“Personally, I expect another not great performance by the President, but a media so hell bent on a comeback narrative that they’ll give it to him even if he falls asleep.”

nahhh….tonight, Mitt’s going to go out there and win one for the Gipper…

If the facts don’t fit your narrative, change the facts.

Chess players might remember the great chess movie ‘Searching for Bobby Fischer’. I’m thinking of the scene in which the actor playing young champion Josh Waitzkin is troubled. It’s the night before the crucial match; he’s thinking of the strength and past performance of the brilliant prodigy he must win against.

He turns to his coach in despair and says ‘I can’t beat him.’

I’m pretty sure that that is exactly the way the zer0 feels tonight about Romney’s debating ability, substantive grasp of the issues, and his own record of failures. Only this time things won’t turn out as they do in Hollywood for BHO, and it’s not gonna be happy-ever-after for the snotty know-it-all, aka the smartest kid in the room.

The media cheerleader factor wouldn’t surprise me.

Don’t kid yourself. O’s problem is that he’s sure he’s the best there is at everything and he’s dismissive of everyone else. See A Hitler for a similar personality trait. He’ll go to his death believing that.

dunno…. even with a full backup squad in the press and at the podium, Obama’s habit of going into hiding for the past few months suggests there are beginning to be a few chinks in the veneer…

Rats! Romney’s opening salvo was not an answer to the question. Then again, neither was Obama’s…… The question wanted to know what would they do.

Probably true. Q1) A kid asks who can reassure him he’ll have a job, Obama accuses Romney of taking Detroit bankrupt.

What a lying hypocrite! Obama lies out his teeth as he answers the energy question and panders to the student’s previous question.
Romney is laying out the lies now…well done! Beat him over the head with the coal miners and with his own words! And the pipeline; way to go Mitt!

My words exactly

Romney clubbed Obama like a baby seal with the coal miners own words! OUCH! That left a mark.

Obama’s rebuttal on fuel prices got a laugh from the audience. That’s a big clue but he is not listening.

Yep, not sure who Obama thinks he is fooling by claiming the cost of gas was so low due to the recession and poor policy of the president before him. If that is what it takes to get a gallon of gas less than 2 dollars again, bring on the damn recession.

because R knows that the only way BHO can win this thing is if Obama lies and the MSM cheat.

Obama’s voice seems high to me. Looks desperate.
Mitt’s doing a great job taking it to him. He looks great vs. the mean, small man behind him. Staying calm and in charge. Great pursuit of the federal oil issue – obvious Obama was obfuscating and trying to distract.

Obama on taxes: I choose to ignore the huge tax rises from Obamacare and my job destroying record of advocating oppressive taxes on the job creators.
Ahhh, Obama is back to the numbers game again. I hear he cheats on his golf scores and those are only 2 and 3 digit numbers. How can he possibly keep up with trillions???

I’ve said it before: Obama hiked taxes and passed new ones, permanently, and tries to clutter up the code with temporary goodies to hide this. Does he think we’re idiots?

Romney holds his ground, refusing to submit to Crowley’s hypothetical! Turns it back onto Obama’s record….Gunnyg2002 – Romney may run out of baby seals if he keeps stomping on O and the mod like that. Artfully done!

Can’t believe Obama is using Biden’s smile-shake-your-head-and-laugh tactic.

Man, Romney is a sight to behold during these debates. He has Obama’s number in a big way and is coming loaded for bear each and every moment.

Romney just missed HUGE opportunity. Obozo mentioned something about “not taking a deal where you don’t know what was in it.” I would have jumped on him with “You can’t know what’s in the bill (OCare) until you pass it.” BIG MISS.

The dial twisters are about two to one Obama voters last time, who have no compunction about claiming to be uncommitted now.

Romney obviates the Obama rambling with his Mass. record of selecting women for top jobs. Segways into his upcoming policies for equal hiring and scheduling smoothly.
Obama comes back to talk about women’s health care. Where is the moderator? Candy? Candy???

The Candy Girl is supporting Obozo as best she can.

Of course he’s using the smile-shake-laugh. The Dem base loved it. We saw it as the condescening manner that it portrays. They think its “cute”.

…in other news, dog bites man….

Obama is a pathological liar unable to KNOW the truth. To him, the truth is whatever he thinks it is. He has been coddled his whole made up life and now it is biting him in the a&&.

Obozo wants to cheat.

Obama just stepped on Mitt’s time before he could even start!

She makes a nice fullback leading the way through the hole.

Romney hits it out of the park with his answer to the Bush comparison; then drags O in and beats him with the deficit growth. Great on the small business answer and pulls in Obamacare to boot.

Of course Obama wasn’t in Congress, he was President, and he had no problem at all with passing a pig in a poke.

HEY! Eyes on your own paper, paladin1
Agreed 100%…that was a brutal and true assessment that struck Obama in the gut.

Is there an actual live chat somewhere during the debate or is everyone just talking here?

We’re all watching and responding here…not sure what you’re looking for.

What do you expect from pigs but grunts?

I personally liked the point where Romney told Obozo to cool his jets ’til it was his turn.

He didn’t save the auto industry. Only GM and Chrysler are now owned by the government. Ford said, “No, thanks.” Go out and buy a Ford tomorrow.

End the war in Iraq? Obama did nothing but continue what Bush started in the Status of Forces agreement that was decided before O even set foot in the WH. Obama followed Bush’s orders.

Number of people APA Guy knows who work in the auto industry: 0
I wonder how many votes the “saved GM” BS actually wins O in reality.

They ain’t worth it. Romney is reaching REAL AMERICANS!

Obama = toast toast toast.

He should forfeit the next one. He could not look any more pathetic than now.

Agreed

He’s surgically removing Obama’s 2nd term, Flagstaff…that’s how my wife phrased it

“We now have a record to look at” and then a few examples.

Romney is now reciting the Obama promise failures that are ruining the middle class. Speak slowly Gov., so that everyone hears it. Ok! Romney invokes Reagan and beats O with Reagan’s record of growth.

This reply was an AMAZING fanny whipping served up beautifully!!!

Thing of beauty…and as for Obama, he looks like he swallowed a t**d when Romney wails on him.

555…Romney has this “polite assassin” stuff mastered where debates are concerned.

Boy…. “I’ve done everything I can on my own” this has some major smack-down potential. Yes it is…it’s scary when even illegals know there are no jobs in America.

Romney gave Obama a load of 000 buckshot on his broken promises and economy killing policies. YEOW!

Obama never sat down with Republicans once. And he had a super majority.

I like the edit.

There is no doubt. Romney is an alpha male.

I think he meant obama.

If Bush’s policies were so bad, why did unemployment average 5% for most of his 8 years?

Man, I feel like a schmoe now for dissing Romney during the primaries. This guy is the real deal. Obama is going down…I can feel it in my heart and see it every day here in the Hoosier State.

That’s a good response. My main like was that he commented on disliking the deficits under Bush – which is my biggest criticism of the administration coupled with entitlement expansion and No Child Left Behind.

See edit.

Oh my Libya..

Obama IS taking pointers from Biden! Interrupting and stealing Mitt’s time with the help of the mod. Yet Mitt is still winning.

so now Obama WAS in the loop on Libya?

that is a good sign… R is known to be a strong closer, and O’s Achilles’ heel has been his lack of physical and mental stamina under continued pressure

They just keep talking and hope that no one is listening on the rare times it is brought up.

Oh yes!!! The Bengazi question hits O in the face. O says he ordered beefed up security after the fact. Then repeats the Biden mantra : I say what I mean and mean what I say. The coffin invocation…bet he has NEVER greeted one single coffin from a soldier or a diplomat in his entire career, except for the ambassador’s!

The kos kids are going NUTS over the fact that Libya is even being discussed in this debate…and they’re hating the dialogue…wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

“I take responsibility…by tossing Hillary off the boat and drinking a martini”…colossal FLOP on that answer.

Oooooh, Candy!!! You talk so gooooood.

Where DOES that buck stop?

Who cares about catching scum. Why did it happen in the first place?

The fist-pointing looks very odd, O can’t pull it off like Clinton did.

Candy forces an answer to the Hillary responsibility question on Bengazi. Then buffers O and corrects Romney over the video question? What crap!

He C’d HA at the time. Did mention it while claiming it was the video’s fault.

Comfort somebody who lost someone? Let’s get into Fast and Furious.

Oh but the damage is already done…that one will be looped endlessly in the days to follow.

Since 9 have been unable to get disqus to load, now at 10:15 it suddenly loads but I’ve missed most of the comments. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Yes please.

I KNEW we should have played the Osama bin Laden drinking game. I’d be under the table or throwing up by now!

PLEASE bing up Fast and Furious!

really, I’ve had se…sears catalogues I haven’t enjoyed this much. (cough)

Technically only 3 because R gets the 2 minute rebuttal for the question

did i just hear Obama say “please proceed” instead of answering Mitt’s question? And then did Crowley support Obama? This moderator sucks in my opinion

Yeah, Martha Raddatz would’ve been proud. After Libya came up, I thought Obama would’ve been glad to go back to learning about his pension.

Here he goes …

In some states, like Massachusetts, it is.

it is without the special tax stamp so true enough

Crowley couldn’t jump to O’s defense fast enough. And the little whiner even thanked her. Disgusting. Crowley has been a disaster as are all of the leftist journalists who are in the O’s pocket.

FAST AND FURIOUS NUKE!

The Second Amendment and O—Enforce the current law, re-institute the assault weapon ban, and teach the gang-bangers to sing Kum-bay-yah.
Romney brings parenting, jobs and responsibility, and single-parent family tobear….OKKK—Fast and Furious!!! Go Governor, beat him with it! Expose his cover-up!
Candy saves the O once again.

YESSSS!!!! Let’s see how fast O & C can get this swept away…

The ABC poll is garbage.

welcome to our world apa guy, glad to have you aboard. He is the real deal! Crowley’s puss is always so off putting, she just cut Mitt off AGAIN

Candy Crowley is full of garbage also.

yes

Boy, Obama’s got her name down well.

Obama: “I want to buy the world a coke and teach it to sing in perfect harmony….”

Candy bails him out.

ha ha ha, love it

I still say deportment and behavior is more important than almost anything they can say. Obama goes over the time limit again.

Uh, you only run 4 corners if you’re ahead…Obama is losing this debate.

Mitt basically said I can bring to opposing sides together and find common ground. Americans in the middle love that.

I’m glad he finally mentioned “big” business.

No one will call him on it either.

CHINA is a manipulator. YEP

Thank you.

I love the “trickle down government” line! Great follow-up with facts and specifics on China currency manipulator. Then bolstering his economic program and dragging in passing, government regulations which crush business as well. Quite well done.

The good thing is that most people who care already know. For those that don’t care, it doesn’t matter anyway.

He’s been trying to interrupt just as much too.

And you notice that every time Obama steps forward indicating that he would like another chance on a given tactic – he’s almost always given the floor.

She’s also cut off Romney multiple times when he was on a role.

By shutting him up, she probably saved him.

Obama is caught with nowhere to hide. He says it took a while to find out, but then Mitt catches him saying that in the Rose Garden he said it was terror. Yet Rice was still saying it was the video much later. Obama just inadvertently admitted that he put out a false theme and that he knew by the next day minimum that it was terror.
Could this be the crushing blow?
Mitt is sharp.

Hey Streiff!! That’s not fair. We read your stuff. We have bathrooms too, ya know. Your wife’s not the only one who appreciate’s your wisdom.

I don’t think that is the comment that’s been distributed.

Obama’s wrist, is it broken?

90 minutes.

No, just limp.

Well, he certainly did better than the first debate, but that is a pretty low bar.

O has save 47% for the final comment.

Her, Lehrer and that other person on the VP debate. They are all running. Didn’t you know that?

haha

Spot on. Romney is much more articulated and to the point.

can i call her a bad name? no I guess i shouldn’t. But we all knew before it started that’d she’d not be fair Romney

When Obama comes on I have to mute. I listened to about 10 minutes on the radio. His pauses are painful and contrived.

O ends up +3.

Doubt that even 30% of the audience there are really “undecided”.

You called that one right.

everyone should play by the same rules? So we should ALL pay income taxes??

Fairness?? Best middle class??? What good is a middle class that is shrinking constantly and has NO opportunity to become Upper Class.

Mitt looks a little tired, but he’s still dominating Obama!! Mitt’s been busy out campaigning, and Obama has been resting and preparing between golf games.

and this debate – for casual voters – is as much about each man showing who they are and how they say it, rather than precisely *what* they say.

HEAR HEAR!

Here’s the WH transcript from the Sept 12 Rose Garden – NO MENTION of terror!:
I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in
Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris
Stevens. Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in
our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America’s commitment to freedom,
justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in
stark contrast to those who callously took their lives.

I have directed my Administration to provide all necessary resources to
support the security of our personnel in Libya, and to increase security at our
diplomatic posts around the globe. While the United States rejects efforts to
denigrate the religious beliefs of others, we must all unequivocally oppose the
kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants.

On a personal note, Chris was a courageous and exemplary representative of
the United States. Throughout the Libyan revolution, he selflessly served our
country and the Libyan people at our mission in Benghazi. As Ambassador in
Tripoli, he has supported Libya’s transition to democracy. His legacy will
endure wherever human beings reach for liberty and justice. I am profoundly
grateful for his service to my Administration, and deeply saddened by this
loss.

The brave Americans we lost represent the extraordinary service and
sacrifices that our civilians make every day around the globe. As we stand
united with their families, let us now redouble our own efforts to carry their
work forward.

What did I tell you?

Only disastrous to Obama!!

Where’s the agenda for the second term?

MSNBC is happy. The libs liked it. Not sure any swing voters came away liking the Prez more. Romney’s prosecution of the Obama economy was strong.

Exactly. I actually think Romney probably damaged Obama’s soft support with his case about the economy and Obama’s broken promises.

He also was wishy washy on his greatest middle class crap.

He also took a play out of the Biden book and was smirky and laughing off camera a lot.

Worst debate format, ever… Crowley is definitely in the running with Gwen Ifill for the worst debate moderator.

Thanks for the post! I did not remember him saying that it was terroist attack! I think Candy Crowley was worse than Martha since she repeated the lie! It is about time Republicans ask at least one moderator from Fox News.

yes. Humans are pretty hard-wired to know when someone is lying and a phony, so it’s naturally hard to listen to. Witness how a even a baby in a stroller starts to cry when a person who really hates kids leans over the pram, pretends to like her and act interested…

Or even Jan Crawford.

I’m reading the Hotair comments and that Gumbyandpokey guy’s gone gaga.

I don’t think I can watch anymore. I will vote, but it makes me angry that Republican leadership sets us up to lose debates playing against a loaded deck.

Even though I knew that Candy will be double teaming Romney…it was tough watching this…..I lost count of the times she bailed Obama out & repeating his lies…..got so frustrating. I would like to see a person like Newt b*%$# slap these liberals more often!

She kept talking over Romney too, even when O was five minutes ahead in time.

agreed……..so true so true

CBS snap poll shows Obama win?
Obamaloney. But I can see the headlines.

Obama was just lying.

Candy didn’t realize it, but she helped prove Romney’s point. The President called it an act of terror. Yes, you are correct Candy.

This is why Republicans have to win by a landslide. Otherwise the MSM can direct public perception however they want

I only saw the second half of the debate, but it seems to have been another 2 on 1 job, with the ‘moderator’ letting Obama talk willy-nilly while cutting off Romney when he has a full head of steam. That said, I think Romney did very well, a bit better than Obama overall, and only half a dozen Obama lies slipping through un-noticed.

BTW, Obama seems to really love him some Planned Parenthood. And the strawmen, always the strawmen with him.

There was clear collusion between Crowley and Obama on the Libya question. Obama challenged Romney about whether Obama called it terrorism, and Crowley stated he called it terrorisom on 9/12.
Obama did not call it terrorism. He said that terrorism would not be tolerated, then went on to talk about the video.
The “tell” on this was his smirk and the way he looked at Crowley. There is no doubt this was planned in advance.
As people think on this, most will see this collusion taking place.

Will be interesting to see how this plays put. Obama now says a passing reference to terror means he called it terrorism from the beginning? Romney got hung up on a gotcha moment that didn’t work. But this opens the door for more Libya talk which is a losing conversation for Obama. And just like Biden the administration is going to have to spin Obama saying he knew it was terror.

Trolls? NO! I’m not loaded with troll-shot. I got some bird shot, Some silver for werewolves. Darn it. Moderator Bill got all my troll shot. And I was going to use it too on the AK47 question. Shoot.

A good point… if you can get the moderator to shut up and stop changing the topic when you get some traction.

BIG BIRD!

If the MSM is starting to seriously fact check Mr. Obama, then they are sensing a turning of the tide. If this guy goes down, they want some fig leaves to cover their shame for prostituting themselves for 4 years.

good catch….makes sense…I was very angry that i could not pay much attention.

The individual issue polls will be interesting.
Mitt should start hammering Libya and Obamacare more, as well as drilling.

65% say Romney won on the economy in the insta-poll.

REmember that CNN had to approve the questions. nuff said

Romney was solid, but not spectacular. Obama was full of crap.

Not many undecideds left, I think. Crowd was packed with Obamatons, but some good guys got in some great questions;.

I doubt if these are undecided! They are Dem plants so that more questions on women’s health issue other frovolous issues to distract from JOBS ….free contraceptives crowd…..gimme a f…… break when there are so many major issues…….I really hate this format…because it lets in morons aka Dems acting as undecided.

And also fact-checking on did he/did he not say ‘terror” in the Rose Garden speech after Benghazi attack.

But you’re right, kipling. Same thing we’re starting to see with polling agencies. I even heard someone from one of the polling groups come right out and say that most of the polls they do during the general election are intended to influence public opinion rather than report public opinion…until they get to that last month or so, then they have to go back to acting like they have integrity.

Agreed!

Libya was dowplayed and Candy Moderator rescued Obama one more time. Her bias was obvious as she pandered to special interests like women and Amnesty from a DNC point of view.
She gave Obama a pass on debt, high unemployment and energy independence.
They say Obama was more aggressive, so what? did he have anymore substance than in Debate one or for the last four years?

Did you hear O answer the man who said why should I vote for you? He said, “I did this, I did that, I did, I did, I did…. finally used we….

Obama can forget about coasting to victory on the basis of a small mistake by Romney, especially with the next debate on foreign policy alone.

Ahhh. See this hits home, KosKids. Your thumbs down reveals your inner-insecurity. Romney’s point was obviously effective.

Romney gets high votes and ratings from the Frank Luntz focus group tonight on Hannity with some or all Obama voters 2008. Many switched support and found he did not defend his record and has not come through on anything.
This group swung as much as did the focus group in Denver.

I loved that!

yep……

The messiah proved again tonight that he is the Prevaricator-in-Chief.

In between ums and uhs, he told more whoppers than I could bear without yelling at the television.

Sure would be nice to have a legacy media that actually does its job of calling Him on the half-truths and lies.

I thought it worked fine. Obama saying to ‘move on’ looked very bad like he knew he was in trouble.

Education was hardly discussed enough. Neither was the budget.

Frank Luntz’ Nevada group reaction was staggering. U of Col survey gives Romney 77% probability of winning “popular vote”. www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4435

Anyone else saw that photo of Ann glaring at Obama?

In truth, the Federal govt cant do much to make education better, and it was great in debate #1 how Romney turned around Obama’s lame “Romney hates teachers(*)” talking point to defend the 10th amendment. This go around, it was a more generic “education good”.

(*) This was because Obama had that ‘stimulus’ bogus govt money giveaway back in 2010 that was to shovel more money to blue state teachers unions.
Republicans opposed it, it didnt grow the economy, it just grew the government.

I’m sick and tired of the trolls.

Who won the second presidential debate, Cast your vote on masslive.com
(yes liberal La-La Land of W/Mass) October 16, 11:10 Mitt Romney 57.12%
2,953 votes Barack Obama 39.13% 2,023 votes.

same here, i lurk more than post, but happy that i have here to know that im not alone

Agree! Thank you! Nice to blow off some steam before going to sleep!

I do not think the MSM will go after Romney on the Libya portion. Simply because Romney was right. Let’s look at the timeline and Obama’s own words. On the 12th of September, he did condemn “acts of terror” but never characterized the Benghazi attacks as perpetrated by terrorists (a terrorist attack).

As late as the 25th of September, Obama stood before the UN and aplogized for the video and blamed it for the violence. No mention of a terrorist attack was made. For two weeks members of this administration, including Obama continued to either blame the video or refuse to admit it was a terrorist attacks. These are facts and the notion that Ms. Crowley would back up the President’s falsehood is damaging to her credibility as a journalist.

they will try till the next debate, and then the cat will be let out of the bag…..

“credibility as a journalist”

*incapable of responding, too busy laughing*

Really? Wow. Rush L. Made the comment after Denver debate that this was the Obama we all heard before, nothing new.

In THIS debate, we saw this before too, like when Obama lectured Paul Ryan. This was the testy, hyper-partisan Obama, bashing Republicans.

Obama was lying all over the place. His Libya answer was a rehearsed act of ‘statesmanlike’ dishonesty, graciously taking responsibility for failures his administration spent the last month lying about.

Romney being ‘corrected’ on the Libya statement is a BIG OPPORTUNITY to ask the question: What did the President know about the attack and when did he know it? When did Obama know it was a preplanned terrorist attack?

No wonder CNN has the absymal ratings….& they think they are in the middle of left & right!

OBAMA LIED. AMBASSADOR DIED. (not necessarily in that order)

LOL..Perhaps I should have said that the veneer of journalistic credibility was painfully removed tonight. Crowley downright embarassed herself.

Thank you, now it is Romney 58.3%!

“Undecided voter” Catherine Fenton may be same Catherine Fenton who was the coordinater of Code Pink in Long Island. She asked an explicitly feminist question and if it’s the same Catherine Fenton, she was a political activist in 2008 who advocated for Obama. See http://www.volokh.com/2012/10/16/was-undecided-questioner-catherine-fenton-media-coordinator-of-codepink-long-island/

Candy Crowley has now admitted that Romney was right on the Rose Garden speech but “chose a poor word”. So the moderator has pretty much said she screwed that one up. Mike Allen also said something on C-SPAN.

I think we’ll see that be the lead in the “fact checking” and they’ll all say that while President Obama did make mention to “acts of terror” he was not explicit in calling Benghazi one. If they’re even a mile away from fair they’ll mention his appearance on The View where he denies they were a terrorist act.

One point I’m gathering from the comments made by the Luntz focus group is that the details Romney provided in regards to the approach he would be taking with taxes was information that almost all of them could apply to their own personal situation in one way or another.

And quite a few free-market enterprise small business champions in that group! I was glad to see them expressing an awareness that small business growth is the key to a recovery for our economy.

Not quite true there car salesman, while they have paid a large portion of the bill back, there is still nearly 2 billion of the original loan not paid back that Obama eventually forgave once they came out of bankruptcy and the government did own a percent of shares in the company. These shares never equaled what is actually owed even after the sale to Fiat. On just the money loaned to Chrysler between Bush and Obama, taxpayers have lost no less than 1.3 billion.

OK, I went to the WH site and listened and watched Obama’s Sept 12 Rose Garden speech. He does make a reference to “no acts of terror” which can arguably mean he knew THAT MORNING that this was an act of terror. Which raises the question why he was still speaking of the youtube video two weeks later. WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT? My guess is this – Obama knew it was a terrorist attack that morning, and his political advisors decided that day that they would spin this as a reaction to the video. Any way you cut this, he is digging himself a deeper and deeper hole.

I did not like the gotcha attempts by Mitt. Every good trial lawyer knows you never ask a question that you do not know the answer to.

Like the Veep debate, it may appear to stem the bleeding at first but then the lies will force new inquiries and keep the issues alive.

WOW. the best indication that Romney really won this debate decisively. I could care less about most of these manufactured media polls. but romney just dominated in the Luntz focus group of previously undecided voters. Many of them made a firm decision for Romney. One of them – fascinating – said that she was “like many people I know – undecided – but undecided between Romney and not voting” – she decided to vote for Romney. all of this speaks to Morris theory – that the late breaking movement is heavy for the challenger.
the link:
http://www.therightscoop.com/frank-luntz-focus-group-overwhelmingly-thought-romney-was-more-presidential/

Even John King said that if Romney is winning the issue of the economy by that large of a margin, Romney will be the next president. The silence of the rest of the CNN panel (including Van Jones) was DEAFENING.

Couldn’t disagree more…not “gotchya” when you catch a liar in a lie.

When was this, APA Guy? Prior to the debate or afterward?

And when would that be? It was Obama who did not know what he was talking about. All the Presideng did was repeat tired talking points.

we always watch the Luntz focus groups segments this are plain honest folks just like us, we can identify with them.

I found their reponses intriguing and reflective of something I mentioned after the debate. Obama has failed to outline what he will do in the next four years and how he will fix the economy. Simply taxing the rich is not a plan that means much to people who are struggling financially.

Additionally, you cannot win a campaign based on attacking the other guy all of the time. You have to actually outline what you are for, not what a jerk the other guy is.

Romney has done a great job of keeping it simple and explaining to people his plans for fixing this mess. He shows a good grasp pf economics and job creation. That gives people confidence and hope.

Disagree. That was a gotcha question and he handled it well. He needed to point out F&F, and he did. Did you notice how quickly Crowley tried to shut him up?

After the debate.

Thanks, Flagstaff. I’ll have to see if I can track that down on video somewhere.

This so called debate was cherry picked by Crowley and almost all from liberal DNC point of view. Imagine if some Conservative issues had been raised that held Obama and his record to scruitiny..
Romney still managed to shine on the economy and taxes that will help small businesses and the miiiddle class. On foreign policy Obama has a few days to mke up more cover ups for the foreign policy debate. Bottom line the US was hit Sept 11 by al queda in Benghazi and he blamed a video if sending AmbRice out to five Senday shows is an example of a cover up.
The Frank Luntz focus group in Neveda switched to Romney!

Incredible! Candy the Mod herself picked that Bush bashing question as I understand how the questions were decided. It is an Obama talk point that Romney will return to Bush years.

Were there any questions on debt reduction and spending?

Bush lowered taxes to current rates. Bush left us a debt of four trillion in eight years In four years Obama have given us Six trillion. Romney believes in a balanced budget as the center of his administration, he says. He would lower taxes for most and help small businesses thus growing jobs.
Romney postponed a policy speech on debt reduction Gretawire reports tonight.

I agree.

It appears that Ms. Fenton may not be the same Ms. Fenton of Code Pink in Long Island (perhaps a relative?) – the Ms. Fenton of Code pink would likely be older than the person who asked the question during the debate.

Why doesn’t it bother anybody in the press that the Obama story about the Benghazi attack doesn’t even make sense?

And does it bother anybody else that Crowley was so quick to get in Romney’s way when he was getting close to the truth about Obama’s statement on the next day?

It all stinks to high heaven, and so do journalistic ethics at CNN.

I actually wrote a diary about what I would do for the auto industry back in 2008.
Obama did nothing like I suggested – I was much closer to Romney’s plan: Private bankruptcy with private funds.
And Obama was wrong about “saving the auto industry”, Rest assured we are in total agreement on that issue. What GM needed was a cash infusion and a leaner business model.
What they received was a cash version of Niagara Falls, courtesy the US Taxpayer, and they still need $2500 more per car than does Toyota.
Ten years from now, when GM is broke again, the left will blame it on some Republican.