I’m concerned that the irony used in the title of this piece might mislead a few people, particularly people like me who scan headlines and sometimes do not read every article. If one were to do that with this article it would be very easy for them to miss the point completely, and with such an important point as this, it might be wise to re-title and re-post this article.

Dave, there are people like that out there, they just don’t want the media rectal examination. As soon as someone steps forward, the media begins the junta to destroy them. A person would have to be insane to want to run for office

I have been following this fiscal cliff BS and moves by the House Leadership closely. What do we do? Boehner, Cantor etal are saying “hey look at us Republicans look – look , we’re just like Obama only not as bad”. I see a growing democrat majority for ever. This is exactly how Massachusetts became the looney bin we are today. Sometimes I feel that I’m living in an alternative universe.

Boehner lost 40 seats in 2006 and more in 2008. It took s grasroots constitutional conservative movement, the tea prty to cross the country in buses, rally and yell at Townhalls over Obammacare, debt and growth of government. The tea party movement elected limited government conservatives in 2010, not John Boehner.
But those freshmen made a fatal mistake. The voted for the House caucus leader Boehner for Speaker 2011. ”

Tea party freshmen made it possible for Boehner and Coantor to take leadership of House. Boehner acted as if he owned the place, the People’s House I mean that had just seated a group of limited government reps to DC to clean house and govern with a perspective on ennumerated duties to reduce size and scope of spending.
Boehner lost seats in 2012 and may lose more 2014. if his wishy washy brand is what they sell. as a eason to vote Republican

He never respected and does not fear the voters who are the party base that gave him the majority to become Speakrr. I’d like to think his hobbled personal rule will fail. It will eventually but for the next two years Boehner and Obama will be sitting at same side of table fr too much of the time.
Wait, 2014 approaches.

Both of you are being silly. Anyone who reads Erick regularly would know he uses sarcasm and hyperbole in his titles quite often. If you don’t have the time to read an article, you certainly can’t judge its content from the title — and if you do, that’s on you.

It’s unfortunate that in the wake of an election where trying too hard to ‘me too’ our platform cost us the win, we’re going to double down on saying “ME TOO!” Boehner and the rest of the House GOP leadership needs to wake up and realize that the reason that Republicans don’t turn out is that they don’t like to vote for ‘Democrat Lite.’

If we want to turn this country around, we have to be bold. Boldly stated ideas, bold ideological positions, and bold congressional leadership. Draw a line in the sand and say, “No more!” Stake a position that increased taxes are a non-starter. Heck, let’s hoist the Democrats on their own petard, and push for implementation of the Simpson-Bowles plan. That sounds a little crazy, but Guy Benson makes an eloquent case for it here: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/11/30/simpson_bowles

Most important is the fact that it would be extremely hard for the other side to use their usual demonizations of the Republicans to lobby against it. More Democrats than Republicans voted for it in the first place, and if it was enacted, we’d get a bunch more spending cuts than we are likely to get any other way.

Additionally, we’d be offering up a huge compromise; one that the media couldn’t help but report on. That’s a big deal, and would further put the Democrats over a barrel. If they didn’t agree, and we went over the cliff, they’d be hard pressed to point the finger at our side and scream that our reticence caused the problem.

I know SImpson-Bowles wasn’t perfect, but judging from what we’re being offered now, it’s a vast improvement.

Nothing gets spent unless the House agrees to it.

That’s exactly why Boehner’s RINO army is going to fold and give Obama what he wants, because for them, spending money on their friends is the only reason they ran for office.

Lesson Learned from 2012: DONATE TO CANDIDATES, NOT PARTIES.

After the disaster that was Mitt Romney, and now we see these fan-dancers in the GOP Congressional Leadership, anyone who gives actual money to the French-Cuff Faction known as the GOP is a toady and an idiot. Nothing else.

In a sense, Boehner is more despicable than Obama: At least Obama is the real deal. He knows he’s out to fundamentally transform the nation into some sort of progressive utopia– such as it is. Boehner doesn’t know WHY he’s there, other than for raw power, and the perquisites which attend it.

And, of course, the really, really awful part about the hi-jinx of Boehner and the Boyz is that they will cave, and buckle, and sell out –morning, noon, and night– and Conservatism will STILL take it on the chin, as if they took some principled stand. What a nightmare these next two to four years will be…

I hope Boehner reads it and thinks about it.

Ericki have been preaching against these people since the 2010 elections and the first debacle of Boehner. As for Karl Rove I was against him before it was cool to be against him. As long as we allow these people to control the congress it might as well be all democratic. Why we continue to0 call these people Republicans is beyond me. I use to call these types RINO’s but in these later years i have come to realize they are Liberal Republicans. That is why they hate conservatives so much. because the Republican Party stood for conservatism for so long there are many people that have been lulled into continuing to believe that Republicans are conservatives. That is n’t the case any longer. What is the main difference in John Boehner and Nancy Pelosi? one isn’t as ugly as the other one. With John Boehner continuing to be the Speaker of the House he will lead the Republicans to defeat in 2014. Obama will continue to bagger Republicans and put them in a losing situation continuously until in 2014 the Democrats will take the House back. Right now with the Fiscal Cliff Obama wins no matter what happens and the Republicans will be to blame. Conservatives need to form their own quorum in the House and the Senate and stop allowing the Republicans to totally rule. Would this be easy to do/ NO but it could be done with people with guts. We are in desperate need of a conservative Party. we tried to move the Republicans back from center and it didn’t work so now we need to fight them head to head. If we don’t then this country will never be the Great America that it once was or could be again. I will have Risk my life in the Military for nothing and so many would have died for nothing.

People laughed at me in 2009 when i predicted the Presidential lost to Obama and now they laugh at me when i speak of the need for a new Party., We’ll see whose laughing in 2014 if things don’t change and fast.

The question is are there enough House Republicans with enough courage to vote against Boehner for Speaker? Those who support him again shpuld also be looked at with scrutiny.

Except this is neither sarcasm nor hyperbole. Erick is expressing thanks that the leopards in charge of the GOP caucus have “shown their spots.” There can be no doubt that the individuals in charge of the House GOP have betrayed the conservative cause, and because this is so clear from their actions, and because we have a much clearer picture of the task at hand, we can be thankful. That’s not sarcasm or hyperbole.

The time has come for those of us who hold to true principles of freedom as conservatives to understand that it is pretty well over. During the election process there were several hundred conservative churches banding together to pray that God would give us a second chance and allow us to have victory. He did not! As I stood in the ashes of defeat and pondered the outcome I realized that what happens here and now is not on our schedule. Many of you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, as do I, and if you believe the Bible at all, it is very clear where we are headed. We can angst all day about it. That will accomplish nothing. I have concluded that the only hope for mankind is the God/man and His ultimate return to this earth to establish His Kingdom. Of course there will be a 7 year time period (The Tribulation) where His followers are removed and the world is left to fend for itself. Oh my, then the Democrats, Liberal Republicans and the heathen in general will reap exactly what they have sowed. That, as what is soon to happen to America, will be nothing like they have planned. People will suddenly wake up, but it will be far too late. The day of reckoning will be upon them, and that without remedy. And our God will sit up in heaven and laugh at their calamity as spoken in Psalms 2. The only good news is for those of us who know Him personally as our Saviour, we shall not weep, we shall rejoice that we rest in His everlasting arms! As Jesus Christ said,”When these things begin to come to pass, LOOK UP for His coming draweth nigh!” I must admit, I go outside every morning and catch myself looking up.

Erick, I believe the ship has sailed. Conservatives must move past the notion of reviving the GOP as the party of Conservative principles and ideas. It is time to make them the irrelevant 3rd party and forge a new alliance with Conservative thinkers in a strong party movement. Re-name the Tea Party to remove the negative connotations and elect those who will actually stand up for the people. (i.e. Ted Cruz)

Hmm ya got a point there, buuddy, but hope springs eternal.LOL

With idiots like B, C & M Obama doesn’t need a majority. These people who are suppose to be the opposition will give Obama everything he wants just because they don’t want the New York Slimes or the Washington Post to say anything bad about them. One has to think Boehner spends too much time in the tanning salon and that has fried his brain.

and to anybody interested in replying to Ausonius comment –

How are things different and or the same today than in 1854 when Republican party formed. What conditions pushed Republicans to be the second big party and hold that ranking?
How can SUch a move out of Whigs into a new party make it today given tody’s conditions?
Only R and Ds win partisan elections.

Amnesty is the new power game in town. Cut a dea lwith the deviil and guess who wins?

House GOP in was not only cc in the 60′s but also the 70′s and right up until Newt’s Revolution in 1994. Ford-Michel-Boehner, no difference.

You have no idea how many people feel exactly like you do. We have a choice…the fight will be hard…but if we do not “change” the current Republican Party…then it is time they go the way of the Whigs. That will mean that ordinary people…not the power brokers…like Rove, etc. are going to have to give up time and get credible candidates and yes…even rename the party and get a platform that is published. We have two parties…Obama and Obama lite. Obama lite is in the majority and they don’t give a darn about the people. That means that their in-house enemies, the TPM, who put Boehner in charge have been stabbed in the back. If we dare to question…we are treated as if we were some illiterate populace that needs to be shown how.

Our problem really is…which Tea Party Movement is not connected with those mentioned in the article, i.e., Freedom Works, Crossroads, etc.

This is everyday people who are sick and tired of the Republicans. We can’t do anything about it…yet it is our money. We are held captive to Boehner’s gang just as sure as we are Obama’s policies. Many people have just given up. Many of them just stayed home in the 2012 election (low turnout). People don’t like their candidate chosen for them. People don’t like Rove on TV 24/7 once they have figured out he too is a Progressive. We have lost our ability to change the course. Our TPM put Boehner in charge and he has spit in their face. The TPM needs to be united under one platform and must not waiver. Only then will the people MAYBE be willing to put time, effort and money into their organizations. At present, they feel beat and with no hope of any change. So…Mr. Boehner, Mr. Canter and Mr. McCarthy have been working for Obama all this time…and we never saw it. No wonder Jim DeMint in retiring.

Excellent post! In a world where an alarming percentage of our educators, journalists, and political leaders have been leading us astray – knowingly or naively – for decades, we are facing an electorate that has less and less of a real understanding of history, economics, or even human nature. I’ve given up on the Republican leadership, who it now appears would rather again go on record supporting a stupid compromise with that would result in more of the same with Republican caucus votes than just saying enough is enough, let this newest step in the wrong direction pass with Democrat votes only. Time for the shotgun (a figure of speech, all you “gotcha” people) approach. Primary everybody. From the Speaker on down. The more of them we target (again figurative), the greater our final numbers in Congress. And while doing so, no more money to the Party, just the individual candidates.

What about American Majority Action? I am ready to start contributing again, I just don’t know where yet. I’ll be checking into Madison Project as well.

Hence, the fruits of conservative in the primary, republican in the general. At least that notion is in its death throes now, although I suspect that it is too late to save our way of life. We’ve tolerated the rot with an (R) after the name because they had to be better than the other guy.

Conservatives have completely lost control of the party to moderates and career politicians. Worse, men like Boehner do far more to hinder conservatism than anything Obama/Pelosi/Reed could ever do. I don’t have a Bible in front of me to quote exactly, but Jesus said to be concerned with the beam in our own eye, rather than the spec of dust in our neighbor’s. That’s where we’ve failed. We’ve promoted men like Boehner and McConnell to the degree that now they control the entire party apparatus, and conservatives are outcasts. We’ve focused all of our guns on democrats instead of the republicans who’ve worked behind the scenes to thwart us at every turn. The GOP has kept a leash on us for a quarter century, and now we’re adrift, and I don’t see a unifying message emerging.

Ultimately, the leftist agenda is only thriving because we’ve allowed it to. It is our fault. We voted for GWB, even as he pushed a big government agenda that would’ve made Bill Clinton blush. We keep re-electing men like McConnell and Boehner. We supported men like Romney and Dole and McCain, knowing that they believed more in making government work than they did in liberty.

I don’t know if the hour is too late or not. I fear it is. And we conservatives have no one to blame but ourselves. God help us.

Unfortunately for your argument, it won’t come down that way. For the prime example of why not, take a look at Paul Krugman over the past four-to-five years. No matter how much the administration’s/Democrats plan has failed, he argues 1) it’s not enough stimulus; and 2) the Republicans have no legitimate alternative.

That’s the problem when you deal with totalitarians; they know they are right as a matter of faith and nothing will dissuade them that they’re wrong; it’s just that their plans hasn’t been implemented correctly, and failing that, that enemies of the state are sabotaging their rule (c.f. Chavez, Stalin).

Look at California: the worse their economy gets, the more the Democratic majority increases because Republicans are “anti-sex”. Faith all the way.

The only way to deal with this is to explain your position/alternatives and stand firm in opposition. But that takes courage and articulateness – and above all commitment. It’s far easier to share the loot, as we are seeing.

you are only surviving this because of your posting history. This is at least the second time you’ve advocated third party. If you do it again you are gone. Voting third party is the way to guarantee Democrat domination of government. So let me reiterate. Next third party call gets a ban. Whine about this and get a ban.

A proven track record of acting/voting/speaking true conservative principles

No hidden “Gotcha’s” in the background that the Dims will exploit

In the media’s telling of things, “true conservative principles” are “Gotchas”. Welfare reform is painted as oppression of single moms and racist oppression of minorities, education reform is the oppression of teachers (not the unions) and poor defenseless children, enforcement of immigration laws is the racist oppression of minorities, social security reform is the oppression of grandma, etc.

Liberals don’t view things through the lens of reality – they don’t see labor, money, property or anything else being a limited resource that can be taxed or stolen to the breaking point. More money can simply be printed (to hell with devaluation), the plebes can be forced to work more and property rights exist solely at the whim of the state because the elites know how to make the best use of all property.

A liberal’s lens is power and everything they view and report in the media is interpreted through that lens. That’s why everything is about oppressors and victims and “empowerment.” In their view, anything that stands in the way of their unbridled power is evil. Limited government is evil because it is a restraint on their power. Fiscal restraint is evil because it restrains their ability to give out goodies, which in turn buys votes and therefore, power. Reigning in taxes reduces their power because the power to tax (stealing at gunpoint) is the power to destroy.

It’s not a man’s sins that the media finds repugnant. It’s his virtues.

I believed in “conservative in the primary and GOP in the general”. I even advised my congregation that this was the wise way to approach stewarding our votes. But this election and its aftermath, the purge of conservatives by the liberal Republicans, has convinced me that it is a fool’s errand. I’m not sure what the alternative is at this moment. But I know this: we should make sure that every liberal, sell-out Republican is defeated for re-election. If we primary them and they still win, we vote third party. Because there is no real difference between a Boehner and a Democrat, other than the rhetoric.

The Republican Party is not now an ethical political entity. It is run by stealth liberals. John Boehner, Eric Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy must be ousted if conservatism is going to survive therein. If there is no championing of conservative causes within the GOP, then a third party will be started– and will grow as the worn out GOP dies behind it…

Mr. Erickson is absolutely correct. To put it mildly, fiscal conservatives are repeatedly disrespected and ignored by the GOP. He’s is also right on the money about trying to get more conservatives into the body. But what about in between elections?

In between elections, the GOP leadership comfortably ignores conservatives because they can. They know that the conservatives have no where else to go, and unfortunately they are correct. Unfortunately, the “conservatives in the primary and the GOP in the general” is really conservatives in the primary and the GOP in the general and in everything else the GOP wants to do between primaries. The GOP’s day of reckoning only comes on primary day, and the rest of the time they act as if they are unchecked on the right, and they seem to be correct in their assessment.

So what is to be done between elections? I am somewhat at a loss. Obviously a third party is not the answer. But something must be done between elections to try to check the GOP from the fiscal right, otherwise the GOP will continue to keep the conservatives tucked away in a pocket where conservatives out when needed, but otherwise ignored. Since conservatives are already being ignored, why not turn the tables a bit and ignore the traditional leadership and start trying to exert real leadership in the realm of public opinion? The GOP leadership does not want to work with conservatives, but what is to stop conservatives from trying to resolve the problems despite the GOP leadership?

For example why not come up with a third proposal in addition to the Geitner and Boehner proposals? Only make it a proposal which avoids the trappings of the Boehner plan, without Trojan Horse tax increases disguised as vague and unidentified “loophole” reform. Why not call out the phony spending “cuts” and propose exactly and explicitly what spending needs to be cut? Lead by example, and by so doing point out just how embarrassing, wishy-washy, and dishonest the other plans are. And do so openly, publicly, and loudly.

Sure the particular plan will not carry the day, but it will take the fight to the GOP and educate the public. Congressional conservatives should demonstrate that, contrary to what the GOP leadership claims, there is an option other than capitulation. The goal would be to extend the primary season by always making the GOP answer to real conservative values. Even between elections.

These suggestions seems pretty obvious and aren’t even novel, but I just don’t much of it happening now.

OK, for transparency purposes I will admit that I think we should agree to the marginal tax rate increase for the top 2% (because that gets the item off the table and it is the one that is a losing proposition (tax rates will rise when we go off the cliff and a bill is introduced in January to peel back those increase for the bottom 98%. Everyone will vote for that bill). What I’m just not able to figure out from the comments is how anyone actually intends to fundamentally change the dynamics. It is right now just a fact that the vast majority of Americans support the notion of increasing the marginal tax rate for the top 2% (67% by the last survey). We can all rail against the idea that we have a “spending problem and not a revenue problem” but the vast, vast majority of America simply disagrees with this notion. Obama got more than 3 million votes than Romney and the only states Romney got that McCain didn’t were Indiana and NC (and we all have to admit Obama getting IN in 2008 was an anomoly). Remember, no republican candidate for President since 1988 has gotten more than 50.8% of the popular vote or more than 286 electoral college votes. That’s over 24 yers and is incredibly stunning if you think about it. One could argue that it is because the candidates weren’t conservative enough. However, the “more conservative” candidates couldn’t even get out of the Republican primary this year so even the totality of the Republican party is unwilling to vote for a more conservative candidate to run against the Dem candidate. So, maybe 20% of the population wants a more conservative approach but, numerically, that isn’t a winning hand. We can fool ourselves that more people believe in a very limited government but that is, in fact, a fool’s errand as it really, really is a minority viewpoint. Would love to see how folks would actually change the dynamics as, numerically, most of the views expressed do not come close to representing 50% of the population (hate to be a kill joy but I’m just stating facts).

Dittos CF – I thought the same thing after reading the title. My first reaction was “what have those guys done NOW?!?!” because I knew it couldn’t be anything good.

Wow! I was never aware of that rule!
One question, Streiff, since Jim Demint, Sarah Palin, and soon many others are pointing out that GOP leadership has abandoned conservative principles completely, how will we be able to advocate for those principles within the GOP? I’m a Life Member of the National Committee since the ’80s, but it certainly is no cause for pride any longer.
The GOP leadership has set our cause asea in a leaking boat without oars, sails, or a rudder. This is scandalous!

have Jim DeMint or Sarah Palin left the GOP to form a third party? If not, I think you have your answer.

Those who support GOP insiders like Boehner find themselves reliably supported by that same powerful contingent of GOP insiders as well. Those who threw conservatism and conservative voters overboard are not going to abandon their career comfort zone that easily. That’s what happens from the top down when punishment from the bottom up (grass roots) is measured as negligible, versus the rewards for compliance to a liberal-ized agenda. In politics, as with other social/cultural adaptations, any collective behavioral change comes from collective behavior mod.

As I’ve had to say too many times here, the day we will find enough House Republicans with the courage to vote against establishment players will be the day that we have enough authentically conservative Republicans who are willing to put principles before position. To maintain permanent support for representatives willing to make sacrifices in their lives and political careers. we all probably will have to be ready to make a few more personal sacrifices in our own. Organize and work to make it clear that first-principle candidates are ~more~ likely to be re-hired by their citizen employers than those who repeatedly compromise the values that made them originally win our approval, and their congressional seats.

Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy did not sell out their constituents.

The Republicans in their respective districts gave each of them a greater number of votes than any of their rivals in the primary elections.

They truly marvel at how unorganized and disunited the conservatives are in their respective districts and how, despite their liberal squishiness, not enough conservatives go to the polls in their respective primary races to defeat them.

Elections matter. Especially primary elections.

Their constituents are now getting exactly what they voted for.

Thank you.
CW
http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

tell me your answer. Because right now I think you are trolling because two of the three comments you have made have been virtually the same… and what I think counts.

So it’s up to you. Either propose how to deal with it or just say you think we shouldn’t bother with being conservatives any more and leave.

we’re not about discussing everything. We live in the the real world. The fact is that there is no third party out there that has the vaguest possibility of winning anything, if there were we’d see scads of Constitution Party people elected to state and local office.

If we are going to have an influence it has to be electing candidates that have our views and striving to gain as much control of the GOP apparatus as possible.

Messy? Yes. But there are no magic wands or fairy dust in the real world.

Just checked your link. The blog hasn’t been posted on in 18 months…

Erick you should have posted the video of Boehner at CPAC in 2012 saying that the dissension it the party is good and needed.

While I disagree with your stance on increasing taxes, I do understand the logic behind that idea. The problem is that in the interim, while hoping that the electorate figures this out, there will be many people across the country who will be severely harmed by any increase in the tax schedules. Further to the point, I would rather see improvements in the economy viewed as a win for the people and businesses who have succeeded – in spite of the economy – rather than as a validation for the administration’s policies.

I do agree with this statement: “The left is not arguing with reason and logic they are arguing with emotion. Logical arguments will not convince them, so we are fighting a losing battle.”

That in my mind is the main reason that the left continues to amass wins in the general. The GOP leadership needs to get passionate about what they believe in. ‘Wet noodle’, ‘bland’, ‘dispirited’, ‘lame’, ‘out of touch’… I could continue but those descriptions seem to fit the current leadership in Congress. To explain, we can usually tell when a progressive is posting here because their ‘vitriol’ is normally a dead giveaway. But that same ‘vitriol’ is what is used use to stir up the masses to their side. I will not waste time in spelling out the parallels of this approach with its use by despotic regimes throughout history who used the same ‘mass frenzy’ to elicit assistance from their populace to do incredible evil. For it’s ‘principled arguments’ coming from our side but ‘vitriol’ when it’s coming from their candidate.

Either way, in this day and age of a 24/7/365 news cycle, we can only hope to win by extolling the power of our vision, the honesty of our principles and the passion we have in sharing those with others. Each and every day. In each and every stump speech. In all communications with the public. Either we get fired up to sell what we know are the best overall solutions to the problems we face or we go silently into the night.

Unless and until we can field candidates who also have that same ‘fire in the belly’ – not just to win – but to defend their stated vision and do so with a clear and compelling emotionally driven argument and reasoning *with* the logic to back up their ‘feelings’, we will need to be content with wandering in the wilderness.

How about open-revolt? Refuse to caucus with the Republicans! Start your own party! Refuse to go along with National Suicide! Show that you have spine, backbone, & character – even if weepy, let’s golf, always-tan Boehner doesn’t have any.

parsoned,
Glad you visited the site.

Getting inside the Party where each of us conservatives lives matters.

Example. Got a call today from a PC in a nearby legislative district. He was wondering whether conservatives or moderates were in the majority now in our county (Maricopa County, AZ, where 70% of registered AZ voters live). I told him I didn’t know but that at my LD leadership elections last week we had a good turnout and all of the conservative candidates for the officer slots won and almost all of the state committeeman slots were filled by conservatives. Why? Because we have a strong majority of conservatives in the PC ranks. Many of the new PCs are from the tea parties.

He told me that he believed in some of the other LDs the moderates were winning the officer elections.

So on Jan. 12 we’ll have our county committee reorganization meeting. All elected PCs in the county can attend and elect the new officers. If a majority that show up are conservatives, we’ll have new conservative officers. Maricopa County has just under 700,000 registered Republican voters, about 6,400 PC slots, and about 52% of those PC slots filled. Clearly there are an addtional 3,200 very conservative Republicans among those 697,000 or so Republicans who are not “in” the Party as PCs. IF we conservatives could entice 3,200 of them, or even 1,000 of them, to become PCs, then we conservatives would enjoy a very strong majority within the Party and we’d easily elect conservative officers at our county committee meeting and then, a few weeks later, elect conservatives to our state chairman slot and the other officer slots (because the elected PCs in each district elect the state committeemen — there’s one state committeeman slot for every three elected PC slots in a district).

Bottom line: fill up all the vacant PC slots across America and a lot of our problems go away.

For example, if every vacant PC slot in America was, right now, magically filled with a conservative, then at every local Republican committee meeting, and at every county committee meeting, and at every state committee meeting the members could pass a resolution condemning the actions of Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy. The PCs “are” the Party.

We just don’t have enough conservatives united and organized for real political action inside our Party.

I hope this helps.

Thank you.
CW

Retribution??!
Amash had it coming, of course, even voting against CCB.
Erick has undermined the party leadership at every step of the way, thank God, calling them out for betraying Conservatives, but now he has assumed the role of the Inquisition. There cannot be a “time for choosing”, the Republian party remains one party, and House Conservatives must work reasonably with the leadership, with the expectation that hope that either the leadership gets some sense, or movement Conservatives actually get down to work defeating establishmentarians without selecting candidates like Todd Akin and Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell.
Erik hardly helps the cause when he sits here, mounted on his perch, calling for the maintenane of some imagined permanent split in the House Republican Conference. Disagreement among different factions does not make it necessary for them to essentially become different parties. If Conservatives are appointed to Committees while others are removed, the automatic labelling as “traitors” is downright stupid, and rather petty and, indeed, disloyal.

It is appalling that many Conservatives are opposing efforts to negotiate even as they continue to insist on avoiding the fiscal cliff whih contains even more tax hikes. It is a fantasy that Conservative “purity” can be defended either way. Either you let Speaker Boehner negotiate, or you damn well shut up when he hurtle over the cliff with full tax hikes.
Of course, Obama sees that as an option, while I also favor letting it burn, but you just seem to view it as some ordinary political budget scuffle.
I certainly recognize why Boehner would want to reduce tax expenditures to simplify the code, and agree to bring in some revenues to avoid even larger tax increases, even if I favor those tax increases as part of letting it burn. But, in any case, Barak Obama has signalled his commitment to rate increases, so I think we can focus on defeating our common opponent.
And then hold them accountable in 2014, rather than shrieking at them for two years and then losing any influence you have along the way, because they, after all, took the effort to run and work, you only took the effort to comment in between.

Boehner raised $20 million last election cycle. $20 MILLION. He couldn’t care less what conservatives think.

True colors emerging, commonsense’? Those were pretty low blow comments about Erick. You don’t seem to get how treacherous the RINO’s are and you are more than ready to agree with them an awful lot.

Better not forget what this site is about. And it isn’t going along to get along with the establishment who is ready to betray and dis us at every turn. Erick is hardly disloyal — much less stupid.

Whoa! Hold on there just a second streiff. Did I just read your last post correctly? Who exactly do you think you are? Ban this…pound sand streiff.

Boehner is a Statist first, party man second. He is at the level where party doesn’t matter, but the liberal cause does.
Face facts. This is nothing new or unexpected.

In the end, though, at least he had the good sense to try and keep his job after putting up a fight. We can’t afford two more years of Spencer Bacchus embarrassing us.

Let. It. Burn. But don’t blame Congressional Republicans for compromising if you aren’t willing to risk that yourself.

perdido, you have hit the nail on the head. Once a congresscritter is elected, there is virtually nothing “we the people” can do to control them until their next primary election. If they believe their constituents aren’t organized and united sufficiently to mount a primary challenge (take a look at the margins by which Boehner, Cantor and McCarthy won in their respective primaries) there’s virtually no control over them at all.

Until we conservatives get organize and united where we each live for real political action, we’ll never elect decent people to represent us.

The best way each of us can get organized and united is by helping to steer conservatives into real political action where it really matters: inside the Party itself in the local Republican committees.

Go here to learn more: http://precinctproject.us

Thank you.

CW

I like Mark Levin’s idea that the GOP simply propose to cut rates for the ’99%’ and leave the Bush levels in place for the ’1%’. Most people will be okay with that. Then let the Dems refuse that, as they probably will. Then we at least have a chance of rightly blaming them for the ensuing troubles, and being able to take credit for trying to help average folks.

CW, I *am* a precinct committe chair in #19 here in NC. WE know how to do it in NC, we’re one of the reddest states in the union now: 1st Gov in 24 years, 1st House and Senate in over 120 years, and we even just won the Lt. Gov. Our successes stop at our borders though. Everyone is so engaged here. I don’t understand what’s going on everywhere else. We have the same liberals to battle here.

You have a great opportunity in NC, with unemployment at 9.6%, to set an example for the rest of the country about how putting the GOP in charge translates into getting people back to work at good-paying, full time jobs.

AMEN. Higher federal taxes are not going to help us. It would be real leadership to lower the state income tax.

I would like to take this opportunity to invite everyone in the death spiral state of California to come to Florida. We have no state income tax and we have many programs to assist all you “greedy” successful entrepreneurs in your relocation to the Sunshine state. We have oranges, palm trees, tennis and golf, sunshine and a Republican governor and legislature. If you are interested in coming back to earth feel free to contact me and I will get in contact with the corporate friendly government planners. We even have this concept in Florida called the “right to work.” For those of you from union controlled governments we welcome your successful business and welcome the opportunity to bring something that unions have not been able to deliver for over 20 years, MORE JOBS.

Your dream home waits for you. Oh yeah and on that front, the cost of comparable homes in Florida are about 50% less expensive than in California. We’re waiting. Why are you?