What is starting to happen, and which will accelerate over the next eight weeks, is businesses’ realization that Obamacare is inevitable, and we will now see more and more businesses shed jobs and reduce hours to part-time. Obamacare is going to have a huge negative impact on the economy, but President Hubris will never retreat on it. And his words about working with congress notwithstanding, there is no chance that he will back down from his promise to raise taxes. Deeper recession here we come.

[Kowalski] If the GOP were to do what I suggested, could they just all not vote? Does the bill pass if there is a unanimous vote, but less than half the House votes??

Hate to burst bubbles here but I am a fiscally conservative democrat. I supported Obama because frankly I deal in real numbers every day. I own two companies. One in healthcare technology and the other a medical billing service.
Our business has never been better we doubled our number of employees the past two years. Personally, my stock portfolio has tripled since 2008.
I am an old white guy (58) living in Orange County CA. Real estate took a hit here but prices gave come back here. Like many of you I vote my pocketbook. I am not interested in ideaology. Frankly I have prospered better under democrats. The Bush years were the worst. Just keeping it real.

Indeed, they have to stop playing nice and be blunt with the American people.

Pathetic but true. The next clue he’s focused like a laser on jobs and the economy is him leaving the country for Asia on 11/17 for a 4-day Asia trip. Yeah, he’s focused on the fiscal cliff and jobs alright!

This probably sums it up what he thinks about work….it’s hard and frustrating- poor baby:
This is on the front page of whitehouse.com…really don’t know what he means by “self-government” except he himself will govern as King….
“America has never been about what can be done for us. It’s about what can be
done by us, together, through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of
self-government. That’s the principle we were founded on.
— President
Barack Obama, November 7, 2012″

I don’t believe a word you’re saying. I also own a business in CA and the last 4 years have been miserable. Fortunately, I don’t have many employees so O-Care will not ream me, but friends of mine who have 50 FTE’s (if they can even figure out if they do have 50 depending on the ridiclulous algorithm’s used to determine FTE) are beginning to send out pink slips and/or cut back their worker’s hours. And this is happening everywhere. And the Bush years were the worst? Yeah, 5% GDP really sucks. 4% unemployment is appalling. 400 billion dollar deficits would never be eclipsed, right? Come on, troll, we’re not that stupid here. Take it to Huff Po.

Nope. Wrong. The people voted for the status quo and gridlock and it would be against the people’s mandate to do anything other than that. Republicans have to respect the will of the people who sent them to washington and hold firm to their positions.

“We pretended to stand in the way of increase spending and that partially cost us the election.”

No it didnt, if anything the opposite. Back in 2011 when this was going on, Obama was way down in the polls, he was going to lose … he came back with his politics of distraction, destroying Romney, Bain/47%, bogus ‘war on women’, and blaming Bush for everything.

And btw, dont say Boehner spent m.ore than Pelosi, that’s crazy. Under Pelosi, spending went up 30% in 4 years!!!

“The best way to defeat the progressives is to give them everything they
want. Nothing the propose will work and they won’t be able to blame us”

That is the most insane thing I’ve heard on Redstate ever, and yet more than one of you is saying it. Has the election caused people to forget the last 4 years and take stupid pills? In 2009-2010 the progressive got everything they wanted, and in 2011-2012 they got some more. Did that stop them from blaming Republicans?!?!?

Well, if your benchmark is communist California I can see where you might be confused.
I notice you didn’t answer the question about the future of our children, jerk. Why don’t you try that one next?

My head just exploded, sorry. You’re prob already banned but I should say that if Obama is fiscally conservative I am the Queen of England. I don’t know where to start, you weren’t even really addressing what I said anyway so I will just leave you with this, enjoy you’re supermajority liberal free for all in California and I will the one laughing when your whole state goes to hell.

Obama is a conservative to Californians. I got the same sentiment from my friend who lives on the upper west side of manhattan when I was visiting there and he told me Obamas problem was that he was too moderate. Go figure.

This is what people fall back on when they can’t defend policies. “We’ll I’m doing well”…okay that’s fine. If you want to vote based on your own particular circumstance the go ahead. But then to come on a site and say therefore everything is great is faulty logic. A lot of people are suffering. I am doing well personally but no thx to Obama. And I don’t enjoy expensive gas and expensive everything else either.

Too bad that wont happen. I promise the number one priority they will try to figure out in negotiations is how both sides can save face. That’s it. So a lot of funky accounting and temporary measures and out year promises, etc. etc… And some big number that will be the headline. Then they will move onto solving the next crisis they created.

Freedom to control my health care for starters. The ACA isn’t fully implemented so my freedom is currently waiting to get crushed by the weight of bureaucrats and IRS agents that will penalize me if I don’t have the right kind of healthcare.

Yep. I am pretty sure that the foul John Edwards was correct when he said there were two Americas. He just was incorrect in his definition of what each stood for.