is another one, what she’s written about his campaign this week is a disgrace. Peggy was in love with Obama in 2008 so we know she lost her republican credentials four years ago.

  • unapologetic_american

    It’s easy to forget how much money the Romney campaign has. I’d not be the least bit surprised if team Romney has their own little Obama-caught-on-video gaffe saved up for October. (That, and plenty of money to air it since the media can’t be trusted to.)

  • http://deadite.wordpress.com deadite

    I notice that the FoxNews polls only give the DRI mix. They don’t give any other. Considering that women are going for the Won by a larger margin, its perfectly possible that they tweaked the mix of men women to get a better result – for Obama. The only reason not to release the base statistics is because you are screwing with the results. There is no other.

  • http://www.justintribble.com Justin Tribble

    I think we’ve all succumbed in one way or another to the media garbage. We’re all influenced by it, even if as conservatives we completely reject it. All those seeds of doubt they plant have gotten to us, subconsciously.

    But as for Mitt, the guy doesn’t get bogged down in the mud. He stays on point. He just keeps plugging along. He doesn’t waste time trying to “explain” things, which I think is greatly to his credit.

  • humphreybogard

    As a Democrat, I absolutely agree with all of you. Romney should keep on doing exactly whatever it is he is doing.

  • MoeLane

    Thank you for showing us your fear.

    Now shoo. Grownups talking.

  • retrocon87

    I guess Axelrod didn’t sue Gallup well enough……. Honestly I don’t trust any of these polls anymore… Romney will win if he can manage to nail the debates.

  • http://jakespeaks.wordpress.com/ Jake

    I am going to vote against Barack Obama this November, and I am going to have FUN doing it!

  • proudmarinemom

    What is this “we” nonsense? I haven’t trusted the MSM since 1980. There have never been any seeds of doubt planted here.

    And what’s up with calling Gov. Romney “Mitt”? That’s a little strange.

  • macbookben

    Polls, eh? Here’s my proposal. If everyone who fully intends to vote for R&R would get an envelope/post card, and a stamp, and address it to

    Romney for President, Inc., PO Box 149756, Boston, MA 02114-9756,

    and include the message, ” I am voting for you and also for the Republican candidate in my home district’s congressional seat, then the media will be in no position to ignore tens of millions of letters being delivered by the truckload in support of our candidate. If you’re old enough to remember “Miracle on 34th Street,” or maybe you participated in the Chik-Fil-A appreciation day last summer, you will believe in the impact such a letter writing campaign can have. And it will dumbfound your polsters and their Republican and Democrat analysts.

    PS: Fire for effect. Get the message out now and shoot the entire wad on the same day, maybe in the next week or two.

  • jaykali

    Holy cow that graph is pretty great. Romney is not in bad shape even with the MSM doing everything they can to create a caricature of him as an out of touch rich guy unfit for office.

  • earlgrey

    Don’t ever change Moe

  • skip1982

    This month has proved that even if Obama made some gigantic debate blunder, the media won’t care and won’t cover it. Meanwhile, anything Romney does at the debate will be magnified forever. It doesn’t help that the only 2004 blue state he has a (slight) chance of taking is Wisconsin, which means we are always on the defense. Hard not to feel depressed.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Would be a LOT more effective if you simply sent a $10 donation with the message. 10 million $10 donations would blow the doors off a lot of Obama campaign FUD.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Romney campaign does not have more than Obama campaign, if you just compare campaigns. Money matters less than messaging, and unfortunately, the Obama friendly media has been driving the messages far away from the key themes:
    1. We have a weak and poor economy.
    2. The weak economy is due to Obama’s bad job-killing policies.
    3. Gov Romney has a better plan.

    Obama is a failed incompetent President. His only skill is actually campaigning, but that skill and his dishonest, do-anything-to-win, artful campaign of distraction is working its magic. That Gallup result is saying its a 50/50 race now.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Had the polls been reversed, we’d be seeing the liberal media write “Obama surges from behind” stories.

  • Blue_State_Refugee

    Can anyone comment on Dick Morris’ take?

    I read his article on DickMorris.com. I have not been down in the weeds of the sampling composition of the various polls. (Ironically, I teach statistics on the side.) Seems to me if claim that these polls are oversampling democrats and young voters, we have a complicit press corp trying to do their best to depress conservative voters. Unfortunately for them, this won’t work. We’re as mad now as we were in 2010.

  • fightnright

    Some of her writing can be champagne, but put an elite metrosexual male in the room with Peggy Noonan and it engages her drool and pant reflex.

  • rodguy911

    Here’s the key thing about what Morris is saying,the independent vote almost always goes for the challenger.Here are a couple of paragraphs of his statement.

    Almost all of the published polls show Obama getting less than 50% of
    the vote and less than 50% job approval. A majority of the voters
    either support Romney or are undecided in almost every poll.

    But the fact is that the undecided vote always goes against the
    incumbent. In 1980 (the last time an incumbent Democrat was beaten), for
    example, the Gallup Poll of October 27th had Carter ahead by 45-39.
    Their survey on November 2nd showed Reagan catching up and leading by
    three points. In the actual voting, the Republican won by nine. The
    undecided vote broke sharply — and unanimously — for the challenger.

    An undecided voter has really decided not to back the incumbent. He just won’t focus on the race until later in the game.

    So, when the published poll shows Obama ahead by, say, 48-45, he’s really probably losing by 52-48!
    Add these two factors together and the polls that are out there are
    all misleading.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I really really hope that is correct, And it jibes with the feeling I have about the election. But the bad part is that Dick Morris has a horrible track record of predicting elections.

  • inovrmihd

    If Romney was running a competent campaign, he would be winning hands down. He is failing to give a clear message on what he plans to do (vague ideas like reforming Fannie Mae won’t cut it). Additionally, he is letting Obama define too many issues. Why, for example, isn’t he pointing out that John Corrzine got a free pass after mfglobal cheated a bunch of farmers out of their life savings as an example of the crony capitalism of the Obama administration? While that particular example might not have a lot of direct relevance to swing voters in Florida, it is but one example of the crony capitalism that everyone despises. It would be one thing if Romney had limited resources, but by all accounts his campaign has more money than they know what to do with. Why hasn’t he replayed obama’s 2009 speeches that by the end of the year they would know if Iran was serious about building nuclear weapons, and his subsequent lack of action. Why isn’t he pointing out that the only way Netanyahu can get a face to face meeting with obama is to through him a fund raiser? When Obama claims Romney would role back regulations on banks, why doesn’t Romney point out that Obama gave promotions to those who were responsible for bank over site such as Tim gietner and has made the too big too fail banks even bigger? There are so many ways to paint Obama as a hypocrite, but Romney doesn’t throw punches. If the posters on redstate are right and that he is in better shape than the polls would suggest, it is in spite of his weak campaign, not because of it. Would Christie, walker or any of the rising stars in the Republican party run such a Luke warm, non specific campaign. Romney

  • Melody Warbington

    Nope. Some of us are too busy with GOTV and door-knocking to bother with what the MSM says.

    Plus, I haven’t watched network morning shows or nightly news since the 2000 election cycle. MSNBC and sister sites are blocked, and I haven’t watched the Commie News Network in years after having gotten my fill of Ted & Jane when I lived in Atlanta. Like the old-timers say, I don’t need to step in cow manure to know it stinks.

  • Melody Warbington

    Nope. It is in spite of Obama having the full and dishonest support of the MSM which has given him built-in name recognition since he first appeared on the scene. It is in spite of a large number of folks wanting an entitlement system and another part paying little to no attention. It is in spite of too many on our side being involved in the process once every 4 years and doing little more than whining about how bad our candidate is while doing nothing to help groom and support candidates on the local level who end up being our state and national candidates (while liberals are at work constantly and are already at work on the next local elections wherever they may be, not to mention in the courts). It is in spite of folks demanding the perfect candidate and campaign yet can’t be bothered to make a few GOTV calls, donate a few dollars or knock on a few doors and then have the gall to make comments seemingly designed to do little more than discourage those of us who are working.

  • spandrel

    These are registered voters, not likely ones, though LVs tend more to the GOP than the RVs. On the other hand, the long run – and one more day of polling – paint a slightly different picture:
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/150743/Obama-Romney.aspx

    Of course, what really matters is the Electoral College vote, about which Gallup remains ridiculously silent.

    Bottom line: polls are more trouble than they’re worth.

  • Viet71

    I understand the media but not the polls, except that polls apparently have a feedback effect.

    Anyway it all comes down to the debates. Obama will have it easy with questions like, “How do you stand on a woman’s right to choose?”.

    Romney needs to appear strong and critical of Obama’s handling of government without appearing to be critical of Obama.

    Romney’s going to have the tougher job. My sense is he’s up to it.

    I think the debate format plays to Romney’s strength and Obama’s weaknesses. Obama will spout platitudes. Romney can deliver substance.

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