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EDITOR OF REDSTATE

The Evangelists’ Failure

Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Somewhere in America this week, Protestant Christ followers will donate money to fund missionaries. The offering for the Lottie Moon fund will be collected. Mission to the World will get a check. The Foreign Mission Board will be funded and prayed for. The Salvation Army bell will be rung.

Around the nation, Evangelical America will, throughout the year, hear tales of their missions, missionaries, and their money at work drawing people in foreign lands and occasional parts of the United States to Christ. They will hear of using their money to rebuild churches and homes after disaster, to care for the homeless, and to fund retirements of past preachers of the Truth. They will get lists of where their missionaries are, some with the word “Sensitive” in place of the name of China or Syria or Cuba. They will pray.

On Monday morning, many in Evangelical America will get up and take their kids off to a church affiliated school, having chosen to remove their children from declining, failing, and secular government schools. Others will wake and teach their children themselves, sometimes combining with other parents to homeschool.

On Sunday morning, many curious new comers will probably go into a church not called a church lest it deter them, where they will experience a Christ who may or may not be as they seek the Christ who is and was when they were young and more open to receiving him The conversion of the flock is not as difficult when done at an early age when the mind is still open to the miraculous. “Truly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it.”

What Evangelical America will most likely not do this week or this Sunday or any week or any Sunday is write a check to send a stranger’s child in a government school to a Christian school. This is one of the greatest failure of the evangelical church in the United States of America.

Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.

Long before the Protestant church in America took up the cause of life, their Catholic brothers and sisters were on the front lines of the abortion fight championing children still to be born. In fact, much of the Protestant church was indifferent to or supportive of abortion rights. But as mainline denominations began to crumble under the weight of their increasing embrace of the world and evangelicals increasingly became the voice of American protestantism, the Protestant church began to take up the cause of life with Catholics.

Catholics have also led the way in America in sectarian educational missionary work. It has not always been successful and in some cases has become unrecognizable from secular institutions. But much of the work the Catholic Church has done to fund schools that the poor can go to has been successful. Often, the Catholic Church has done more with less than the surrounding public schools and turned out better and brighter students drawn from the same demographics as the surrounding secular schools.

By contrast, much of what amounts to Christian education among evangelicals in America is educational separation from the secular world. With increasing intolerance of and hostility toward Christian values, Christians have opted out of government schools. In doing so, though, they have not been great missionaries to the outside world.

Sure, many Christian schools have scholarships that let poor children in who otherwise could not afford go to the school. Often Christian schools will lure athletes away from government schools with scholarships. But the number of evangelical schools in America designed as tools of missionary outreach to a secular, fallen world are few and far between.

Christians in America will fund missionaries to China or Appalachia, but in their own backyard are poor children in broken homes whose only way out is through education. The government fails them. Christians should be starting schools tomorrow across America — a shared faith in evangelical interdenominational communities pooling shared resources — to try to pull the future away from a precipice far more disastrous than the so called fiscal cliff.

The decay and decline of the American family has rotted society. We can see in many schools that even children from the rot, decline, and decay can achieve and break free from the cycle of poverty if given the chance. But government and teachers unions and many other factors collide to prevent a way out and a way up for so many.

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.

The missionary dollars of Evangelical America are needed as much in this nation for teaching children increasingly removed from presuppositional Judeo-Christian values so many once took for granted. We should stop ceding the ground to secular failure. Or we should stop lamenting the creeping secularism in a nation whose children are taught in morally relative schools with “winter” parties instead of “Christmas” parties.

Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

COMMENTS

  • cheesycon

    Tour. De. Force.

  • http://www.incredibleco.ning.com Incredible

    Amen. My laments exactly.

    I had a diary length response ready, but your post stands up without any input from me. Thank you for this.

  • kipling

    Agree 100%. I am part of such an effort in our local area but we need to do more. To rebuild our country we must go back to the ancient paths. (Jeremiah 6:16)

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    Excellent point. And I’d add that scholarships for non-government schools would be an excellent funding target for conservative philanthropists regardless of their religion. By its very existence, a government schools sends the message that people should rely on the government to provide the really important stuff. If we’re going to remain a free society, we have to stop relying on socialist schools.

  • izzyt84

    What do you mean, “we must go back to the ancient paths?” Sounds like a reference to paganism. I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds strange.

  • drfredc

    Ok, nice point. However, I’d go a bit more to the core of the problem — way too much Christian energy has been spent trying to control other people’s lady parts and way too little on teaching the value of not coveting your neighbor’s wealth (as in it’s OK to tax your neighbor to pay for your goodies).

    Last I checked, there’s no 11th commandment that lets folks pick and choose which commandments they can follow or ignore…

    Our nation’s moral fiscal and moral bankruptcy is mostly about how way too many good folks (Christian and otherwise) have fallen for the devilish premise that it’s OK to covet and steal your neighbor’s (and kids future) wealth to pay for some government handouts. Just how’s that working out for everyone? Just asking…

  • http://boldcolor.blogspot.com/ Paula Bolyard

    So we should just pick the commandments that you like? What if I like mine better (“Thou shall not kill,” for example).

  • commonsenseobserver

    ???!!!

    Perhaps it means we should sing hymns to Elbereth Gilthoniel under the stars? Don’t be silly. ^^

  • davesinsanantonio

    I think many are forgetting that We the People created, and are supposed to keep an eye on, the government. If we don’t like “government” schools, then we are obligated to fix them. So, even if you send your kids, or the neighbor’s kids, to private schools, you still have an obligation to keep after the public schools to do things right. Putting one’s head in the sand, or running away, does not solve any problem.

  • jerseygalnny

    As for all those churches whose pastors and priests declined to speak out on social issues that were before the electorate, so as to avoid jeopardizing non profit status, I ask this: Does one truly find favor with the Lord when you clearly place the almighty dollar ahead of Him?

  • streiff

    that is the libertarian way. Ignore murder and adultery so long as they get to focus on money.

  • rickbillies

    As the proud product of the Catholic education system (16 years), I applaud you for championing the value of church-sponsored schools in America. My parents were middle class people who were able to send every one of their five children to Catholic elementary school at no cost other than their weekly contribution. Four out of five of us went to Catholic high schools and two of use received our college degrees from Catholic institutions, Manhattan College and Mount Saint Vincent’s. All of us are the people that we are today because of our Catholic education supported by two terrific parents.

  • christinakfjeffrey

    Wonderful message – here are a couple of helpful resources for those who want to go forth and make disciples of all, especially the little children:

    In the mid to late 90′s, a former Army Chaplain and early home school advocate, E. Ray Moore, from South Carolina, started a nonprofit organization to encourage Churches to advocate for Christian education since it is hard to provide enough Christian formation in the few hours left to parents and pastors once the schools have taken most of a child’s time. Also, increasingly, the public schools have failed as the third leg of the once sturdy foundation for children’s education – family, church, school. When what the school teaches is at odds with what the family and church teach, and when children spend more time hearing the secular message than the Christian family message, it is time to make a change.

    At that time, it was common for Pastors’ wives to teach in the local public schools. Not only did it give visibility to their husband’s churches, but it provided much needed health insurance and other benefits. Ray’s mission was not exclusively to Baptists, as he himself was not of that denomination, but in SC, that’s where most evangelicals are located. His organization has grown and now has state coordinators throughout the country who help Church who help with this ministry. I do not know if he is specifically encouraging the pooling of resources to start missionary efforts, but it is a wonderful idea and one I will share with him. Anyone considering starting a Christian school, whether in their home, church or as a missionary effort, should visit his website at www.ExodusMandate.org. Another good resource is the Hoffman Center at Emerald Mountain Christian School in Wetumpka, Al. Here a wonderful, gracious Bobbie Ames provides assistance to those who want a Christian curriculum oriented toward republican (small “r”) principles and learning traditional American values and history. www.emeraldmountainchristianschool.org.

  • http://www.executiveprotectionteam.com k1200pilot

    Great post. In my book, “Excellence Killed the Church, How Mediocrity is Destroying America” I autopsy this topic in detail. The underlying cause of this is an ideology of mediocrity that has been championed by those who are not our friends for very unfriendly purposes. It is a bit of a controversial book but you may want to take a gander at it.

  • Finrod

    That bozo is no libertarian.

  • proud2befree

    I don’t think you know what libertarianism is. Murder is probably the most egregious violation of the social contract.

  • daniel22

    I would agree with you but since gerrymandering has lead to inherited seats in elected bodies true representation has not been allowed. This has lead to School boards, Regents, and other bodies governing schools at all levels to be overbalanced by career educators and union hacks that do not want to upset the apple cart nor tick off the union benefactors. States like here in Nevada need to scrap the entire oversight structure to start over again. It is that entrenched.
    Given the probability of charitable deductions being eliminated from the tax bill and poor business climate money to fund parochial schools will be hard to find. Even harder will be parents that are actively involved with their children and their education.

  • eddiethegeek

    The Catholics led the way on the abortion issue. It’s high time that Evangelicals realize that the Catholics have it right on contraception as well. Contraception, abortion, pornography, same-sex so-called marriage – they are all peas in the same pod of the “culture of death” of which Pope John Paul II spoke so eloquently.
    Erick you are correct – the way forward is to reform the education of the young. For right now the young are being steeped in the godless, hyper-sexualized secular culture. But the other way forward is for all Christians to embrace a culture of life. Life in Christ, in the world but not of the world.

  • sliverlining

    I do not consider myself a religious person per se. I was brought up Protestant and that’s that. Bringing up a child with some core values is never a bad thing whether or not the parents push the doctrines for life or not. In my case they did not, but I must say that when confused or needing to fall back on principle I was taught to observe The Golden Rule.
    If nothing else people should be given that one thing as a gift toward building some character as a child.
    What this has to do with missions, funding, politics, enemies, etc. can then fall on an individual’s conscience because they theoretically have one built in from childhood.

    I recently talked to a young man who hadn’t even heard of The Golden Rule. Poor selfish little creep . . . I’d bet his parents were real winners , too.

  • jimmyg

    My wife and myself are Catholic School graduates. All 5 of my children are Catholic School graduates. I sent my children to Catholic schools because I wanted them to be instilled with Catholic values.
    I am somewhat confused about your comment that evangelical churches “are not concerned with the secularism in the public schools”. By definition a public school is secular, and a school associated with a church or religious order is not. It is a choice that parents make. It seems that you may be advocating for the teaching of religion in public schools,once again, by definition, is not going to happen.
    Parents who send their children to a religious affiliated school as opposed to a public school, may be unwilling or unable to make the substantial financial commitment necessary in obtaining a religious based education. At the same time you cannot complain that a public school is secular, because you have a choice, make the financial commitment to send your child to a religious based school or send the child to the public secular school.

  • macjedi

    I find this article bizarre and confused. My wife and I came under CONVICTION in the early 1990′s to not send our four children to government schools. On the surface, picture Jocelyn Elders pushing abortion and condoms for all as one reason that helped us understand that VALUES are critical, and I had no control or say on values in the government run machine. I elected to REJECT the world (and its devils) and its values as the training ground for my children. And it only cost me a lot of money to give my kids a world-class classical Christian education in the K-12 setting. Now my children are equipped to go to the battle ground of college and life. Two of the four are in that battle now, and both are serving in Young Life, reaching into the lives of less fortunate children stuck in government schools.
    So, failure is in the government run schools. Surely there is a failure on the part of ‘the Protestant’ Church to fight for Truth and Justice. The lack of discernment in Truth is at the heart of the Failure of America’s consumption of Progressive Poison. That failure is going to be more costly in many dimensions.

  • celador2

    We could have avoided a civiil war too had we not fought over private property and just allowed Taney’s 1854 decision to be settled law, like Roe.

    The US was a bad fit from the start but not over abortion but owning the body and labor and life of others. The founding document 1788 does not mention ‘slavery’ , chattel slavery or involuntary servitude by name. it would take a civil war and amending ther constituion to put an end to the econmic system that would not go away and threatened to expand west. Slavery was incompatible with Christianity too. Christianity values life and sees life as GOD”s creation. Looking the other way was unexceptable.

    Christians took up arms to fight, as Christians almost entirely evangelicals on both sides of the Atlantic, led the battle to end slavery with a passion. Christians, even some evangelicals, also made the point the Bible justified slavery and hey, private property was sacred. The anti slavery mission is similar to the free aborion on demand claim today. There were always far to many who looked the other way on slavery and supported that vile institution while singling songs of Liberty btw. Just like today.

    Justice Taney, who nullified Kansas-Nebraska and ruled against the humanity and citizenship of Dred Scot went crazy in his expansive scope leaving no out in the first use of ‘substantive due process’–national application—1854. States that had freed their residents under the constitution were no longer allowed that right and those freed could not be freed so were denied precious citizenship status either in bondage or emancipated by a state. The Fugitive Slave Act (national) was legal.

    Had the US, a self proclaimed self governing republic of moral people, ignored this economic insitutition that disgraced and demeaned humanity there might have been no war. Lincoln agreed to so many compromises in Fugitive Slave Act in efforts to hold south Many wondered at what point would we fight.for freedom LIncoln also wanted to stop the expansionof slavery but Jeff Davis did not agree. Money and power were possible in expansion with lower costs. But, the prohibition on importing slaves made it impossible to really expand. Davis wanted free trade and his own ports to import without meddlin’. Slavery where it exisited was not enough for Davis.

    For all we know abortionists will grow but that does not mean Chritians should give up the fight whatever private property case is made in defense of murder of innocents for convenience. we have seen it before.

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  • 4suramcan

    You’ve hit on the truth, doc. witness the negative hits. The ten commandments were given as guidelines for living, as the entire bible is. That’s why they are trying to get rid of them in public. Just doing a few and leaving out others is a big problem in todays secular society. (whatever feels good, do it) with the “me” generations. The “I want all I can get and I want it now” way of life conflicts with the bible teaching of, we are to be content with that which we have.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Oh, I disagree with you and think your thinking is perpetuating the problem as you are buying into the false notion of “separation of church and state” — an abused and misused phrase that is no where to be found in the Constitution.

    If you study the history of our public schools, they were started by the churches just like the hospitals were and the notion that they were “secular” is nonsense. One of the main reasons they wanted to educate our children was so they could read the Bible and incorporate spirituality and morality into their lives. You are just wrong when you feed into the notion that there should be no spiritual or moral teaching in the public schools or that the Bible is not a legitimate source to teach from. That’s liberal speak — and you have bought into it hook, line and sinker.

    Public school children have just as much right to have a spiritual component (not to mention the historical relevance and truths it contains) included in their curriculum as private school children do. Many taxpayers are Christians and have a right to be represented in the public schools. Think outside your religious box a little and you might find better answers for everyone. :) )

  • thethinkingamericanist

    This is assuming that Roman Catholic are truly Christians. see here: http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp I serve Jesus, not some Babylonian Religion.

  • celador2

    They come in a bundle and the One violated most in my opinion is First, “Thou shall not put any GOD before me”

    We make ourselves Center not Him or an object we must own or serve. And when politics for its own sake and power is our first concern we pay not homage to HIS order of the universe.

    I see this around me but know it to be true in my case. I always speak as a sinner and from experience.

  • 4suramcan

    Yes!! Confusion is the devils biggest weapon. Confusing people is whats behind the lack of discernment of the truth. And, you wouldn’t have to spend your money on an education if the right thing was done in the first place. You know, the way they did it back when people believed in God. By taking the word of God out of the schools they opened up the avenues of “other” doctrines. And now today, we have total confusion in all but a few Bible teaching churches, the remnant.

  • redneckthinker

    >>>With increasing intolerance of and hostility toward Christian values, Christians have opted out of government schools. In doing so, though, they have not been great missionaries to the outside world.

    I wouldn’t stuff my kids in a Government school and call it missions- not for all the tea in China. Public schools are indocrination centers designed to assault Christian values. I know too many families who tried that and lost their children to the world. “Shocking: we abdicated our duty to train our children and turned the kids over to the godless government for 20,000 hours and they graduated little secularists and hedonists.”

    Erick, I agree we need to be mission-minded here in the states. I like the idea of sending kids from non-Christian homes to Christian–where they are truly Christian–schools. Dumping my kids into the toxic Government schools as an outreach to those trapped therein is foolish and utterly out of the question.

  • jimmyg

    I am not going to get into a constitutional argument with you as to separation of church and state, that ship has sailed long ago.
    What your comment revealed is that you are advocating for is religious instruction in public schools. It is settled law that public schools are not going to teach religion.
    At the same time you have a choice, and if your preference is to have your child taught in a public school, that child is not going to be taught religion in that school. If you want a religious based education, you can obtain that with a financial commitment on your part.
    My oldest is an MD at a Catholic Hospital, received her BA, Masters, MD, did her residency and a fellowship at a Catholic hospital, and currently is employed at a Catholic hospital. She made that decision, knowing that she could have received the same education, at a public education, less the religious values taught at these Catholic institutions.
    Your assertion that religion should be taught at public schools is impractical in that,even if possible, endless arguments would ensue regarding what and whose view of religion should be taught etc..
    You want your cake and eat it too. Not going to happen. You have a choice, send your child to a religious based school, that comports with your values, or send your child to a public school.

  • ehspicer

    If the mandates of the Affordable Care Act are not overturned, there will be a whole lot fewer Catholic Schools. Our pastor has informed us that he will be shutting down our K-12 school. I’m waiting for these children to all be turned out onto the public schools. I’m sure the Teacher Union will demand more in funding to accommodate the rise in population (never mind that they already are compensated for those children through our tax dollars.) Wasn’t it Dewey who developed the Public School system with the specific intent of getting the children away from the influence of their parents? Perhaps going back to home-schooling (or some enhanced one room school houses with instructors paid by the parents) would allow parents to choose the content of the lessons and the character of their instructors. Things they be a changin. And everything old is new again. To your point, however, if there were a competitive scholarship fund (and some need based) for sending children to Christian schools, that might be a place where Christians could put their money where their hearts are.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Surely we must also acknowledge that if there is no popular demand for a Christian, or other religious, component in public education, then it is difficult for religious schools, themselves being competitors, to bother themselves with the state of religious teaching in public schools.

    There is no “right” to have a spiritual component in public education, and will not be if taxpayers and parents do not advocate actively for it. Otherwise, it is ridiculous to blame public schools, or churches and governments, for not incorporating this.

    Not to mention that I wouldn’t want public school teachers interpreting Holy Writ.

  • westcoastpatriette

    You would do well to refrain from discussing issues on which you are completely ignorant. I have nothing further to say with respect to your uninformed ideas about faith in the public schools at this point.

    And your blatant promotion of and bragging about Catholic institutions is quite distasteful, too. Are you afraid you might have some competition to deal with or are you possessed of the false notion that Catholics are the only true Christians around? Your biases are showing and preventing you from hearing the truth.

  • kuzbro

    I agree, I rather tell the government to get screwed,…my morals are worth more than their tax deduction. Christians that allow themselves to be silenced are fear losing a few bucks more than God.

  • westcoastpatriette

    There is not only a right to have a spiritual component in public education, many parents have done that very thing — advocated for it — and the Bible is included in the public school curriculum. Educate yourself a little more before you speak, commonsense’. Then your answers might not be wrong so often. :) )

  • 4suramcan

    There are so many heads in the sand, we’re running out of it. We the people are now, we the sheeple.

  • ohiohistorian

    I cannot claim to have found favor with the Lord with ANYTHING going on in this society. Public education has been one of the “grand experiments” done to try to give all that equal opportunity that the Declaration of Independence talks about so eloquently. However, we have allowed the devil to pervert education to mean little or nothing to our society, while costing a great deal. Tell me that our Federal “investment” in education in our cities is even worth making, when there is an 8th grade reading proficiency rate of 7 percent in Detroit as an example? I know that here in Columbus, OH our graduation rate is about 77 percent, but who knows if they have forged that like the administration has attendance records.

    Conservatives are complicit in the dehumanization and the degradation of our society by continuing to allow miserable failures like Arne Duncan and his whole group of liberals to define our schools. The same can be said of welfare, etc. It is time to start over in this nation. It could cost us more taxes, but the taxes should be collected and spent at the local level, not sent from Washington, DC with strings attached.

  • streiff

    don’t think so.

  • streiff

    unfortunately, I do know what libertarians are and because of that I have as little to do with them as possible.

  • streiff

    based on how poorly history and English are taught, I certainly don’t want my kid learning theology in a public school.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Here’s a link if you are interested in becoming better informed on religion in the public schools: http://www2.kenyon.edu/Depts/Religion/Fac/Adler/Politics/Bible-in-Schools.htm

  • westcoastpatriette

    That was an unnecessary low blow. Many Catholics are true Christians and many Protestants are CINOs — Christian in name only. God looks at each person’s heart and could not care less what denomination they belong to when it comes to knowing who are his. Jesus said, “My sheep know my voice,” not “My Catholics or my Baptists.”

  • 4suramcan

    Hear hear. Wasn’t the catholic “religion” started by the roman government to quell the growth of Christianity. They saw that despite the persecution(read “the trail of blood”) of Christians, Christianity was growing so fast that they could not control it. So they started their own version of religion, in the third century I think. Everyone should read your link above.

  • Bill S

    your username is pretty far off the mark…

  • kipling

    Although I do not want the public school teachers interpreting Scripture, we kid ourselves if we think there is not already a “spiritual” component to even secular education. Atheism, pluralism, environmentalism, and even “neutrality” are religious positions. We cannot separate our view of God from our worldview.

  • mike57

    You have no right to judge Catholic Christians any more than you have to judge Protestant Christians. A life commitment to Jesus Christ is not dependant on the name on the Church where you worship.

  • streiff

    we can only hope the schools do as poor a job at that as they do at most other tasks.

  • kipling

    Perhaps it would be helpful if you put the phrase in the proper context of the verse I provide. In doning so, you would see that it is not a reference to paganism but rather a call by Jeremiah to return to the Lord of Israel.

  • celador2

    The point about Cathpoic schools in the US is one that can not be denied.
    Catholic schools in the US provide very, very sound education in basic subjects and how one conducts oneself with self resepect in school and outside school. The disciplie and religious backdrop have made Catholic schools renown for their education successes.

    A NYC Cardinal said “Give me the bottom five percent”: and we will educate them all. He did. Cathloic schools have success with education and character building that public schools have failed to maintain. Its not money btw.

  • streiff

    I don’t have a problem with people disagreeing with Catholicism. I understand the disagreements. I started life as a Baptist and became an adult convert to Catholicism based on my personal study and reflection. What I strongly object to is anyone quoting a mental defective like Jack Chick in a way that is neither ironic nor sarcastic. That betrays a room temperature intellect.

  • kipling

    Amen, to that.

  • wumingren

    The Obama administration is talking about ending tax deductions for charitable giving. I look forward to the day that the government gag on the pulpit is removed. Churches all across America will once again speak with fire to denounce the scoundrels that pretend to represent us.

  • kipling

    Remember the parable of the wheat and the tares. Even in the church there will be those who look like wheat but not produce the fruit.

  • streiff

    he’s probably still scratching his butt and wondering what the words/numbers in the parentheses thingies mean.

  • westcoastpatriette

    That’s exactly right. I may disagree with the Catholic church’s hierarchical organization and teaching but I am of the belief that anyone who gets their hands on a bible is capable of becoming a true child of God in spite of what they may be being taught from the pulpit. The Holy Spirit is the one who is ultimately in charge of the church — not any man or church structure. I have yet to find any denomination who has all of the answers and believe we will be studying scripture throughout eternity. Then Jesus himself will set us all straight on a few things!!!

  • westcoastpatriette

    Agree, streiff. Conservatives will go on giving while libs will stomp their feet, whine and put away their wallets.

  • lightnin38

    If you replaced every mention of “Christian”, with “American”, you’d find it much easier to find the social acceptance you so desperately crave.

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    The only way to fix them is to make them non-government schools. Even if they have wonderful teachers and curriculum they still instill the notion that something as important as education has to be done by the government rather than the free market.

    And they seldom will be very good except in comparison to other public schools because government isn’t very good at running things, shouldn’t do many things that schools need to do, and needs to accommodate people with a wide range of values.

  • plh

    This is why Erick’s post is so spot on (not from the Commonwealth, but “on the money” just didn’t seem right in this context). It would be hard to evaluate our present situation objectively and not conclude that abandoning the spiritual component in people’s lives has led to us becoming weaker as a society and nation. Fixing the problem would require action on many fronts, including “faith based” schools that cater to the general public as described in the post, while pushing for creative ways to finance the costs involved on the state and local level (such as Florida Pride, through which Florida corporations could get tax breaks for contributing to a means tested scholarship fund for students to attend non-public schools), and ceaselessly driving home the point that the per student cost of non-public education is lower than that of public education.

  • Sir Aaron

    I think most of the comments here miss the point. We, that is the Evangelical church, has been focused almost entirely on evangelizing foreign countries to the neglect of our own cities even our very neighbors. The Protestants who founded this country were big on public education, in fact, an argument could be made that Protestants invented the idea. Their view was that education was necessary so that every person could read and understand the Bible and that such understanding was crucial to society as a whole. Protestants have rightfully retreated from public education but have done little to provide education for non-Christian youths whereby they may learn Biblical values. And thus, our efforts to put American society back on the narrow path, if it were, are substantially more difficult.

    So Erick makes the point that we need to start looking at education in our backyard as a primary mission field. if we aren’t going to send our kids to public schools then we need to look at providing religious education to non-Christians.
    Erick doesn’t mention a couple things. First, there is a looming battle over education that few Christians have forseen. Every totalitarian regime has controlled education to the point of forbidding religious schools and homeschooling. As our society becomes more totalitarian, government will seek to end those alternative educational opportunities. So it behooves all of us to pay a lot more attention to the educational system in this country.

    Second, loose morales lead to loose fiscal policy. That is the inevitable destination of a society that has no morale anchor. Education is a key ingredient to instilling that morale anchor. This is true even if the students do not become true believers (a CINO if you will).

  • Bill S

    Well stated.

  • celador2

    Society was a teacher, decider and enforcer all in one. People did care what the neighbors think and many housing and school regulations reflected restraint in immoral conduct. Neighbors noticed who was around and up to no good. A drag but also with an uptick.

    A classic fim BW Ah flashback to about 1951. A man is on the run falsely accused of a murder and runs to the sister of his girllfriend who is single and lives alone. She has doubts about his story but informs him he can not hide for long in her house. The neighbors would see him and inquire who he was she told him. They cared enough to check all was well with her and that he was above board, is the point.

    Public schools at one time opened with the Lord’s Prayer and pledge of allegiance with no dissent as today. That worked with one main faith but too many resent Protestants today. The respect for the Bible and the flag reflected a larger value system that everybody knew whether active in Church or not. These values and symbols are not there anymore, not with the ominipotent respectful force they once occupied. We wonder if we should apologize for waving a flag, right? Can GOD be present on graduation from High School day? Hold your breath and pray.

    And the moral Biblical based social system they represent is also missing in public institutions that do not revere the flag and the Lord.
    It was the nondemocratic branch of government courts who haveusurped the popular will (Tenth Amendment) that removed the reverence for the Flag and the Lord form the public square and institutions. It was not market demand that removed the Lord’s prayer but over time there may be less demand due to lack of nurturing school prayer and mention of GOD.

    And institutions that are not nurtured do not thrive, they whither and die..

    We need our own schools that are so fantastic and inviting there is a demand for them. Kids want to come into them and be a part of our educational communities. It is doable folks, a cake walk.

    This reminds me of the Pilgrims, its exciting…..

  • timcooper62

    Yes…Many kids on the frontier were taught to read from the bible. It may likely have been one of the few books a frontier family would have owned.

  • Sir Aaron

    Except for my obvious spelling errors that I see now. Should have proofread my response first.

  • timcooper62

    What are you talking about? The Catholic church in the Council of Trent codified the books of the bible as you know it today, with the exception of the books stripped out by protestants. The Catholic Church, in the Council of Nicea is responsible for solidifying the basic dogma of Christianity that most denominations profess to believe. I don’t understand this Catholic prejudice.

  • mike57

    Thank you for your comment. I only saw a bigot, but will also avoid Mr. Chick like the plague.

  • sedentaryactivist

    If the point of this post is to suggest that Evangelical missionaries have been failures than it is dead wrong. 100 years ago the vast majority of Christians lived in the West. Today, the vast majority live outside the West. The church in non-Western countries has exploded while the church here in the West has languished. Some believe that China now has more evangelicals than the US. Africa, once dominated by Islam, now contends with a future showdown between radical Muslims and a rapidly growing Christian population.

    So, there may be a failure of education in the USA, but foreign missionaries have taken part in what may be the fastest, largest, and most expansive religious shift in the history of mankind. This has happened despite the fact that less than 10 percent of every dollar given by Protestant Christians goes to foreign missionary endeavors in non-Christian lands.

    So to suggest that more money be given to US efforts at the expense of foreign success is rather bizarre to me. I have no problem with shifting more money toward educational efforts that are decidedly Christian, but please don’t suggest that this be done at the expence of global missionary efforts.

    Erick, I love your political persuasiveness. Please, though, don’t contribute to the urban myth that Protestant Christians give generously to foreign missions: the don’t. Most of what Christians give ends up being spent on church salaries, administration, and buildings. Only a small sliver ends up in cultures which are dominated by Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism. Instead, we spend most of the offering on ourselves or other cultures which have had lots of exposure to Christianity.

  • irishpol

    Eric;

    You’re a good and decent man, but for a Catholic, I’ll say this, you sure aren’t from the old school. You have obviously bought into the modernist “new theology” of the leftist Church, but I’d respectfully suggest you enrich your spiritual life by checking out the Catholic Family News. It’s a publication edited by one John Vennari––a faithful Roman Catholic.

    Specifically, dig out an article he wrote on someone by the name of Maurice Blondel; who might well be called the father of modernism in the present-day catholic Church. I believe it was published in July 2012.

    You will find that the new theology of the Church, which you are unwittingly promoting, is the theological version of Barrack Obama’s “living Constitution”. Both the bishops and Obama promote the same thing; constant change. The new theology rejects Dogma as being immutable, and the leftists in our political world argue that the principles of the Constitution must also “change with the times”.

    The new theology of the catholic Church has convinced many heretofore faithful Catholics, that one religion is almost as good as the next (they say the Catholic Church is “best”), and they no longer promote the salvation of souls as the purpose for the Church, but instead, compete with government and other secular organizations in an effort to best them on the redistribution of wealth. Sadly, I see you buying into this politicly correct nonsense as well.

    Still, I like Red State and would hope you might take the time to educate yourself as to just what is really going on in the Catholic Church since the debacle they call Vatican II was initiated.

  • vandalii

    There was a time when public schools were not antogonistic toward Christianity. Even after SCOTUS “removed” prayer in schools, it was okay to have Bible Study Club, prayer meetings, etc. as students and faculty on school grounds, using school property, etc. In the last 30 years, the ACLU has boldly (and successfully :-( ) chopped into what should be a “no big deal” common access issue and made it their life’s goal to remove any vestige of Christianity from the classroom (being replaced by Islam, Hindu, Astrology, etc. — somehow they’re “okay” to them). So no, my schooling was not strictly secular the way it is today.

  • 4free

    You would do well by taking your own advice and refrain from

    discussing issues you know nothing about. The law of the land

    states that the public school system is to be secular. Denying this

    won’t change it. The constitution guarantees freedom FROM

    religion not freedom OF religion. Religion is a personal choice

    and should be taught in the home. To force all kids in a

    classroom to participate in your religion is not what this country

    is all about. Practice your faith but don’t try and force it on any

    body else.

  • vandalii

    timcooper62, may want to keep up with the conversation. The discussion is about public education in the 21st century, not the 19th ;-) . Agree with you that the Bible was the text on the frontier (and even in cities early on). Today, finding a Bible on a public school teacher’s desk is potential grounds for discipline. We have met the enemy, and he is us :-(

  • celador2

    Pagans did not do much educating in schools or at least my ancestors did not. In fact their legal code was largely oral and memorized. Not too many books or writings. I refer to the Germanic Christians and pagans before them. I like them though. The Chrstians in England year AD 1000 pre Norman invasion were still part pagan but Christian. The Roman uniified stamp would come later. I read years ago a delightful book on Life in England — ‘In the year 1000′.
    Yes there were things they did that I would endorse for today. Everyone had a price said Dane Geld. The vicitm got paid. Steal a chicken and pay the owner and more than chicken is worth, comes to mind.
    They were large, well fed and healthy for anyone in 1000. And the population was more evenly distributed than in following years of indistrialization.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Wrong, again. Just where does the Constitution guarantee freedom from religion? Nowhere. Period. Like the delusional liberals, you have drunk their poisonous kool-aid. Not to mention you have a severe reading and comprehension problem. No wonder you guys are so busy pushing your secular totalitarian views on others. You cannot handle the truth, therefore, you must make up lies to push on others.

    God bless you, you pitiful creature.

  • irishgirl

    Your second paragraph says it all. Revival through the Church and our nation is what is needed.

  • rabun1016

    It is really a time waster to argue about this. The prevailing wisdom of the Supreme Court, correct or not, is not going to change. Need to focus on something more productive.

  • celador2

    Correct me if I am wrong but I took EE’s evangelically toned op ed to say evangelicals must set up schools that also preach and convert just as do missions overseas. He put out a call for missionary work in the context of schools.
    Salvation of souls is first and that is not watered down. Without Christ and salvation, redemption as center there is no context for a school community either.

    if salvation is not a purpose why bother with Bible as guide or an educational community within that framework?

  • streiff

    if you don’t understand the argument, don’t get in it. The comment I was responding does not mention the Supreme Court. Even if he had, he would still be ill informed because the SCOTUS has never found a “freedom from religion” any more than did the Constitution.

  • littlehouse18

    I don’t think Erick wants to shift effort away from global missions, I think he want and additional effort here at home. As you say,it is sorely lacking. For the sake of our future as well as the world’s future, we must treat the USA as an important mission field.

  • westcoastpatriette

    I want to extend a call to prayer for our nation in light of the horrible tragedy that occurred in an elementary school in Connecticut this morning. News reports now have the death toll at twenty-seven — eighteen of whom were kindergardners — who were mowed down in another senseless shooting. We pray for the families of the victims — eight of whom were school staff members as well as all the authorities who are on the scene. May God comfort them all.

    And yes, Erick. We need to extend our missionary efforts to the public schools, too. How could this diary be more appropo?

  • jimmyg

    I do not disagree with you on your views on SCOTUS decisions, nor was that the point of my posts. It was my view that you do not have to settle for the public school system. Any attempt to insert religious based courses in a public school curriculum will result in 2 certain events, (1) litigation and (2) lawyers collecting fees from litigation. It will not result in religious based courses being taught in public schools.

  • littlehouse18

    But our children spend a huge amount of time in school. It is very difficult to counteract that influence even with home efforts. I believe my own timidity regarding being open about my faith out in society is partly due to the silencing of faith in public school. And part of my schooling was during the time that the banning of prayer was still controversial. I am thankful however, that I had a 3rd grade teacher who flaunted the law regarding school prayer – she said a prayer every day!
    The old admonition about ‘keeping politics and religion’ out of conversation is another culprit.

  • littlehouse18

    I think Erick is speaking to those who can afford to do so. Even if we can’t, we can certainly promote his ideas in other ways.

  • littlehouse18

    Perhaps the school can split up into several smaller schools with fewer employees that might not fall under the Act?

  • westcoastpatriette

    Erick is not Catholic. I believe he is Presbyterian.

  • littlehouse18

    You’re correct – it’s too hard to defeat the indoctrination – which is why my kids haven’t gone to Govt. schools. We’re better off competing from outside.

  • rightlane1111

    I’m confused by this article. I was born into the Catholic Church and remained until a divorce. I am sorry that I wad divorced…but being beaten does not seem much of a marriage. I still consider myself Catholic but I attend an Anglican Church.

    I’ve read some of the comments and what I have come up with is this. First off…we have to stop fighting on what religion is the BEST. If the common denominators are there and morality according to the Bible is taught then I don’t think one is better than the other. Now that might sound anti-Catholic…but I believe Jesus came to save “all” people…not just Catholics and I have always believed that way.

    So, I do believe that we should “give at home” first. We are in a mess. I would love to see the voucher system back in place, but that is one of the first things Obama overturned in DC itself…the voucher system. Our country suffers from a morality problem and if churches … all of them good find common ground instead of worrying about who comes first but rather the end goal…we might get somewhere.

    I really have never understood Evangelical and its meaning…so I pulled this up for you all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelicalism

    Get the Department of Education out of the Federal Government, give it back to the states. The closer people are to their government, the more control they have over it.

  • avgjo

    Your second to last sentence, about what this country is about, is historically uninformed. Before the Supreme Court took it upon itself to incorporate the 1st Amendment, by abusing the 14th Amendment, the respective states had the right to make a state religion official, to require that officials be of a certain religion, etc. etc. etc. Re-read the 1st Amendment: CONGRESS shall make no law…
    The only reason that capcricious rulings from the Supreme Court have the force of law (they are not law proper. That is not the Supreme Court’s Constitutional duty) is because the Congress is too insipid or cowardly to exercise its Constitutional authority to limit the jurisdiction of the court.
    As Blackstone said, the law
    ‘depends not upon the arbitrary will of any judge; but is permanent, fixed, and unchangeable, unless by authority of the parliament’
    The Founders were big fans of this guy.
    The Congress legislates; the Court interprets, and then the executive and congress get to decide what to do next. At least when the Constitution is being followed, and is understood.

  • sedentaryactivist

    Erick wrote, “The missionary dollars of Evangelical America are needed as much in this
    nation for teaching children increasingly removed from presuppositional
    Judeo-Christian values so many once took for granted.” So, I think he is saying that the current priority needs to shift.

    I agree that we should be considering needs in the USA. However, this is not really missionary work. It’s simply being Christian. Had Erick simply written that we should get off our butts and work to influence our culture I would be in 100% agreement. But instead he chose to contrast “being Christian” with “missionary work.”

  • avgjo

    The Bible, the New England Primer, McGuffey’s Original Readers, Harvey’s Grammar and Pilgrim’s Progress were staples in this country.
    Compare the country then, and the country now.
    I’ve used these books in helping my parents homeschool the youngest, and I know the works well.
    Problem is, they’re too hard (require too much work, and too cut-and-dried morally) for most people today. A friend of mine at a really good private school here was helping with the revamping of their curriculum; they were looking for a new English curriculum. I suggested Harvey’s for the grammar. The teacher, who had a degree in English, said she couldn’t do many of the exercises in that book.
    It’s tough. but worth it. Lazy language habits => lazy thinking habits => horrible citizenship habits.

  • jaykali

    I guess, but don’t you think its a better idea to get “school choice” for everybody? I don’t know anybody that could afford to send somebody else’s kids to private school. It’s expensive.

  • avgjo

    There is a much deeper relationship between education and morality than you seem to acknowledge.

    Morality comes from learning principles of right and wrong (from God and His Word), and then an inculcation process that involves parents, peers and institutions.

    Many kids in this country grow up with that. Then, when they get college, the entire structure gets seriously damaged or even destroyed, because the kids were not taught how to intellectually defend and (more importantly) attack modern secular philosophy by exploiting its serious weaknesses.

  • timcooper62

    OK smarty pants…my point was that the bible as a book was used to teach kids to read because it was available, not because it was the bible.

  • avgjo

    I especially enjoyed that last sentence of yours, celador.

    When I was a boy, and I’d read histories, whether it was the history of science, or the history of our country, I used to think to myself, how I wish I could have been there to participate in the laying of foundations (of course, worded differently). I was talking to a dour friend of mine the other day, who was talking about how all we can do is wait for everything to implode. I told him I found it kinda interesting, because although much has been torn down, that means there is lots of opportunity to rebuild. We just have to actually DO what we know needs to be done.

  • celador2

    I think it was about 1843 the Univeral primary education move begins in US by Horace Mann.
    Protestants were in colonial British NA by design and after US was founded the newcomers were largely evangelical and dissenters. Serious they were but had no large Church hierarchy. Protestants did not require elaborate religious instruction as that required by only a priest. They had rejected priests in fact as not necessary or with special status for salvation during the Reformation. But Protestants had learned clergymen just as did Catholics. In this higher education mission both branches of Christianiy have excelled. Hats off to them all.
    Our history is full of clergy and religious colleges in Europe and US as major institutions of higher learning Long before secularization took over the Church of England ran Cambridge. People of faith kept learning alive and educated teachers for primary education. Preachers ran scgools in England and educated their daughters. The Brontes and Jane Austen stand out.
    Study the life of founder Dr Benjamin Rush 1745-1813 of Philadelphia to get a look at all the clergy men and people of faith that made education their life. Most major universities were church run in Great Britain and that included univ Edinborough where Rush was able to attend medical school. He began life as a strict Calvinist and was a prig even by the standards of his day. He fell apart when his son played cards on Sunday one time. Rush never let up on tobacco and alcohol abuse. He became more open to salvation for many as time passed.
    A poor boy with no father alive, Franklin helped young Rush at one point with funding. He had studied with a colonial doctor but was so gifted others thought he should study in ine center of medical studies , Edinborough. Rush poached a prominent Scots clergyman to come to Colonies pre revolution to head a college. His father in law also signed Dec Indep and was a clergyman, I think.
    John Adams about ten years Rush’s senior attended the Puritan Congregationalist college Harvard with 700 boys whose calling was to train clergy. Harvard also trained educators and lawyers and gentlemen. Adams was in awe of his science prof John Wintrop and the telescope that opened a new world of discovery. John made a serious examination and decided the clergy was not his calling.
    As faithful as he was all his life he entered law and public service in service not only to the nation but the Lord. Adams family , community and his humble schools like Harvard turned out a fine man. Same for Dr Rush and his support systems.
    All this was from colonials in the late 1700s. . It gets no better.

  • celador2

    avgjo, What a feeling to be in on the beginning of great things. I want to get on a wooden ship and sail away across the ocean! I want to use all we know and get it right this time. We can do schools and build supportive communities.

    There is blowback with charter schools from unions. A heartbreaking event happened with conservative blacks recently in a failed effort to startt one for boys and then to run it theemselves. It was a hot fight with one member school board resigning in outrage and disgust. But in almost all locations it is possible to take steps to move ahead out of status quo.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “By contrast, much of what amounts to Christian education among
    evangelicals in America is educational separation from the secular
    world. With increasing intolerance of and hostility toward Christian
    values, Christians have opted out of government schools.”

    This withdrawal has led to a fractured culture, a secular system MORE hostile to Christian values than it otherwise would be, and less influence by evangelicals in the wider culture. In short, evangelicals have become the ‘counter culture’ as the 60s ‘counter culture’ has become the dominant culture, both among secular elites and the common people.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “Conservatives are complicit in the dehumanization and the degradation of
    our society by continuing to allow miserable failures like Arne Duncan
    and his whole group of liberals to define our schools. The same can be
    said of welfare, etc. It is time to start over in this nation.”

    Hyperbole. Conservative too often state things way too harshly. I never voted for Obama or supported Arne Duncan nor had anything to do with him, so how am I or any conservative “complicit” in something we didnt agree to? The illogic here is part of what is dreadfully wrong with conservative attitudes towards conservative and Republican leaders. If they arent all-powerful super-heroes and fail to stop the tide of liberalism, they too are to ‘blame’. But for what? For not stopping a 100 year trend of progressive takeovers in education that has turned this nation into what it is?

    Who’s really to blame? The ones who are actually DOING THIS or the ones, ie conservatives, who out of apathy, ignorance or lack of political will or other power, are unable to stop it?

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    ” … consider the commandment to make disciples of all nations as meaning nations outside America.”

    Hmmm. If 20% of Americans have no religious affiliation, 10% are ‘other’ / noncristian, and at least another 30% are lapsed, vauge or non-attending, it seems there is oppty for 150 million Americans or more to be brought closer to Christ. Another 200 million in Europe.

    “We need an old-fashioned revival whereby God himself intervenes to wake up the nation. ”
    Charity begins at home.

  • ryegal

    Well, clearly conservatives are not to blame for actually carrying out the secularizing, dumbing-down, and progressivizing of the schools. But we are to blame for not recognizing the danger sooner and taking effective action. Too few of us understand that the problem is having government-run schools at all. For the non-poor, taxpayer-funded schooling is little Johnny’s first turn at the government teat. And of course the schools are run by secularist lefties.

    If we personally and as a group stop supporting taxpayer-funded education (within the law, obviously — vote against tax increases, bond initiatives, increases in attendance requirements, etc.), and start supporting evangelical and other conservative options for all youngsters, we can begin to help the individual children, their families, and our society as a whole. I agree with Erick — the churches should be committing a huge amount of resources to this.

  • ryegal

    This is the heart of the matter.

  • ryegal

    Lamentably, the New Hampshire state constitution guarantees a right to a free public education. Other states may have similar constitutional provisions or laws that are nearly as binding in creating a “right” to public education. As I’ve already made clear, I think that these laws need to be erased and the entire institution of public education done away with. Then parents can choose the type of education they want for their children, and neither secularists nor religious people will be forced to subsidize the type of education they abhor. The fighting can come to an end, the need to “stack” the school board evaporates, etc.

  • dfschim

    The LCMS operates the largest Protestant school system in the United States. Currently the LCMS operates 1,368 Early Childhood Centers, 1,018
    elementary schools, 102 high schools, ten universities and two
    seminaries for a total of 2488 schools in the United States. The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) currently operates 23 high schools. The Episcopal Church in the United State of America maintains approximately 1200 schools, of which about 100 have a high school program. (All from Wikipedia)

  • ryegal

    My kids either. I agree with Erick that this has not helped the overall society much. But at least that makes two young citizens that are not vicious, propagandized, mindless drones.

  • ryegal

    I’m with you here. But I think Erick is referring to the large sums of money churches have available for missions. We as individuals may not be able to support others’ children in this way, but our churches can. And I would agree with the poster above that private school choice is also a terrific charity idea for any well-heeled conservative donors.

  • ryegal

    Also, if public schools could be done away with, the costs of private education would come down a shocking amount.

  • ryegal

    Yes, the left always fights against freedom in children’s education. No European nation has even the degree of educational choice that we do. The home-schoolers in the U.S. had a tremendous fight about three decades ago to make homeschooling legal in every state, and won Supreme Court battles to do so. However, government employees in the states continue to try to restrict home-schooling. Should the number of children in public schools begin to decline because more of their parents are choosing private or home school, we will see a strong crackdown attempt.

  • rightlane1111

    Let me see if this prints…I think this is one of the points Erick is trying to make:

    Well?

    Someone please tell me what the HELL’s wrong with all the people that run this country!!!!!!

    Both Republicans & Democrats

    We’re “broke”and can’t help our own Seniors, Veterans,
    Orphans, Homeless, etc.,???????????

    In the last years we have provided direct cash aid to

    Hamas – 351 M,
    Libya 1.45 B,
    Egypt – 397 M,
    Mexico – 622 M,
    Russia – 380 M,
    Haiti – 1.4 B,
    Jordan – 463 M,
    Kenya – 816 M,
    Sudan – 870 M,
    Nigeria – 456 M,
    Uganda – 451 M,
    Congo – 359 M,
    Ethiopia – 981 M,
    Pakistan – 2 B,
    South Africa – 566 M,
    Senegal – 698 M,
    Mozambique – 404 M,
    Zambia – 331 M,
    Kazakhstan – 304 M,
    Iraq – 1.08 B,
    Tanzania – 554 M,

    with literally Billions of Dollars and they still hate us!!!!

    Our retired seniors living on a ‘fixed income’ receive no aid nor do they
    get any breaks while our government and religious organizations pour Hundreds of Billions of $$$$$$’s and Tons of Food to Foreign Countries!

    We have hundreds of adoptable children who are shoved asideto make room for the adoption of foreign orphans.

    AMERICA: a country where we have homeless without shelter,
    children going to bed hungry, elderly going without needed medication and
    mentally ill without treatment -etc.

    YET…………………..

    They have a ‘Benefit’ for the people of Haiti on 12 TV stations, ships and
    planes lining up with food, water, tents clothes, bedding, doctors and
    medical supplies.

    Imagine if the *GOVERNMENT*gave ‘US’ the same support they give to other
    countries.

    Sad isn’t it?

    I really think some of these dollar numbers are understated. The point is…we need to take care of our “insides” first…that is where it all starts…and yet…look at the money we are giving for foreign aid…and look at what we have forgiven. I know…we are good, loving country…BUT…trouble is brewing at home.. and we have to take care of ourselves before we “redistribute” our money to other countries.

  • thebaptist

    Very nice, Eric. It was interesting to read this post Friday morning, and then hear about Newtown, CN that afternoon. Perhaps God is trying to tell you something.

    Think not that because Roman Catholicism has led the way in “missionary shcools” in America that they are doing a great work. Roman Catholicism is still the Great Whore of Revelation 17, and is still leading millions of souls to a Christless eternity in hell because of their works-based salvation that they teach. This is not missionary work, rather it is the devil’s deception.

    Consider what Solomon said in Proverbs 17:15: “He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the LORD.”

    As you have justified the wicked, and condemned the just in this article, understand where you stand in God’s eyes. If you truly are a Christian, you shall stand some day before Christ at his judgment seat and give account for these words, and it won’t go well.

    Consider another of Solomon’s sayings, Proverbs 17:16: “Wherefore is there a price in the hand of a fool to get wisdom, seeing he hath no heart to it?”

    Simply put, education is not the answer to America’s woes, but Christ is. The trouble is that far too many who call themselves Christians really are not, and as a result they focus on the social rather than the spiritual needs of people. The great commission, one of the verses you quoted above, is about salvation of people’s souls, not giving them a better place to live or a better education. Teaching them to follow Christ, and to be pleasing unto him, is the answer.

    This is what the church is for.

    The Christian school movement was born out of an anti-Christ spirit in this country that kicked God out of our public schools. The reason our country is in the fix it is today is flat out the fault of liberal Christianity, so called for their social emphasis.

    2 Chronicles 7:14 says: “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

    This verse still stands; the question is, when are God’s people, called Christians in America, going to turn from their liberal, wicked ways? God, alone, is the hope of this country, but so long as liberal Christianity arrogantly clings to their wickedness, then America has no hope.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    The Apostle Paul failed to win over the whole world for Christ. All Christians are admonished to Go Ye! Yes, since Eve bit the apple, human existence is the study of failure including Catholics and Evangelicals. But our failure pales in significance to non-Christians that not only don’t try, but who advocate secularism and moral relativism. I prefer to bash them.

  • westcoastpatriette

    There’s definitely an appropriate time for bashing, gamecock. There are those who have crossed the line of no return and they do not deserve mercy from any of us as they are playing to destroy us completely.

  • eburkedisciple

    I have been wanting to hear this message for 40 years. I hope our pastors and leaders are listening!

  • rabun1016

    I understand it. All too well.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Amen ‘patriette!