“Honestly, had I not had to watch this debate for work, I would have turned it off.”
I’m with you – I had to hit the ‘mute’ button in order to keep down the broasted pork chops I ate for supper. I never knew how much I hate listening to Biden; perhaps I didn’t realize I was using the mute so much on the TV.

Accurate recap. I wanted to smack Joe Bite Me every time he smiled and laughed. Ryan’s closing statement ROCKED!

I can’t stand Biden. I thought I didn’t have an opinion on the VP. I was wrong about me.

I cannot imagine too many people stayed with the “debate” (this is NOT a debate: for a real debate, check the transcripts of the Lincoln-Douglas debates) after the first few 15 minutes.

It seemed like boring Biden bluster which could not possibly interest anyone other than Kool-Aid drinkers.

Biden was unhinged. I got so upset listening to him. One of the most rude debators I have ever seen.
I do think the left will love it, and some senior citizens will fear loss of their social security and medicare, but I think most people, after they reflect, will think how strange Biden was acting for a sitting Vice President.

can’t stomach any coverage except Fox News, but the Biden disrespectfulness and inappropriate demeanor seems to be getting some traction

I nearly lost my popcorn hearing Joe Biden laugh and Watching him smirk. I’d be asleep right now if my stomach wasn’t still churning.

YES. This was really irritating. Ryan often was in the middle of a good answer somehow not being distracted by Biden – which is absolutely amazing to me. I can’t imagine being able to keep focus like Ryan did with Biden doing everything he was doing. I mean it’s harder than it looks people. Part of Biden’s strategy was probably to draw Ryan off-sides or make him uncomfortable and I don’t think it worked.

Conservatives had high expectations for Ryan and will probably be somewhat disappointed. Under the circumstances, though, Ryan did as well as anyone could. With the biased moderator and Biden’s shameless lying, Ryan was fighting with both hands tied behind his back. Even so, he stood his ground even if he did not crush Biden.

“It was made worse by a moderator who lost repeated control of the debate….”

But did she? She interrupted Ryan a bunch of times as he was focusing in on his point. Romney’s team needs to look and learn.

Pray tell, what’s to like in Biden? He’s a nasty, condescending and frankly, evil man.

I believe streiff called it here.

Martha Raddatz kept interupting Paul Ryan when he was on a roll. Biden kept interrupting. 51-49 Ryan.

The moderator sucked, Joe Biden sucked, and Ryan couldn’t do anything.
Martha Raddatz is an embarrassment.

Biden need to have that smirk wiped off his face.

The way Biden talked about Obama fighting for the middle class… What planet has he been living on for the past 4 years?

Excellent summation. I think ultimately this debate accomplished nothing. I can’t imagine that Biden’s goofy behavior played well with anyone much less women. I thought Raddatz was mediocre at best.

By the way Biden, I remember just a few years ago that you and nearly every other Democrat signed off on the war brought to you by Bush based on intelligence information both the Congress and Bush read about WMD in Iraq. When it suited your purpose, all of you backtracked, bitched, and moaned and called GWB a liar even though you based your decision on the same information GWB read, yet he was the liar. Fine, we will go with that.

So that means regardless of what you claim the intelligence told you, your inept words about what happened in Lybia was a lie, hence you and the bum you work for are liars. You lied to us all, no excuses will be accepted. What is good for the goose must be good for the gander.

CNN Flash Poll – 48% say Ryan won, 44% say Biden.

Erick – You personally like Joe Biden? Ok. There is nothing likeable about him.
Biden was an irritating, bitter man tonight. “Mularky” “Stuff”.
The moderator should have slipped Biden a key to her suite.
This was not a debate. This was a decent man trying to have a rational discussion while two people constantly interrupted him.
The stats show Biden had about a 1.5 minute edge in speaking time, but the stats count all the interruptions by the moderator and Biden as part of Ryan’s time.

thank God. It means that debate watchers were not amused by Biden’s laughter, condescending behavior, and rude interruptions… If Biden was cool and collected, he could’ve been perceived better in this debate – in no small part due to the moderator assists.

“If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.” – Proverbs 29:9

That’s also registered voters, not likelys. Likely voters will probably skew more to Ryan. Might put him over 50%.

While Barack Obama and Joe Biden dodge and demagogue, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan lead.

Field of Honor. Aaron Burr vs Alexander Hamilton
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I think I might have left one eye open. Not sure how many front teeth he would have left. The over/under would be two.

This VP debate was like a duel between Hamilton and Burr’s seconds, a week after Burr killed Hamilton. Only way Obama ever gets compared to Hamilton and Romney to Burr. We foresaw this morning:http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2012/10/11/vice-presidents-dont-matter-even-if-they-arent-jack-kennedy/

Even the most partisan cannot dismiss Biden’s ridiculous antics. Additionally, it is not whining, it is truth. But the truth is a foreign concept to the Left. Oh, and I predict you will not last here long.

I nominate Ann Coulter as US Attorney General when President-Elect Romney forms his cabinet. Or Mark Levin.

Time to see a bunch of Dems go to prison.

Front teeth would not bother him, dentures.

GAFF — GAFF — GAFF. Did Biden not know that the Afghan troops are NOT in the Eastern provinces where US troops alone have to carry the load. US casualities have almost doubled without the exta 22,000. Joe looked shocked when Ryan informed on our extra load. Gaff worse than Ford’s Poland statement.

Thank you!

I was definitely thinking of that diary, too.

it’s what the biased media do. But real people watched it. For those who didnt watch it, its a non-event.
Other than hearing yet more lies from the Obama administration about Libya, not much ‘newsworthy’ here, although I DO HOPE SOMEONE TEARS APART THE 90 OR SO LIES BIDEN TOLD IN THIS DEBATE. He was going thick and fact with the total and absolute BS.

“This was a decent man trying to have a rational discussion while two people constantly interrupted him.”

That’s a great assessment.

Maybe the R/R team was smarter than we thought by approving Raddatz/Biden. First the country learned the truth about Obama, now they got a glimpse behind the curtain at Uncle Joe in his true glory. Full Disclosure.

Oh yes…they love Biden…ignorant, rude lefty…right up their alley…and he was beaten by a rookie.

Giggity

You know who I would like to see debate Biden? Newt Gingrich or Chris Christie. I still prefer Ryan as VP, overall.

We’re not dealing with objective people here, runner12. We’re dealing with Obama drones.

Ryan did fine. Biden did okay, but hurt himself with the smirks. I do not see this changing anything from immediately before the debate.

I usually never try to demean an entire group of people as there may be a portion of the group that do not fit into the behavior of the majority. Prison inmates are on example. While most are scum who have no intent on rectifying the behavior or addictions that put them in prison, there are some who want to better themselves and start changing themselves while in prison. That being said,

There is not one decent human on KOS, not one. Each and every one of those scumbags who support that site are worthless human beings with not one redeeming quality. I love it when things do not go their way and I look forward to mocking them when the election goes our way. I plan on making an account and burning said account laughing at each and every one of them and mocking their pain.

Oh..really. He must have messed with a conservative. No wonder he backs ObamaCare. Probably free dentures every 12 months.

It was even worse than listening to Obama. I didn’t think that was possible!

How much do you want to make a bet that the MSM is in collusion on how to spin this debate? No one can ignore Biden’s nutty and off-putting behavior. Too many people saw it and disliked it. My bet is that they will call it a tie and continue the meme that “debates don’t matter”, etc., etc. it will be hilarious to see what they come up with.

Wow – how apropos! Maybe the campaign should quote this.

Too funny!

AP Poll: Ryan 51 Biden 43. That’s two of the three instant polls I have seen with Ryan winning, with the exception being the CBS poll. Maybe this is a sign the country is beginning to settle on Romney-Ryan.

Biden rudeness also seems to be a story with some life. Is it Gore 2000 all over again?

Yes, would you like to deliver that cheese to NW Georgia?
Just you and me, I’m so far back in the woods that the owls are hunting rabbits in my front yard. In day light.:-) Liberal College Professors are fair game.

The RNC video is devastating.
Reince Priebus was the right choice.

CNBC had Ryan by twenty points.

I think Paul Ryan did a admirable job, especially in the last few minutes of the debate. Big News concerning the never ending Syria saga… Obama administration still cannot get its story straight. Ryan handled the 47% charge by Old Joe, even he had to laugh at himself. Overall it was probably a draw, Biden dominated the debate with the help of the moderator, but the facts where on our side. I was pleasently surprised concerning foreign policy… Ryan obviously had some folks get him up to speed there. Definetly not a game changer for either side. The stupid facial expression and laughter may turn off a few people as were mentioned here.

Paul’s brother told Greta on OTR he was pleased Paul behaved as they had been raised and did not fall prey to tactics of constant interruption.
Paul remained the respectful one. If he was pitching to Independents he did well.
CNN post debate poll
Ryan 48
Biden 44
Undecided 8

Yes. “Joe certainly was Joe” tonight, now wasn’t he?

A silent commercial in the form of a video of Biden’s snarky laughing and his mouth flapping tonight needs to be made. It needs only one comment: “One heartbeat away…”

I disliked Joe Biden more as each second went by. His smirking, the big toothy smile and the laughing gave me the creeps and angered me. I disliked his disrepect on display constantly probaly as a way to boost DNC voters morale after Obama’s weak showing in Debate one.
Humiltiy is not a Biden strong point.

yeah, some manners…. If I didn’t know better I’d have thought howler monkeys were Joe’s next of kin. They’re the loudest land animals; mostly grunt, growl and snarl; plus they have nasty dispositions and don’t do well in a civilized setting.

Agree for the most part lineholder, but Biden’s disdain for Ryan was hardly veiled. He could barely contain his absolute contempt for Ryan. He was mocking Ryan and in the process, making himself – not Ryan – look utterly foolish. It was the most disgraceful conduct I have ever seen in a debate, bar none.

CBS also showed Romney below 50% after the first debate. Anyone thinks Biden scored a bigger win than Mitt? Me neither.

Seems like Obama-Biden like to say things about opponents they aren’t willing to defend in a debate. For example, cancer vampires.

“Braying” is exactly the right word to describe Biden tonight — so is “insufferable”.

I actually think Biden really hurt himself and his ticket (even though I’ve only seen the last 25-30 minutes)

First off, I thought he was surprisingly rude to the moderator – and came off (IMO) as talking down to and bullying her. For somebody who’s ticket is making the “war on women” one of it’s major themes and who really can’t plausibly win WITHOUT carrying women by a fairly sizable margin – that could be a major mistake.

I’m not saying he was being sexist — quite probably Biden would’ve taken the same tone with anyone who asked him an inconvenient question — but I wouldn’t consider myself someone who goes around looking for sexism– and his tone bothered me (ok, he was incredibly unpleasant to listen to just anyway – but it also bothered me on a “I don’t like the way he’s not respecting the female moderator” kinda way)

It crossed my mind to wonder if he felt like he could talk to her like that because she was a woman and to wonder how he treats his wife — and if I had that reaction, why not undecided women.

Thought Ryan clearly won the point with regard to withdrawing troops in the middle of the fighting season.

I appreciated that Ryan explained what “the fighting season” means — it was considerate. Afghanistan is covered so little by most of the media that some people might not have known — and it shows he wants to be Vice President for everyone — not just the political junkies.

Also -by explaining that off the top – it made it very clear that Biden was full of it.

Thought he lost credibility on whether the timing of the withdrawal was political right off the bat by saying something like ” it couldn’t have been political – we decided that in advance” as if they didn’t know 2 years ago that there was going to be an election taking place shortly after the date they’d set.

One thing I was annoyed with Paul Ryan about: When Biden said that the Supreme Court could overturn Roe vs. Wade and OUTLAW abortion — that was completely false – and Ryan should’ve called him on it and pointed out that while Roe vs. Wade being in place DOES allow 9 people to decide for the whole country and force states to allow legal abortion — even if it violates the conscience of a majority of that state’s citizens — Overturning Roe Vs. Wade would NOT force states to outlaw abortion. It would just let it be decided at the state level.

With the “are you stupid or something” tone of voice — the weird smiling (“the intellect of the Democratic Party”), the often unpleasant expressions when he wasn’t talking, all the whining about not whether he was getting enough time — the multiple mentions of the 47% remark (which is beyond a dead horse — and he dragged it up twice in about 5 minutes) I actually thought he was almost as bad as Obama.

I thought Ryan did pretty well — he looked like he was tolerating Biden while staying polite and people could probably relate. He came off as smart, earnest, honest, trustworthy — and kinda cute in a smurf like way — it goes without saying that the camera was much kinder to him than Biden.

Liked the standing up format of the other debate better.

Still, the campaign is about more than the candidates…

Thank you!

I’d pay to see Obama crying on Nov 6 before 10pm, and Biden laughing madly while being driven to an asylum.

I had the same experience — never really had any particular feeling about Biden — but experienced visceral dislike at moments while suffering through a portion of tonight’s debate.

He was taking credit for the Turks’ actions.

I think what you are saying is true for specific moments during the debate. I was watching it on CNN, and it was interesting to watch the graph at the bottom of the screen when Biden’s mask would slip leaving the underlying arrogance bare for the world to see.

But given the way the left tends to approach situations with an attitude of “controlling the narrative”, I think they might have been hoping that if Biden could succeed in portraying himself well in this older, wiser, more experienced statesman role, it would give the left an opening to discredit Ryan somewhat.

I also think the Obama campaign may very well be scared out their wits that the general public might actually become open-minded in considering new ideas. That would be their worst nightmare come true.

I agree. Biden’s rudeness was extremely off putting.

A draw, factoring in expectations.
A slight Ryan victory, objectively.
From Jill Biden’s perspective, it must be a Biden landslide.
So, a Biden victory will be the MSM’s narrative, while Team Romney should be focusing not on debating skills or technique, or nastiness, but LEADERSHIP. Ryan was the leader there, and he managed to be likeable as well, something people like Mitt and Dave Cameron the TINO struggle with.

I think Biden helped Obama out a little bit with undecided men with his aggressive, warrior-like tone. But, that’s nothing Romney won’t be able to get back in the next two debates if he does as well as he did last time. With women on the other hand, Biden just helped Romney close that particular gap up some more. Women think Ryan is cute and didn’t like the fact that old, crazy uncle wouldn’t shut up and let Ryan speak.

If Biden would have taken this verse to heart, then he, his party, and the socialist he is defending would be better off, don’t you think?

I don’t think the debate will change poll trends much. Next Tuesday’s Presidential debate will be the significant poll trender one way or another. However, I was disappointed that Ryan did not come on stronger. I had hoped a strong showing would have nudged a point or two in a swing state like Wisconsin more in the GOP camp. I doubt Ryan succeeded in accomplishing that.

Yes, but that would not be possible, politics. Can any of them be silent? As for Biden and his Party, that will never happen. They are so lost that I can not ever see them doing that, A Silent Democrat Politician, surly you joke.

Charles Krauthammer opined that those who read the transcript of the debate will call it a tie, those who watched on TV would say Ryan won, and those who listened on radio would lean towards Biden. With great trepidation, I must disagree with the master. Ryan won on the radio air as well as the other media.

I listened on radio, and although I found it hard to follow much of the conversation (and also didn’t hear all of it), what I did hear clearly went to Ryan based on the Bentsen Effect. On some issues, Ryan was clearly the winner. If there were other issues, Biden lost them, too, by just “being Joe.” His constant interruptions were exceedingly rude and glaringly obvious on the radio, making it difficult to impossible to follow what Ryan was saying, perhaps exactly the effect Joe was going for.

That’s where the Bentsen Effect kicked in and kicked Joe off the stage.

Anybody who watched the Bentsen-Quayle VP debate in 1980 can tell you what the Quayle-Bentsen verbal exchange was about, and for those who don’t remember it’s on the internet. Bentsen’s “devastating” punchline to Quayle was, “Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy.” The line evoked a roar from the crowd and IIRC, admiration from the chattering class.

However, if I further remember correctly, George Bush and Dan Quayle won the election, so the line had little positive effect, and IMHO, it had some negative effect. Lloyd Bentsen came off as extremely condescending and it was delivered in a very nasty manner. It didn’t help that Bentsen always looked as if he had somehow misplaced his Archbishop’s vestments and staff and was looking for them so he could soundly thrash somebody while in full uniform.

Anyway, by rudely interrupting and talking over Ryan, Biden didn’t make the good impression he needed on the “undecideds.” And the fact that Martha Raddatz often chose to cut off Ryan when Biden didn’t was odd to say the least. Maybe it was a delayed wedding present.

There were substantive issues discussed tonight, but none of them were definitive because they were all too complex to be explained in two-minute squibs. What was communicated eloquently by each of them, however, was his personality. Ryan’s was affable but serious; Biden’s was snarky and superficial.

CNN’s after-debate poll ended Ryan 48%, Biden 44%. As Wolf Blitzer concluded, “Clearly, a tie.”
No, Wolf. It wasn’t a BIG victory tonight, but…

We win, [you] lose….Ronald Reagan, January, 1977.

It appears to have been evident on TV, it must have been evident in the transcript, and my own ears told me it was evident on the radio.

She was either rolled by Biden or she willingly ceded control to him. Either way, same result.

I think Joe lost on the purpose… At this point in the game this is about undecided voters. I was very irritated by constant interruptions. And use of words like malarkey… But I was never going to support these guys… I am assuming there are several such folks on democrat side too….

I don’t think this debate moved any undecided voters towards Obama-Biden ticket. Towards Romney-Ryan? I don’t know… We shall see. Democrats needed to change the narrative and snatch the momentum from Republicans.

They did change the narrative… Last week it was – Obama does not have a plan. Now it will be Democrats are lazy and crazy.

48 to 44? Really?
I just finished reading two articles posted on Yahoo News by “the ticket”.
There were hundreds of comments posted by readers and some comments had over 100 replies to the main comment. There were SCANT few liberal comments posted as main comments. All the liberal comments were replies to someone elses main comment. Of those, not more than 10% were liberal comments. Comparing the thumbs up and down, I found that not more than 10% of the informed voters comments were thumbed down by dead-head liberals. Many conservative main comments had an average of 90% more thumbs up than thumbs down pretty typically throughout.
Sounds to me more like it should be Ryan 90, Biden 10.
Additionally, this is the first time I have seen nearly all of the liberal comments cowering behind a conservative main comment.

Saw Biden’s son on CNN. Tomorrow’s spin will be that Ryan wants to extend the war in Afghanistan indefinitely. Expect to see that all over the MSM once the mass emails go out.

Ryan was nice, prepared and informed. Gingrich would have destroyed Plugs Biden. Gingrich has read the Alinsky book, I suggest the rest of the GOP does as well.

What irks me is many on our side said Raddatz bias was not a problem. BS. RNC agreed to this crap? No conservative moderators? why the heck not????

Because Obama would happily have accepted not having a debate at all. We should be happy that there wasn’t one from NBC.
Really, though, Lehrer is the only one most of our candidates can expect a fair shake from, and even then, he’s only slightly better.

Biden proved once again, he loves to hear himself speak. It doesn’t matter what he says, he just keeps going. Secondly, he was angry and frustrated. People who are losing, talk more, talk louder, talk angry.

CNN update: Mary Matalin mentioned a woman in the focus group interviewed by Erin Burnett, a woman who thought Biden was a “buffoon.” Strangely, it didn’t make the telecast. I wonder if it’ll be on the CNN website. Not Holding Breath.

I guess you missed the pre-debate reports about The Big 0 attending her wedding. She wasn’t rolled and she didn’t cede: she was on their team from the start.

All I can think of when I think of the debate is this knock knock joke:

Person 1: Knock Knock
Person 2: Who’s there?
Person 1: Interrupting cow
Person 2: Interrupting co…..
Person 1 (interrupting): MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Partisans on the Left will like it, believing that Biden was the Romney of this debate. Remember how they spun Romney’s performance? It’s no longer surprising to see the left take the wrong lesson from any particular issue.

As I wrote elsewhere…Biden’s performance was just that…I’m sure he was told to come off as engaging and not angry, while being aggressive and not letting Ryan take control.

I thought Paul Ryan did a very good job…but he did end up looking young…on the other hand, eight years from now, he might have a shot at the Presidency

Joe “HEE-HAW” Biden clearly was told that he was supposed to get Ryan to look pissed off. how’d that work out for you and your boss. happy to put you out to pasture in e few weeks

Score Card

Gentleman vs Obnoxious
Calm demeanor vs Buffoonery
Dignity vs Indignity
Class vs Ass

By 9:45 I had enough of Joe’s interrupting, anger, finger pointing, and shouting. He came across as needing to look strong in the face of Obama’s weakness in his debate, but it was downright unpleasant.

The “moderator” didn’t moderate at all. The candidates could just as well have fielded the questions printed out for them. Maybe the rookie “moderator” followed her liberal masters’ instructions in allowing Joe to constantly interrupt and never attempt to control the debate.

None of the debates will influence the votes of most, as most have already decided. But the undecideds surely saw Biden as unfocused and out of control, not exactly the guy you want next in line.

Still, we have something to learn from Lady T when combatting socialism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okHGCz6xxiw

I am getting tired of this arrow thing.

Biden’s performance would have been far more devastating had he acted presidential instead comedic. Regardless of whether his facts were right, he delivered rebuttals to Ryan that seemed earnest. It would have really been a command performance except that he diminished his own effectiveness with the laughing, smirking, and interrupting.

With that said, it’s clear that Ryan gave an equally impressive performance. Some have drawn the comparison to Obama’s performance in not challenging the interruptions, but that misses what was happening. Ryan showed you don’t have to go after your opponent — and the moderator…could Raddatz have interrupted Ryan any more? — and still effectively make your case.

Ryan did not get flustered. Even though his delivery was blocked by both opponents, he was still able to remain calm and deliver his points (at least when he wasn’t completely shut down by Raddatz).

For Democrats, Biden did what he had to do in being aggressive. He was able to put out points, counterattack the Republican argument, and provide fodder for the liberal media to run with. Whether that works with the average viewer is a different story and I think if Obama comes out and tries the same act, it will look completely unnatural and forced.

Biden could have won a commanding victory except that he had to overcompensate for Obama’s debacle and in so doing he lost his chance to seal the win.

Rich

Again I say, why do the republicans allow these conditions to prevail. We always get liberal media moderators who are incapable or unwilling to do their job. There are other people we can pick. It isn’t there choice. We don’t need the debates. We can go on Obama’s record. The need to convince us that bad is good and hate is love and and right is wrong.

The more I think about it, Biden’s performance ( besides being slightly insane) was another indication that this administration has extremely thin-skin. The rolling of the eyes and derision any time your opponent counters you or states their ideas is a sign of weakness and insecurity, not strength. Petty condescension makes one look feeble, immature, and without substance. Laughing when discussions about the deaths of Americans and other serious world events came off as inappropriate and heartless. If I were the family members of those Americans who were murdered, I would be outraged by Biden’s performance.

Look, Greg, you’re reading Erick’s story so one has to assume you care. Either that or you’re wasting your time. I don’t know why you think you have to ask like a horse’s ass but if this behavior continues I’ll be happy to accommodate you.

I think your take is probably what most undecided voters are going to take away from this debate. The grossly negative distractions most definitely took viewer attention away from Biden’s message. It’s called, “Debate 101.”

I did watch the debate in its entirety, & I’m glad I did because Ryan’s closing was powerful. Biden lied – frequently – because that’s all they have while Ryan had facts and sincerity in his corner.

Very Wise Words to people that have a little common sense BUT will not mean a thing to the Supposedly Elitist Educated Fools.

Joe Biden channels Mr. Peanut Head, blaming the intelligence community for his administration’s policy failures. I worked in the intelligence community back when Carter was defunding the military, especially all the parts he did not understand. Those parts that were visible and fought the loudest to retain funding had greater success than those parts that were invisible and could not reveal their mission, means, and methods. He did not understand the intelligence community, and because we couldn’t spout off about our intelligence coups, we were quickly stripped of funding.

It got down to the point where we were going to the BX to buy our own paper and pencils to write transcripts of enemy communications. There were no supplies whatsoever in the supply closet, as we were in minimum survival mode. But it wasn’t just a lack of supplies that stymied us; it was a lack of tasking. The national tasking was pared down to such an extent that we were not even putting resources on many key aspects of enemy operations, thus leaving us in the dark not just in the Middle East but around the globe. We simply didn’t have the equipment, manning, time, or other resources needed to do the job the way it needed to be done.
After he put us in a straight jacket and allowed the events of the Iran hostage crisis to occur, that schmuk Carter dared say, “My intelligence community let me down.” Just like every Leftist administration our nation has endured, the current one finds the intelligence community to blame for its own policy failures. It refuses to listen to the intelligence community, but then turns around and blames it when the SHTF, like some petulant child saying, “Why did you let me do that?! It’s all your fault!” America is always in danger when Leftists are in control. Why do the morons never learn a lesson?

last, Good work in a spot quantative analysis of ‘thumbs up’ and ‘thumbs down’ and initial or main comments on a major media post debate web site. Much traffic at Yahoo news.
. I no longer bother to join yahoo debate talk as the staff, AP , ABC and now new CEO are so pro Obama I thought I’d refrain. But, I’ll drop by if its still up this evening and do some thumbs up for Ryan. Yahoo was overwhelmed with viewers support for Ryan ooooooh.
Many of us posters in the majority used to point to news article bias in yahoo stories. One usual comment I make at yahoo news is,
“This reads like a free ad for DNC..
Democrats- operatives prefer not to initiate comments to risk having to defend Biden. Instead they react or respond with a Media Matters link or in yahoo’s case a’ thumbs down’.
Obama -Biden have a weak record to stand upon so seek to drive voters away from Romney-Ryan with slurs and demeaning gestures meant to convey disrespect and disregard.
Our blogging in support of a free and open press as well as in favor of Romney Ryan is a patriotic duty imo.
Greta at OTR on Fox read a NBC poll that backs up your observations at Yahoo comments–
Ryan 56
Biden 36

I disliked Joe Biden more as every second passed, from those big white teeth to his contemptuous misplaced laughter. His boorish yells and stomps turned me off. I’d have tuned out of that debate were I not viewing to support Mr Paul Ryan.
Mod Raddatz served as Joe’s tag team second. She also cut Ryan off when he was making a point several times. She talked too much herself and cut us off from what a VP candidate , Ryan was saying. many times.
Thumbs down to Martaha Raddatz as moderator

Mod Martha Raddatz was a Biden supporter and cut off Ryan time and time again in mid sentence. And she talked too much on top of halting Ryan in mid sentence.

I lost respect for Joe Biden when he plagiarized his speech when he ran for President. he has never said an intelligent thing in his life on his own. Last night was a disgrace to the office of VP and the moderator was a disgrace to moderators. People think she lost control but in reality she allowed Biden to interrupt Ryan deliberately. I don’t think this was an attempt to sway undecideds as much as it was an attempt to hold onto their base. my friends tht fit the categories i just named seem to bear me out on this. The one that is a staunch supporter was raving about how great Biden was and how he trampled Ryan. My undecided friend became decide though and is now a Romney supported. Hopefully that trend continued with more people.

i was typing mine while yours posted, I agree that Biden’s contradiction on the intel and the foolish naivete of his weapon statement need to be brought out into the light.

If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

~Proverbs 29:9

Of course politicians can’t be silent, but for clarification since there still seems to be some misunderstanding about what I meant, the main conversation about the debate has centered on Biden’s whacked out behavior. Perhaps had he not laughed, smirked, and interrupted so much (i.e. kept silent and held his tongue when Ryan was talking), he would have been perceived more favorably. Maybe not, though. Biden is pretty much a lost cause, so godly wisdom probably means nothing to him anyway.

Those pearly whites reminded me of Matt Dillon’s role in the flick “Something about Mary”. What a set of chompers!

Biden and wife Jill have not closed the door on his running for president 2016.

This election is too close to lose it over the abortion issue. Personally, I think most voters are against abortions, but they also don’t think government should dictate those views on others. Most female voters will not like the idea of overturning the Supreme Court ruling by congressional legislation. Regardless, such legislation would never get a two-thirds vote, so why risk losing the election on a non issue. Many Republicans feel stronly about this issue, but at the same time, they should understand people have the right to their own views as well. Why is it Republicans want government out of their personal lives, but when it comes to thier personal views, they don’t? How can you justify having it both ways?

You have no clue as to what you are talking about, but you just made Biden feel better now that there is another braying donkey in the midst of human kind.

fortunately the American people have

this is obviously just concern trolling using abortion as a stalking horse. The argument you are commenting on is silly. The logic incomprehensible.

something like that. Usually Bill S has hit the comments for the last time around midnight 1am Eastern. I hit it at 5am Eastern. That has cleared up the overnight comments. During the day a lot of folks pitch in. Erick has even whacked a couple this week… just to keep his hand in.

I don’t know if this has been mentioned or not, but under current presidential succession law, Biden *is* the next in line if something were to happen to President Obama (not that I would ever wish that, so please do not read something into my comment I did not say).

I think that fact *was* being considered by undecided voters, many of whom understand the way the system works – even if they don’t follow all the news from DC on a daily basis. That’s no small part of the reason that many undecideds tuned in; to see Paul Ryan and how that weighs in their decision. On that count, there was no contest. Ryan won hands down.

The Townhall may be a side show of Sandra Flukes and free birth control, Big Bird sob stories, and that crowd all brought in to attack Romney and play low ball while Obama agrees to print and borrow more money from China. Low ball issues have helped Obama with some voters.
The final Presidential debate one on one will be on foreign policy. This is the ground zero of issues. There is some question what Obama and Biden knew and when on Benghazi security that led to the death of Four Americans Sept 11, 2012. Biden claims ignorance of any security requests around Benghazi. Is ignorance now an excuse for ‘more of the same.’ If so vote Obama -Biden? I don’t think so.
We need a change at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, and voters may see that man , Romney in the foreign policy presidential debate.

Come on folks, let’s tell it like it is: You don’t believe in evolution and think the world was created in 6
days. You shouldn’t be allowed to vote, much
less govern.