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Finally, Honest Words From the Pro-Abortion Society

I feel like singing the Hallelujah Chorus right now.  No more “safe, legal and rare” canard.  No more lies about how an unborn child is just a “bunch of cells”.  The left is finally coming “out of the closet” on the truth that life begins at conception and abortion is murder.  Or at least, one author on the left is doing so…Salon author Mary Elizabeth Williams who is the author of an article entitled “So what if abortion ends life?”

It’s honest at least.  And that’s a step in the right direction.  Better by far than the constant and repetitive attempts to deceive young females with all the other random dishonest claims that the pro-abortion crowd has used over the years.

For those of us who attempt to live our lives within a scope of moral absolutes, the question of abortion being the equivalent of murder has always been a relatively simple question to answer.  Yes, it is the equivalent of murder.  Our moral standards define various forms of behavior as being right while other forms of behavior are wrong.  Murder is wrong.  Most of us have also learned to stay away from relative moral standards as much as possible.  Why?  Because it can be highly tempting to want to justify behaviors that are wrong.  Human beings are simply human.  No more and no less.  We all face temptations to engage in wrong behaviors from time to time.  It’s how we respond to those temptations that matters, i.e. whether we resist those temptations or whether we allow them to get the better of us.

For those who don’t live within a scope of moral absolutes, the following type of justification can be relatively common:

Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.

(snip)

We’re so intimidated by the wingnuts, we get spooked out of having these conversations. We let the archconservatives browbeat us with the concept of “life,” using their scare tactics on women and pushing for indefensible violations like forced ultrasounds. Why? Because when they wave the not-even-accurate notion that “abortion stops a beating heart” they think they’re going to trick us into some damning admission. They believe that if we call a fetus a life they can go down the road of making abortion murder. And I think that’s what concerns the hell out of those of us who support unrestricted reproductive freedom.

But we make choices about life all the time in our country. We make them about men and women in other nations. We make them about prisoners in our penal system. We make them about patients with terminal illnesses and accident victims. We still have passionate debates about the justifications of our actions as a society, but we don’t have to do it while being bullied around by the vague idea that if you say we’re talking about human life, then the jig is up, rights-wise.

Those are portions of Ms. Williams article, which ends with the comments of

And I would put the life of a mother over the life of a fetus every single time — even if I still need to acknowledge my conviction that the fetus is indeed a life. A life worth sacrificing.

Yes, the temptation to justify wrong behavior is definitely being exhibited in this article, is it not?  Of course, one of the problems of relative moral standards is that it sears the human conscience causing human beings to become numb on the inside to the low standards consuming their life and the scope of wrong behavior that they are willingly embracing.

But even beyond the question of moral standards and human behavior, I wonder if Ms. Williams has actually considered this question in light of the rule of law.  What is being promoted by the pro-abortion movement is for an individual to take the responsibility upon themselves to define whether or not another human being has the right to life and selective adherence to the rule of law.

In our nation, we have laws prohibiting deliberate, intentional, cold-blooded murder.  As citizens of this nation, we can selectively choose to violate a law, but if we do so, we must be prepared to accept the scope of consequences that exist as punishment for failing to adhere to the law, correct?  That’s how the rule of law works.  We don’t have the right to selectively impose the rule of man (with ourselves as judges for the law) over the rule of law on a whim then simply justify our actions based on our professed “rights”.  We don’t have the right to take the law into our own hands.  Especially when it causes harm to other s within our society.

Yet the life of the innocent and unprotected “is a life worth sacrificing” according to Ms. Williams.

Unborn children definitely fall into that category of “others”, don’t they?  With no voice of their own and unable to stand up for themselves…to protect themselves from harm.   If the pro-abortion society didn’t understand before why those of us who value human life have been as adamant as we have in our fight against abortion, perhaps they will understand this…we won’t leave them to stand alone.  Those unborn children with no voices.  We won’t leave them to stand alone with no one to champion their right to life.  Even if you do desert them, we won’t.

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  • proprevention

    The Salon article was indeed an interesting look into the mind of someone who is strongly “pro choice”. I found her reference to being a mother and being on experimental drugs, and her need for an abortion should she become pregnant while on those drugs, intriguing.

    Some research shows that the poor woman is currently suffering from Stage 4 Cancer (http://www.maryelizabethwilliams.net/8201.html ). All life is precious, and hopefully it works out for her. While I could not disagree with her views more, it could have been a better outcome if all the energies she spent on her article, and the energies spent by those protesting her ideas were instead channeled into making sure pregnant women are not exposed to medications harmful to the child (the example I’ve used in the past is the administration of routine vaccines by error to women who are pregnant and do not know it). Perhaps that would have prevented some abortion decisions.

    This debate I fear will not change any hearts or minds and change the terrible math.

    www.proprevention.org

  • runner12

    Quite frankly, Ms. Williams’ reasoning (if you can call it that), seems more like a page out of the eugenics programs of the Third Reich. When even one innocent life ceases to be precious, all life loses some of its value. When I hear arguments like this it makes me cringe. I fear for the children I work with who have disabilities.

  • Darin_H

    No better and no worse than Casey Anthony – a girl’s got to party.

  • phaselus

    Like most issues, the stance of conservatives on abortion is fueled purely by emotion and ideology instead of practicality. Whether you like to admit it, a fetus is biologically dependent on the mother and is thus not a person with legal rights. There is a reason most folks don’t have funerals for miscarried babies.

    Fetuses lead the only kind of “life” that conservatives are in favor of. Once you’re out of the womb, you get no help. No healthcare, no assistance. Go off to war and fight. Arm yourself to the teeth. Rape the environment which supports us all.

    Pure idealism.

  • chipbennett

    I dearly hope all pro-aborts decide to state the same views. Then we can dispense with the inanity of debating whether a human zygote is an organism or not (yes, pro-aborts actually argue that a human zygote is not an “organism”), and focus on the real issue: the morality of placing the value of one life over another, and denying the most innocent and vulnerable of us the inalienable, God-given right to life.

  • westcoastpatriette

    Go away, communist troll.

  • PowerToThePeople

    Lets agree with you just for kicks and giggles and see if we understand what you mean.

    You say we are fueled by emotions when it comes to abortion. Do you mean emotions like the ones when you mom found out you were in her. Emotions like shame, regret, disgust? Just wondering?

    You talk about idealism, let me see if we use the word idealism the same way. Do you use it in the tense like what your mom used to feel when she thought you would grow up to do great things (Idealism) yet remained a moron. Is that the kind of idealism you are referring to?

    As to your tripe, ignorance runs deep in you does it not? I am willing to bet when you typed all that nonsense, you had a misplaced smug sense of superiority did you not? Hate to break it to you bub, you are insignificant, your lefty talking points are laughable, and you are and always will remain a moron.

  • phaselus

    I would be happy to engage in a meaningful conversation, but you jump straight to insulting me personally. You also try to discredit my opinion as “talking points”, when you just laid out the most orthodox of talking points possible. If you’d like to have a real conversation, let’s have it. Otherwise you are a negative force on political discourse.

  • Jack_Savage

    A three-month old is also dependent. So is a one year old. And a three year old. And many ninety year olds.

    Nice to see that your standard for legal rights and a life ripe for sacrificing is “dependency”. Thank you for being so honest, and best of luck when you reach that stage in your life. And it is always interesting that those most in favor of abortion can’t see the irony in the fact that they are alive to speak.

    We didn’t have a funeral, but we mourned for the two miscarriages we suffered. What a sickening and sad world view that you have.

    By the way – any children? Nieces or nephews? Didn’t think so.

  • Jack_Savage

    You’re not interested in discourse. You are a drive-by who gets all whiny when someone disagrees with him.

  • skorrent1

    Well, not really. After Roe v Wade, men became merely sperm donors with no authority over the consequences; even happy-to-be-father husbands. With lack of authority comes a diminished sense of responsibility. Responsibility comes only if the woman decides to have the baby and a judge says: “Pay up!” Exploding single motherhood results from the triple whammy of no-fault divorce, “daddy” govt welfare, and “a woman’s right” to abortion.

  • Bill S

    Heh. I looked at your user name and read it as “Phallus”. Then I read your comment and it confirmed it.

    Bye.

  • westcoastpatriette

    He’s a ghost, runner. But, I shared your disgust with him.

  • peregry

    I am certainly fine with 1 if the law is ever changed to reflect my beliefs that abortions are murder.

    However, this is nothing that can be done, legally, to folks who have an abortion, provided for an abortion or paid for an abortion while it is legal. If you do something when it is legal, and the law changes afterwards, you are not criminally liable for the action and cannot be made so. If a law was structured in such a way it would be an “Ex po factor” law, which is prohibited under the US Constitution (Article 1 Section 9).

    In short, the entire first argument you’re making is a strawman that is being used to demonize folks with a Pro-Life position. Nice try though, it sounds scary and all, but to bad that there’s such a clear stop against it that we tend to respect.

  • davesinsanantonio

    Or, current sharia law where a man can kill his wife for adultery, or a father can kill his daughter for marrying someone he disapproves of or not marrying someone he has selected for her, or for getting raped. Or, for converting to a different religion.

  • avgjo

    Yessir.

    I only chose the paterfamilias because the idea, as I understand it was, the man was the master of his domain, and that included his property, and those dependent on his property, just as the modern feminazis and Sanda Flukes of the world argue that the body is their property and the baby is dependent on that property, ergo they can kill the baby, just as the paterfamilias could.

  • avgjo

    Why should He if we won’t fight this with everything we have and if we can’t even clean our own churches, which represent Him, out? You’ve got pluralities, and even majorities of major denominations, as well as many non-denominational churches, voting for baby killers like Obama and his ilk.

  • avgjo

    Go away, Nazi.

    take your culture of death ethics somewhere else, To another country would be nice, freak.

  • avgjo

    It’s sort of hard to have a ‘meaningful conversation’ with someone who justifies baby-killing for the most tenuous of reasons.

  • Jack_Savage

    Dependency is the issue. And if the 3-month old becomes “inconvenient”, on what basis would you compel someone to take care of her? After all, this is about living the life you want without being “punished with a baby”.

  • romeg

    “What difference does it make? We have [n to the nth] dead Americans…”.

  • adair

    There was a Governor Lamb of Colorado (I think) who was in favor of euthanasia 30 years or so ago. He wasn’t completely pilloried because I believe it was to be the elderly, perhaps to keep them from using up all the Medicare and Soc.Sec. money. Oregon later decided it was okay because, well, sure, you have to really prove it’s necessary and voluntary and palliative and stuff. And you can’t just willy nilly assist a suicide.
    For years Ms. Williams and the other pro-abortion folks had to try to lay out a very noble, justifiable case against babies. Now it sounds like they’ve given in and decided to admit it’s been for convenience and isn’t really all that high-minded.

  • adair

    I so hope you’re right.

  • adair

    If some adults are “biologically dependent” upon government largesse and are thus not persons with legal rights, then what the heck are they doing voting?

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    Glad you liked it. Now get those abortuaries fired up. Faster! Faster!

  • bluedot

    I don’t accept the premise that every embryo is a human being. It seems to me that an egg the instant before fertilization clearly is not a human being; a baby the instant after birth clearly IS a human being; and one changes into the other by some kind of continuous process, where you can’t point to one instant where it “became a person”. The instant the egg is hit by a sperm doesn’t seem to me a better choice than other instants.
    But granting your premise that at SOME point the fetus IS a human being, I sitll don’t think the question is simple, because now you have two people claiming rights to one body, so two core values (autonomy and nonviolence) potentially conflict. Saying the fetus’s right to live is more important than the mother’s right to control her body is one solution, but notice that in other cases we usually think person A’s right to control his body takes precedence over person B’s right to continue living; so you dont, for example, HAVE to give someone your kidney, even if it would be completely safe for you and is the only way to prevent another person’s death. The thinking is that a right to your own body is primary, even more than your fellow citizens’ lives. That’s obviously not a perfect analogy for pregnancy (there ARE no analogies for pregnanacy), but it at least shows what I mean.

  • recentlyenlightened

    I agree wholeheartedly. However, I learned during those days long ago in college that I can not count on anybody but myself when it comes to something as monumentally important as this. A little slip up, even with the best of intentions, has the power to completely change 1 party’s life. The other party’s life may or may not change and may be only effected financially, not physically or emotionally, depending on circumstance. Like it or not, the woman’s stake in this situation is far higher than the man’s. It is unfortunate, to say the least.

  • plh

    True conservatives believe that the right to life of all human beings – dependent or not – is endowed by their Creator, not by the laws written by man.

  • plh

    I had to check. It means boat. Or kidney bean.

  • plh

    Not to be confused with the Fesarius of Star Trek fame. I had to check that, too.

  • plh

    One of the saddest, yet most revealing comments ever uttered by the President.

  • Jack_Savage

    I agree. And it went by with hardly a mention.

    Children ARE punishment to them, along with anything that prevents them from living the way they want to. Which is selfishly.

  • soljerblue

    Her attitude is exactly, precisely mine when it comes to the Second Amendment — and I have moral and spiritual support for my position; all she has is a smokescreen of lies.

  • soljerblue

    At an age when the little head controls the big head? Hmmm.

  • streiff

    nothing in here fo allows logically. I will note that I don’t have a problem with 1, which closely comports to what the laws in most states were pre-Roe, and I’d extend that to anyone involved from the receptionist to the driver. 2 already happens in a lot of places IRT drinking. 3 is a logic #FAIL.

    And as a bonus you get the heave-ho for trolling us

  • streiff

    sort of like you are dependent on us? In that case, your account has just been declared “an account no worth having.”