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Republicans: Don’t Get Outbid On Taxes

Stop Being The Stupid Party

Unlike some of my RedState colleagues, for reasons I explained on Tuesday, I agree with the basic theory behind John Boehner’s Plan B solution to the tax side of the fiscal cliff standoff: rather than trading Republican blessings on tax hikes for illusory “spending cuts,” let Democrats get the tax hikes they want with no pretense that Republicans support them, pass a bill making permanent those tax cuts both sides can agree on, and take the dispute back to the voters in 2014 and 2016. Then we can have the straight-up spending debate, and hold the line on further demands for even more tax hikes beyond the ones that Obama can get simply by not making a deal.

But Boehner has made what I regard as one significant mistake in this fight: he’s letting the Democrats get to his right on middle class tax cuts. Democrats are complaining that Plan B doesn’t extend some of the tax cuts for middle and lower income taxpayers, such as the “temporary” payroll tax cut, the Alternative Minimum Tax fix and the “American Opportunity Tax Credit” for certain college expenses (you can see the White House’s talking points, driven off yet another study by the left-wing Tax Policy Center, here and here). Some of this is disingenuous, as Democrats characterize the end of temporary government spending on non-taxpayers (including some aspects of the child tax credit and Earned Income Tax Credit) as “tax hikes.” But there are also some legitimate increases in taxes actually paid, mainly the expiration of the payroll tax cut, that will go into effect in the new year if Plan B is the only thing that passes. In other words, Democrats really are pressing for some tax cuts that Republicans are not.

This should never, ever happen to any competent Republican. It’s precisely how Obama outflanked Romney on the tax issue during the summer, and you would think the election results should have taught GOP leadership not to repeat that mistake. If anything, Republicans should up the ante: make the payroll tax cut permanent, and dare Democrats to block it. Any time Republicans get a Democrat to concede the value of tax cuts, that’s a conservative victory and should be taken to the bank while the getting is good. (As to the particulars of tax credits, Republicans uncomfortable with the structure can always devise an alternative of equal size). Make the Democrats be the ones to argue that Obama’s own payroll tax cut is unsustainable or unworkable. As things stand right now, workers – including members of the “47%” who pay no federal income taxes – are enjoying the benefits of being able to spend the money they earn instead of having it taken by the federal government. They are seeing in action the most important conservative fiscal policy argument of all. Republicans should never be the ones standing against that.

I believe it was Conn Carroll who remarked after the election that Ronald Reagan would have looked at 47% of the country paying no federal income tax and called it “a good start.” That philosophy animated Republicans under Reagan’s and George W. Bush’s presidencies and under Newt Gingrich’s Speakership: cut taxes for as many people as possible at every possible opportunity. While GOP tax cuts in those eras often benefitted the wealthy who paid the most taxes in the first place, they frequently offered proportionally equal or greater benefit to taxpayers at every income level. That’s why the party’s tax-cutting brand helped it appeal to middle class and non-wealthy suburban voters. The Romney campaign never understood the importance of never letting Democrats pose as being to the Republicans’ right on taxes, and as a result let Romney and the party get painted as too narrow in its economic appeal. If he wants the GOP to stop being the Stupid Party, Boehner should learn the lesson of Romney’s defeat, and amend Plan B to include, extend or expand every tax cut the Democrats claim to be willing to support. And Republican tax policy going forward should make that a line as stringently defended as the ATR no-tax-hikes pledge.

COMMENTS

  • NightTwister

    I agree. Plan B walks like a tax cut and talks like a tax cut.

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    I’m not so sure about this. Since Reagan, the GOP has made low taxes its foremost fiscal priority; and with increasing regularity has sacrificed its commitments to sane budgeting and minimizing domestic spending. Past budget showdowns have usually resulted in the GOP preserving and expanding tax cuts while the Dems get their domestic spending priorities. But the explosion of spending and deficits under W and even more under Obama has made that dynamic untenable for the nation, and thus irresponsible for the Republican Party or the conservative movement.

    So while there may be some short term advantage for the GOP to automatically embrace any and all tax reductions, I’d argue that responsible governance requires prioritizing on taxes as well as spending. Allowing handouts to be made through the tax code isn’t much better than allowing them to be made by other agencies. And there is some merit to insisting that more people have some stake in federal taxation. Of course, this requires a consistent commitment to fiscal discipline as our top priority so that people start trusting us to be the grown-ups in the room on budget issues.

  • http://scipio62.livejournal.com/ scipio62

    Boehner better hope that if this “Plan B” passes the House, it’s done with Republican votes and not Democrat ones, that the Senate won’t bring it up for a vote, and that Obama doesn’t sign it if it passes the Senate.

    Here is another bad scenario. It’s possible “Plan B” will pass even if a large number of House Republicans don’t vote for it and House Democrats do vote for it. Then the Democrats can own it, which will easily fly through the Senate and Obama’s signature.

    “If he wants the GOP to stop being the Stupid Party, Boehner…”

    Boehner has already confirmed it. Here’s proof. The last time Boehner and the GOP hooked up with Obama, Reid, and the Democrats to extend the current payroll tax rate, they did it by “paying” for it with fees added to every real estate transaction, despite the fact that these fees have nothing to do with Social Security.

  • checkmate2012

    While I highly applauded your “Republicans Must Retreat…” diary and I agree with your premise here of beat them at their own game, I must admit I don’t like the Payroll Tax cut at all. It is starving SSecurity when it’s on its knees now and this will hasten its demise.
    Today the Dems are urging O to refuse to support the chain CPI or include it in the cliff talks. Bottomline is most Dems don’t even want to touch SS reforms. Maybe reinstate the tax cut once reforms are implemented but not now or use it as a carrot for entitlement reform.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “It’s precisely how Obama outflanked Romney on the tax issue during the summer,
    and you would think the election results should have taught GOP
    leadership not to repeat that mistake. If anything, Republicans should
    up the ante: make the payroll tax cut permanent”

    I agree with this. If this is good policy, make it permanent. If its not good policy … well, I am not one who liked it when they increased payroll taxes in the past. Obviously lower taxes means we have to reduce our liabilities, but we are stuck in the vice of Obama’s reverse Reaganism – HE acts like santa claus with spedning without limit and dares the GOP to find a way to pay for it.

    Let’s get out of that failing and wrong narrative. You now have the liberal media saying “hey, it raises taxes on poor people” because it dares to cut off some of the tax credits. Well, they should be cut off, but why not extend them as that is not the core dispute the core dispute is the Democrats wanting more taxes and more spending.

    We dont need to Christmas tree this bill, but in the spirit of the season, we could extend any of the tax credits we dont like by one year (putting up for negotiation later) and make anything we DO like permanent.

    In the end, its all a negotiation. Donlt let the Democrat out taxcut us.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Right now, the oppty for real fiscal responsibility from Obama is nil, the best we can do is save as many taxpayers as possible while preserving as low a tax structure as possible, and keep the debt ceiling and budget limits in place for later negotiation on spending, once we have the Damocles sword of large tax hikes removed.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “Here is another bad scenario. It’s possible “Plan B” will pass even if a
    large number of House Republicans don’t vote for it and House Democrats
    do vote for it. Then the Democrats can own it, which will easily fly
    through the Senate and Obama’s signature.”

    Actually, that would be ideal. It’s a reasonable compromise, probably the best the GOP can do in these circumstances, and gives Democrats about as much but not more than they deserve… the real nightmare is something worse. We pass this, it becomes “GOP” position, and the Democrats move even more populist, the cliff happens and we end up in the end with a far worse bill.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “I must admit I don’t like the Payroll Tax cut at all. It is starving
    SSecurity when it’s on its knees now and this will hasten its demise.”

    Ya know …. a 20th century FDR built ponzi scheme that keeps people enslaved to the Congress for benefits … demise is just another word for ‘reform’.

    “Bottomline is most Dems don’t even want to touch SS reforms.” … So Dems are on the record for the popular position of hastening SS demise. Why play the grinch? Why be on the record to get more money from workers AND less benefits to the Seniors? It’s tough to run against the ‘free lunch’ crowd, but the fact is that we cant keep losing elections and power to the free lunch crowd by dying on the hill of being the tax collectors for their failed Big Govt dreams.

    Sooner or later, we have to make the Democrats own their over-spending. We cant do it by letting them support tax cuts that we dont.

  • checkmate2012

    I suppose you and Dan are right…it’s just a bad policy if one wants to keep SS solvent. Then again, I agree with you that it’s a Ponsi scheme and would prefer that it never existed but am realistic to know it’s not going away anytime soon. With your thinking tho’, if we keep starving it with a Payroll tax cut, it will either die on the vine or be propped up with more borrowed $$s from China…option B is the most likely for as long as the eyes can see.

  • norishman

    Hmm, I get your point, but let’s be realistic here: we all know that the economy isn’t doing as well as we’d like it too. Also, it’s economic fact that lower taxes will get us out of the rut – heck, even most of the Dems (and their belief in Keynesian Economics) agree that taxing 98% of the nation’s people right now wont get the economy moving again. That’s why they’re proposing tax cuts in the first place; honestly, if the economy weren’t struggling – they’d be asking for more from everyone!

    I’m very surprised that the GOP isn’t talking about the economy more – what
    happened? All I’ve been seeing is stuff about budgets and political posturing. I agree that there comes a time to be concerned with the budget (and as for political posturing, there’s only so much you can do without the People on your side) – but don’t you think that the American people deserve to finally move out of the recession’s effects permanently after the stimulus’ minimal accomplishments? Somebody has to take initiative…

    I also agree that Payroll Tax cuts are not worth it in the long-run (as getting rid of Social Security while it holds debt is undoubtedly financially irresponsible) – but the economy comes first in my book. At least then people will actually be able to afford it…

  • OhioHistorian

    The Supreme Court has already said that the Payroll Tax and Social Security are not connected. So, let’s just starve the beast. The Dems are counting on the Republicans acting like adults. I’m in favor of shouting “more candy for all” myself!

  • checkmate2012

    I guess too many don’t understand the economy as a whole and only focus on their own pocket, so yes, less taxes is the best outcome. What used to be known as crisis management, by definition a rare occurance (clearly not the norm) but now an immediate threat that has to be dealt with, is the status quo of governing by our federal government. This threat, the fiscal cliff, was created and predicted by the same parties that are now supposed to solve it. Let’s face it, the contingency plan was the sequestration and now Plan B is the contingent contingency plan. Pure madness.

  • septembergurl

    Debate is ending…Paul Ryan speaking now http://houselive.gov/

  • Viet71

    Lincoln was a great man, a great lawyer, and a great president because he knew how to size up a problem, how to define it. He taught us lessons.

    What is the problem?

    I aver the problem is that our economy is growing at a slower pace than our national deficit.

    Neither Obama’s approach nor Boehner’s would dampen economic growth, IMO. But neither would encourage economic growth. I say, a pox on both.

    Over the cliff, and pick up the pieces.

  • Bill S

    I agree with Dan and you.

  • diamondreo

    I’m more serious about this than it may seem: the Repubs need to book a motel in northern illinois and just sit this out.

    …oh, and make sure they don’t tell anybody that they’re there.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Great.

  • diamondreo

    Issair’ like mattresses at the bottom of that cliff, or like..sharp rocks?

  • commonsenseobserver

    Now, while we’re on the subject of Social Security, why didn’t we ever sell personal accounts as a payroll tax holiday of sorts too? They can keep the money and invest, after all.

    Of course, benefits must be restrained either way. And this is one area where starving the beast has great potency. Seniors would always rather have cuts than no benefits at all, while youths would prefer not to pay highly unfair taxes to sustain bloated entitlements.

  • diamondreo

    ..oh there’s a good round of whipping coming…that’s one of the only things we know for sure!

  • commonsenseobserver

    The Democrats seriously seemed like they were running with the “spending cuts = tax hikes on the poor” line.

  • commonsenseobserver

    If Plan B ultimately fails, the rebels deserve whatever they get.

  • WmCraig

    One of the problems coming out of the blue states is that low taxes have not resulted in increased job opportunities for the blue state Reagan Democrat/Independent working person. During all this time jobs for people that work with their hands have become more scare each year. So the message no matter how it is improved simply will not change the voting pattern.What is needed is leadership on spending, reconstruction, and alternative education. What Boehner’s plan B should have been is to give Obama exactly what he wants, disclaiming ownership, doubting the outcome AND demand appropriations for Senior Citizens and school voucher programs.

    The seniors are going to up in arms when they realize that Medicare advantage is gone, and we let it go. The only way to reach the Hispanic and Asian communities is through family values, and that means appropriating/earmark a portion of all education block grants so that they can be claimed by families in the top urban markets directly forcing school districts in the big blue cities to become responsive to these parents.

    Six months from now our campaign platform says, “working hard for hard working families, and protecting senior citizens.” When the debt ceiling is reached our response is :Obama said taxing the rich will solve all the problems is Obama wrong again?

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Correct.
    We are also forgetting a simple fact: The Congress consistently FAILS in the high-stakes “drama” but can easily WIN when it comes to simple grind of creating and passing a boring old budget. We want to spend less? Just pass a freakin’ budget with less spending! Of course Obama can veto HHS or get Senate to negotiate for more, but in reality that’s where the action is.

    We have already failed to use the high-stakes leverage to force spending cuts.

    At this point we need to stop letting setbacks become routs that harm us significantly. Salvaging taxpayers is the one thing we can do.

  • Kyle-MI

    Now that is an innovative idea. Use the employer’s contribution to go to the federal system and the employee’s contribution to go to individual accounts, a retirement account and a medical savings account. In essence we are turning the payroll holiday into forced savings accounts that are still owned by the employee instead of the federal government.

  • Kyle-MI

    That is not going to happen. There will be a tax hike even if nothing passes. That is what the Dems want and the GOP will get the blame.

  • Kyle-MI

    The more I think about it, the more I like it. How are the Dems going to complain about it? It is not taking money from the SS or medicare systems because the payroll tax holiday was already doing that. It is not taking money from the people because they own the accounts.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    OOOPS, I was wrong: REAL worst case – Plan B FAILS. Now the cliff happens, GOP GETS BLAMED, in January the Democrat pass THEIR BILL to do it THEIR WAY in the Senate, by then the GOP is so disgraced the House lets it happen with a dozen GOP stragglers and the Democrats.

    Dave Weigel tweets – OH: “Only these Republicans could turn the Bush tax cuts into the 2013 Obama tax cuts.”

    Boehner needed plan B to have a defensible credible
    alternative to Obama’s position. The GOP needed that to avoid the blame
    on the fiscal cliff and have a path to resolution. Now we have none. GOP
    is on record to allowing all the taxes to go up and refusing to bend
    just to save millionaires… after a year of Obama casting the GOP as
    the ‘party of the rich’ did we really want that?!? The tax revenues and
    impact involved is LESS than what Boehner and other Republicans have
    already conceded to (eg with loophole closure).

    This is the reaction from the other side: “What a disastrous, embarrassing,
    epic FAIL! Republicans can’t legislate, Boehner can’t control his
    nut-jobs, and they all run out of town rather than stay and do the
    people’s work. They are in shambles!
    Can’t even pass their OWN legislation! Pass the popcorn!”

    Basically, tagging the GOP as nutjobs who cant govern will be the Democrat meme. Expect it. Failing on Plan B has become our own waterloo.

  • thurman

    I hate Plan B but I also think it was the only tactical option at this point, and not a bad one
    Boehner has now created in infinitely worse scenario by failing to whip enough votes, bear with me

    He proposed maintaining the Bush rates on everyone making under a million/year

    He couldn’t get Republicans to even pass that bill

    I myself think this is perfectly fine

    But the “optics” (I hate that word) are terrible– lying liberal demagogues will now laugh and point fingers at the fact that the House would rather let all the Bush rates expire, than increase rates on just millionaires

    It’s not fair or adult, but that’s how this is going to spin

    Floating the Plan B and now failing to even pass that, is a massive egg on our faces.

    Boehner would have been better off not publicly discussing a Plan B at all, now floating it and failing to pass it is an utter disaster

  • joshinca

    A new speaker?

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    Totally agree FT. I am actually for eliminating the payroll FICA tax and ending the charade of an “insurance” plan.

  • norishman

    I’m not sure where you got that information – but it’s not true.

  • norishman

    Idk, the economic indicators are livable; I’m optimistic from how we’re at least not heading in the wrong direction economically. This is just a no-brainer though; there’s no excuse to hindering any progress that can be made.

  • OhioHistorian

    Did you read your link? The end of the first paragraph says that it is true, and cites the same case that I cite below: http://www.ssa.gov/history/nestor.html. The exact quote from the majority opinion is:

    (B) TO ENGRAFT UPON THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM A CONCEPT OF “ACCRUED PROPERTY RIGHTS” WOULD DEPRIVE IT OF THE FLEXIBILITY AND BOLDNESS IN ADJUSTMENT TO EVER-CHANGING CONDITIONS WHICH IT DEMANDS AND WHICH CONGRESS PROBABLY HAD IN MIND WHEN IT EXPRESSLY RESERVED THE RIGHT TO ALTER, AMEND OR REPEAL ANY PROVISION OF THE ACT. PP. 610-611.

    What’s not true?

  • norishman

    “The United States Supreme Court decided in Flemming v. Nestor (1960) that no one has an accrued property right to benefits from Social Security.

    That has absolutely no correlation to “Payroll tax and Social Security are not connected.” The tax is still levied, and the money from the tax is still put forward to fund Social Security. People just don’t have the right to claim that Social Security benefits are private property.

    Read it for what it is: “To engraft upon the Social Security system a concept of ‘Accrued Property Rights’…”