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The Sins Of The Sin Tax

Government Does Well, The Corporation Does Well and Two Out Of Three Ain’t Bad!

Economist Paul Samuelson was once asked to explain how sin taxes worked. He offered up the following commentary.

“Sin Taxes” are so called because they are levied on those commodities, such as tobacco and alcohol, which are the objects of widespread disapproval. “Such taxes,” Paul Samuelson says, “are often tolerated because most people–including many cigarette smokers and moderate drinkers–feel that there is something vaguely immoral about tobacco and alcohol. They think these ”sin taxes“ stun two birds with one stone: the state gets revenue, and vice is made more expensive.”

(HT: Acton Institute)

This is absolutely what has happened in New York since Barack Obama and Mayor Bloomberg have decided they would levy exorbitant sin taxes on tobacco products in New York City. Newsday.com describes the destructively regressive nature of the sin taxes on tobacco below.

A new study shows low-income smokers in New York State spend 25 percent of their income on cigarettes, a finding that led a smokers’ rights advocate to say it proves high taxes are regressive and ineffective. “The poor pay $600 million in cigarette taxes and get little help in quitting,” said Russ Sciandra of the American Cancer Society. He said state statistics show smokers earning less than $30,000 pay 39 percent of state and city taxes on cigarettes.

Mr. Sciandra hopefully won’t wilt from shock or surprise. Tobacco is an addictive product, causing the addicts to have an abnormally low price elasticity of demand. Once a consumer is addicted to the coffin nails; he hesitates to stop smoking them when the price goes up. You can tax them and tax them again and they don’t quit smoking. This is why advocates of legalizing other addictive substances such as THC will frequently advertise the advantages of potential tax revenues. It’s not like Cheech and Chong intend to drink Ginger Ale instead of lighting it up and then burning it down.

Let’s face it. Government doesn’t want the poor to quit smoking. They can’t pay for SCHIP without it. The possibility of levying sin taxes against addicted consumers that nobody has any sympathy for allows governments to get away with large-scale malfeasance. An example of this nearly occurred in my own state, Alabama.

Alabama had successfully failed to plan for its financial future. The legislature projected a shortfall of over $M400 that it needed to withdraw from the state’s oil and gas trust to bolster its general fund. They successfully passed a referendum and stole the money to avoid having to budget intelligently and raise taxes.

Of course the Alabama State Legislature would have acted out of cowardice in the event the referendum failed. Their immediate Plan B was a big hike in tobacco and alcohol taxes. If you can’t raid the trust fund, pick on the poor and the addicted. Progressive Democracy at its finest! Sucking money out of the pockets of the addicted makes formulating intelligent programs and budgets unnecessary.

In the use of sin taxes to make up for the infeasibility of Obamacare, the fecklessness of Alabama’s State Legislature and the power-lust of New York Mayor, Dominus et Deus Michael Bloomberg, we see how tyranny is installed upon the backs of the defenseless and the weak. The true sin of the sin tax is that enables government to gain power, perform less well and then pass the costs of its failure to under-informed and less powerful citizens.

The company selling cigarettes stays awash in cash. The government gets to exploit some of the poorest and least capable members of society. People make money from sin taxes – two outta’ three ain’t bad! Except that the 3rd person is the average citizen that gets the negative externalities from increased poverty, the continued addictive consumption and from over-empowered government. Sin taxes are a hallmark of growing government tyranny.

COMMENTS

  • WA_Cowboy

    being from Washington State, home of some of the highest liquor taxes around, the same principle holds — the ones who buy the most liquor (per dollar of income) and therefore pay the most taxes are the ones who can least afford it. yes, a sin tax at its best. Not to mention that people will start to look for a black market or if reasonable, travel to neighboring states/countries where the sinful good can be gotten for less.

  • veritaseequitas

    I actually do not mind high taxes on alcohol and tobacco. After all, both of those things are ruinous to your health. You should at least have to pay in taxes what it is going to cost to keep your health manageable while you are busy ruining it.
    If you smoke and drink to excess or are obese, you should have to pay higher health insurance premiums as well.
    These are choices a person makes, why should healthy people, or people who abstain have to support your lifestyle?
    It is the same sort of argument you can use regarding free birth control. It is a woman’s choice to go screw her brains out. I do not want to have to pay for it.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    I’m cool w/ smokers paying more for health coverage. As an overweight American, I can understand why fat boys pay more as well. I’m also cool w/ making people pay for their own sexual accuterments. How that relates to deliberately aiming taxation at people who use addictive products is beyond me.

  • veritaseequitas

    But everything is taxed. Why deliberately tax food, or property, or clothing, etc? At least with the beer and cigs, when your lungs or your liver give out and you want the taxpayers to pay for your transplant or your oxygen or your medication, there could, theoretically, be some money set aside to pay for it. Of course, since our dear leaders cannot seem to stop spending money that is earmarked for other things, on anything, I suppose that would never really happen.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    The difference is in the elasticity of demand.
    I can buy fewer or less expensive clothing or food. Once you have a chemical dependency, that isn’t as easy a decision. I tend to think governments know this and cynically exploit people who are addicted to a substance because it makes their revenue stream more predictable.

  • fightnright

    And often there is such a misfire with the concept of targeted taxes. In terms of sweetened drinks, they are as often, if not more often, consumed by skinny folks as by overweight ones. It seems unfair that toothpick-thin teens, fit athletes and the naturally slender might pay higher or punitive prices for their sugared sodas than heftier people will pay for their supermarket carts filled with diet soft drinks (and also chips and cookies and processed junk food, if the truth be known) ::blushes:: =/

  • veritaseequitas

    Sorry, people can be addicted to expensive clothing, shoes, handbags, jewelry and the like. Those things don’t kill or cause medical issues, except maybe rehab for a shopping addiction. The real problem lies in the fact that EVERYTHING is taxed, more than the amount of tax that is levied. But thinking about the original premise of this article, I still believe that alcohol and tobacco which are killers, should be taxed at a higher rate.
    Addicts exploit themselves without the help of the government or anyone else. The addict will justify that next drink, shot, pipe, or pill and manage a way to inebriate themselves no matter what. The people that run the government are addicts too – they are addicted to spending, and they will also find a way to reliably increase their revenue stream.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    DeVine Gamecock Correction: Tariffs are less worse than income taxes. more later

  • ladisney

    If you want to make a ton of money levy a five cent tax on every stick of gum. It serves no useful purpose, gets left everywhere and has other peoples germs all through it. Besides, it just makes people look like cud chewing bovines. I’d bet tens of billions in tax revenue awaits the first state to do so.

  • ladisney

    Like state sponsored gambling, cigarette taxes are income redistribution (from citizens to politicians) imposed by progressives on the poor.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    YES ladi’! Gamecock is also against state-sponsored gambling but for legalized private sector gambling, taxed at the same rate as all other economic activity. more later

  • retrocon87

    “You can tax them and tax them again and they don’t quit smoking.” I was a pack-a-day smoker for a few years (one of the many bad habits I picked up in college) and wound up finally quitting a few months ago when Pat Quinn announced that he was jacking up the tobacco tax (again) by another dollar… so yeah it might be rare, but at least in some cases they do “kill the golden goose.” I had already tried to quit a few times, but this time whenever I got a craving all I had to do was think about how my fighting it off was making Pat Quinn’s job harder for him… and that did it.

  • tngal

    Damnit. Just tax text messages. (It won’t bother me much. I’ve sent 2. My last one came out <u*/ Yo*.) But, regardless, I've been told texting causes accidents on the highway and young people are especially susceptible. So, three dollars ($3) per message should bulk up our coffers and cut down on the texting while driving issue that municipalities are having. Addictive and revenue generator. Problem solved. Next earth shattering problem of the day?

  • Melody Warbington

    Is that the “bleep” feature of Disqus, tngal? LOL. This tax thing has you really upset.

  • macbookben

    …don’t forget the Pick Seven/Powerball scratch-offs sold at the corner discount tobacco and liquor store as the State’s conspiracy to grift off its most vulnerable consumer demographic, working poor welfare recipients, masquerades as another program instituted “for your own good.”

  • http://lvjohnston.blogspot.com/ lvjohnston

    This *is* a Disqus/Wordpress thing. I had the same experience with one of my first diary attempts (quickly set to private until I could figure it out…)

    It has something to do with the background formatting used by WordPress for the copy paste function. The same background formatting that *still* caused that diary to come out in a Courier font style. So, I now use notepad and then cut an paste into WordPress as that seems to eliminate the background formatting.

    Still haven’t figured out how to properly use it but I *do* like the “&#%@&@&#$” effect (like Sarge in Beetle Baily?), and it fits perfectly with the sentiment you were trying to express!

  • PowerToThePeople

    I do not smoke at all or drink very often, but the idea that because you do not do something, do not agree with something, that something may lead to health issues, or that you feel that it is bad behavior does not mean we should agree or be OK with the government punishing people for legal behavior.

    I do not know why people slather mayo, miracle whip, ketchup, ranch, etc on food as it leads to problems health wise, lets tax all of that higher. How about pop and other sugary drinks, candy bars, chips, etc. All of these things tend to lead to weight issues, health issues, so why not tax them higher.

    Where do we draw the line? Let us not try to fool ourselves into believing that the higher taxes are anything other than government taking more money and that it has nothing to do with future cost, so taxing a portion of the population higher than the rest is nothing more than invasive government. All your excuses for the behavior is nothing but silliness.

  • Dave_A

    Excise taxes – both sin and luxury – are one of the worst possible ways to finance government.

    Sin taxes make sense only as an alternative to outright prohibition (where the goal is to stop the activity, not profit from it)…

    And luxury taxes don’t make sense at all – as even if you accept the premise of ‘soaking the rich’ (which I don’t)… It just so happens that alot of what rich folks do for fun, is also what everyone else enjoys – just on a smaller scale… So you pass a ‘luxury tax’ on boats & the rich pay a little more for their yachts… But that same tax slams the guy who just got enough cash saved up for a 15′ fish & ski… And incidentally puts a whole bunch of not-giant-yacht boat-builders out of business when the market dries up…

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I have actually considered starting smoking as the price has risen as it became a luxury item!

  • Freiheit

    What? Where did you get that information that coffee is harmful? (Source?) As I’ve learned it caffeine is one of the much, much more beneficial drugs in the world.

  • Freiheit

    Less worse than income? I await the ‘more later’!

  • namohalko

    But coffee makes me more productive at work.

  • renl57

    In fact, caffeine can even fight an asthma attack. (Chemically it’s similar to theophylline, a traditional asthma medicine.) I know asthmatics who will drink a few cups of strong black coffee when they get a bad asthma attack and their usual rescue inhaler isn’t doing the job. It sure beats a trip to the hospital Emergency Room (and it’s a lot cheaper).

  • renl57

    But you may have the decision if you’re just starting out.

    A kid who is thinking about starting to smoke but who finds that the price of cigarettes is exorbitantly high (due to heavy taxation) might think twice about it.

  • renl57

    Hey, you can ruin your lungs with cigarette smoke.

    But after you get lung cancer and your medical insurer starts paying off on your hospital bills, the rest of us get stuck with higher premiums.

    At least if you’re taxed on your addiction, the rest of us can have lower taxes to compensate.

    It’s the mirror image of you claiming a tax credit for treatments and clinics that help you to quit smoking.

  • renl57

    The truth is, RS doesn’t like taxes. Any taxes.

    The revenue to pay for the Government has to come from somewhere.

    Maybe instead of diary after diary attacking this tax or that tax, we could have a diary on RS that describes which taxes RS finds legitimate and worthwhile.

  • commonsenseobserver

    To be honest, I’d rather have sin taxes than income or broad excise taxes. But no tax rate increases are needed on the federal level, and in many states.

  • PowerToThePeople

    No they do not. Few have quit because the price goes up and few decide not to smoke because of the price. I could not count for you the amount of smokers over my many years that have stated when the price goes above such and such amount, I am done yet they still smoke today even as the price for smokes has broken $5.

    Kids and young adults do not wake up one day and say to themselves, “Going to start killing myself slowly today, going to pick up smoking.” They start because it is “cool” and because of peer pressure and the never ending need to fit in. Price is irrelevant.

    It is wrong for the government to single out a set of the population just to ream them for more taxes on legal behavior just because for today it is not the OK thing to do. And if anyone thinks any of the so called “future care” taxes ever make it past today, got some beach front property to sell to you in Arizona.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    There was a recent effort to get legalized gambling here in AL. It was sponsored by some of the sorriest human scum that ever got their hands on a pile of venture capital. They would have won had they not run up against a state senator who wore a wire to a lobbying confab where they were attempting to buy votes in the AL legislature.

  • PowerToThePeople

    No one likes taxes, but you are wrong that those of us on here do not know or appreciate the fact that taxes are a necessary evil. We know the government must have money, our problem is the massive spending, entitlements, the piss poor budgeting, and so on. We also have a problem with people who think other should be punished for legal behavior just because they themselves do not engage in the behavior.

    The better question would be what are you willing to accept as far as singled out higher taxes on things you do just because someone else does not think you should do what you do. Are you OK with paying higher taxes because you drink pop, eat white bread, like mayo or Miracle whip, eat the yolks, like sugar an sugar products, go to church, etc? You, or course after reading your nonsense on this thread, will go out and let the government know you want to pay a higher tax than others for all of you “unhealthy and not everyone does what you do” behavior right? Put your petition up on here so we can see it, we would never want to see you as a hypocrite.

  • streiff

    maybe you should write one

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    So who do you believe deserves taxation? Oh, and are there any services currently provided by the USG that you, personnally would be willing to forego? If not, than it’s understandable that you’d be in favor of taxing other people. My final question is this. How much more do you believe you should be paying yourself?

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    and also hurts the guy who was running a fishing business for tourist in say Destin, FL…

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    >>>>>expensive clothing, shoes, handbags, jewelry and the like
    Please, forward a copy of the medical literature detailing the chemical dependencies triggered by the items you listed above. What withdrawal symptoms would my lovely wife suffer if next anniversary isn’t the one where I buy her a Louis Voitton original?
    >>>> The addict will justify that next drink, shot, pipe, or pill and manage a way to inebriate themselves no matter what.
    Which is exactly why these sin taxes are akin to playing rugby against a team of cripples.

  • macbookben

    Go Baptists!

  • grumpyKoz

    I believe that RS and it’s readers believe that Taxes for a Government which is TOO big and growing, that performs duties which it is NOT constitutionally allowed to do, and believes that Redistribution of wealth is not only a good thing but a right of it’s existence is NOT worthy of existing. So the reduction in taxes is a step in the direction of ‘starving the laviatan’ which oppresses us and invades our privacy.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    I stated above that I have no problem with Insurance companies charging higher premiums to smokers and others that consume substances that “can ruin” organs.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    But of course everyone will eventually die after an expensive last illness that costs “us”. But isn’t money actually saved overall when people die younger and so don’t have as many years of health maintenance costs? I think so.

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    It only counts if it’s total immersion!

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    I wish I could give this about +50!

  • Bill S

    Hear, hear.

  • macbookben

    Amen.

  • tngal

    http://www.pnf.org/coffeeedited041001.pdf
    Freiheit, here’s one source. Its from the pacific northwest foundation. A 5 page pdf with the pros and cons of coffee. I never said there no pros. I actually drink coffee morn, noon and nite. Regardless, you may want to read it if your under the illusion it has no effect on your systems. from the pdf: Coffee excites more rapid peristaltic movements of the intestines resulted in shorted transit times and less absorption of nutrients. It also has high Vitamin K , effecting coagulability of blood. Bad for people at risk of strok, HA and clots. There’s lots more in there too.
    But the point of my post was to show more people drink coffee than smoke. If we classify java as a “sin” and then tax the heck out of it then there would be a massive uproar. A much louder one than we get when increasing taxes on cigs and alcohol. Then maybe politicians would get the picture—quit taxing the “sins” so much.

  • Freiheit

    I’m no doctor, but a lot of what that document describes are just the effects of putting a stimulent in your body. For them to be concerned about that is a bit hypochondriactic unless you truely are concerned about getting caffeine headaches. :) Highfive though to a fellow coffee drinker. You sound like my kibd of girl, tngirl!! xD

    Overall I think you are spot on about the “sin” taxes too.

  • Freiheit

    +1 to PttP ; smoking is started because it’s a status and social activity. Whether a pack is $1 more or less is going to have little effect upon consumption. Besides, your body and your decisions. Government ought have no control or ibfluence over that; be that alcohol/tobacco, fast food, portion size, exercize, etc.