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So Which One is it, Mr. Boehner?

More than a week since several conservative House members were kicked off their committees, they have finally received a personal note from Boehner.

During last week’s conference meeting, Boehner explicitly told members that there was a purge based upon voting records, that he was a part of it, and that other members who deviate from the big government echo chamber would be next.  Here is what The Hill reported last Thursday:

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) warned his conference on Wednesday that leaders are “watching” how the rank-and-file vote to determine committee assignments, according to sources in the closed-door meeting.

Boehner addressed the firestorm over the removal of four lawmakers from plum committee assignments at the weekly GOP conference meeting.

According to Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kan.), one of the lawmakers denied a spot on his current committee in the next Congress, Boehner did note “that we [leadership] have punished four members, he claimed that it had nothing to do with their conservative ideology, but had to do with their voting patterns.”

Also removed from committee spots were Reps. Justin Amash (R-Mich.), Walter Jones (R-N.C.) and David Schweikert (Ariz.).

Huelskamp added that Boehner warned GOP lawmakers that “there may be more folks that will be targeted … ‘we’re watching all your votes.”

Mr. Amash was told that he had scored a zero on the leadership scorecard that is being kept secret.

Yesterday, Boehner sent the following letter to the deposed members in response to their inquiry about the scorecard.

Anyone reading this letter would come away with the clear impression that Boehner had nothing to do with any purge and that there was no scorecard.  However, that doesn’t square with what he told the conference last week.

Why is Boehner scared to own up to the purge in public?  Why won’t he release the scorecard?  Is it because his scorecard looks like a progressive one?

COMMENTS

  • grumpyKoz

    ‘we’re watching all your votes.’

    THAT is what Mr. Obama has been quoted as saying during his ‘transparent’ closed door meetings.
    It seems that Mr. Boehner and Mr. Obama have gone to the same school of tyrant ethics team building

  • taxed2death

    Mr. Weepy is covering his @ss. He is part of the Ruling Class that is ruining the GOP. Remember, Dictators make the rules.

  • rerun19

    As a Tea Party conservative, all I can say to John Boehner is watch MY vote in the 2014 mid-terms. Or the lack of my vote, to be more precise. I refuse to be used for my vote to get Establishment types into leadership roles.

    Immediately after Election Day, the GOP Establishment treats Tea Party conservatives like a spent condom on prom night.

  • teardownthiswall

    This is not just a problem with Boehner. There are a ton of establishment Republicans who only care about getting reelected and preserving their identities as Members of the House.

  • libertynugget

    Sounds like he needs to spend more time in his tanning bed and less time leading the house.

  • earlgrey

    I wasn’t that upset, but am now. Boehner is a loser. At least Obama wins. He needs to be purged. If not than what does the GOP offer for tea partiers. If the country is going to sink I am not voting GOP anymore.

  • rightlane1111

    I want to know what happens to some of my posts. Does RedState censor them or does Disqus? We had a column, written by EE giving us the names and numbers of the people that were purged. We were asked to call. OK…I called..know what..my post is gone. No foul language…the factual information. So, I will try again. John Boehner’s office, after they answered, I said I am calling about…and I was switched to their message machine. I called Canter’s office…and I gave them a piece of my mind. I then called Westmoreland’s office (GA rep) because that is my state and she said that she was a Conservative and that all of them had no choice…because it was a secret ballot behind closed doors. I asked her…because I am her employer if I had a right to know how she voted with MY MONEY…still, that the irrelevant…the fact was it was a secret ballot. I would ask RS to tell me…is this post not allowed or is Disqus not censoring the posts. This time I saved it in Word. If there is a problem…would someone please tell me.

    Are we supposed to be happy with all the Conservatives being purged? When they tell me it is a secret ballot…am I supposed to want to know…in that she represents my state. Boehner…needs to go.

  • rightlane1111

    Oh…and if the comment is not in reply to another poster…why are they not in the order that they are posted?

  • Bill S

    No one is censoring anything. I have no idea where your comments have gone. The only things we delete are blatantly left-wing troll posts from people we’ve banned. That’s it. Period.

  • rightlane1111

    OK…I am sorry…I found it…and I would have thought that someone had responded…but no. However, please look at the previous topics and they are not in order….so if I want to keep up with a topic and it is not in reply to a poster…it might wind up 50 posts down the line and I just posted it one minute ago.

  • rightlane1111

    I was told it was a secret ballot by Representative Westmoreland (GA) and nobody knew how anyone voted. Is there a difference between the old guard Republicans and Obama? Really…I mean that. Look at Jim DeMint…he’s gone and who can blame him…he has to work with McConnell.

    This has gotten a little ridiculous. The House passes a bill and Harry Reid puts it up on the shelf…no vote. He wants to change filibuster rules without any oversight..no input from Republicans and nobody says ANYTHING. So…say that Boehner does finally pass something through the House…what good is the darn thing if Reid refuses to act on it. Heck…he hasn’t passed a budged in 3-4 years.

  • kipling

    There will be no vote on Boehner and the House leadership. I just spoke with Representative Blake Farenthold’s (TX-27) office. He said they have already decided on the House leadership and there will be no vote in January. I told him he was mistaken but he is insistent that the leadership is settled. I hope he is wrong.

  • Finrod

    You can change the ordering with the Discussion tab at the top. Options are Best, Newest, Oldest, with Best (i.e. highest ranked) as the default.

  • Bill S

    Yeah, that’s the nature of this garbage commenting system. It’s unfortunate that that’s what we have, but for now, that’s it. You can adjust the sort sequence for comments by putting them in “newest” or “oldest” order – click the Discussion link at the top of each thread. I think it sticks once you’ve set it on one thread/diary.

  • ihateliberals

    It is becoming more evident that the Republican party has gone full circle now. I think it is time to repeat 1854 and abandon the Party Elite and form a new conserevative party they did it in 1854 and won where no one thought they could. we can do it again if Conservatives will stick together. we have to stop accepting these fake conserevatives like Boehner, McCain, karl Rove etc etc.

  • Christine

    I have noticed when I post a reply and then refresh the page, sometimes my comment shows up and sometimes it doesn’t. It’s THERE, but for some reason I’m not always able to see it.

    Sometimes if I change the post order (newest vs oldest etc) it shows up. The other day I sat here and “refreshed” the page in various ways (close browser & return, go to another website & return, refresh browser, etc). Again, sometimes it was there and sometimes it wasn’t.

    I’d say it’s Disqus.

  • Bill S

    Part of the problem is page caching also. We get so many hits that it’s necessary to cache content and minimize server hits. That means sometimes you don’t see what the pages and the comments look like up-to-the-second. I’m not really sure how that affects the Disqus content, but I believe the little Recent Comment box is impacted.

  • cheesycon

    hi bill there is something wrong with my diary also.. i posted a diary yesterday but now it says that it is password protected. Can you look into it for me and help? thanks :)

  • streiff

    It was a one sentence diary that said nothing and scrolled another diary off the front page. I unpublished it and locked it. Hope that helps.

  • davesinsanantonio

    If you don’t vote GOP anymore, what you are doing is piling rocks atop our sinking country. The GOP is our ONLY hope!!! So, stop running away from the problem and solve it. You can solve it by finding true conservatives, encouraging them to run, backing them with time and money AND votes, and then holding their feet to the fire when they are tempted to stray, and forgiving them if their straying is minimal or minor. You cannot solve the problem if you withhold your vote or spitefully give it to those who are trying to destroy America.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Stop with the third party nonsense!!!! 1854 was a different time and a different political world. It WAS possible then, it is not possible NOW, because the rules, state by state, for getting a third party on the ballot are designed to prevent third party success. You CANNOT win by going third party. Just take a look at the Libertarians as an example. They have been a third party for a long time, and their message resonates with a lot of people, but they get nowhere in elections. And, that is by design. So, going third party may caress your ego, but it will guarantee that the lefties will win every time. We are only two years removed from huge conservative, and GOP, victories, and we still control many statehouses and governors mansions. Do you think you will get all of those GOP officeholders to swing over to your third party??? Hardly!!! So, hold your nose and work to swing the GOP back to the right where it belongs, and stop with the third party destruction of America.

    This is NOT about YOU!!! It is about saving America!!! Throwing away your vote, and your political clout to spite the GOP is slitting your own throat to spite your stomach. So, get over your bruised ego and do what is right for America. You will thank yourself in the long run.

  • davesinsanantonio

    You have a quote, but do not attribute it. Is it from the aforementioned Col. Jessup? If not, who said it?

  • commonsenseobserver

    Eh, secret ballots are not a problem. Culture is.

  • daniel22

    That is exactly the response that Boehner likes! As long as he knows that he is the only game in town he will keep on playing. Your response sounds too much like enabling bad behavior no matter how much you hate the behavior. It is time to change what we have been doing.

  • cheesycon

    thank you. i will try harder to actually contribute more meaningful diaries from now one. i’m sorry :(

  • daniel22

    As long as we allow Boehner to do this without serious repercussions then he will continue. Threatening to put his feet to the fire is hollow at best. He figures that there is no other choice and way too many agree with him on that. Nobody will stand up to him as they do not want to divide the GOP and the money it controls.
    This last election did prove one thing and that is that people are more than willing to stay home when they feel that there really is no difference. It will get only worse if the game is played his way.

  • earlgrey

    I’ve been doing all of that for 4 years. I don’t plan to vote Democrat, but there are other things I could be doing with my time and money. I’ve supported candidates financially nationwide, phone calling, door-to-door campaigning. I didn’t do all of that so the guys I helped elect get to give the national another shove into economic collapse.

  • tngal

    The quote was said by the charactor Col. Jessup, played by the actor Jack Nicholson in the movie, which was based on a play written by Aaron Sorkin. So I guess the quote could be based on the charactor, the actor of the writer of the line.
    http://www.quotes.net/mquote/31534

  • whitetop

    Joe Straus is doing a Boehner imitation in Texas and he appears to be effective. My state rep doesn’t bother to respond to emails. Hope other red states aren’t undergoing a communist conversion in the legislature.

  • http://www.plumbbobblog.com Plumb_Bob

    GOP suffers another massive defeat in the 2014 elections as millions of conservative Republicans stay home and refuse to vote.

    They seem to want this. It’s the unavoidable result of the course they are taking.

  • rightlane1111

    CS….I know that. Why do these people have to lie. If I had an employee who voted my money away…he’d be gone. This woman calls herself a Conservative. I think one of the tenets of a Conservative should be honesty…now that would be one heck of a start for that culture in DC. Watch their lips…of read my lips…they are lying.

  • n2sooners

    There is an option to voting third party. You could vote democrat. I know, it sounds scary, but would we be better off next year with Boehner a speaker, or with a freshman democrat representing Ohio for the next two years? We should target certain squishy republicans in leadership positions and if we can’t beat them in the primary, we replace them with democrats in the general. After all, what’s the difference between having a democrat and a republican in leadership who votes like a democrat? The democrat only has one vote while the republican in leadership influences the votes of a most of the members of his party.

    Establishing a viable third party takes enough votes to win an election. Replacing a squishy republican with a democrat only takes enough votes to sway an election.

  • Bill S

    Let me remind everyone in this thread that Redstate is for promoting conservative and GOP values and candidates. Third-party promotion is explicitly prohibited. Any pimping for the idea of voting for a 3rd party OR for Democrats will potentially result in loss of posting privileges. We’re here to win, not to whine and throw hissy fits at the polling place. Conservative in the primary, GOP in the general.

    http://www.redstate.com/posting-rules

  • n2sooners

    Thanks for the information, I never realized this was a party above principles site.

  • Bill S

    When it comes to voting in the general election, we don’t do tantrums.

  • n2sooners

    I don’t see taking out a guy who is taking out conservatives as a tantrum. Boehner is a failure and should be removed from office by any means necessary, and as long as conservatives keep supporting big government republicans they will continue to be treated as doormats. So, why should Boehner answer your questions since you’re gonna vote for him (or support him) anyway?

  • Bill S

    That’s a problem to solve in the primary. Voting for the Democrat is counterproductive. And stupid.

  • n2sooners

    I disagree. A single democrat freshman wouldn’t be able to remove conservative republicans from committee positions and influence the votes of a majority of house republicans. I see voting for big government republicans (especially in leadership positions) as counterproductive and stupid. But don’t worry, I won’t be bringing it up here anymore.