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Changing The Conversation

Saxby Chambliss Joins Democrats

Recently, speaking to a television station in Macon, Georgia, Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) said, “I care more about my country than I do about a 20-year-old pledge.”  The Americans for Tax Reform pledge, by Grover Norquist, was signed by almost every Republican in Congress including Chambliss.  His reversal on supporting the pledge not to raise taxes shone the spotlight on Chambliss as the latest Republican to bend to the Democrats since Obama’s reelection.  Later on Fox News’ Hannity, Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) tried to explain his position in a spin so obvious it would make Jay Carney blush.  The Saxby Spin can be seen here.  Chambliss stated that he believes revenue can be created to combat the country’s debt by eliminating all tax credits and reductions.  Using the time-honored Democrat tactic of word play, Chambliss insisted that raising taxes and cutting tax breaks aren’t the same, even though (as Hannity pointed out) they achieve the same result of Americans paying more to the federal government in taxes.  In his original comments to the Macon television station, Chambliss also said, “We weren’t $17 trillion in debt 20 years ago when I signed that pledge. We’ve got to figure out the right way to get out of debt.”  In other words, when it’s crunch time Chambliss won’t stand behind his supposed values.

Interestingly, the tax code already provides caps for deductions.  Increasing the caps or eliminating tax deductions all together is not only the same as increasing taxes on the wealthy, but also would have devastating effects on charitable giving.  While the White House is currently trying to reassure the public that they know more about the finances of nonprofits than the charities do themselves, nonprofits across the country are (rightly) claiming otherwise.  In his post, Regarding Saxby Chambliss, Erick Erickson makes another point that Chambliss has somehow missed – revenue has steadily increased over Chambliss’ 17 years in Congress.  So finding more revenue clearly isn’t going to solve the debt issue facing America.  More interesting than the debate over whether or not to cap/eliminate tax deductions, is the fact that the Democrats, with help from “republicans” like Chambliss and Lindsey Graham, have managed once again to change the conversation from what really matters.

What about cutting spending?!  Democrats and Republicans in Washington seem unable to even approach the subject of cutting spending as a means of dealing with the debt crisis.  As Rush Limbaugh pointed out, why is the public still footing the bill for federal pensions?  Said Rush, “There is no reason for the taxpayers of this country to be experiencing the destruction they’re already experiencing and then be told they have to pay even more taxes so that federal employees’ pensions are protected and that federal employees wages are protected.”  Now we know Democrats won’t slash their own pensions, or those of anyone in a union, and they don’t believe in cutting spending.  Republicans, however, have no excuse for not doing everything in their power to reduce spending.  There is a bit of irony here when one considers how much they must spend trying to figure out why they’ve lost another Presidential election.  Washington can break the loss down to not wooing this or that group of voters as much as they want, but the reality is that all Americans are tired of the faux concern over the debt with no real solutions ever coming forth.  Clearly Republicans on the Hill do not remember November.

November 2010 to be exact.  The Tea Party they are loath to admit makes up a large percentage of their base began with one request to the representatives: Stop spending.  When Republicans couldn’t bear to make the hard choices to cut spending, Tea Partiers cut the Republicans.  Unfortunately, the job wasn’t done and some, like Chambliss, managed to make it through the apparent referendum of the 2010 primaries.  Unbeknownst at the time, Chambliss was among those unhappy with the unexpected rise of the Tea Party.

A couple of years ago a mutual friend from Macon went up to see Saxby. There was a tea party rally going on. As our mutual friend sat in the office waiting for Saxby, his staff stood around ridiculing the tea party activists going by as simpletons, uneducated, hicks, and nuts. Chambliss himself has been overheard talking disparagingly of tea party activists in the Capitol Hill Club and elsewhere.

That little gem, shared by Erickson, may just be the final push that voters need to show Chambliss the door when his next primary comes around.  News of challengers to Chambliss has already begun, and the latest rumors indicate Karen Handel may be the one for the job.  Handel, who has already served as Secretary of State in Georgia, made national headlines earlier this year for her role at Susan G. Komen where she served as Vice President of Public Policy.  Komen, a long time financial supporter of Planned Parenthood, stood at odds with Handel when she championed the idea of the charity spending their money in places that are more in line with their life affirming goals than the nation’s largest abortion provider.  Handel knows how to make spending cuts and she knows where to cut them; Chambliss should be shaking in his boots.

While Chambliss and others have joined the Democrats in concocting ways to swindle more money from the American people, Conservatives and Tea Partiers will once again be joining together to remind them why they were sent to Washington.  You aren’t there to get cozy and make friends, you’re there to cut spending and save the country.  Now get to work.

 

 Cross-posted at FreedomWorks

COMMENTS

  • rightlane1111

    No…I know who should challenge Chambliss…Tom Price in the House. That being said…I agree with what the writer has said. Saying I dislike this man is an understatement. I have in the past, asked him to call me back. Folks…I might add…I am not a hick…I have owned three businesses in my lifetime…all of which made money and Mr. Saxby wouldn’t even know he was standing next to one of his most ardent enemies should we be in the same room.

    I am still trying to find…and I remember this..that he opposed drilling in the Gulf and sided with the Democrats. Mr. Chambliss will not call back the people that voted him in. He sends out Robo letters…blah…blah. He is never in his office to take calls and his staff is rude. So…last call, I asked him to call back…no answer but I received his “robo” e-mail. Guess what…I copied and pasted the ENTIRE E-MAIL on WaPo and within HOURS…dear Saxby called back. When his re-election comes…I will do everything I can to (1) get him out (2) not allow a Dem in and (3) encourage Tom Price to run for his seat.

  • rightlane1111

    About Handel…she is not “strong” enough to be in the Senate. It takes some stamina and her running for the governorship did not play well with me.

  • kelsonus

    TERM
    LIMITS

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Term limits are the establishment’s best friend.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    About Karen Handel: It says it all that Nathan Deal had to smear her, you know. She rubs the right people the wrong way, the same way Nikki Haley does.

  • Crabbinator

    The only reason we are in debt is because of two wars that were put on the national credit card and the Bush tax cuts. Get rid of the tax cuts, get out of Afghanistan and cut the ridiculous amount we spend on defense and we’ll be A-OK. It’s pretty easy to figure out.

  • streiff

    wow, that’s pretty dumb.

  • streiff

    we have term limits. They are called “elections.”

  • grumpyKoz

    Article 1: Section 6:
    “The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States.”

    How does Compensation get perverted into:
    Pensions, health care, and free rides?

  • streiff

    you don’t think all that is compensation? Free rides are technically perquisites, not compensation.

  • satchman3

    How do term limits help the establishment? Should we let Obama run for his third term?

  • streiff

    who is more independent of lobbyists, consultants, and professional staff? A long serving legislator? Or someone who can’t serve more than a few years in office?

  • Marcus_Traianus

    I’ve seen this movie before.

    Congressman or Senator does something that “Tea Parties” or “Conservatives” don’t like.

    “Conservatives” or “Tea Partiers” (largely from out of the state in question or supplying most of the funds) primary out an incumbent who is most-likely a shoe-in and replace them with a candidate who is weak, and unlikely to ultimately win the seat (Handel? Be serious…). Democrats win.

    It’s a losing strategy and obvious recipe for failure. Folks need to work with the candidates most likely to win and push them to serve the peoples interest.

  • gmat

    “…revenue has steadily increased over Chambliss’ 17 years in Congress.”

    In terms of constant dollars, revenue steadily increased over Chambliss’ first 5 years in Congress, until 2000.

    After that there were 2 recessions during which real revenues declined. In the last 11 years, there were 3 years in which real revenues exceeded 2000 levels, 8 years in which they didn’t, and the average real revenue for those 11 years was 8% below 2000 levels.

    http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/revenue_chart_1995_2011USk_13s1li011mbn_F0f

    I believe there’s a place for increasing revenues in the debt conversation, but I don’t think raising taxes is the way to do that, especially not right now. There’s evidence we are in yet another recession, which started mid-year

    http://www.businesscycle.com/ecri-news-events/news-details/economic-cycle-research-us-recession-start

    Raising taxes will further dampen economic activity, paradoxically lowering revenues, and increasing the deficit.

  • satchman3

    I agree with you in principle – I think the electorate should have the responsibility of choosing the best person for the job and making the guy who has the job now ineligible doesn’t make sense.

    However in practice I believe that we need term limits to avoid entrenchment of power. As legislators stay in congress they increase in seniority, power, and in their ability to hand out favors to their constituents which makes them unfairly difficult to unseat.

  • rabun1016

    As Cheney would say, big time.

  • rabun1016

    I would support Price. Asked Saxby on Saturday about his confidence in Republican Senate leadership, and got the blather about “my good friend Mitch”.

    I worked as a volunteer for the guy, made phone calls for him, but he clearly is content going down with the ship, with McConnell as the captain. I am looking for someone who has some articulate fight in them. Saxby has all the bromides that appeal to the long time Rep volunteers, but for someone with a national presence, he is weak and seemingly content to be that way. Really wish Erick would have taken him on.

  • electconstitutionalists

    I am currently working to build up support for a Paul Broun run now.
    He is one of maybe 3, true dedicated Constitutionalists in Congress.

    It appears he is already planning a run though, see POLITICO article: “Chambliss and Graham under fire”
    Tom Price is a good man, but not on the level of Broun. He is also gaining positions in leadership and it would be good to keep him in the House. Handel is a good lady but she needs to stay out of it.

  • rightlane1111

    I’ve got an idea…let’s put a leash on Michelle’s vacations and the amount of $$ they spend. I know that $4 million WITH A “m” won’t do much for the deficit…but it is the principle. We are about to go into another recession if not depression … and they are spending that much on a vacation. That’s a slap in the face..He’ll probably make some policy speech in Hawaii and that way we’ll wind up paying for it.

  • rightlane1111

    Broun is my representative and I love him…I mean this guy’s voting record is nearly if not “perfect”. Streiff…go look it up…talk about adhering to the Constitution. Another thing I like about Broun is this…he calls his people with online town hall meetings once a month. He wants their feedback. He is always about the people’s business…more than I can say about Chambliss…of who I have said plenty already.

    I say Price because he has spoken out more concerning Constitutional values/issues. I would love to see “Dr”…Broun do the same.

  • Bill S

    Thanks, Barack. Too bad you’re full of (manure).

  • electconstitutionalists

    Price had been my Congressman for years until they recently switched me to Gingrey. But I really consider Congressman Broun to be heads and shoulders above just about everybody. I think along with Congressmen Ron Paul and Justin Amash, (regardless of what may think of the afformentioned’s foreign policy), Paul Broun is the most consistent defender of the Constitution. My favorite voting index is that done by the John Birch Society, and even though they aren’t perfect, their index does an outstanding job rating people on Constitutional issues. This past session of Congress, Broun had a 92% rating to Price’s 75%. FreedomWorks has Broun ahead of Price 98% to 91%. I disagree about Price emphasizing the Constitution more, do you follow Broun on facebook and check out his youtube channel? Again, Price is very good, but I think Broun is on a Mike Lee-Jim DeMint-Rand Paul level while Price would be more of a Pat Toomey type.

  • electconstitutionalists

    Only if voluntary-say all the conservatives gave up their seats and the RINOs didn’t.

  • greyeagle

    If he votes to raise taxes, pretty soon he can monitor taxes from his house, of course those taxes would be his on.

  • electconstitutionalists

    One other thing about Broun, he is one of those unique figures who can strongly appeal to both social conservatives and libertarians. And I consider myself a conservative libertarian with strong social values. For example, he is both strong on civil liberties and religious freedom. He is against our current monetary policy and is strongly prolife. I think both the Christian coalition and Paulites and their strong grassroots would get behind him more strongly than Price, who not to be rude is kind of bland and seems to target the generic Republican. But many of the generic Republicans will go for Chambliss so we need a broader base, ie reigniting the Tea Party with the two groups I mentioned. They were the grassroots of the Tea Party. It is also important to have as strong of a contrast as possible in order to get some outside spending interested in supporting the challenger. Make it worth the money.

  • geraldgeorge

    Actually, Crabbinator has a point, whether your ideology allows you to see it or not is up to you. Imagine:

    Your friend from middle school whom you haven’t had anything to do with for last 30 years asks you to help him fund and seriously renovate his house in the desert, hundreds of miles away from where you live and work. You agree to it, and agree to at least 10+ years of funding and your own blood and sweat to help build the damn thing. At the same time, your largest source of income, your incredibly successful blog on the internet, suffers. You used to put up to 3 thorough posts a day, which garnered serious money, but you started only doing about a post a day, sometimes missing even that, with a lack of effort. Needless to say, you are now only making 50-60 percent of what you used to make. This is all to help fund and build your distant friend’s house in the desert.

    And then, another friend calls you up, asking for the exact some favor. And you agree. Again. So now, your already stressed bank account goes into the red because you are putting out more and more money and time for your two friend’s houses in the desert while you are making far less money than you had before you got the first call.

    It never made sense to cut taxes and run the credit card on two wars without a plan to pay for them. It never makes sense to spend vastly more than you bring in, while at the same time consciously and purposefully lowering your own income. I know you wish for President GWB again, Streiff, but the fact of the matter is, he was a terrible fiscal conservative. We lost blood and treasure over what? A less stable Middle East? Does that make sense to you?

  • Jack_Savage

    Please name one war we saved up for before we declared it.

    Idiots.

    And by the way, what the hell are you talking about?

  • Jack_Savage

    No, the reason we are in debt right now is because Franklin Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson wrote checks that we are having to cash.

    Here’s a simple question that should prove your point, if you have the sack to research it – did federal revenues go up or down after the Bush tax cuts?

    Waiting….

  • geraldgeorge

    This is what I’m talking about. From reliably conservative, nonsense-free sources:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/matt-miller-after-sept-11-shared-sacrifice-did-not-extend-to-taxes/2012/09/10/bb2bb660-fbaa-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCg_jCpWuAXU

  • geraldgeorge

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CBO_-_Revenues_and_Outlays_as_percent_GDP.png

    That was hard.

    Confirmed what I already knew to be true, that revenues, in comparison to Clinton, Bush 41, and Reagan were all lower. They climbed for a bit, but never recovered to what they were before Bush. There is no way to make logic of what he did. He was no true fiscal conservative.

  • Bill S

    You know, acting like a douchebag is an immediate way to get me to check to see if someone is a retread. And totally unsurprisingly…you are! Bye, idiot.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Hint: California got really worse, really fast, after we enacted term limits.

    Hint 2: Morons and establishment hacks are a dime a dozen. Principled politicians are harder to replace when termed out.

  • GregInFla

    I hear Allen West may consider moving back to his childhood home of Atlanta…. Okay, it was wishful hearing.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Oh, you mean like Dole, McCain, and Romney? Their White House tenures were so good for the country, weren’t they???

  • davesinsanantonio

    If that incumbent is the kind of person who is independent of those kinds of people in the first place. But, if he heads for Washington with a desire to hook up with them, then he will never be independent of them. And, the only way to know is to look at their track record before they run for the D. C. office. Were they cozy with lobbyists and such while in local and state office? What kind of staff did they have then? A person with a conservative staff in lower office is more likely to stay conservative than someone with a different staff while in local office. “You are known by the company you keep.”

  • davesinsanantonio

    But, it is We the People who are in charge of that office. It is OUR seat!!! We need to educate the electorate about the principles that work, and the record of the candidates–even the incumbent ones. Correct things–policies, laws, regulations, don’t “just happen”. And, we may have to educate or re-educate the incumbent to that fact. We have to work to get the candidates who will understand that principle, and that begins with working to get the proper candidates. And, that starts with the precinct committees. And, it IS work. But, it is necessary work. Wishing is not a strategy, nor a workable policy. “Work will win when wishy-washy wishing won’t.” –Ben Franklin

  • davesinsanantonio

    We can agree or disagree at this point on one potential candidate or another. But, soon, and that is a non-specific term, we need to decide on one candidate and then concentrate on the win. What we have to stop doing is having two or more conservatives beat each other up and divide the vote so that the squishy candidate actually wins the nomination. Even if that squish wins the general election, not always a sure thing, we do not have a true conservative in that office. So, no more fight to the death, down to the wire, wars between two or more conservative candidates. We need to get their pledges to drop out early if they see the other(s) have a better track to win the nomination, and that they will strongly support that other candidate. If they refuse to make that pledge early is should be taken as prima facia evidence that they are not fit for our support!!! And, if they make that pledge but fail to follow through on either half of it, that should preclude them ever getting our support for any future runs at any office! We have had way too many prima donna candidates who have cost us a conservative seat. It is time to put that nonsense to an end. And if we let them know what is required to get our support from now on, for every candidate for every office, we will have fewer squishes running or winning. And then we can get on with the job of taking back our country.

  • bgmacaw

    Sorry, but Broun would insure that a ‘reasonable’ Democrat (a Roy Barnes or Max Cleland type) would be elected. He can be easily painted by the media as another Todd Akin based on statements he’s already made. It’s very likely that he’ll open his big mouth and say something stupid about rape or whatever that would turn off a large segment of the electorate.

  • Jack_Savage

    Aha…HA HA…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    “Reliably conservative, nonsense-free sources…”
    That’s funny, I don’t care who you are.

    I am sorry, but I didn’t see anywhere in the articles where we were saving up for any wars before we declared them. Maybe you could point them out to me next time you change your user name and decide to show up again.

  • Jack_Savage

    BIG swing and a miss.

    Revenues as a percent of GDP divided by how many mules are now residing in Johnston County, NC plus Anthony Weiner’s text messages wasn’t the question, homey.

  • http://www.CoastalNCInsurance.com greg7564

    We need to get the TEA Party going again again start now. We need to get rid of all the Rino republicans like Chambliss and Boehner who do not support TEA Party ideologies. Call your Senators and Congressman and let them know what we want. Lets see what they do and then start early in getting good people that can win to run against them.

  • whitetop

    Keep the taxes as the target and no one notices that the real problem is spending. Not many of our elected SERVANTS want to address that issue. I have noticed in all forms of self government when people are in charge they love to spend other peoples money. I have seen it even in the home owners associations. Got a little money in the kitty and someone comes up with some way to spend it. I’m beginning to think everyone is a democrat at heart.

  • rightlane1111

    Please do not compare Representative Broun with Todd Akin. I have had extensive interaction with Broun and in NO WAY would he say something like Akin did…legitimate rape…and not define what he meant by the term. The man is also a medical doctor…so I doubt that his remarks would be akin to Akins

  • rightlane1111

    If I can stay away from Facebook…I do…because I am tracked and my information is given away. I do not trust that means of communication one bit. My interaction with Paul Broun has been in person or part of an telephone townhall. Additionally…I check his voting record…that is why I KNOW HE IS CONSERVATIVE.

  • electconstitutionalists

    He is pretty extreme, in a good way, but unless he does say something about rape it won’t be a problem.
    Also, keep in mind that Republicans should have a huge advantage in 2014.
    1-We would have suffered two more years of the Obama economy.
    2-They are not tied to Romney.