What is your idea of an apology? Does he have to get into sackcloth, get on his knees, and kiss each and every ass in America? Must be since this is just a small piece of one of his many explanations and apologies, seems to be a pretty good one to me…

“”I don’t know that I’m the only person in public office who suffered
from foot in mouth disease here,” he said. “This was a very, very
serious error.”"

I guess when you consider some of the options, e.g., Castle, Bennett, Murkowski, Specter, Snowe, Collins … “Senate control” takes on a whole new meaning.

“Erick’s headline suggests that we should vote for Jerry Sandusky if he was running AND was conservative”

I don’t see that in Erick’s headline at all. Not to take up for Akins here, but equating the heinous activities of a serial child sex offender to someone who probably was exposed in college to theories like the H.M. (Hilda) Bruce effect of pregnancy blockage in the ‘strange mouse’ experiment and mentions that, is morally, intellectually, and philosophically bankrupt.

I know that the phrase ‘legitimate rape’ was widely deplored as Akin’s more grievous rhetorical misstep, but there are cases of rape victims recanting their testimony, leading to the alleged rapist’s release, and it is to those cases I think Akin actually meant to refer.

But a reference – even the most poorly informed, badly articulated statement – can never be considered equivalent to the crime of multiple rape.

We’ll never know whether it was McCaskill, Romney or Akin’s voting record that saved him; but a certain rooster predicted this only hours after the rest of the conservative blogosphere buried him…http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2012/08/31/akin-breakin-hearts-of-media-pilers-on/

Seriously? Biden has said numerous things that are stupid, uneducated and condescending to a number of groups. He’s still VP and he’s still on the Dem ticket. Try again, pal.

Your mistake is in attributing “thought” to his comment.

The important choice here, is whether you will vote for the person who will vote to uphold your right to freedom of speech, or the person who will vote to crush speech they don’t agree with. The choice is clear, the balance of the Senate and the Presidential race is at play. You don’t have to like Akins words to vote Republican. Which candidate is more likely to take away your freedom of speech, freedom to assemble, right to bear arms and economic freedom? Staying at home is a vote for Mc Caskill.

I’ll stand by my comment. Wrong thinking / bad thought happens all the time. I make a distinction between thought and wisdom.

I can forgive a poorly worded statement a lot easier than crappy votes, and there are plenty of those in the Senate. The names Locked and Loaded threw out below come to mind, plus Alexander, Isakson, Graham, McCain…

If it ain’t the candidate or a credible Tea Party type organization, it does NOT a contribution get. When / if Republican Party is taken over by constitutionalist conservatives, then might consider sharing meager givings.
Todd ticked me off big time. Still hot about it and his tendencies are the same. But when it comes to the Damnocrats, the withhold principle is withheld. Send ‘im money.

Sorry, I was referring to bluebird69, not Akin. I think I misread your comment initially. Carry on…

Exactly.

It takes some pretty warped logic to think that a US Senate race is going to shape the vote for President. There is no freaking way that Akin’s comments were ever going to sway things for Obama. That’s just stupid. I drive all over the state (my relatives/kids live in various corners of the state), and there are Akin and Romney signs everywhere. Voters are not stupid. They know that every person/candidate is different. Republican voters are NOT going to blame Mitt Romney for a misstatement by Todd Akin. They know what a disaster Obama has been. Akin changes nothing.

My problem is with someone who questions Akin’s thought process when the man clearly stated he was wrong and went one to express his heart in a manner that I can appreciate. I responded to a comment from someone who is ready to dismiss a candidate for making a dumb remark and then not take into account that same person’s willingness to admit the error and ask forgiveness. When I lived in kc I voted against Claire. I wish I were there to vote against her once more.

You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Akin has been my rep for years and he’s represented his district effectively and has been a consistent conservative vote in the House. Don’t spout off about something on which you are clueless.

When we win control of the Senate this time, we could be looking at a super majority following 2014.

Hence “If [not saying stupid stuff] were the bar to get in the senate, Joe Biden would have been kicked out years ago.”

Nice Viet, I and my wife both joined you in supporting Akin.

If that was the text of his apology, then I have been making a greivous error for the last however many weeks. I remember seeing a “text” of his statement at the time, and being unimpressed. Either I only found edited remarks designed to make him look like an idiot, or I am an idiot, or he released further apologies later. I suspect all three.

don’t blame people unless you can spell their name correctly.

Yep, If Romney wins the Senate goes republican by a healthy margin.

“Then you go on to compare his comment to some racist comment made by a moron? Really?”

Well Akin is as big a moron as anyone so I wouldn’t put anything past him. And I don’t see you defending the idiot from Arkansas for making a comment based on pure convictions. Since when does the sincerity of someone’s comments make the content acceptable? If he wins Akin will have a blank check for 6 years and he’ll get his money’s worth even if it makes the rest of the party cringe everyday.

No I don’t like McCaskill either. I just think we should throw our support behind Republicans in other states. Why is Richard Murdouck in a tight race? Why is the race in ND close? Why are there no calls for people to give money to Scott Brown in MA, who is running against a freaking communist?????? Todd Akin is a neanderthal who should just go back to the rock he crawled out from under.

I would hope you’re right…

I tend to be a bit pessimistic on the intelligence of the average voter, though…

So you’d rather have it run by Harry Ried?

Senate control is about leadership… And while DeMint may never find himself majority leader, I’d take McConnell over Ried any day….

Exceptions can be made.

Agree! When this all occurred and the NRSC threw him under their bus, I also stated the obvious. Our party is all about winning (obviously MSM instigated) instead of supporting morally decent folks running for office. Way too many Republicans run for the hills when the MSM does their thing.

And yes, I blame RedState also, if the founders say jump, all of the followers tend to jump also.

I prefer Akin’s voting record in the House to my rep’s (Bachus-AL6) who makes me cringe every day.

Agree.

streiff,

I’m a what, an educated mid-westerner.

I’d give Jamo11 a pass. Just me.

Seems that your foresight is far better than some of the other RedState founders! Maybe you should ask for a raise…heh.

I think those of us who tend to pay a lot of attention to politics think that everyone else does, too. I believe the normal voter’s thought processes are pretty simple: I vote for the guy who I think will benefit me and against the one who will not. Outside the ideological Left, Obama’s reputation is awful and at least right now the indies are substantially swung towards Romney.

The underlying logic behind Romney’s 47% comment is/was pretty sound: the folks who survive on government handouts will vote for the person who supports the handouts BUT they will also support (the important part) the one who they think will help them continue to receive those handouts. In order for handouts to continue, the economy must be sound and the government must be solvent. This is a key reason why seniors tend to support Romney: they think he will keep the payments flowing by preventing the whole system from taking a crap. (Of course the other reason is that most seniors tend to be social conservatives, and Obama is NOT).

The other factor in Missouri is that, outside the metro STL and KC areas, the bulk of the state is rural and working class – another characteristic that leads to voting for the conservative Republican. And the urban population has not outgrown the rural areas. This is what brought McCain the state in 2008. And it will deliver it for Romney in 2012.

Disgusting and unnecessary remark Steiff… You should be ashamed. If you actually have a complaint about his statement, say it, without being an….!

If you find that comment to be disgusting, unnecessary, and one that makes Streiff an ass, then I must assume you have led a very sheltered life, need to get out more, and should plan on sticking to kiddie sites in the future.

Not sure what prompted you to pull out the pulpit, but I save those type of messages for the deserving, the ignorant, and the left. Since you have yet to fit into any of those categories, I have not needed to use it.But do not worry, I believe that one day, through the collective efforts of the mod staff, IQ requirements will be established and trolls, leftist, and idiots will be permanently gone from the site, then there will be no further need for my “subduing.”

But I must say, if you read all my posts, I must serve a purpose and I am assuming that purpose is entertainment. Donations are accepted:)

Akin’s stupid comments are FAR better than McCaskill’s VILE voting record.

And I really wish anyone who doesn’t have to be “represented” by ClaireBear would kindly BUTT OUT of our Senate race.

Oh, Barbra Streisand. Akin has apologized six ways from Sunday. If you couldn’t find his apology, I must conclude that you simply didn’t look for it.

Akin’s ultimate point was that it is not morally right to murder an innocent unborn child because of the sin of the baby’s father, even if that baby’s father was a rapist.

Too true.

Personally, I think “punished with a baby” is FAR more “vile” than anything Akin has said.

Supporting Akin would cause backlash that would risk races in 3-4 other states?

Hogwash.

That’s nothing more than an establishment GOP scare tactic.

I am also a proud, former Akin constituent. I’ll take his stupid comment over the representation I now get from Lacy Clay in MO-1.

I reached that point in ’08.

…and we Missourians are still stuck being represented by Obama Lapdog McCaskill.

Sounds to me like Akin is going to win, especially if Romney surges in this month, which seams possible if not probably.

If it makes you feel any better, my senators are Diane Feinstein, who’s corrupt as the day is long and a down the line democrat and Barbara Boxer, one of the dumbest flat out socialists in the Senate.

And I blame the republican establishment for jumping on Fiorina in ’10, a complete political neophyte, and shoving aside several relatively successful conservatives.

Oh, and Fiorina got almost exactly the same percentage of the vote as O’Donnell did in Delaware, yet somehow almost no one blames the R establishment for blowing that winnable election.

I will freely admit that I did not put due diligence into finding Akin’s apology. Mostly because Akin dropped off my radar about 3 days after he let his mouth run faster than his brain. Also, because at the time he was still on my radar nobody behaved as though his apology were acceptable.

If memory serves, at least one of the Redstate front page writers wrote a post calling for Akin to leave the race. Also, diaries detailing why Akin should withdraw populated the member diaries column. Not having great seach-fu, I cannot prove that this was the case, but it is what I remember.

Finally, if you want to impugn someone’s ability to find things, at least give them a somewhat condescending link. E.g. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=todd+akin+apology

I don’t think streiff is capitalized unless its the first word in a sentence

or someone’s name

If we ever get sig lines back, I’m stealing that “Mr. Congeniality” thing.

The blogosphere changed the rules on the latter…

I think the rare exception should be when the candidate shoots himself in the foot and then proceeds to randomly spray machine gun fire at his fellow candidates. He had a chance to leave the race and be replaced with a perfectly respectable conservative candidate without the baggage., but he choose himself over his party and his principles. He has put control of the Senate in danger and hurt (hopefully not fatally) our chances at the White House.

Now that you got that out of you and had a good cry, I must ask, what does any of the silliness you posted above have anything to do with your original sticking your nose into others business silly reprimand of Streiff or my assertion to you? All the crap you wrote above trying to pat yourself on the shoulder has nothing to do with you butting in, making a big cry fest deal out of nothing, and telling a site mod how he should conduct business on a site that you have no ownership in. So get a life, stop with the pious nonsense, and try to get your words to match the maturity your old age should be at.

PS I am no Agnostic, but you are an idiot.

Akin had been given some bad information and repeated it. He also used less than perfect wording in saying some CLAIMS of rape were not legitimate. The NRSC saw this as a great opportunity to keep down the conservatives in Washington, and piled on hugging the MSM. Also to say claims of rape may not be true is like saying a black president may not be a good one…nuf said

I never thought there were outright idea stealing, but rather not being mindful of plenty of diaries on same topic to promote from member diaries already existed before some FP would do a same story with not much to add.

If politicians, or those running for office, are disqualified for saying something off the cuff and stupid, we could vote for no one.

No, but if you run for Chief Justice Douchebag you would probably win

And you still make no point but you did prove each and every point made about you.

Slink off, you have made enough of a fool of yourself for one day.

Heh… Unfortunately, my original point still stands. Strieff (sorry, I do capitalize names – blame my teachers) should have made a point with his comment instead of going after the spelling of Carl/Karl. If he had a disagreement, state it, otherwise making the comment he did was just snark (sorry, it was not just a joke).

Yes, I agree with you about had had back to back…should have read for errors before I posted but it was suppose to be a funny retort so I did not worry about it.

Went back and read some of your earlier posts and take back much of what I insinuated. You do seem to be a nice reasonable conservative fellow… Sorry for my interpretation from your few earlier comments.

The bottom line is that folks like Todd Akin do the party and the conservative cause no good. They are unpersuasive and, in his case, he will never have credibility with anyone. I would rather him win than lose, I guess, but I am incensed that someone like him, who has so little self awareness about questions and answers, was the party nominee.

I think it’s safe to say that another vote to repeal Obamacare in the Senate does our cause more good than just about anything else. McCaskill is a guaranteed vote to keep Obamacare. The choice is pretty clear. I whole-heartedly support Akin, even though I cringed when I first heard his remarks.
Anyone who thinks we are better off with McCaskill than Akin isn’t thinking about our true goals this election cycle.

Any republican voting for McCaskill is no republican. The woman is toxic with her votes.

The powers that be, ie; the permanent political class in Washington DC, and in every govt office in America, be they Democrat or Republican, are and will always be against “We the People”. This is why these hierarchy elitists in power, constantly 24/7-365, try to keep us down and out of political leadership, from removing and replacing them, from taking over their reins of power and influence, ie; access to and control of govt tax payer money. This is the struggle that is and always has been the story since civilized man / civilized society started. But one in which we the Tea party people will not relent from, not capitulate to, and not back down from.

The problem with NRSC and other spineless RINOs is that they would rather lose the Senate than win with conservatives. They are much more oriented to keeping their power and the status quo, which supports their individual power, than in letting conservatives have any power at all. They would much rather “reach across the aisle” than lend a helping hand to conservatives. They would much rather keep radical leftist Dims in the Senate than let any new conservatives in. And, if any new conservatives do get in, the will try to freeze them out of good committee assignments and will quietly work to undermine them six years from now. I would call them weasels, but that would be unfair to weasels.

I call them the big headed GOPS. We the People, do not get to select our candidate for any office. They are selected and pushed by people like Rove, Bob Dole, and other Repub. elites.WE are too stupid to know what is good for us. Remember how the elites came out against Gingrich when he was winning big? THAT was when I realized the only part we have is to mark the block on the form for the one they chose. I will donate to a candidate I want personally but not to the RNC as a whole.

The most embarassing thing, at least for me, about Republicans is how they run like cowards when a rumble occurs involving one of their members, especially Conservative members. I sometimes think they all used the women’s wash room at the capitol!

” we’ll lose the Senate again because of the NRSC”
Like hell we will.

@redstate-a1766cf96c1ad23d4e185945278867b8:disqus : You are right about Akin. Anyone that has taken the time to go and meet him and talk with him has seen the honesty and integrity come thru. A straight up good conservative Christian man!

That Ken Buck loss still hurts. As did Murkowski pulling it out in Alaska — I liked Beardo. Angle was unfortunate and I would have loved to see Reid get bounced. O’Donnell was a disaster and we would have been better off with a liberal with an R next to his name if that meant we had that seat in our court. Akin is an idiot, and we need the seat … as we do in FL, WI and everywhere else we have goofs running for our party.

Other than legitimate rape, what else has Akin done to make him unqualified. I read he’s had a very conservative voting record in the House. That should line up with your so-called conservative stand. Huh?

I place the NRSC in the same category as the other low lives that wallow in the DC trough of privilege. I cringe when time after time, these so called Republicans fail to back conservative candidates and legislation. They are in the same situation as geldings, steers and other animals who have been neutered. They are eunuchs, without balls, fat and unable to reproduce that does not support their power base.

Have meant him and talked with him several times. He is my congressman in MO 2nd district. He votes conservative.HE always addresses any questions in writing. He WILL beat McCaskill.

So a bad candidate runs off at the mouth and mortally wounds his own campaign there by dooming what was a near certain pick up and it’s everyone else’s fault for not dragging him over the finish line? I don’t live in Missouri so it’s not my problem beyond the national implications but is it too much to ask for at least competence? Being consistently pro-life does not give you a pass with everyone who isn’t a single issue conservative evangelical. I wouldn’t even consider this guy a legit primary winner, McCaskill supporters spent more money on adds for him then he spent on his entire campaign. Then factor in his biggest booster is Mike Huckabee a guy who would be a pro-life democrat had the dems not made abortion the sacrament of their party. The conservatives of Missouri get screwed one way or another. If you want to know why people don’t want to have to support this inarticulate boob I think it’s Bush’s fault, 8 years of having to defend someone who was unwilling or incapable of defending himself has gotten old. So if Akin loses, it’s his fault. If we don’t take back the senate it’s Todd Akin’s fault for being some kind of high functioning retard with delusions of grandeur. Don’t forget this guy was going to be the poster monkey for Obama’s “war on women” narrative that in itself made him radioactive to anyone who wasn’t employed by his campaign and they’re all related to him anyway.

What is your stance on Michele Bachmann?

At least Akin recanted his pseudo-scientific assertions regarding the body shutting down conception during rape. As far as I know, she still hasn’t recanted hers regarding vaccines and autism.

(Strangely, I didn’t see anyone calling for her to drop out of the presidential primary following those remarks, either.)

The moron is strong in this one.

A few years back Barack Obama was on a late night comedy show mocking Special Olympics by comparing his bowling to the Special Olympics. Few laughed. Tim Shriver Pres Special Olympics told Obama that he must stop making the athletes in Special Olympics the butt of his jokes. Tim Shriver corrected the false impression the president had made on the comedy show that the Special’s bowlers were poor scorers and gave their correct scores. Impressive!

Media and much of the public forgave and forgot the flip, self serving but revealing mockery by a condescending President trying to score a laugh and win a vote at the expense of Special Olympics.

I gave to Akin through Jim Demint before he took the vote of SCF members by designating ‘Akin’ on the check to SCF. I had read he was thiking of a donation before he asked us. The online vote was 93% to donate to Akin. One other fundraiser had a list of candidates and Akin was one. I contributed again. Akin is a good man overall. But his opponent for the Missouri US Senate seat is dreadfully vile and evil.

Clair McCaskill backs a man for president who supports infanticide and made an issue of not helping babies hwo survived abortion while in Illinois senate. She would never get my vote or contribution under any circumstance.

Left the following message on Senator Cornyn’s contact page under the heading Election Reform:
“I’d like to reform you and the NRSC. We have a viable candidate running in MO, yet, y’all don’t like what he said so you won’t support him. I guess that we are a higher breed of political party than the democrats who support Joe Biden no matter what he says.
I thought we wanted to win the Senate this year, it appears that y’all want to cede the Senate to Harry Reid and his group of ne’er do wells. Please WAKE UP before it’s too late, the man has a good chance of winning that seat. We have plenty of people in the house and Senate who open mouth and insert foot. So what! It is time to support conservatives for the Senate so we can replace you and McConnel (RINO) that he is.”

John Quigley,
Chair, Republican Party in Kinney County TX.

Hopefully if he gets enough angry folks writing it and calling his offices here in the State of Texas, he will take the hint.

Wondering why we can’t see a story on redstate about McCaskills husband getting stimulus money. Conservative media should be jumping all over it! All we get is crickets except at Gateway pundit.

Agreed. I’m so sad to see our conservatives so divided on this issue. There is NOTHING wrong with what Todd Akin said. On politics, maybe. But on substance, there was absolutely nothing wrong. What Todd Akin was saying, the famous “legitimate rape” line, was not that rape is legitimate, but that the government has defined rape so broadly that almost ANYTHING can be claimed as “rape” now. A woman has consensual sex with a man, and regrets it afterwards when she finds out she’s pregnant? It’s “rape”, and now she can claim it as such to get an abortion. Two high schoolers have consensual sex with eachother? It’s “rape” (or “child rape”), and now the female can claim it as such to get an abortion. Of course, by this ridiculous definition, almost 70% of this nation are child rapists, if you just look at the statistics on how many people have sex before graduating from high school.

Todd Akin was right on the issue. Claire Mccaskill is WRONG on the issues. End of story!

delete this and my duplicate comment if you can. still trying to figure out this new commenting system.

I can understand this, even if I disagree (I think Kit Bond should have been put up as an independent, but so it goes). That said, this is far better than Congressman DesJarlais. He will have to repent, and will have to do so outside of public life. If he limps through this year, he’ll need a primary challenger the next cycle.