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Liberals Don’t Need Revenue to Grow Government Anymore

Once upon a time, liberals were somewhat principled in their pursuit of a utopian dirigisme.  Sure, they always liked to play a bit of class warfare, but they fundamentally believed in taxing everyone.  After all, if you want a cradle-to-grave government-run society, it’s got to be purveyed by the broad populace. There simply aren’t enough rich people to raise the requisite funds for a rapacious federal monstrosity.  That’s why Walter Mondale openly campaigned on raising everyone’s taxes.  “Look at em, we’re gonna tax their a**es off,” he declared privately after his 1984 convention speech.

However, three things transpired over the past 20 years that completely changed the dynamic.  First, deficit spending has grown from just a supplementary to the welfare state to an equal partner along with tax revenue.  Hence, liberals no longer need more tax revenue to grow government.  They’ll borrow the money.  Second, Republicans won the tax debate, imbuing hatred for more taxes in the hearts of the voters.  Why should Democrats risk sowing the seeds of disquiet with tax increases, when they can accomplish the same goals with deficit spending?  Lastly, thanks to the Reagan and Bush tax cuts, a number of people pay little or no income taxes.  Liberals are wise enough not to mess with that, and in fact, seek to grow that demographic.

Taken as a whole, Obama and the Democrats decided to beat us by joining us.  Not only have they eschewed their broad tax hiking agenda, they couch their plans in the parlance of tax cutting.  Despite their public arguments about the need to raise revenue to deal with the deficits, they know that they can never raise enough revenue from the rich.  Yet, they figure they can have their cake and eat it too.  That’s why they pushed for tax hikes just on the “super rich.”  To that end, they are able to continue their spending binge (through deficit spending) while focusing their tax hikes on such a small percentage of people, most of whom are unknown to the average voter.

It is clear that Obama wanted the $450,000 income threshold all along.  He knows that $250,000 is not so much money, and will affect a large chunk of voters in high-cost regions of the country.  Again, why sow the seeds of unrest with a broader demographic when you can accomplish the same thing with deficit spending, while still offering the façade to those low-information voters of sticking it to the rich and raising revenue?  Obama only used the $250,000 threshold as a smart negotiating tactic of asking more than you want (something Republicans will never understand).

This was never about raising revenue; it was about growing government, while showing the public that government has the power to take what it wants, albeit – by choice – only from the super-duper rich.

Many Republicans view the fiscal cliff tax hike as a victory for conservatives.  After all, the Bush tax cuts were extended for 99% of the population.  Here’s what George Will had to say about the fiscal deal last Sunday:

“I think people will look back on this [as a] deal where liberalism passed an apogee and went into decline for the following reason: The Bush tax rates were passed in two tranches, 2001 and 2003. In 2001, only 28 Democratic members of the House voted for them. In 2003, only seven did. And they did it for only 10 years they were to expire. Under this deal, 172 House Democrats voted to make Bush rates permanent for all but one half of 1 percent of American taxpayers. What that means is that they can no longer tax the middle class.”

I firmly disagree.  The fact that they will no longer tax the middle class is a serious problem.  George Will is still living in an era when there was little deficit spending and most of the nourishment of the welfare state came from tax revenue.  Were that dynamic to persist today, the fiscal deal would severely limit the ability of Democrats to grow government.

Unfortunately, we are living in a time when government is expanded through what politicians view as free money, especially with record-low interest rates on treasury bonds.  They have no intention of taxing the middle class (directly) to grow government.  They don’t need to.

Honestly, if we are going to live under an Obama utopian society, I’d like to see taxes go up on everyone.  Let’s raise income taxes across the board.  Let’s institute a VAT.  Let everyone see the consequences and feel the pain of the federal leviathan.  Then we’ll see how many people would like to continue on the current trajectory.

The reason why the fiscal deal was a triumph for the left is because they have solidified the belief that their expansive government-take-all society can persist on the backs of those who have too much money to know what to do with it.  Moreover, the tax bill actually zeros out the tax liability of those who already paid little in taxes, and increases the net gains of those who already had a zero tax liability.  It pleases the masses, while sticking it to a small group of people just to project the power of government.  Yes, there are dozens of hidden taxes on the middle class in the form of regulations and market distortions as a result of the federal monstrosity, but those who understand that are already voting against liberals.

We might applaud ourselves for saving the middle class from tax hikes, but that is no longer where the battle for limited government is being fought.  Democrats ceded that issue a long time ago, and have pursued their desires through permanent debt.  For bonus points, they advocate raising taxes on the rich to masque their insouciance towards the debt and for the purpose of evincing a sense of righteous empathy towards the middle class.

That’s why we can no longer starve the beast with less tax revenue.  We must force transformation reductions in government.  With the debt ceiling and CR battle around the corner, that time is now.

Cross-posted from The Madison Project

COMMENTS

  • libertynugget

    I think there needs to be a diary on avoiding cynicism amongst conservatives.
    The current government (D and R) are f*****g clown shoes.
    It’s becoming a bad joke that is going to cost us our liberty.

  • celador2

    I like your logic, dan, We must all feel the pain to see the light that must shine on the deficit spending easy money budgets.

    Taxes are too high but should be much much higher to pay as we go for all the growth in spending money Obama does not have. Let taxes rise across the board and let all share. A VAT I hate as welfare state confiscation on the spot..
    But as a tactic that would cause Obama non tax payers to feel the pain and face reality, A Value Added tax is a tactic I approve.

    Deficit spending and debt with no immediate consequences are tools of tyrants. Just look around us.

    Soon they in DC will seek to raise debt ceiling and fund the goverment by Continuing Resolutions with guarantees at a level that does not cut spending. Is that behavior that promises more of the same in spending how Obama and Ds won 2012?

  • celador2

    I hate the hidden VAT and consumption taxes for all those reasons but as a tactic to have everyone experience the pain I support it. But not just adding a VAT and nothing more, Oh no. As you say they only grumble.
    Get everyone on tax rolls or lower them so much few of us pay.

  • northfloridawriter

    I think it is treasonous and, unfortunately, a large group of Americans don’t give a damn. As long as they get what they want, consequences be damned. As for the rest of us, we can ever give up or we can resist with all of our strength and soul. Is there anything we can do? Well, if we all just sit on our keister there certainly won’t.
    Good patriotic and God-fearing Americans need to pray, communicate with like minded Americans (the numbers are huge), speak out loudly and figure out what we’ll do? It won’t be easy but God never said it would be. For comfort, just think about the early Christians and what they put up with. Despite pain, death, and other suffering, they kept the faith. Will you?

  • conservitas

    I’ll agree that George Will has developed all the political accuracy of Mr. Magoo with a long range sniper rifle – he might not hit within a county mile of the target. All his articles lately seem to be, “Don’t worry, if we do nothing all this will eventually work out just fine.” Riiigghhhht.

    But I disagree that there will even be a debt ceiling battle — that is shaping up to have all the drama of the Boehner speakership re-election, i.e., none. Quite a few Establishment Republicans in “safe” districts have already announced that they are ready and willing to raise the debt ceiling without any deal, and the Establishment Business Lobbies are not going to be willing to risk any significant market turmoil to force spending cuts that doesn’t immediately benefit them. So, pretty much the same Establishment Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote with Dems on the Fiscal Cliff are going to do the same on the debt ceiling, and they will slyly also join Dems in trying to make the rest of the Republicans look bad for not doing so. Just wait and watch.

    The sequester is another matter, but there it seems that Obummer is content to let there be some level of entitlement cuts so long as there are corresponding military cuts. Again, the Establishment Republicans will probably cross the aisle to protect their big-dollar military donors and cut another deal with Dems.

    Treating all Republicans as alike or all as conservatives is neither practical nor true these days — the Establishment Republicans are about as likely to break from the rest of the GOP as they are to join it. It is almost as if we have a de facto three-party system going on.

  • bobmark

    The beast is an omnivore and will eat anything and everything. Cut off the tax supply and it will switch to someting else, currently it is enjoying QE. The debt ceiling is a red herring. The real battle must be over the CR’s. If there wan’t so much spending in the CR’s we wouldn’t need to raise the debt ceiling.

  • smilingdutch

    And they’re right.

  • smilingdutch

    Since when was moderate a bad thing ?.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    There was a theory back in the Reagan era that he deliberately had a large deficit to ‘starve the beast’. If so, then Obama is Bizzaro-Reagan.

    But in fact, Reagan did NOT want large deficits, they were the result of divided government. Reagan had 3 priorities: tax cuts, strong defense, and control spending. With the Democrat Congress he never got the third, and had a priority to keep defense strong and the tax cuts low … so we got deficits.

    In the Obama era it is the reverse. The will of voters to tolerate overspending is a lot larger than their toleration of higher taxes, especially on the middle class. The Democrats know that higher taxes would kill them politically. SO they are willing to “GORGE THE LEVIATION” – stuff it with more and more spending, with not a care about how to pay for it.

    Any attempt to be fiscally responsible will be met with “We will not balance the budget on the backs of the ” where XYZ is the favored victim group du jour.
    Never mind the fact that NOT balancing the budget will cripple the US in the future, creating debt payment levels absurdly high – in the trillion range by 2020 if we dont reduce our debt.

    WIth tax revenues under the massive Obama tax hikes heading towards 18% of GDP, we are no longer in a ‘low tax’ era but our tax revenues are higher than ever in history. We can absolutely say that no more taxes are needed, wise, and would instead be dangerous economically damaging job killers.

    The conclusion is right: The battle for big vs small Government is now all about the spending.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Sales taxes and VAT are broadbased and efficient taxes. You collect a lot of revenue without killing the economy … precisely for that reason, they have been used in countries where the ‘income tax’ ran out of headroom.

    If you notice all hightax domains tax income AND sales AND wealth. The 3 legged stool… if you want to keep taxes low, keep one of those legs off the table. This is why Herman Cain’s brilliant 9-9-9 plan is a setup for giving the liberals a western european tax system. As 9-9-9 it would be great, but another Obama would make it 15-15-30 and France here we come!

    America would be better off if we:
    1. Abolished all state income taxes. let them use sales taxes only. T

    2. Kept the federal income taxes to income and imports only (or use a tax like Texas has – margins tax, a business tax halfway between vat and corporate income tax).

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    So long as conservatives have this passive -aggressive
    stupidity about making voters “feel the pain” they will remain in the
    political wilderness.Kemp-Roth wasnt ‘pain’ it was “What is the
    right answer”. The right answer is NOT higher taxes, so PLEASE
    conservatives STOP advocating higher taxes! We should be for lower spending.

    Instead of trying to get everyone in the income tax… HOW ABOUT WE ADVOCATE ABOLISHING THE INCOME TAX FOR ALL BUT THE TOP 20%? (And make it a flat rate for them.)

  • Tbone

    Uh, Dan, I’m afraid you are a little behind the curve here. Democrats have gone past deficit spending to grow government as that implies you are actually borrowing real money in an open market system. What we are doing now is just printing money which is then used to “buy” our own debt. As such, Democrats have gone past deficit funded government to printing press funded government. This works great until people suddenly realize that the money is only worth the paper it’s printed on. If any one doesn’t believe me, just go to Ebay and search for “Zimbabwe trillion dollar note”.

  • brah

    Can you name a politician who is a “moderate” in your mind? Because to me the definitions are something like this: Liberal/progressive (Obama and all Democrats and some Republicans) = somebody who spends $1.5 Trillion/year more than we take in. Conservative (the former Senator Jim Demint, maybe Rand Paul, no longer Paul Ryan) = somebody who wants a balanced budget amendment, i.e. Government spends no more than it takes in (and hopefully less to pay down our debt). Moderate (most Republicans, including Boehner and McConnell, former President Bush) = somebody who spends $500 billion to a $1 Trillion/year more than we take in. (i.e. moderate approx. = progressive).

  • davesinsanantonio

    Well, here is a “when” for you.

    “In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win.
    In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.”
    — Ayn Rand

    Since political “moderates” are all about “compromise” and “reaching across the aisle”, then moderate is a bad thing when the other side is all about “fundamentally transforming America”.

  • davesinsanantonio

    And he will say it as all Bush’s fault, and the Republicans are to blame, and we are all just racists anyway, and we have too many guns and we cling to our Bibles, and “so there!”.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Well, if we do have a de facto three party system, then I suggest we get rid of the one which isn’t working, and that is the establishment Republicans. The ONLY way to do that is to elect more conservative Republicans and let them have ALL of the Republican Party, not just the back benches.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Pain can be nature’s way of telling you that something is wrong. But, when you are self-flagellating pain is the goal. So, you are right that we should be fighting for something that will actually work instead of just creating pain. Actually, I wouldn’t mind it if Boner and McCoward we flagellating themselves, but they keep aiming their whips at me! So, let’s use the pain that comes naturally, and the unemployment rate is sufficiently painful, and start telling the American people if they want their pain to stop they should allow is to create more jobs. That is the only way out of this mess in the long run.

  • davesinsanantonio

    No, they will still overspend and blame us for the need to do it. Then they will insist on taxing the rich to pay for their overspending, and blame us for the need to do it. Then those higher taxes will creep down to the middle class, and they will blame us for that as well.

    The only solution is to cut spending, pay down the debt, and then cut taxes and let the exploding prosperity prove to the American people that we were right all along. If we allow higher spending at all, we cannot win!

  • davesinsanantonio

    The problem with your thinking is that Obummer and every other Dim for the next thousand years will blame us for the pain the people feel, and the people will believe them. We cannot win by letting taxes for the average Joe go up—we will be the only ones blamed, and then we will never be able to get enough offices to right the political or economic ship of state. We cannot let taxes go up on the middle class. The rich will just find alternatives for their money, but the middle class do not have those options. If we let taxes on the middle class go up, all is lost.

  • davesinsanantonio

    No, it would not!!! A national sales tax would not come close to controlling spending, because the libs always spend several times more than any new tax creates. Just adding a national sales tax would only make our economy worse.

  • docnick

    The problem with the tax for everyone idea like a VAT tax (or an other new named tax) is that it never stops.. Never…

    Over the decades our government has now taught three generation that they don’t have to work or produce anything other than children to live a life that most of the people in the world can never hope to have.

    We need to replace all in congress that have had a hand in this destruction.

  • funwithknives

    …and once again, ‘DISA’, uses his Laser-Guided Hammer to hit The Target accurately.
    When you ‘Compromise’ with someone who, in reality, is not losing a blessed thing , you are only lying to yourself. When you’re a Congressman and you do this , you bring all those who voted for you along for the ride.
    Well, I, for one am sick and tired of the ‘Motion Sickness’ I’m experiencing and ‘need a cure’.
    So, Holding Zero (to use a quaint surveying term) does not seem all that fanciful to me.
    Think “”Occam’s Razor” for a minute or 3…………
    (Good On Ya’, Dave)

  • funwithknives

    If you mean to reduce or even [Unbounded Joy ! ] eliminate the IRS and swap to a Nat’l Sales Tax then ,Oh-Hell-Yes, this guy is on board, Large.
    But dual them up, and leave it that way?
    That way lies the ever-ripening seeds of our destruction, being planted as we speak.
    Which is it, Dan? C’mon, give……….

  • jackm

    Exploding prosperity. That sounds good.

  • soljerblue

    Doesn’t sitting on that fence get uncomfortable after awhile? The time is long past when we can afford “moderates”.