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Why is Bipartisanship a One-Way Street?

We really need to make Republican members of Congress sign a pledge that they will not engage in gang violence against the party.  This secretive bipartisan gang work is getting out of hand.

While working on ways to stop the hemorrhaging in our party from the Schumer/Rubio amnesty gang, I discovered today that Senator Coburn is working with a Democrat gang to advance a universal background check law.  To my knowledge, this news came as a surprise to his fellow conservatives in the Senate as well.  Who is he working with?  Among others, Chuck Schumer!  What in the world does Chuck Schumer have over the heads of senators from some of the most conservative states?

In recent years, individual Republican members have embarked on a Benedict Arnold approach to legislating by granting cover for squishy Republicans and red state Democrats to support bills that would otherwise never pass.  Instead of working openly with fellow conservatives to draft a statement of principles on the issue at hand, these ‘gangsters’ work in secret with the most liberal members to chart a path for 60 members to pass bad legislation.  All too often, these members back away at the last moment and vote against the proposal, something I’m sure Marco Rubio will eventually do with the amnesty bill, but not after the damage had already been done.

What on earth would impel Senator Coburn to give cover for red state Democrats to pass broader unconstitutional gun bills?  This year we have a unique dynamic in which there are a record number of Democrats who stand for reelection in states that oppose gun control (and almost everything else on the Obama/Reid agenda).  These Democrats cannot be caught dead voting for an “assault weapons” ban.  Yet, by giving them an opening to sign onto a more mellifluous-sounding proposal like universal background checks, they will have the cover to oppose the other harsher amendments, while signing the fate of the final bill.

Like all gun-control measures, universal background checks will only empower a voracious anti-gun administration to aggressively pursue gun shows and gun owners for violations of unconstitutional laws, while doing nothing to deal with the root cause of violence.  This will be the first step in creating a national gun registry, granting unchecked power to the ATF – a criminal agency if we’ve ever seen one.    It’s a solution in pursuit of a problem.  As long as blue states continue to pass feeble anti-crime laws and politically correct guidelines for dealing with the mentally ill who are dangerous, no degree of background checks will prevent mass shootings.  The southern California shooter proves that.  They certainly will not prevent the every-day violent crime that plagues the inner cities in blue states.  The reality is that criminals and those with dangerous mental illnesses will always be able to obtain ‘undocumented’ guns (after all, we could never deport every illegal gun; let’s just give them amnesty and call it a day).

But fear not, Joe Manchin, who has shown himself to be a radical leftist until election season comes around, has proposed a grand idea to the gang.  He wants to form a commission on “how our culture has gotten so desensitized toward violence.”

Seriously, it would be nice for Senator Manchin to man-up and campaign on the agenda he seeks to pursue when he’s out of West Virginia.

As for our guys, this is really getting old.  We have a man representing a state where every county voted against Obama who is helping Democrats get their collective foots in the door on gun control.  We had Senator Crapo from Idaho co-sponsoring this week’s expansion of the deceptively-named Violence Against Women Act.  Let me ask you, do you ever find Democrats representing the most liberal states run across the aisle to find a way to pass a national right to work law?  Do you ever find Chuck Schumer seeking to pave a road with Rand Paul and Mike Lee to reduce the power of the TSA?  Do you ever find Barbara Boxer working with Ted Cruz on compromise options for Social Security choice?

Democrats are the ones who are in trouble, as 7 of their members must win reelection in states carried by Romney.  Let’s work together with Republican members to chart a path forward, and force the Democrats to grovel across the aisle begging for a compromise.  Then again, compromise is not in their DNA.

Cross-posted from The Madison Project

COMMENTS

  • edintexas

    Perhaps because Republicans have politicians who jump at the “opportunity” to “work with” the Democrats in a “bipartisan” effort to pass legislation which the Democrats can’t pass on their own and Conservatives consider anathema?

    Or are you addressing the MSM constantly blaming the Republicans for opposing Liberals? In that case you SHOULD know why they are blamed, though why they don’t have an effective response after all these years of the Drive By media arm of the Democrat party is, indeed, a question.

  • clowngirl

    TOM COBURN???

    I’m completely in shock and only hope he quickly comes to his senses.

    Excellent diary— but right now just stunned.

  • edintexas

    That “large majority” presumes the polls aren’t skewed on this issue. And many, if not most of those who support “universal background checks” do not know anything about the issue, they even believe the lie that 40% of sales are unchecked*.

    Also, Senator Coburn isn’t elected by the large majority of the country. He’s elected by a majority of Oklahomans.

    * this lie comes from a “survey” of 251 people who were asked if they “thought” they bought a firearm from someone who was not a dealer. 36% of the 251 people thought they had. The “survey” was taken early in the Clinton Administration (1992 IIRC) before the Clinton Administration stopped issue of Federal Firearms Licenses to people who conducted business from their homes (often called “kitchen table dealers”). It was also before the Brady Handgun Violence Protection Act was signed into law on November 30, 1993 with an effective date of February 28, 1994. So the survey was conducted before the Brady law was in effect with the requirement for a background check and LONG before the FBI brought the Brady required National Instant Check System active on line in November, 1998.

  • rbdwiggins

    Apparently, low information voters provide a plurality of the support for universal background checks. Otherwise, they would understand that criminals and the mentally disturbed routinely ignore current gun laws and would come to the logical conclusion that new legislation targeting those who respect the rule of law will do nothing to change the culture of violence or make them safer.

  • OhioHistorian

    “We really need to make Republican members of Congress sign a pledge that
    they will not engage in gang violence against the party. This
    secretive bipartisan gang work is getting out of hand.”
    Who is the party? Reince Priebus? John Boehner? Eric Cantor? Mitch McConnell? If they are working against them, I am for it. Unfortunately, what I see is that they are working FOR them, against US.
    Fortunately, I think that is what you are saying, that they are working against the interest of the people “which brung them to the dance”. As such, the people of these states should turn them over until they get someone who can really represent them.

  • bgintn

    Also Ed,
    By statute, information obtained in a background check is not retained by agencies that do those checks.

    A “universal background checks” could become the “Universal Confiscation List.” as well.

    Another example of passed on information.

    My Annual Physical at the VA.
    First, I will need a lawyer present.
    My doctor needs to read me this.

    “You Have The Right To Remain Silent, Everything Can And Will Be Used Against You In A Court Of Law”

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/doctor-warns-obama-taking-over-psychiatry/

  • rightlane1111

    Tom Coburn…now there is a shocker. Uh oh…Tom..not a good choice working in secret with the likes of Schumer. I think we have pretty good gun laws that cover what they are talking about. What I don’t know about is gun shows.

    At any rate…Chicago has the stiffest gun laws in the country and there are murders every day…and the same goes for Schumer’s state…strict gun laws…murders everyday.

    BTW…just a comment but now that Washington and Colorado have made pot legal…oh my oh my…how are they going to explain the rise in gun violence now that they have legalized it. So much for Columbine. Pot is a mood alterating drug that is accompanied by symptoms such as paranoia.

  • 1stRichard

    It seems the heading is a bit off, Why is Bipartisanship, Compromise and such a left turn only? I can’t even remember the last right turn, a real right turn, when and what was that?

  • carolina

    I totally agree! Most politicians get so good at political-speak that they can’t say anything clearly.

  • rennyangel4

    Only Reps. are bipartisan. Dems. are the standard for having all the answers the rest should compromise with.
    Cons. read too many NYTimes editoals and columns and watch too much CNN and CBS and want to be loved by the media. Cons. will start to be effective when they realize there is no good presss for them, and they can only save themselves and the US through principled stances and presenting counter arguments and better leg. than the lefties.

  • kowalski

    Is Newt Gingrich a “squish” now? I just got an email today from him, talking about how he has always found it unworkable and inhumane to deport 12 million illegals. I said that a few years ago and the hardliners here thought I was a squish. Now Newt Gingrich is talking about it in his email to me today! And better yet, he’s still angry at Romney, he’s still running for President against Romney’s ashes!

    You gotta read this to believe it all…

    He’s still running his campaign against Mitt Romney. But he wants people to know, now, that he’s not for mass deportation, he’s in line with Marco Rubio, and he’s all in favor of keeping grandmothers who have been here for 25 years in America:

    “My position was that people who have come here recently, have no ties to
    this country, should go home. But the-size-fits-all deportation of 12
    million people, without regard to their circumstances, would constitute a
    level of inhumanity the American people would never accept.”

    So Romney was to the right of Gingrich and now Gingrich is to the left of Romney but he’s correct because he’s saying what Marco Rubio thinks now, sort of, which is what I thought three years ago, and now it’s important, and Romney lost the election because he was too far to the right and turned off Hispanic voters, and unfairly attacked Newt Gingrich.

    Is that the story this week? What’s it going to be next week?

    Wow no wonder everyone’s confused. Here’s the whole post, which was contained in an email to me from Newt Gingrich today, in case I’m missing anything…

    http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2013/02/an-immigration-debate-based-on-reality/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=an-immigration-debate-based-on-reality

    Now, you said this two or three years ago, that we weren’t going to deport all these people, someone here at Redstate called you names. But it’s now Newt Gingrich’s official position on the issue. So what happened?

  • commonsenseobserver

    Which he isn’t, because most Democrats don’t put forth actual plans to cut the deficit by $9 trillion over a decade.

  • ehopejr

    Exactly carolina! peace…

  • lastgopinillinois

    “But he wants people to know, now, that he’s not for mass deportation”
    Gingrich hasn’t suddenly changed his mind. His e-mail is a repeat of the policy he repeatedly peddled across the media during campaign 2012. Do you think we are going to deport all 12 million (or however many) illegal aliens currently living in the shadows on the type of smaller budget and limited govt we all hope to obtain?
    I thought his policy was smart campaigning. The policy sought to restore the rule of law (immigration/border security) while pandering to the Latino community for votes. Gingrich was very hawkish on border security.

  • lastgopinillinois

    What we really need is for Republicans to sign a pledge to uphold the Constitution…oooops, they already swore an oath on the Bible for that.
    Oh well. So since that is worthless, maybe we should ask them to sign a pledge to stick to conservative principles, regardless of the liberal propaganda media outrage. The MSM is never gonna pat ‘em on the back no matter what anyway. So damn the torpedos. Full steam ahead!

  • Bill S

    Gingrich is right.

  • commonsenseobserver

    In any case, Gingrich is using a strawman here. No one wants mass-deportation. However’ I’m definitely not in favor of a path to citizenship in accordance with Senator Lightweight’s plan, that relies on the integrity of Big Sis, above all.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    “We really need to make Republican members of Congress sign a pledge that
    they will not engage in gang violence against the party.”

    Too late.

    Once the congresscritters have been elected, there’s really no way to control them. The key is electing better people to begin with.

    Wasn’t it Coburn who, at the last minute, before the “passage” of Obamacare, tried to, finally, invoke one of the Senate Standing Rules to have the Bernie Sanders amendment to the bill read in its entirety? And then when Sanders snatched the amendment away from the clerk, not a squawk was made by Coburn or any other of the Republican “lions of the Senate.”

    The incumbent Republicans won’t get organized and united until they see their respective constituents organized and united inside the Republican Party committees back home. And, with half of the Republican Party local precinct committeeman slots, on average, in every county in America, still vacant (the best barometer of political party organizing, at least from their perspective, because it means they might have a real threat in their next primary), don’t expect our Republican Party public servants to fight for our liberties. They won’t get organized and united until we get organized and united. Where it matters. Inside the Republican Party at the local level.

    Ought we not try it?

    Thank you.
    CW
    http://theprecinctproject.us

  • WmCraig

    This is a responsibility of the local Republican committee, local media and local conservative community organizations. This is where good digital communications comes in. This is what AM should be teaching local red state activists to do. To me this is a problem with our poor grass roots programs. Red States and blue states need local activists with specific goals. The reasons for action will be different but the techniques, networking, and often the objectives will have much in common.

    It is also a failure of conceptual leadership. Perhaps it is not possible to develop this external concept leadership without the grass roots organizing. I was reading through the American Majority home page and was quite impressed with their successes and spent a while studying there syllabus for activists. It seems thorough, except for one glaring omission. It doesn’t appear to address the why of activism. Perhaps it shouldn’t. But of course if training of this caliber doesn’t address why then we need something else.

    It isn’t just enough to say “better schools” or “conservative representatives”, that won’t take votes away from Patronage Economy Democrats. We need coordinated demands.

    Democrats have succeeded because they pander to specific constituencies with a single focus. The gay rights began as a rejection of sodomy laws. No one was talking about changing the definition of marriage, they were focused on one thing. And they were successful. Now, they are focused on one thing and are continuing that success. This is a good example of a coordinated grass roots movement that has broad reach. Who are our leaders who have the vision and focus to direct large coordinated efforts to target conservative objectives. For example school choice? How can we not build a nation wide network of community activists demanding vouchers and systems to direct all federal money to the child, not the state? Why is it so hard to see the value of this to Hispanic and Black communities? This is one objective that could link red and blue state conservative activist organizations in a common cause.

    You asked why there is only a one way street for compromise. I suggest that is because only the democrats have a solid, capable grass roots network.

  • WmCraig

    There pledges are not worth the paper they are written on, or they would have cut significantly real time spending in 2011 even if they had to shut down the government to do it. Their pledges are just another way to kick the can down the road.

  • WmCraig

    Not holding people accountable for what they do that is illegal is the main cause of violence in this country. Personally I think Newt will say anything that sounds good, and thinks will get him elected.

    It isn’t necessary to deport everyone. Simply make it costly, impractical or expensive to stay, If you have something of value, like jobs, liberty, property rights that are not widely available, why not charge a premium for those who want to enjoy these things?
    Free market right? No reason why non-citizens should benefit from our programs, like Social Security but there is also no reason why we shouldn’t tax them for the right to stay. If they can go home and do better, they will. Otherwise they will pay the premium and stay. At which point who cares?

  • WmCraig

    Lets open a dialog on free market principles.If you have something of value, you can charge for it. Say you have a corner property on a busy highway. You can rent space to a business there at a far higher price then a vacant lot in a far off rural location that sees no significant traffic. Well, America is like that. We have this corner with all this traffic, all this opportunity. Why not charge a premium for using it. For example, give people here the right to stay and work. Make them pay for social security, and all other wage taxes but do not grant them benefits. Link their right to stay to being gainfully employed, free of criminal activity or medical complications. Make them prove it.

    Those who find it financially lucrative to pay extra will stay. People pay thousands just to get here to mules. Those that don’t will go home.

    It is free market (which conservatives should embrace), it pays into social security without adding liability which benefits all citizen tax payers, and it resolves the issue of who should stay and who shouldn’t. Making the scoial safety net benefits unavailable addresses the problem of people who come here with no intention of contributing to our economy. If a successful person wants to bring their family here, they need only purchase school vouchers for their children.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Nah, Newt says what he thinks, before saying another thing altogether the next day. It’s his nature.

    Do you mean an annual fee for earned legal status? Interesting…

  • gator_hoo

    Coburn is a weird case. He used to be one of the out front conservatives, maybe 2nd to DeMint, but now he is squarely in McCain/Collins territory. He was part of the gang of six on the debt limit negotiations as well. Don’t understand him at all.

  • WmCraig

    Is it really legal? Where I grew up, people smoked pot until they could legally buy booze. Most everyone gave it up after that, or by their mid twenties. It is only legal for adults. It isn’t legal for people under 21, which means there is now an even bigger black market for pot, which means cash, which means guns. And I bet it will mean more people getting arrested too. But that is just a guess.

  • WmCraig

    All of Congress (meaning both houses) in both parties have more in common with each other than us. What they have done over the last couple decades is coming back to haunt them (think social security trust funds). As a group they look at America the way an occupying nation would, as a source of revenue with a population that needs to be managed.

  • WmCraig

    Did it pass? Did it cut anything.
    Personally, I am not interested in what money you won’t spend in the next Congress. They ONLY cuts that count are the cuts from spending that takes place during this congressional session. I can’t balance my budget by borrowing today, but promising to borrow less in the future. That won’t work.

    But I can balance my budget by doing without everything except necessities right now, until my spending and my income are in line.

  • junglecogs

    The problem is that we already have federal background checks on all firearm sales except private person to person and family gifts (and just how would Grandpa do a check on Grandson Timmy anyway?). Almost all gun show sales are checked as most sellers are required to by federal law as FFL holders. This is nothing more than a ‘camels nose under the tent’ move by Democrats; I thought Coburn was a lot smarter than this – he’s being used.

  • commonsenseobserver

    If we judge people in Washington based on whether their good ideas pass, dear me, we must really trust in their collective wisdom.

    It is a complete pipe dream to demand the complete elimination of the federal deficit in one fiscal year, that is for sure. And it’s even worse when we demean the importance of having actual methods to actually cut it at all in the first place.

  • rbdwiggins

    Your complaint is with congressional Democrats. The welfare state and the expanding bureaucracy needed to support it is their lifeline, because without it they’ll simply wither on the vine and die. Hence, no budget for nearly four years, only continuing resolutions passed in the dead of night under threat of fiscal crisis and government shutdown.

  • Chris

    Huh, I don’t think I’ve ever heard that particular idea (charging for legal status). I’ll have to think it over, but I think I like it..

  • rightlane1111

    Yes…pot is legal in Colorado. Now about the age…what does that really matter, they have gone down the slippery slope and there is no coming back. Pot is a gateway drug. Remember…our great one…we know who, was a member of the chroom (sp) club…wherein that is all they did (in his words) was smoke pot. What did that lead to…in his words…alcohol (I am not against drinking) and then coke.

    Just think…he kicked it all on his own. What a man.

  • GremlinJones

    Can you point to any instance in human history that gun violence rose after marijuana legalization? Why are you REALLY against marijuana? Why do you care what recreational substance people put into their bodies? We need less government, less regulation. After a long, hard workweek, why should the government dictate whether I can light up a joint or crack a beer?

  • jack777

    Democrats have 90% of the communications media acting as their propaganda bitches and they are shameless but consummate liars. Republicans accept the blame because, being inundated with it courtesy of the complicit media, cannot counter without being smeared as “extremists”. In this circumstance, they are in the position of a man being robbed who understands that any “compromise” will not be helpful but resistance is futile. But then guns are the great equalizer.

  • pmac

    I read that Coburn personally contributed money to Joe Manchin’s 2012 re-election campaign; figure that one out! Needless to say that pretty well summed him up; so this comes as no surprise. And OK needs to rid itself of him! Then this with Schumer on pro -gun control law; it does make one wonder what those who we voted for to “protect our rights” are up to.”

  • Rich

    That’s in essence how a Green Card currently works, you are ineligible to receive many federal benefits including SS and Medicare until you have accrued 40 quarters of employment in the US paying FICA taxes.

  • PowerToThePeople

    And the loser pot head section opens their mouth, who would have thought that would happen……….

    There are a lot of dead people all over the world, killed because of dope or as a result of its use, that may argue with your pot is not bad mentality. And we do not care what losers do with their body, does not mean we should make it legal. Everyone likes to show the failure of prohibition as the example as to why pot should be legal, problem is with the example, it costs taxpayers many times the money to deal with the affects of rampant drinking then it did to enforce laws. Alcohol kills many time over the amount of people now then under prohibition. Alcoholism is much higher now, etc etc etc. We are worse off now with the legalization of alcohol then we were when it was illegal. So that is why we care what dope heads put in their body.

    And a piece of advice, if you do smoke the weed, grow up. And if you would spend half the time and energy on bettering yourself and your community as you obviously do worrying about those who want to keep weed illegal, you would be much better off and your community would be as well. Such a pathetic thing to worry about legalizing weed.

  • thirdeblue3639

    Any survivors of the immigration circular firing squad, please make your way to the Green Room where the gun control circular firing squad is about to commence.

  • commonsenseobserver

    I didn’t start it, Erick didn’t start it, The Junior Senator from Florida started it first.

  • harleyone

    What I wonder is WHY Republicans/conservatives give a flying hoot what the complicit media/lying, smearing Democrats or anyone else says or calls them! Remember what Mom said about “sticks and stones”?

  • plh

    Excellent point. We need to hammer it home at every opportunity and in every way possible. When the dispute is about the direction of the country, merely slowing our descent into statism/collectivism is NOT compromise. True compromise would result in NO net movement in the wrong direction, and real right turns would be movement in the constitutional, limited Government direction.

  • plh

    We came out of that turn over two decades ago. And we’ve been settling for the pale pastel alternatives ever since. Truly unbelievable.

  • plh

    There is no God given right to US citizenship. They should be grateful for any courtesy we extend them.

  • plh

    I think WmCraig means they should not be accruing any quarters at all if they opt to stay and continue to work.

  • Jim_Riggs

    I like Senator Coburn. If Oklahoma doesn’t want him he’s welcome in Maryland anytime.

  • rbdwiggins

    It’s wholly believable, given the sorry state of our failed government schools and the collapse of American culture. We have a generation of young people in the 18-29 age bracket whose lives are centered around a reality that doesn’t exist outside of academia or social media and are saddled with an education/degree that is not worth the paper upon which it was written. Nearly 40% are unemployed, and of the remaining 60%, more than half are working part-time and nearly half of those fortunate enough to have full-time employment are working jobs that are totally unrelated to their chosen field of study. It’s truly tragic.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    “As long as our members in the Senate know that primary challenges are
    not a significant threat, they will continue to do as they please,
    knowing that in the end the base will turn out to vote for them. Until
    we in the base unite to become a strong and visible support mechanism
    for anti-establishment candidates willing to primary well funded
    incumbents, nothing will change.

    “And that means pulling out our wallets to give, and give and give
    until even the low-information lever-pullers know who our candidates
    are.”

    It
    also means that “conservative activists” have to become “voting
    members” of their local Republican Party committees. Half of these
    local precinct committeeman slots are vacant, on average, in every
    locale. Where I live, in Maricopa County Arizona, only 51% of the slots
    are open. We have a pretty good conservative majority in the slots
    now, but our goal is to get more and more of these slots filled so we
    can start passing near-unanimous resolutions by the county committee and
    by the legislative district committees within the county (and by the
    other county and LD committees) condemning those in Congress who will
    not stay true to their oaths of office and will not fight tooth and
    toenail for our liberties. For example, next month I plan to introduce
    the following resolution:

    “Resolution of the Maricopa County, Arizona Republican Executive Committee

    WHEREAS
    the 2012 Republican Party Platform states, with respect to the national
    problem of immigrants coming to the United States of America in
    violation of the country’s immigration laws, or remaining here in
    violation of the country’s immigration laws, and state laws relating to
    immigration, that “we oppose any form of amnesty for those who, by
    intentionally violating
    the law, disadvantage those who have obeyed it” and “[g]ranting amnesty only rewards and encourages more law breaking . . . ,”

    “BE
    IT RESOLVED we hereby condemn any elected Republican office holder,
    including our Republican delegations in the U.S. House and Senate, who
    have supported in the past, now support, or support in the future any
    legislation granting amnesty and United States citizenship for those
    who, by intentionally violating the law, disadvantage those who have
    obeyed it.”

    Will this do any good? Doubtful. But it’s a start.
    And what if we could get conservative majorities on every local
    district, county and state committee in the nation? And get all of them
    to start passing these kinds of resolutions? What if, for example, all
    of the Republican Party committees across Oklahoma passed resolutions
    denouncing Coburn’s latest “reaching across the aisle” move?

    What
    if we could get conservatives all across the country to start flocking
    in droves into their respective monthly Republican Party committee
    meetings. And figuring out how to become voting members of the Party?
    Eventually, we’d have real good conservatives in all the county, state
    and RNC officer positions.

    Not to mention a full-strength Party
    where it needs to be at full-strength: at the precinct level. Where
    we could organize and unite for effective GOTV.

    As we did in my
    legislative district. We got 84+% of Republicans to the polls, while
    the state average turnout percentage was 77%.

    The old saying that all politics is local is correct.

    Go here to learn more: http://precinctproject.us and http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

    I hope this helps.

    Thank you.

    CW

  • Donald Ayotte

    Bipartisanship is always a one-way street in the eyes of the ruling party. It is called using the bully pulpit to gain the advantage.

  • fredflintlock

    I’ve been meaning to ask, CW, is the committeeman system in place in all 50 states? I can find nothing about becoming a committeeman here in Michigan.

    Also, while I can’t hold a candle, CW, I have been on a mission since December to get us in the chorus off of our RedState barstools and into active participation within existing organizations. We have an abundance of opinion. What doesn’t seem to be clear is a path forward for turning well worn arguments into reality.

    None of this matters if we keep electing the same buffoons over and over again. We need to assemble now.

  • 1stRichard

    It seems all too many are overlooking this fact, ruling party or not, the leviathan grows larger as We the People suffer the loss of our liberties. Reagan was not very much of a right turn in comparison to the left turn death spiral we are in going back almost a hundred years. Why have a GOP that is supposed to offer a choice of direction when it does not, it should be left turn or right turn but now we seem to be stuck in a choice of how much of a left turn can you tolerate. I suppose this could be called a one way street but the real problem is that it is a left turn only, we have no choice. Yes, we are trying to fight at the foundation of the GOP as was done so many times in the past but it is the establishment that keeps dragging us further left. It is all about the direction…

  • plh

    And I voted for GWB both times, as I thought the alternative would be far worse. Yet, I feel that it was partly President Bush’s big Government lite policies that paved the way for the Democrat victories of 2006 and 2008. I we don’t leave the GOP, we need to take it back before a change in direction is no longer possible.

  • 1stRichard

    The question is why should the GOP be the pick of lesser evil? Who are they listening to and what are they making their judgment on? Unfortunately, this often comes down to who shouts the loudest. During the Obamacare battle, the left had full time messaging centers, in my area these were organized and funded threw SEIU, and supported by my congressional representatives that I did not vote for. Furthermore is the bias in the news media that needs no explanation. I did my part, fax blasting, Emails, snail mail and more, and I kept track of the activity on this side of the fence as well as the other side. From this, the leviathan on the left is overwhelming the actual activism on the right. This is a complex issue, it is much more then taking back the GOP and more to do with changing the direction and maintaining it overall. We may be past the point where change in direction is no longer possible, it depends on how much more the established GOP wants to be the party of irrelevance in the direction in this Nation.

  • rightlane1111

    GJ…here is what I know. Marijuana allows your natural inhibitions to excel. So…if I am a pothead and I don’t like someone saying something…my pot is the enabler to justify that I will pick up a gun or a knife and get rid of that person…or at the very least do something to that person that I would not do..if I were not smoking it. Secondly, pot causes paranoia and if someone is worried that everyone is out to get him/her…well, why not pick up a gun and shoot them?

    Most of the shootings that our dear Prez is talking about…the people were under the influence of mood altering drugs or they were having withdrawal symptom .. antidepressants, tranquilizers, etc.

    Oh…one other thing that pot does for you…you don’t particularly give a darn about anything…everything is hunky dorey…and that way it is easy to CONTROL the collective.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    fred,

    I have this link at my little blog:

    http://www.oaklandgop.net/precinct-delegate

    One of the reasons you might have been having trouble finding info is the terminology is unique to each state. Michigan uses the term “precinct delegate.”

    You are absolutely correct. Conservatives need to get out the virtual world and into the real world to unite and organize politically where they live. Usually, the BEST place to do that is at their local Republican Party committee meetings.

    And many already in the leadership positions, and almost all incumbents, FEAR that we “little people” will figure out that if we just fill up all of the vacant “voting member” slots at the precinct level then we’ll have not only a full-strength party where it matters most — at the precinct level — but we’ll also be in a position to elect greater numbers of conservatives to the Party leadership positions. Indeed, maybe we’d even have real conservatives representing us on the RNC and get rid of, for example, the stupid agreement to have the kind of “presidential debates” that are “moderated” by the likes of the great “hit it out of the park” Candy Crowley and are not really debates at all.

    Good luck and I hope you will report back on your experiences.

    Thank you.
    CW

  • audax1

    I was a precinct delegate in Michigan back in the 1970′s. There were 2 ways at that time to become a delegate. 1.) Run in the primary election (then it was in March). For this you need to see your town or city clerk and have your name put on the ballot. I needed a minimal amount of registered GOP voters to sign my petition and prestodigitation and a little shoe leather later my name was on the ballot. I was the only one running and won. The second time my opponent was the GOP National Committeeman from Michigan, Peter Fletcher -RINO and I lost by 6 votes!. 2.) If the position is unfilled, attend the monthly Executive meeting of the County GOP and have them appoint you the interim precinct delegate until the next election cycle. Even though I lost to Peter Fletcher, was appointed an At Large delegate to the 1976 GOP National Convention by Ronaldus Magnus himself to fill one of the 10 of 29 slots he had won in the March 1976 primary and had no committed precinct delegate running and was the first vote from Michigan for Ronaldus Magnus, before the State Reagan Chairman State Senator Jack Wellborn. After my narrow loss to Fletcher I was to be challenged by the MI State GOP as a delegate so Jack made me the first Reagan vote, because they would have to challenge everyone else before they got to me. It was a great convention and I organized the Texas half of Kemper Arena for the Reagan demonstration, which Craig Shirley in his book on that convention claims as the longest in the history of the GOP!

  • audax1

    Fred, here is a Diary I wrote a few years ago about it: http://www.redstate.com/audax/2011/01/04/be-a-precinct-delegate-how-i-did-it-in-mi-tx-and-co/

  • larenzo

    The current crop of Republicans are no different than the democraps.

  • fredflintlock

    So it’s a nomenclature thing. I am a delegate now and I attend our local GOP club meetings. In Michigan we elect delegates in the primary in presidential election years. That sounds like it may be different from the systems you describe in other states. I’ve been meaning to post some diaries on that experience and on the whole get “out of the pews” lecture, but writing more than a few lines is time consuming. I hope to get on that task in the near future.

    I will say this, however, once I became active in my local GOP club, it was easy to find the time to do meetings and contribute to last year’s GOTV campaign. I was even asked start attending our club leadership meetings, so I guess I’m moving up.

    I am staring to dig through the Precinct Project to see if I can learn more about making a difference. Thank you for the guidance you’ve provided, CW.

  • fredflintlock

    I hadn’t yet scrolled down to your replies when I commented above, audax1. Thanks for the additional info. Actually, I am an interim precinct delegate. I ran last year and lost to some faceless person nobody has ever seen. We suspect he may have been a democrat plant, but it is just as possible that he simply never showed up after winning. So, last month I was appointed interim delegate.

    I’m going to our county and state conventions later this month. This will be my first experience with a floor vote. I’m looking forward to it.

  • fredflintlock

    I was a bit confused by the terminology. It sounded entirely plausible that the party would have an officer system in addition to the delegate system that was kept on the down-low, so that riff raff like me would be none the wiser.

  • http://www.mattmodleski.com mattmodleski

    What Chuck Schumer has is an influence on WallStreet money that flows into DC, tens of millions of it.

  • rightlane1111

    Good Morning…Good Morning. Because this comes through as an open thread…although this is not too much off topic…please read this…sometimes we have to laugh. This actually was printed in a newspaper by a Democrat.

    http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/424798_530231810331738_412393013_n.jpg

  • audax1

    What County are you in? I ran in Genesee the first time and Washtenaw the second.

  • funwithknives

    He’s not running for Senate again and has said so, repeatedly.
    He’s got nothing to lose in doing this and that is WHY He’s doing it.
    That he’s dualing up with Chuckles just makes it vomit-inducing.
    Oh and as for “…a large part of the country…” show us the polling and who ran it.
    Polls anymore reflect not only what is on people’s minds but how little is really there inside their wee little state-educated pin-heads.
    I take my own ‘personal poll’ every so often, with anyone who might fit the above description. I offer them recompense if they can find the word ” Democracy ” in The Constitution [that I just happen to be carrying]
    Yes,…I am picking on them and it is always joyous when they cannot find it.
    Not to mention, I get free beer, minor monetary gains and free labor in the bargain .
    You ‘canardly’ believe how often this occurs……….

  • BA Cyclone

    I can’t speak to Michigan at all, but it is likely there is an officer system. Generally the state GOP has county GOP organizations. The ‘precinct delegates’ are elected or appointed to a central committee that forms the county GOP committee — that committee will generally elect officers for the county GOP. For me it wasn’t a big secret, it’s more that nobody bothers to talk about it, much less learn how it works at the local levels.

    My examples are a generalization based upon my experience in my state, but I am sure most state orgs are relatively similar in the broad definitions.

  • vandalii

    For better or worse, Republicans remain committed to (relatively) civil discourse when it comes to folks on the other side of the aisle. When we’re busy shooting at each other within the party, seems no holds barred :-( .

  • vandalii

    …and don’t forget that polls only reflect answer to the questions, and it’s easy to phrase questions aimed at an outcome. For instance, when promoting a bill against domestic violence, the question “Have you stopped beating your spouse yet, yes or no?” yields a 100% hit on the need for said bill… ;-)

  • cheesycon

    Maybe everyone is a Democrat except for Tbone.

  • fredflintlock

    I’m in Oakland in the 8th district. Greater Oakland GOP is our club here.

    http://www.greateroakgop.com/

    76 was my first year as an eligible voter. I saw Jerry Ford speak in our town square. I wasn’t yet aware of Reagan’s big push for a change in the philosophy and goals of the Republican party.

    And I voted.

  • audax1

    I would think Oakland County should have a pretty conservative-noun GOP party.?