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The Tipping Point

There is no permanence in politics. Democrats patting themselves on the back at a job well done will at some point be drowning their sorrows in beer as Republicans again talk about their ridiculous fantasy of a permanent Republican majority (this time without steel tariffs).

People shift over time. Pendulums swing. And in the age of instantly lame ducked Presidents upon their swearing in for a second term, discord has ways of getting the best of any political party.

Conservatives who rallied to George W. Bush through No Child Left Behind, steel tariffs, Medicare Part D, Harriet Miers, etc. stood with him until the end. Many held on through TARP and the auto bailout and immigration, unable to see the fractures or trying to will them away. Now the GOP is dealing with the fall out of that legacy.

Consider the suspicion conservative groups have of Bush’s architect, Karl Rove, starting a new group supposedly to support “the most electable conservative”. Conservatives are still trying to work their way back out of the Republican Party and stand up on their own again.

With the 22nd amendment, a President’s second term is about securing his legacy. His party has no chance to throw him out in a third term primary. So the party rallies to make the best of it and help him secure his legacy. It happened with Reagan and Clinton and the second Bush. It is happening now with Barack Obama.

We should not ignore, though, that there is a disturbance in the Democratic force.

Progressives want to stick with Barack Obama because they perceive him as one of them and expect he will push their progressive agenda as best he can. But some progressives are deeply worried about his drone war. They are worried about civil liberties. They are worried that he is, and in fact he really is, to the right of George W. Bush on this issue. The progressive agenda conflicts with his civil liberties stance.

This is but one example. If the President pushes forward with any entitlement reforms or anything else that looks to be in the direction of the GOP, the fractures will exacerbate. If he does not, he risks the public who supposedly wants compromise looking at him as too uncompromising in the same way they’ve looked at the GOP. He cannot afford the public getting tired of him, but he also cannot afford his party growing weary of his positions.

This all puts him in a precarious position. Made worse, as he adds new faces to his cabinet, he is not adding men of particular policy depth, but more men of the same persuasion. That will lessen debate. That will lessen the ability to think outside narrow parameters.

In second terms, people grow weary who have been there a while. The A team gets replaced by the B team, which in turn gets replaced by the C team. Then you get Iran Contra, blue dresses in the Oval Office, U.S. Attorneys being fired in suspicious looking ways, etc. The President has tried to make an academic study of how not to have a bad second term. The problem is his policies will not be up for debate within his own party. His legacy will be preserved. Then, in 2016, it will be Democratic Party voters who will be forced into a great sorting as they decide whether to stay the course or fight over a new one.

Permanent majorities are fleeting. The coalition that swept him into office and kept him there is not yet the Democrats’ coalition. They do not consider themselves Democrats, but progressives. They are not of one mind on all issues. And all those issues will be at stake in 2016.

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  • davesinsanantonio

    We can certainly hope your analysis is correct, or better. But, we cannot live on hope alone. We must also work to secure not only good conservative candidates for our side, but to work even harder to set up the GOTV mechanism that will actually GOTV, not fail mightily at the last minute. But, you know all that. What we really need is to work now to get all conservatives on board, and to keep them motivated to actually get off their butts and vote this time. But, you know that too. Here’s hoping we succeed with all we need to do.

  • OhioHistorian

    The problem with this President is also the people who put him there. Both terms are the failure of the cognoscienti in the party and in the media who elected a “blank slate progressive”. The people need to turn on their media and the progressives and demand that these police themselves. However, we have now spawned a whole set of voters who get their mis-information from the media and then vote for the candidate that the “king-makers” push. Like certain in the Republican party, there is insanity in the progressives also because they will not recognize that they are destroying this society and this country with this President and his/their policies.

    I can only hope that we will see the Progressives go the way of the 1920′s.

  • joanofargghh

    Obama’s A team was a C team. He’s now surrounding himself with the most corrupt, old, inept, white-guilted Liberals just to prove that he doesn’t need them to run the regime. They’re all puppets anyway. His hand is filled with Eric Holder and Valerie Jarrett.

    Valerie Jarrett. She runs the country. She evades, avoids, and deflects scrutiny, even by the best. Her name, her background, her agenda, her face all need to be as recognizable as Obama’s. The Dems need to see who their leader really is.

  • David

    Erick, here’s where you missed the boat- Conservatives left George W., when he started talking amnesty with John McCain, before the auto bailout, before TARP and only liberal Republicans like yourself cared one whit about Harriet Miers.
    Conservatives are really tired of moderate and liberal Republicans towing the party to the left to try to nominate the “most conservative” candidate possible… Conservatives are really tired of Ike’s “Big Tent”; it became a circus tent with Nixon and the liberals haven’t left. They sit around and complain that the Republican party needs to be more open, needs to drop it’s support of Life and adopt a policy of amnesty… Youre doing it here.
    So, if you really want to convince everyone that we ought to applaud Karl Rove’s new efforts- you should go back to the Democrat party. It’s where you belong.
    I’m not backing out. I belong here. You go. Got it? Need I continue?

  • gscandlen

    FWIW, I spent last weekend with 7 men, all retired, white, conventionally liberal. I was stunned to discover the unabashed adulation they have for Obama — the most brilliant man ever to be president, perhaps to walk the earth, he doesn’t need advisers because he knows more than any could. This is far beyond the devotion Democrats had even to FDR. This truly is a cult of personality worthy of North Korea. When Newsweek talks about the Second Coming, they aren’t kidding.

    What we are dealing with here is far beyond politics as usual.

  • texashistorian

    Wow. that’s a tad harsh there, especially considering that Erick has been leading the criticism here on RS about Rove’s new efforts. If you spent a little more time reading here, you’d know RS has been anything but favorable towards the “architects” newest building disaster.

  • Jim_Riggs

    You need to get a grip.

  • Jack_Savage

    That is exactly right. I truly believe the left longs for Kings / Dictators, and they have finally found one. There can be no argument or discussion with people who are utterly in love.
    The only thing we have to bank on is that the left is also in love with themselves, and if any of them feel jilted or that their place in the sun is being diminished they will start to talk. It won’t affect anything politically, but it will be interesting.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Ike’s big tent didn’t involve abandoning principles, it involved having no real Conservative principles in the first place.

    Reagan’s big tent is what we need to replicate. Sunny optimism to ward off gloomy malaise appeals to everyone.

  • neolib

    We must have different liberal friends. I have some severely leftie friends, and they have a litany of issues where they disagree with Obama:

    -The use of drone strikes has been appalling to them

    -They want single-payer healthcare, not Obamacare

    -They want Guantanamo closed

    -They want us out of Afghanistan

    -They want the patriot act and electronic eavesdropping ended
    I could go on, but the the point is that they only support Obama because they see the Republican alternative as worse.

  • http://www.mattmodleski.com mattmodleski

    I am a retired AF Officer and Conservative. I was disgusted with Medicare Part D and ever increasing spending under George W. I voted for him the second time holding my nose (I liked the man as a person, but not some of the policies he was talked into) because of the upcoming Supreme Court vacancies.
    George W. was guilty of surrounding himself with right of center hawks and they dominated the policy making. Any true strategist would have looked at an optional war in Iraq from a leadership and foreign policy perspective and determined it was bad idea. To be honest I said so at the time. If the strategy of “fear” (Hussein’s strategy) is going to replaced by some other strategy, the new strategy must trump the old one if it is to hold a nation together that wants to behave like three different and very distinct states (make that three states that hate one another to the point of killing each other). The war in Afghanistan was necessary in the wake of 9-11 but anyone who reads the military history of Afghanistan would come away thinking the biggest mistake a nation might make in an Afghan conflict (with limited and difficult to achieve objectives) would be inserting a large ground force.
    The important point that I think Erick is correct in asserting is that when you surround yourself with folks of the same ideology (in business or Government) no one dissents. No one makes you argue for your idea, no one is there to make you better. The result is an echo chamber that moves you too far from what most Americans want which is a government that doesn’t meddle and doesn’t appear to favor their donors at the opposition’s expense. Barrack Obama will fail miserably in this regard (though the media will make this very hard to see). The challenge for Conservative Americans is that they don’t have a party right now, all we have is a smaller version of self-centered crony capitalists who take care of their own donors and who act like little Democrats and spend a little less. The most important virtues for the Republicans to find between now and 2014 (and 2016) are integrity and humility. Americans despise Republicans not because they don’t talk about the right things, it’s because they don’t do the right things when they are in power.

  • commonsenseobserver

    W’s original proposal which included greater choice and competition was far better, but it was watered down, even though HSAs were saved and other innovations survive to control costs in the program. But he did drop the ball on spending, and while achieving a little progress on deficit reduction, failed to fight for stricter restraint to mend the roof while the sun was shining. Indeed, he dismantled many Congressional Republicans’ roofs.

    The point is that there was a credible threat of Hussein possessing WMDs, harboring terrorists, and slaughtering his own people. Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, I’d argue that they failed to have an exit strategy, and they didn’t send in enough troops or plan adequately at first, which undermined the fight all the way. A realistic foreign policy must recognize, above all else, that while war should never be the first resort, and we must not be trigger-happy, peace only comes through strength.

  • macbookben

    I agree with this analysis. But I am afraid the voting public wouldn’t acknowledge sunny optimism if it walked up to them and punched’em in the nose.

  • sliverlining

    “the age of instantly lame ducked Presidents upon their swearing in for a second term”

    Erick,
    The amount of good or evil that can be done when there is no tomorrow is sometimes staggering. Your statement points out the phenomenon nicely. It doesn’t seem like it was always so taken for granted as it is now. Mostly inappropriately, too, in my opinion.
    The assumed impotence by some of the lame duck is yet another sign that the masses are asses.

    They need to try to corner a critter in the kitchen to shoo it back outside. That critter, whatever its size, will hurt you. It doesn’t know that you’re trying to help or hurt so it throws caution to the wind. What’s it got to lose from the perspective of being surrounded by possible enemies?

    Flip it around. Try to protect something from an intruder that REALLY wants the thing you protect. Maybe NEEDS it from their perspective. Again, caution to the wind, nothing to lose, regardless of size will hurt you.

    Lame? Maybe faking it a bit . . . Duck.

  • major

    “they will not recognize that they are destroying this society and this country with this President and his/their policie.”
    Are you kidding me?
    That is their objective!

  • major

    “we are in serious trouble for 2014″
    Nope.
    It will be the biggest fight yet.
    It will NOT be easy for the establishment OR us.
    The message needs to be pushed BY the grassroots!
    And that is more in action, than in words.
    The war with the states, is what they will face.

  • jaykali

    Can’t wait for the worm to turn. I hate that the media will continue to prop him up as long as they can. And his approval rating is really high right now. We are probably a year or 2 away from the bottom falling out if it ever does.

  • Chris

    Sunny optimism would be great (and welcomed by everyone, like you said), but even here you’re more likely to hear about the need to stock up on guns to prepare for the coming economic collapse than you are to hear about how our best days are still ahead of us. I worry that at some point it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

  • Guest

    Erick has others on his same side on this issue:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/07/Brennan-Nomination-to-CIA-Offers-Rare-Chance-for-Bipartisan-Unity–in-Opposition?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Feed%29

  • major

    Erick has others in agreement!

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/02/07/Brennan-Nomination-to-CIA-Offers-Rare-Chance-for-Bipartisan-Unity–in-Opposition?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BreitbartFeed+%28Breitbart+Feed%29

  • Chris

    This is my exact experience as well. I knew some liberals who felt that way about Obama back in 2008, but its been years since I’ve seen feelings like those. It feels a lot more like an ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ type of situation, where liberals support Obama’s policies largely because the GOP is opposed to them, with Obamacare being the perfect example. I don’t think anyone actually likes the Affordable Care Act as its written.

  • rosenstern

    Nice to think about the other side’s problems for awhile! I think that the Dem’s prospects in 2016 turn very much on the decision of Hilary Clinton. If she runs I suspect that much of the current O coalition will coalesce around her for historic reasons BUT if she does not, I believe their weak talent bench will be exposed ESPECIALLY in comparison to the strength of our own.

  • commonsenseobserver

    More phoniness from the person going to deliver the SOTU response and stab us in the back in 2016.

  • commonsenseobserver

    That’s what happens when you have Barack Obama in the White House and Marco Rubio apparently leading us (and projecting a lot of sunny ambition while at it, but not optimism, not to mention substance).

  • reddog76

    I want a bumper sticker “I know Jack Schitt”.

  • Kyle-MI

    There is long term danger, enormous danger in the Obama 2nd term. It’s name is the Supreme Court. If any of the conservatives on the court retires or dies, our Constitution is effectively shredded. There may be some who think it is already the case, but you have not seen anything yet. Our liberty is hanging by a thread. If the court is packed by extremist liberals it won’t matter who controls the Senate or who we elect President.

  • WY_Cowboy

    The only comment I will make is that, with all of the challenges described by EE, at least Obama can thank his lucky stars that he has John Boehner to kick around, and around, and around again, and again, and again.

  • rationalanalyst2

    From some of the comments posted here; I can see why the label, “The Party of Stupid,” is being applied to the GOP. Eric is just trying to raise some of the critical issues facing the Party; and, in so doing, trying to get people to THINK! Yet, that same stupid mentality continues to surface; and, at the first sign of a differing – - or even an expanded thought; some are quick to throw him/her, under the Bus.
    After 35 years as a GOP supporter; I don’t know who they are anymore. Does anyone? The RW Crazies have absolutley no use for anyone either, inside – - or, outside, the Party that has opinions that differ from theirs. That kind of rigidity is not healthy for a Participatory Democracy. It is the kind of position that could easily split the Party in two; or; even cause some to bolt to the other Side. Maybe some will go inactive – - like in the Election of 2012 – - waiting for Unity and Sanity to return to the Party.
    I just don’t see how the GOP can bounce back in 2016; when so many are hell bent on destroying their own. As an Independent; does the RW realize how, stupid, and uncompromising they look?

  • reddog76

    MattM is worth reading.!! My problem with electively creating war in Iraq is how do we choose just that one country ? N Korea, Pakistan, India all have major WMDs, Nukes, N Korea treats it’s people very badly !!, to point of starving. Civil war and genocide in many African nations, out of SO many bad actors, why was Saddam so much worse ? We had a moral right and world support to take him out and finish job when he electively invaded Kuwait 1991, but not later. (2003, eve of invading Iraq, never before in the entire history of mankind, has one person ever been so protested as GWB, albeit modern Instantaneous news must also play a part), and we rushed out of focusing on Afghanistan, finishing that first, stretching our voluntary military force to the breaking point, way, way too many redeployments due to lack of numbers of soldiers available. Yes, indeed, I think history points all the way back to Alexander the Great and no one has won a war in Afghanistan, it’s nothing but mountains and caves and sand and a very leathery tough people who can disappear in that rugged terrain and live on nothing more than sand, it seems. Iraq, what a terrible elective expenditure in lives, PTSD veterans who too many are now committing suicide to the point of one every 15 minutes ?? I’m not sure from memory, but just saw that terrible statistic recently, and of course, from the party claiming to be the hawks on spending, we seem like hypocrites when it comes to military expenses. Always more, more, more, even tho right now we spend a minimum of 15x more on military than any other developed nation. Change of subject: So, how do we elect someone like Mitt R. when primaries demand a very conservative stance, and then the closer we get to Election Day, the more moderate the candidate must be to get enough votes ?? He ended up flip flopping all over the place solely tailoring his message by 10 minute segments changing aim for every target audience of the moment ?? Last fall campaign, I couldn’t help but be reminded of old saying “If we don’t stand for something, we will fall for anything”. Mitt changed his stance so often, we didn’t know what to count on for a stand. I wonder how the dichotomous primary vs fall campaign trail tactics can be blended better next time around ????

  • romeg

    While preserving his Legacy seems like a sound and reasoned argument for why Obama might want to hew to a more centrist line, are narcissistic personalities really that keenly aware of how they are perceived or responsive to those perceptions? I think not.

    BHO is so supremely confident that he is absolutely right about everything he says and does that I find it highly unlikely that he is even aware of disquiet amongst his party loyalists, let alone sensitive to it. Furthermore, he goes to great lengths to surround himself with ‘Yes’ men, the lone exception thus far being Leon Panetta, that not even his inner circle will warn him when he is on thin ice.

    His “Rationale” or “Justification” for taking out American citizens with drones is the perfect example of his hubris. Not that I’m not in favor of hunting down ANY enemy of the U.S. on FOREIGN soil and taking them out by whatever means is available; but this is the guy that called the use of armed drones into question in the strongest possible terms while he was a Senator. But that was then. This is now.

    So impervious is this guy to sound reasoning that he will go his own way and regardless of how historians treat him and his legacy, he and his cronies, to his dying breath, will defend his every act and action and vilify any who say otherwise.

  • Locked and Loaded

    From reading your commenting history, I wonder why one of the moderators hasn’t thrown your trolling self out of here long before now. Participatory democracy, Time magazine? Uh, do you realize how stupid you look (are)?

    You are not a Republican, and you are advocating a move away from Conservatism. You don’t belong here, so shove off.

    Here’s hoping Moe, Neil, or streiff will help you do it sooner.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    G’bye (nt)

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Killing terrorists isn’t a left/right thing. It’s a spineless wimp/fighter for liberty thing.

  • gscandlen

    Perhaps the difference is that I would not describe my guys as “severely leftie.” They are pretty conventional, have worked in DC on the Hill and in federal agencies, and then for trade associations where they made big bucks. They were astonished that I actually own some guns. We had to stop at a Wal-Mart to pick up some supplies and they had never even set foot in a Wal-Mart parking lot before (I took photos and threatened to tell their friends). They are pretty cynical about politics, so I was all the more surprised at the Obamadulation.

  • Sir Aaron

    “Permanent majorities are fleeting.”

    I’m sure that will be of great comfort to Californians.

  • mogul264

    In all of the countries you cited, the fact remains that only ONE, India, has not quarreled with America to the point of military action! They, alone, tried to keep Pakistan from getting nuclear weapons; we didn’t help.

    Pakistan is the nation in that area creating the most intrusions, aggression, and saber-rattling. Precisely why I am not sure, but suspect it has to do with the disputed Kashmir province as much as any.

    India has been a bastion of moderation in the area since they divested themselves from Great Brittain. We have offered little or no help to them; they have essentially raised themselves by their own bootstraps

    We should increase our support of India, and reduce it to Pakistan. The former would appreciate it. The latter certainly does NOT!

  • Chris

    To be fair, I think most people involved in politics or government sometimes fantasize about how much easier certain things would be if they could cut all the red tape in one swipe, like a dictator could. President Bush (the second) had a great quote about that, which I don’t totally remember offhand. It totally freaked out a bunch of liberals at the time, who saw it as a sign of an upcoming coup.

  • sliverlining

    Throw mama from the train!

    The Anne Ramsey character just needs Danny DeVito’s advice. He seems like a sober fellow.

    I hope she runs. Helen Thomas is the only person I can think of that makes her look good.

  • nosurrender

    Republicans need to be very cautious, any premature move to impeach Obama would be likely to be seen as a partisan witch hunt, and boost Obama’s standing and damage the GOP.
    Remember how the effort to impeach Clinton ended up boosting Clinton’s standing in the polls to 68%, the highest during his term in office. We need to learn from our mistakes.

  • notpropagandized

    The problem is that the battlefield has been sliding leftward for our lifetime. Only a revolution will move the needle toward proper Constitutional governance. The so-called pendulum doesn’t even swing over traditional territory anymore.

    Liberal governance is chaos. It used to be conservative and not-as-conservative. It’s a shame that conservative governance has resisted some reforms along the way and that should force us all to focus like a laser on Liberty and Justice and reject the sin of lust/greed for power and perpetuity.

  • rightlane1111

    Know what offends me? I am a Conservative…so that makes me, as the MSM has referred to me…a terrorist, a crazy, a racist, a bigot, unstable, uncompromising (which, btw…that seems that is all the GOP can do, principles be damned)looney and the list goes on ad finitum.

    So…we are crazy because we find out that one of the “painted” Conservatives of the GOP, Karl Rove, made a bundle off of the campaign but was not concerned with the outcome. We learn that he does not want the supposed “crazies” running for anything (example…Ted Cruz). He wants Republicans just like the ones in office…you know…like Boehner and McConnell. How have either helped us out? But then…I am crazy to ask. According to rationalanaylst…We should just shut up and “trust” the elitist GOP.

    We have some very good representatives…the problem is…we don’t have enough of them.

    We’re crazy because we wanted to stop the spending, spending, spending. That makes us crazy? The debt is $17T. We want the Constitution upheld…we are crazy??? We want honesty…we are crazy?? Yet, if we do not tow the line and agree with every single thing that McConnell/Boehner/Reid/Pelosi/Obama want…we are crazy and uncompromising.

    We stand for the Constitution…so Mr. Rationalanayst…that makes those writers of that document crazy also…it makes our great presidents crazy also…it makes every amendment nutty.

    Continually calling us names appears to me like you have been boning up on Rules For Radicals and applying that technique to the people that truly do love this country.

  • adair

    “It’d be a lot easier if this were a dictatorship …. as long as I was the dictator.”

  • Viet71

    Excellent diary. Correct on every point of observation.

  • ihateliberals

    The problem with this President is not the President but the people that elected him. Here is a quote from a Prague News Paper:

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a
    man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the
    follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and
    good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their
    president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who
    is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should
    not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.
    The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It
    is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him
    their president.”

  • http://www.mattmodleski.com mattmodleski

    Thanks for the kind words on the post reddog. I believe America will follow a true leader, one who lives what he/she says. This leader must be able to articulate the value in smaller Government (which most would agree is something like “I don’t want the things you believe in forced upon me when your party is in power”). Think of how well that played after George W. (can you say “hope and change”) or how well it might play after Obama’s lurch to the left. I do not believe that this leader will rise from the establishment, there is simply too much mistrust in someone who’s spent their life in “one party or the other” and talks about their party instead of talking about America first.

  • reddog76

    Rationalanalyst2, thank you for rational thoughts. I believe what you are referring to is “The 25% Fact Resistant Base” who only get their news from one source, period, Fox News. Rather than have just one news source make my mind up for me and likely lead me astray with a bias, I read and listen to news sources from around the world, gain a larger view and make my own mind up. CNN, CBS, ABC, of course, and Jerusalem Post from Israel, BBC, Russia Today, and believe it or not, Al Jazeera has earned my respect for getting news stories that we never hear of here, like about Bison in North Dakota, current happenings in S. America. They aren’t just Muslim mid-east journalists, but journalists from all around the world work for them. Also from a Native American news source and Messianic Jewish news sources. What we all need to avoid is ANY news source whose main manipulation is emotional fear Mongering. Any time we get Chicken Little “The sky is falling, the sky is falling !!” kind of news stories wanting us to knee jerk in to action based on fickle emotions, we need to pause and say, “Hey, they are trying to Chicken Little me, and I am not falling for it !!!” Being more discerning would help this country a lot to weed out the “Chicken Little” news sources, and talking head pundits who intentionally mislead via emotional responses. Turn them off, watch their ratings fall, smile and feel wiser with a broad spectrum of news sources.

  • http://www.mattmodleski.com mattmodleski

    Think of all the places in the world that meet the criteria you laid out in the second paragraph above….Syria being the easiest to see currently. Leadership requires consistency, our allies want to know where they stand and they want to know when we’ll engage and when we won’t. I used to tell people even if they had a bad boss, as long as he/she was consistently bad you could do good work for them once you figured where they were coming from. America is by nature not an offensive minded nation. We are tough, but generally speaking as a people we prefer to be so tough that no one picks a fight. Reagan understood our psyche, built a military that scared the heck out of our adversaries and used it very sparingly. Leaders understand their people and the Republican establishment doesn’t understand the people who best represent what they claim to believe, therefore in the election of our lifetime, many of them simply stayed home and we lost to a very beatable incumbent. Many, many Americans are uncomfortable with Barack Obama, their choice this election cycle was him, or an Investment Banker (who may have been one of the best men, strength of character wise, to ever run for office). I understand Investment Banks somewhat and don’t trust their political influence or the securitizaion of consumer credit as a product. It didn’t take long for the opposition to “kill Romney” and then there was nothing left to “vote for.”

  • illannoy

    I consider me right wing. I’m pro-life, pro-2nd amendment, anti-stupid regulation of business, language and behavior, pro-DOMA (is it still in effect?), strongly anti-open borders and further illegal immigration, pro-keeping good minds here after college by extending their visas, pro-Right to Work, anti-confiscatory taxes on anyone, pro-drilling on Federal lands and offshore and deepwater and shale and tar sands for as much oil and natural gas as God gave us, anti-corn/ethanol additives, anti-PETA and HSUS and breed-specific dog legislation, anti-fluoride (uh-oh) in the water when it’s already in most dentifrices, pro-meat, vegetables,fruit and cookies, pro-recycling paper, plastic, aluminum, zinc and glass, pro-hydroelectric power from dams and ancillary irrigation of farmland without worrying too much about snail darters if their environment interferes with that of humans, pro-timber operations handled sensibly by the likes of Weyerhauser and other pro-real-conservation entities, strongly anti-”pathway to citizenship” for illegals until the backlog of legal immigrants — the ones who come here to BE Americans — has been completely cleared, and the borders completely secure and not just “certified” so, pro-reprinting textbooks from the 40′s and 50′s and making sure another several generations aren’t kept from knowing what makes America unique and wonderful and making sure they can read, write, spell and use correct English grammar and add, subtract, multiply, divide and keep a checkbook balanced, and I guess all that and more makes me a rigid right wing crazy. Oh, and I’m a TEApartier, too.

  • illannoy

    Gee you said it so much more succinctly!

  • illannoy

    “If we did, we’d get the Democrats to support border security with teeth…”
    They wouldn’t, because they don’t.

  • adair

    The triumverate of Kerry, Brennan and Hagel would give the President his ardent wish, as stated in his inaugural address: Peace in our time.

  • sliverlining

    Sir Aaron,
    You are right. It will be . . . someday . . . maybe.

  • gunnyg2002

    The Gimme-Dats will ALWAYS vote for the Gimme-crats. The 47% is zombie-like and growing.

  • Jack_Savage

    Listen to Friedman for more than ten minutes and you will get the unsettling feeling that he would love to say something along these lines, but has the good sense not to.

  • Jack_Savage

    It really almost makes me feel sorry for people who have so much of their lives and emotions wrapped up in someone they don’t even know. It has helped me understand why some horrible things in history were allowed to happen under the noses of people who one would consider sane and rational.

  • runner12

    Very well written. I totally agree.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    In war, due process is aiming before you shoot.

  • PowerToThePeople

    Amen, perfectly stated. Not sure why so many do not understand that once you pick up a weapon against this country, citizen or not, on foreign shores, your due process is over. You are the enemy, you will be killed if possible. The only way you avoid that is to lay down your weapon, raise your hands, carry a white flag, and surrender. Until you do that, killing you by any means is our goal.

  • WmCraig

    It feels like what you are saying is we don’t need to work to repair the damage that Obama has done, simply wait for the winds to change. I think that is a bad idea.

  • billcor

    Not sure what your comment means since Zer0′s “kill list” memo SPECIFICALLY authorizes the murder of US citizens even when they are “not considered an imminent threat” NOR “actively engaged in any specific plot”. This isn’t a shooting war with a battlefield Neil. This is our government killing people IT THINKS might SOMEDAY attack the country.

    The founding fathers specifically set up due process FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS, to avoid this kind of Executive as King nonsense. Your response doesn’t take any of that into account.

    Hannity’s been shouting about this since the memo came out, and trying to get the word out. Why are so many conservatives OK with Zer0 being able to kill Americans _without_ any form of review?

  • billcor

    Read my response above. The POINT is that the memo authorizes the murder of American Citizens even when they are
    “not considered an imminent threat” NOR “actively engaged in any
    specific plot”.

    These aren’t idiots storming some hill, this is American Citizens not in active combat. The Hallowed 0ne wants to be able to kill them WITHOUT any checks on his power to do so. because he and his clowns determine them to be a threat.

    If he wants that HE SHOULD RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION and follow due process!

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    You’re completely wrong on that.

    Something that is not an imminent threat is still a threat. Saddam Hussein was a threat to us, even if he wasn’t an imminent threat.

    A sleeper cell of terrorists is a threat, if not an imminent threat.

    Someone at an Al Qaeda training camp is not an imminent threat, but is certainly part of an (illegal) fighting force against us, waging war.

    That ‘not an imminent threat’ stuff was hogwash when the Communists at International ANSWER pushed it under Bush, and it’s hogwash when Obama’s opponents push it now.

  • billcor

    Fine, I agree.There are many ways to be a threat without being on a battlefield with a gun.

    BUT If this US CITIZEN is such a serious threat that you want to KILL THEM without TRIAL, You should be able to make the case to a reviewing body ( be that a judicial review that signs off on your assassination of an American Citizen. ) or a military tribunal, SOMEONE.

    ( Not just your buddy Eric “Fast & Furious” Holder , or your pal Hilly Clinton.)

    THAT’S THE POINT. The Founders were VERY SPECIFIC about this, Neil, having lived under a king’s tyranny firsthand.

    I’m not prepared to take Zer0′s word on this. “Trust me. That American was a terrorist. No, I couldn’t be bothered to show proof to anyone, I just ordered him dead. Just trust me.” Oh. Come. On.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    You want to let politics make us less safe.

    I hope you’re not in the next 9/11, if we get your way.

  • joehatfield37

    The coalition that swept Barry into office twice was not really a democrat coalition……but a “Barry” coalition.

  • billcor

    “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
    - Benjamin Franklin

    That dead white guy is still right. And this death by KING N0bama crap is still wrong.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    That quote is irrelevant to this discussion on both points, but thanks for playing. Good thing most Republicans are actually serious about being on America’s side.

  • PowerToThePeople

    I could care less what the memo authorizes, once a citizen of this country gives aid or comfort to the enemy, he or she is our enemy. They must be taken out whether on the battlefield or between battles. They have no more rights as a citizen. This is not new territory nor is Obama the first to implement this.

    If you want to bitch about Obama, there is an infinite amount of things to keep you busy for a long long time. But on this, do not make yourself out to be a fool. It is his job to order war, and once our citizens declare war on us, they are no longer protected by anything other than how well they can hide, how fast they can run, and how strong their skin is when the projectiles hit.

  • conservativemusician

    Hasn’t Obama already come out against enforced border security? Even if the Dems did support it, Obama would veto it. Obama smells blood now and he is holding out for a “clean” amnesty bill without border security measures, especially since public opinion is shifting toward legalization.

  • commonsenseobserver

    With no strings attached and a path to citizenship?

    Over our dead bodies.

    The DREAMers and grandmas and those who have stayed here for more than a decade should have a chance to earn probationary legal status and maybe citizenship, with strict conditions. But the rest should not be able to leap ahead of others, and definitely not on American soil, towards American citizenship.

  • conservativemusician

    While I admire your optimism, I mostly disagree with your analysis Erick. If society now was more reminiscent of the world in which we both grew up, when basic common sense was a more regular part of everyday life, then I would agree with the majority of what you are saying. However, at this point after two straight elections where the electorate has now expanded to include millions more of those sheeplike individuals who are so easily swayed by hype, cult of personality, race baiting, fear mongering, and outright lies, I find what you are saying to be based on wishful thinking and anecdotal evidence (especially your last paragraph, which is particularly naive). We saw a lot of this type of analysis leading up to the election last year, but it didn’t take into account how far this country has lurched to the left and how the most moronic and uninformed among us are now the true driving force in our politics. In the words of comedian Ron White, “You can’t fix stupid”.

    There may very well be a “…disturbance in the Democratic force” as you said, but this is temporary. In the end, Dems always show up when it counts – at the ballot box – unlike conservatives who did not and have not in the last two presidential elections for primarily selfish reasons. The biggest advantage the Dems have is their ability to get their base out and as long as we have a significant part of our base sitting it out, then I don’t see how we will ever win back the presidency, hold the House, or take back the Senate – especially with amnesty waiting in the wings and both parties eager to sign off on it.

  • conservativemusician

    Be careful what you ask for.

    Obama’s novelty was that he was the first black guy to be nominated. Lots of people voted for him simply because they wanted to feel like they were a part of history in the making. In spite of her repulsiveness on so many levels, Hillary has a similar draw in that she would be the first woman to ever be the nominee and you can believe that the media would play this up to the hilt. This would trump Rubio’s calling card as the first Hispanic to get the GOP nomination in my view.

    Prediction: if Hillary runs, she wins.

  • Joe Cor

    One problem with this analysis is that we’re in all likelihood going to live in fully Obamacared world by 2016. Thus, even if the Republicans were to mount a comeback, they will be governing in an Obamacare world. The restaurant will have been permanently altered; the only battle left will be for which waiters serve us.
    Another problem with this analysis is that the media has changed. Since they figured out in 1992 that by abandoning all pretense to objectivity they can get their kind of guy elected, the old political equations no longer apply. Admittedly, Republicans squeeked by in 2000 and 2004 with the aid of a couple acts of random journalism (Gore’s debate performance, Memogate), and an unbelievably fortuitous electoral college outcome in 2000, but Obama has if anything benefited from an even more stridently partisan media. Any bad thing about him is immediately swept under the rug and a cult of his awesomness grows. This guy doesn’t have the presensence of JFK or Reagan, for goodness sake. He’s a prissy punk, but he’s got a cult following nevertheless. If the media can do this for Barry, and are now accomplishing the same for Hillary of all people, what is to stop them? And if they can take a nice fellow, charitable, good family man, squeaky-clean in every way, and turn him into a monster, what’s to keep them from Romneying the next Republican challenger also?
    Which brings us to the third problem with your analysis, which is the Republican Party. They are clueless about what to do about the media, and almost indifferently clueless. Their idea of battling the Democrats and the media is to negotiate with them, try to look harmless and cuddly, start a repackaging initiative,and hold a couple of polite votes now and then, preferably a “no” vote in a losing effort — but at all costs show their Democrat/media overlords the respect that is their due. There is no battle of ideas or for the hearts and minds of the voters anymore. There is Democrat/media attack followed by Republican react. Republicans are passive and scared, and show it.
    The pendulum swings left, inches imperceptibly right, swings even further left, swings even less imperceptibly right. Democrats I’m sure are fine with a few disturbances in their own force, and even an Obama administration that runs aground in its second term, because the pendulum basically only swings one way any more. The one thing that might really change things is a new Republican party, one that had the nerve to stop Obamacare while there’s still time and stand up to the media to their face and contradict them. But that would take a totally new party leadership, one capbable of thinking outside of the incredibly narrow box they’ve errected around themselves. And since half or more of the conservative intelligentsia (another problem) think the Republican leaders are still more-or-less totally awesome fellows who are being unfairly criticized by the conservative base, what is the chance of that?

  • David

    Why? What have you to offer?

  • David

    You wouldn’t know from this article. My action here will have an effect Erick is a good guy stuck in the echo chamber. So, If I don’t slap him and wake him up, who will? You, Mr. “Tad bit harsh”? How about Jim_Riggs? I’d like to get a grip around his neck, silly jackwagon…

  • David

    Republicans relied on a liberal judas in that fight. Arlen “Majic Bullet” Specter should never have been allowed to join the Republican Party. What can you expect from a turncoat except to betray you?
    The only mistake was not taking the chairmanship away from Specter when he voted against impeaching Clinton. That’s the lesson. Impeachment was the right thing and long overdue…

  • David

    Prissy punk indeed. Sorry I missedt last week.

  • Bill S

    You obviously cannot work and play well with others, as this and your prior commenting history demonstrates. Take a hike, junior.

  • Bill S

    More than you.

  • texashistorian

    Thanks, Bill. Saves me the trouble of a reply which was probably not worth the time to write, anyway.