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Some Syrian Chemical Weapons Have Gone Missing

As the world watches the goings-on in Syria, one of the most pressing fears is that its stock of chemical weapons might go missing and fall into the wrong hands. Today, we find that our nightmare is coming true. We heard in late August that Syrian rebels claimed to have taken over a base with chemical weapons. Now, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta has admitted that some of those weapons have gone missing:

Panetta said that the “main sites” in Syria storing chemical weapons with which the Pentagon is most concerned remain secured by the Syrian military. But there is “some intelligence” that “limited” movements of weapons from other sites have occurred, he said, “for the Syrians to better secure what they – the chemicals.”

Panetta’s statement follows reporting that Syrian rebels claim to have taken control of a military base that contains chemical weapons.

“But with regards to the movement of some of this and whether or not they’ve been able to locate some of it,” he said of U.S. intelligence, “we just don’t know.”

However, the story for us doesn’t stop there. It just gets worse. Jumping back to late August for a moment, we actually had the capability to take out those weapons:

British special forces, along with troops from France and the United States, are poised along the borders of Syria to secure and destroy the country’s arsenal of chemical weapons if the regime in Damascus collapses.

According to intelligence sources, specialized military units from the three Western allies have been in place for more than a month in Turkey, Israel and Jordan, ready to strike at Syria’s chemical weapon stocks and missile sites.

They would intervene if the weapons were about to be deployed by President Bashar Assad or were in danger of being captured by rebels.

“The personnel are there, the equipment is there, the lift capability is there,” said one intelligence source in the Middle East.

“There are people on the ground (inside Syria) assessing the logistics of landing and securing these sites. Preparations are underway for a mission to secure and destroy these weapons.”

So, we knew where they were at one time and had the capability to act, but we didn’t. Sadly, this has become a familiar narrative under the Obama administration.

To complicate things even further for the Obama administration, we have to remember that Obama promised a firmer response to this chemical weapons problem. From the Washington Post on August 21st:

“We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus,” Obama said. “That would change my equation. . . . We’re monitoring that situation very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans.”

And yet, here we are seeing the truth: what the Obama administration promised was just empty rhetoric.

Even though I lack any concrete evidence, I would like to propose the following theory: there’s a chance the Obama administration doesn’t really want to find these chemical weapons. Why, you ask? Well, there’s the very real possibility that some of them came from Iraq. Perhaps you remember the allegations made by the Iraqi Air Force’s second-in-command Gen. Georges Sada’s allegations from six years ago, but he’s not the only one saying this. It would blow the whole “Bush lied, people died” meme about Iraq to pieces–along with the credibility of numerous people on the Left who made their careers bashing President Bush for the same.

I’m not saying I believe this, but I don’t think it’s too crackpot of a theory.

We can do better than this. Think about that November.

COMMENTS

  • jiminga

    No surprises here, as out Great Leader (from behind) spews rhetoric and then goes off to campaign again. And the suspicion the weapons came from Iraq is certainly correct. Obama couldn’t run a lemonade stand, much less a country, and his errors will bring bad consequences for years to come.

  • veritaseequitas

    And HRH Hillary has put up the 45 million dollar ransom?

  • veritaseequitas

    “We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line
    for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving
    around or being utilized. That would change my calculus,” Obama said.
    “That would change my equation. . . . We’re monitoring that situation
    very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans.”

    What a poor dumb cow Obama is. He can’t even calculate a good cover-up for his bungling incompetence with regard to the murder of our people at the hands of Islamic terrorists.
    Back in the day, there was a lot of talk that Saddam shipped his chemical weapons off to Syria for “safe keeping.”
    Weighing the dangers, I believe it would be worse politically for the Obama regime if the darn things were in the hands of the Syrian rebels than it would be if they could be traced back to Saddam’s regime, thus exonerating George W. Bush.

  • fightnright

    The One told us you have to expect some ‘bumps in the road’. Guess next he’ll be telling the world to man up and get used to ‘a few nasty little boo-boos’.

  • swami7774

    Remember the “huge” scandal in the closing days of the ’04 campaign–that some ammunition was missing from an Iraqi ammo dump? The story dominated the news and nearly gave us President Kerry. Since chemical weapons are a little more serious than conventional ammo, I’m ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN our trustworthy MSM will take a similar approach to this story. Right?

  • candleburn

    The notion that the admin doesn’t want to find chemical weapons in Syria because they might be from Iraq is also conspiracy theory talk. It would make absolutely no sense for Saddam to have turned over WMD to Iran’s main ally in the region.

  • streiff

    that is revisionist history. Go back and read the documents from the time. If you logic follows it made no sense for Saddam to have his air force seek refuge in Iran during the 1990 Gulf War because they’d only recently been at war. Yet that is exactly what happened. What you are talking is crap that contradicts a couple of decade of cooperation between Iraq and Syria when it benefited them.

  • streiff

    read this article very carefully. That isn’t what Panetta says at all. He even concedes that the Iranian Pasdaran might have possession of them. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/panetta-syria-moved-chemical-weapons-17348515#.UGb1j03BGSo

  • commonsenseobserver

    Which is reassuring because?

  • Ausonius

    It is a story which just will not go away: Iraqi chemical weapons (and worse?) smuggled out quickly to Syria in the early days of the U.S./Coalition of the Willing invasion of Iraq.

    Some think Saddam would have done no such thing: if he had them, he would have used them against the U.S.-led Coalition! Why send lethal weapons away to be hidden?

    On the other hand, people are not always logical, or are thinking in different ways. Could Saddam have been thinking long-term of using the weapons later in a guerrilla war of attrition against any occupation?

    One fact is clear, which even the pooh-poohers admit: there were large convoys going into Syria with something back then. The pictures exist, the eyewitnesses are still around.

    Here is a debate on the topic – biased of course – from The Atlantic:

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/07/did-syria-receive-its-chemical-weapons-saddam/55142/

    Excerpts:

    “… a smug Victor Davis Hanson at Investors Business Daily said
    the media was wrong to so eagerly dismiss the story of Hussein’s 11th
    hour smuggling adventure. “Although the story was met with general
    neglect or scorn from the U.S. media, the present director of national
    intelligence, James Clapper, long ago asserted his belief in such a
    weapons transfer,” he writes. That’s true. As director of the National
    Geospatial Intelligence Agency, Clapper said in 2003 that satellite
    images showing a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq to Syria “unquestionably” show that illicit weapons were moved out of Iraq. ”

    And:

    (Kris Alexander, an officer in the U.S. Army) “…let’s say that Saddam wasn’t so concerned about the Americans — a miscalculation that Saddam seems to have made.
    That’s actually not a rationale for transferring weapons to Syria. Just
    like in 1991, he faced the collapse of his regime. Except back then, he
    slaughtered jubilant Shiites and used chemical weapons on the Kurds. Why, in 2003, would Saddam give up the worst threat he could make against his people?”

  • candleburn

    No, what he is saying is that he has no information to confirm that something like that took place.

  • streiff

    the latter question is easy. He thought he’d be able to survive the attack and negotiate a peace short of regime change. He’d already survived in 1990 so it wan’t an unrealistic expectation. If the weapons were sent out of country, Scott Ritter could stop chasing pre-pubescent girls and return to look for weapons and not find them.

  • streiff

    short course in foreign policy and protocol.

    1. his power always came from possessing them. Using them was secondary.

    2. using them against the US would have triggered US doctrine that reserved the right of the US to use unconventional weapons after someone else used chemical weapons.

    3. Negotiating an end to the war based on a comprehensive IAEA/UNSCOM inspection regime would have left him in power and it would have allowed him to retrieve the weapons at a later date.

    That was the foreign policy lesson. Not the protocol lesson.

    I’m really tired of your tired, silly, and uninformed snark on subjects you know no more about that the latest dKos/DU talking point. So to keep both of us from wasting any more time I’m showing you the door. Go find someone else to entertain with your room temperature intellect.

  • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

    I know you’re, thankfully, a ghost, but here’s the relevant cite from the article lest some unsuspecting person read your comments and come to the incorrect conclusion that you can either read or think.

    Syria’s chemical weapons are top concern for the U.S. and for regional allies worried that they could let be stolen by rebels or terrorists organizations, or given to Iran for safekeeping.

    Bolding is mine.

  • civil truth

    Plus Iraq and Syrian were both run by the Baathist Party – they were natural allies.

  • Dave_A

    Exactly.

    Saddam had MORE weapons in 1991, and he didn’t use them THEN either… Something about the US, UK, and Israel all ‘diplomatically’ promising (eg, implying) they’d respond with nuclear weapons….

    His strategy for 2003, as evidenced by forming the Fedayeen, was to fight a war of attrition, and then come back as the ‘triumphant survivor’ promising order from chaos, after we quit…

    Except we didn’t quit, and he didn’t survive to see us leave….

    .

  • jmike718

    The average shelf life of the chemical weapons that Saddam was thought to possess , like the nerve agents Sarin and Tabun is five years. XV a little longer. Today those agents would be about as toxic as sugar or flour. Only without the type 2 diabetes.

  • Dave_A

    The logic, would be that Syria was not a US ally & the US would not violate their sovreignty…

    And that Saddam could get some of the weapons back after he ‘won’ by surviving the next war… Which was his plan (create chaos, make us quit, come back and regain power)….

  • jamesm

    There has been some talk of that but that has never been proven. The problem with this mixture is that some unfortunate soldier or fool would have to do the mixing prior to be able to firing a weapon. But again I don’t believe there is any provable source of binary weapons. I could be wrong. I would be interested in a source.

  • streiff

    he had a lot of blister agent. That stuff still injures people in Verdun after nearly a century.

    He also had substantial stocks of VX-like nerve agent which has a shelf life of decades.

  • rabun1016

    Having any dialogue with anything candleburn writes is a waste of data space. Dnc troll.

  • jakeincarolina

    Oh man!!! I can’t imagine the look on Obambi’s face if they found Saddam’s chemical weapons in Syria! He’d probably swim all the way back to Kenyaah!

  • greyeagle

    I talked to a weapon’s inspector about 3-4 years ago. He was the only one looking in a particular part of Iraq. He found numerous bunkers with traces of chemical weapons and other stockpiles. The citizens told him that the weapons had been moved out in large convoys just before the start of the War. Heck, fighter jets were found totally buried in the sand at some sites. They also found seed stock of biological weapons in scientists homes. So not unreasonable they were moved to Syria.

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    The Obama Administration does have a frightening ability to lose weapons whether to Mexican Drug Cartel thugs or terrorist thugs. I mean they know this aids the thugs in performing their acts of thuggery; I mean they know this right?

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    The air smells a lot better in here.

  • rockyjones

    It will turn out that there are no functioning Chem weapons (or biological ones) in Syria…they have not existed for a decade plus. they are to hard for the locals to store and maintain

  • tetrisd85

    This is going to be a Romney/Ryan LANDSLIDE. I can feel it.

  • CitizenVetUSA

    These are the same missing WMD that Saddam Hussein lost……..try looking in Turkey maybe the Kurds have them.

  • dbecraft

    Wait a minute! Syria has never had chemical weapons and will never use them if they had! I believe that is a quote of this administration – am I wrong?

  • rodguy911

    Years ago before it was an issue I began writing about how dozes of planeloads form a 707 and 747 with the seats removed all contained WMDs poisonous gas etc. and were flown from Iraq into Syria by then Gen. Sada. Later on he wrote a book on the event and even made the rounds with all the pertinent talk show hosts.Today its news.This is the WDM the Bush administration always referred to that never existed according to the DBM.
    Zero will stay as far away from this as he can since it would reflect poorly on his mgmt. of the arab spring which is more like an Arab winter with thousands of dead arabs lining the ditches of despair in country after country.
    We have elected a Manchurian, time to vote him out.

  • rodguy911

    IT was almost a game with Saddam moving weapons,
    WMD of all sorts around constantly to keep us from finding them. To think that he would have hesitated to move them into Syria is harldy beyond the pale.

  • Ausonius

    Quite true: people forget the conclusion of the WMD report that Iraq was a far more dangerous place than anyone thought, even without finding the stockpiles, because things were so ubiquitous and out of control.

  • kahieb

    I believe that the truth of the matter is that this administration simply doesn’t care if these weapons fall into the wrong hands. And if they end up in the hands of the “Mooslim Brudderhood” so much the better… Once again, gangsta politics.

  • rodguy911

    If you want a scary scenario of just what chem weapons were around the world almost ten years ago you can go here. Its really scary what exists.

    http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/29/syrian-chemical-weapons-have-gone-missing/

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