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VMI speech, 10/08/2012: Mitt Romney will promise to arm Syrian rebels, if elected.

From the text of his prepared remarks:

In Syria, I will work with our partners to identify and organize those members of the opposition who share our values and ensure they obtain the arms they need to defeat Assad’s tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets. Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously with our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran—rather than sitting on the sidelines. It is essential that we develop influence with those forces in Syria that will one day lead a country that sits at the heart of the Middle East.

If you’re wondering… there have been multiple reports (The Guardian, Reuters, The Jerusalem Post, and… the US State Department) that Iran has been shipping men and material to Syria (the men may be withdrawn fully soon, though). And if you’re wondering how the local governments will react to Romney’s call for the arming of the Syrian rebels, it’d be pretty much a sigh of relief: the Saudi and Qatar governments have been hesitant about supplying more aid to the rebels precisely because the Obama administration has frozen up on the subject like a rabbit in tharn*.   I mention both of these things mostly for the benefit of Democrats and other natsec ignoramuses; I fully expect Republicans and conservatives to be already checked out on these things. Not that I particularly expect that mentioning these things will keep the Left from whining anyway.

But then, having them try to explain why ‘helping Libyan insurgents’ = good while ‘helping Syrian insurgents’ = bad should provide the rest of us with some amusement throughout the morning.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

*Don’t bother looking for that analogy in the link: the New York Times would never put it in those terms.  What the NYT said was this:

For months, Saudi Arabia and Qatar have been funneling money and small arms to Syria’s rebels but have refused to provide heavier weapons, like shoulder-fired missiles, that could allow opposition fighters to bring down government aircraft, take out armored vehicles and turn the war’s tide. While they have publicly called for arming the rebels, they have held back, officials in both countries said, in part because they have been discouraged by the United States, which fears the heavier weapons could end up in the hands of terrorists. As a result, the rebels have just enough weapons to maintain a stalemate, the war grinds on and more jihadist militants join the fray every month.

COMMENTS

  • michael_j_lambert

    For a bit I thought you were talking about Libyans. After all, we should thank the good people who, of their own volition, banded together and drove Al Qaeda out of town after Ambassador Stevens was killed.

    Overall, I think republican prognostication that the changes in the middle east are inherently bad are overblown, and I think there is hope for Libya. Egypt, less so. I honestly have been too focused on my studies to pay attention to what is happening in Syria except on the broadest levels.

  • ihccwmpenn

    Personally, I am suspicious of the reports of Iran sending Syria weapons for the simple fact that the Syrian military doesn’t need any MORE arms. On paper, the Syrian Army is equipped with a vast array of armaments, in some ways much better armed than Iran (in terms of armor, artillery, air power). I’m something of a military buff and know a good deal about both nation’s militaries & I can’t honestly think of any arms Syria would need from Iran to deal with the rebels (other military equipment like Anti-shipping missiles and radar equipment are a different story). It’s more likely the aid Iran is supplying is in the form of money, intelligence, and counter-insurgency tactics.

    I personally have little problem with us giving the FSA arms to help fight the Syria army for the simple fact that our enemies in the region (Syria and Iran) are already convinced we have been aiding them the whole time.

    Trying to establish a No-Fly-Zone scenario as we did is another issue entirely. For one, Syria is not Libya. Their defenses are far more extensive and their air force is not likely to simply sit on the ground and wait to be attacked like the Iraqi Air Force did in 2003 and Libya’s more recently. An American victory is not in doubt but it is much less likely to be so painless as the Libyan campaign.

    So, if Romney is just talking about aiding the FSA in terms of equipment, money and intelligence then I see no fault with his position. Ultimately, it’s the aftermath of this war that worries me the most…

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    I don’t think it is a good idea at all. We will gain exactly zero from this. If a new regime comes into power they will likely be worse than Assad, and we will still be the great Satan. How many more times must be fall on our face in the middle east until people realize that we need to keep them as much as practical, at arms length? No good can come of this.

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    wow, what a lot of wishful thinking. We have had a very activist foreign policy in the middle east for a dozen years now and have only one good thing to show for it. That is Iraq, And there are no guarantees that will last. Our other former allies in the region are falling to Islamic dictatorships right and left.

    If the people there are capable of creating pluralistic societies which honor human rights then they will need to do it on their own, in their own way because the nearly all of them resent the hell out of us. And are likely to take the most constructive aid as merely furthering our own interests.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Maybe Mitt should watch the Grave of the Fireflies. Anti-war anime can’t hurt with over enthusiastic Republicans.

  • MoeLane

    So you agree with the administration’s position, which is to aggressively do nothing in Syria and heavily discourage the Saudi/Qatar governments from doing anything, either?

  • commonsenseobserver

    What about not interfering militarily or diplomatically and providing other forms of aid directly? Once the rebels’ power is more or less equal to that of Assad’s, send troops in to secure the WMDs and let the UN send a peacekeeping force if they want.

  • MoeLane

    Was that a yes, or a no? :)

  • commonsenseobserver

    No. Both to Obama and Mitt.

  • MoeLane

    OK, cool.

  • Guest

    Remember when we armed the Taliban to fight the Russians? That was fun.

  • 1dognan

    Mr. Lane…I am an undecided voter…I came to read Red State to become better informed. I was reading your article with that intent in mind; however, I must let you know that when you choose to use words like “netsec ignoramuses”…it seems to me that labeling a whole group of people is NOT informative, but inflammatory. You might keep in mind that this publication is read by readers, like myself, that are not necessary of the same mindset, but are trying to rely on journalists for information. I would hope to expect an apology from you to my personal email, as I’m sure you can find that with my log-in. Thank you. Nancy Burbank

  • commonsenseobserver

    Uh, he’s not a journalist… and this is not a publication… :P Sorry.

  • Bill S

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    :breathe:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    You obviously don’t get what a blog is. Maybe you should stick with USA Today.

  • David

    I vote for that, given the civil casualties that his intentions might cause. Syrian civil war isn’t precisely an “aseptic” war. Nah, I wouldn’t expect a conversion out of this