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Howie Politics refuses to release full internals on Donnelly +11 (:rolling eyes:) IN-SEN poll.

[UPDATE] Hey, they released the results! …And, yeah: Question 26.  9% of their LVs voted in the Indiana GOP primary. :pause: Okaaaay…]

You’ve probably heard by now that Howey Politics has put out a shock poll on the Indiana Senate race indicating that Democrat Joe Donnelly was up eleven points on Richard Mourdock (the guy who beat Richard Lugar out for the Republican nomination: this will be important to remember, later).  What you probably have not seen is any sort of analysis of the poll in question, largely because… there’s no full crosstabs.  In fact, there’s not even a link to the dang thing besides Howey Politics’ own front page.  This might be because they haven’t put together something for public consumption… or it may be because Howey Politics is apparently a bit… notorious… in Indiana for oddball poll results (apparently, the same poll says that Indiana favors decriminalizing pot and split on same-sex marriage).  Or maybe it’s because Howey’s own co-pollster is not exactly ready to claim that the race is that bad, or will be that bad on Election Day (via Legal Insurrection).  At any rate, Richard Mourdock is calling for the full internals on this one, and who can blame him?

Well… probably anybody who wants to see him lose, sure.

Look, if you want to believe Richard Mourdock is currently behind in this race, go ahead: Rasmussen agrees with you (and, at the moment, so do I).  Only, they have him down by only two points, which sounds a lot more reasonable.  Or sane, frankly.  But the level of detail given to this ‘revelation’ of Howey Politics is what I’d normally associate with an agitprop internal poll, put out by a losing campaign – which, as Hoosier Access perhaps snidely noted, apparently applies to Howey Politics when it comes to Dick Lugar.  You have to give out something for people to analyze, honestly.

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  • kowalski

    No, I hadn’t heard about that, but it’s time for an open thread. Because the real news is that Schumer+Obama are going to save the day across the tri-state area tomorrow because they finally released the gasoline supplies on Thursday by relaxing EPA regulations for the types of gasoline that can be distributed.

    http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-11-01/markets/34850859_1_gasoline-lines-at-gas-stations-east-coast

    They waited until yesterday to waive the restrictions on reformulated gasoline, and that could have been done a lot earlier: on Monday. In anticipation of the largest storm event in the universe, they really should have waived the reformulated regulations last Saturday or Sunday. If they had taken that sensible step — since they knew where the hurricane was going — it would have spared everyone in New Jersey and New York a lot of trouble, a lot of heartache, and a lot of suffering.

    Now it seems as though they’re coming to their “rescue” when in fact they waited until people started screaming on Staten Island, pulling guns on each other in New Jersey, and Schumer could be there to hear it and promise the gasoline was coming.

    Dead silence on this issue here at Redstate but the gasoline WAS IN New Jersey on Monday it just could not be SHIPPED AND SOLD until the EPA temporarily waived its regs.

    It looks a lot to me like the Obama EPA waited until the moment of maximum pain to waive a regulation that could have saved a lot of suffering.

  • westcoastpatriette

    More real news is that Mayor Bloomburg just caved to public outrage and cancelled the marathon race planned for NYC this weekend. To think he would even consider pushing through all of the accommodations for this race while dead bodies are still being found and people are hungry, thirsty and homeless is inconceivable.

  • kowalski

    Things are REALLY bad in New Jersey and in New York. In terms of gasoline supplies, a lot of it was purely unnecessary. Temporarily waiving the EPA requirement for reformulated gas should have been a step taken preemptively to ease supply problems IN ADVANCE of the storm – they knew how big it was, and they knew where it was going. We knew in Massachusetts on SATURDAY.

    That step wasn’t taken until everyone in New Jersey and New York started to FREAK OUT and get covered by the local news.

  • westcoastpatriette

    I’m so sick of the phony, hypocritical press covering for Obama…if Hurricane Sandy were happening under Bush, the press would be all over the inept way things are being handled. But their silence is deafening.

    Sorry for the thread jack, Moe. We need the daily briefing to allow us to post open thread discussions like we used to. I feel stifled without that function. Grrrrr!

  • kowalski

    There would have been nothing wrong with holding the marathon this weekend if the rest of the region had a little relief in terms of basic supplies like gasoline. The problem is that the Obama EPA waited until Thursday to temporarily waive the restriction. It would have been fine for Bloomberg and New York and everyone in the marathon to have it’s showpiece “bounce back” event – I actually agree with Bloomberg that it would have been a good thing to do – but only if the people at even higher levels than Bloomberg had a lick of sense and had allowed the nonreformulated gasoline to reach people throuought the area.

    You can’t have people on Staten Island in the staging area who cannot feed their children because their cars are out of gas at the same time you’re organizing an event like that. But changing the EPA regs to temporarily waive that requirement is not in his purview. To people like Cuomo, Schumer and Obama, there were larger political reasons at stake.

    I suspect Bloomberg actually held out to the last minute on the Marathon because the generators were privately funded. The Road Runners bought and paid for the generation capacity. Don’t blame the wrong people. There was nothing wrong intrinsically with holding the marathon this weekend – except for the fact that too many other people in the region are needlessly – NEEDLESSLY – suffering because of a gasoline shortage that could have been abated with the stroke of a pen last Saturday instead of THIS FRIDAY.

  • quantguy

    In reality Murdoch should have this wrapped up, it is never the less the state that sent (R) Dan Coates to DC in 2010 (by a margin of +14% (54% to 40%); where (R) Gov Daniels won re-election in 2008 over his D-challenger 57% to 40%; where in Feb of 2012 became the first state in the “Rust Belt” of the Midwest and Northeast to adopt right-to-work law’s http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-02-01/indiana-right-to-work-bill/52916356/1

    Donnelly ran uncontested in his primary getting 207,715 votes and Murdoch ran in a contested race against a 6 term incumbent where he recvd 400,321 of 661,606 cast.

    Tab’s please????

  • kowalski

    Right, I’m sorry too for the threadjack. It had to be said. There was no other good place to put it. Please move the messages or ask us to retype them, I’ll be happy to.

  • earlgrey

    I can’t believe IN residents are going to promote Donnely after he gave us Obamacare. Glad I no longer live there.

    I know Mourdock’s rape statements were bad, but can’t help but feel like Lugar’s behavior after and during the race went against Mourdock here. Also, I am just not sure if Mourdock gives that warm, fuzzy personality that so many peiople seem to want.

    Still total bummer. This is a bitter one for me.

  • fightnright

    “Because the real news is that Schumer+Obama are going to save the day across the tri-state area tomorrow because they finally released the gasoline supplies on Thursday…”

    ‘Save the day?’ Good Lord, that’s not unlike the old Jackie Mason joke where he says that one time Frank Sinatra actually saved his life – ‘Sinatra said ‘Okay, he’s had enough, boys.’

    I’m not sure if the numbers would change that much for Obama no matter what he does this weekend. Let’s face it, anyone who is truly undecided at this point – after 4 years of Obamanomics and inept Foreign Policy – is beyond question a ass or an idiot and Obama’s had the ass/idiot vote locked down for a long time now. I can’t believe that any voter with the vision and common sense to realize how desperately America needs a new, capable leader in the WH would change their mind because of four days’ events, and anyone dumb enough to vote for more Zer0 because of a final Hail Mary pass was probably dumb enough to decide to vote for him anyway.

  • kowalski

    Nothing has changed. The joke is still on.

    I really feel sorry for the woman on Staten Island. It’s a sad spectacle. There are people who could say she doesn’t deserve to have any sympathy but she honestly believes that people like Schumer and Cuomo and Obama are really looking out for her or care about her at all.

    Q: “When is the Government Coming?”
    A: “When we’re damn good and ready.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/11/02/Staten-Island-Resident-Confronts-Chuck-Schumer-We-Are-Gonna-Die

    They need gasoline and just as I said, Miraculously now that Chuck Schumer has been on camera there and the regulations were waived, it will be: “Let There Be Gasoline.” I predict everyone on Staten Island will have lots of gas by Monday.

  • fightnright

    We have older Republican family members who have had to be moved from their assisted living or senior residences this week, and believe me if Obama himself delivered food, gas and generators to their front doors yesterday, they’d still kill me if I even ~suggested~ casting a vote for him.

    I still say that Dem vultures circling the scene to feed off this tragedy will not move any significant support away from Romney. (R) voters are a pretty smart lot. And I think the tiny fraction of folks moved positively by such an incident toward BHO are amongst the most casual, least motivated voters, who are unlikely to even get to the polls.

  • gayla

    A media which can make a crisis out of the size of your soft drink can create a full fledged catastrophe out of a RELIGIOUS conviction. That is if it opposes their own. Regarding N.Y. and N.J., one thing nobody seemed to notice. When it became obvious people could not get to the Marathon (still on tap Thursday) because of gasoline shortages, the restrictions were lifted. I’m sure it will be promoted as “For the people of the N.Y.City area.

  • WhiteOut

    This guy Howey is a known statist here in the hoosier state. tries to pose himself as an objective analyst, but you pretty much kjnow what his ‘analysis’ is going to be before he gives it on any issue.

    of course the indystar seems to prop him up as their best offering for political anaysis/opinion. It’s pretty much good for the bird cage and that’s about it.

  • WhiteOut

    This guy Howey is a known statist here in the hoosier state. tries to pose himself as an objective analyst, but you pretty much kjnow what his ‘analysis’ is going to be before he gives it on any issue.

    of course the indystar seems to prop him up as their best offering for political anaysis/opinion. It’s pretty much good for the bird cage and that’s about it.

  • WhiteOut

    Here’s a good background of the Howey poll on Mourdock. The pollster Yang works for Axelrod. Was actually supoena’d in the Blagojevich case…

    so is Howey a hack? Naaaaaa!

    http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2012/11/rasmussen-shows-closer-mourdock.html

  • Gran

    Howey/DePauw never had Mourdock ahead, even before the rape remark. If they were to be believed, the rape remark had no effect on the actual result, just the margin of the result.

  • jpalm

    Lugar RINO POC, is trying to spitefully ruin a republican’s chances!

  • APA Guy

    Mark my words, fellow conservatives…and mark them well: Richard Mourdock will win this race. It will be closer than it might have been before the last debate, but he will win this seat. I have traveled up and down this state in the weeks leading up to the election. I counted a total of 12 Donnelly signs in 6 counties, whereas countless Mourdock and/or “Say No to Joe” signs flood the yards in this great state.

    The polling in this state (even that which was done by Rasmussen) is EXTREMELY suspect, as it has featured extraordinarily large numbers of undecided voters and questionable (to say the least) sampling. This is a Republican state…and Donnelly has been married to Obama politically in nearly every single ad Mourdock has run. Obama is very, very unpopular here…as are his policies. There is no way I see this seat going to a liberal like Joe “I support the failed stimulus and Obamacare” Donnelly.

  • APA Guy

    We won’t, earlgrey…as I have been telling you for weeks. I’m here on the ground…and I’m telling you support for Donnelly is scarce.

  • kowalski

    Free gasoline! Cuomo announces free fuel, courtesy of the Department of Defense.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/department_of_defense_setting_up_XK9Cli2PXUEFWZC0d8abMM

    It’s so easy to read this stuff….

  • westcoastpatriette

    That makes me want to puke, kowalski. The pandering is just as likely to further insult peoples’ dignity as it is to be appreciated. The Dems just keep getting more and more out of tune when it comes to hitting the right note. But, this is the Socialist President’s way forward — stick his hands in our pockets to give handouts as he deems fit in order to win favor from others. Repugnant.

  • kowalski

    I’ll say again – they wouldn’t have had to do it if they had waived the EPA requirements five or six days before the problem became a matter of life and death. But that doesn’t build DRAMA. It doesn’t let anyone come to the rescue.

    In order to come to the rescue, you have to have a catastrophic situation to solve. If you prevent the catastrophic situation from happening, you will never be able to come to the rescue!

    Governor Knight Cuomo is riding in on his White Horse with Free Gasoline! You can hear the horseshoes! The Government has Arrived! Its name is Cuomo!

  • earlgrey

    PIns and needles. I swore two weeks ago I was done giving for the season, and have since sent in 3 donations one of which was for Mourdock. Kid needs braces, glasses and we need a new roof. I am glad this election is almost over! I really wish I was one of those women with a shoe obsesssion instead of an election obsession.
    The fam. is about to have a stroke over Mourdock and your state superintendent of education race. I advised my mom to ask voters if they want to ride in a car engineered by people that can’t do algebra. One response: they do all that in Japan anyway.

  • Dave_A

    Lugar is supporting Mourdock.

    I still want him to win, but seriously, the foot-in-mouth disease thing has to be brought under control. Eg, the Party needs to herd it’s feral-cat freshmen & give them a strict set of talking points on sensitive issues like abortion, that allow the pro-life position to be properly articulated without saying stupid stuff about rape.

  • Dave_A

    The catastrophe comes when an inexperienced politician endorses the right position with the entirely wrong words…

    The ‘right’ words are something like:

    ‘I oppose exceptions for rape, because they punish an innocent child for the sins of an abjectly evil father’.

    It explains the same no-abortions-no-exceptions position, but without saying something that any-idiot should know would be twisted by the media into ‘Rape is God’s plan’ (even though that is not what was said)….

  • http://www.TerriersOfTheRight.blogspot.com Flagstaff

    I wrote in another comment:

    ‘The So-Called Unbiased Media are shilling for the Democrats whether they know it or not. It’s why even a minor slip of English usage becomes a major “gaffe” for Richard Mourdock or Todd Akin. Those are called “self-inflicted” wounds by even Jason Riley of the WSJ, yet in truth they were only turned into wounds by the incessant repetition of the “mistakes,” sans context, by the SCUM and even by the WSJ. Yet repeated lies from the mouths of O’Biden, even lies verified as such by the WaPo or NYT, are simply reported without any illumination by those same papers and the AP.’

  • APA Guy

    Remember, Flagstaff…they were wrong before 1980 as well. GOTV, GOTV, GOTV…we can’t lose if we do.

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