I can understand the reason it is supported, as bad of a stinking fish as it is. It is Constitutionally passed as the law of the land and survived a Supreme Court challenge. We lost on all of those points, and do not have the Congressional power to rescind it.
My question is, at which level will they fund it? The $1.4T that the CBO now admits it will cost? Or the real >$6T that a full 10 years is estimated to cost? The real problem with all of these entitlements has been that the budgeting process lets the Executive spend whatever they want. It is time to limit the spending on entitlements and to say “we said we could afford no more” on many of them. The CR is a less than perfect place to do such work, because the Executive then pretty much spends as it wants to do within the broad outlines set in the bill.

Erick,
They don’t move heaven and earth……the media do it for them.
Destroy today’s media…..name names and show faces. Destroy Liberalism.
If the Repubs/Romney spent 1 billion in 2012, they should spend that much each year attacking Stepphie/Todd to start.
If we don’t destroy the yearly 5 billion dollar free PR machine the Dems use to sway LIVs we might as well start calling each other Comrade.

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Well spoke. To the point with quite a punch.

What confuses me is how it can be funded as a tax when the bill was not passed on that premise. Another BIG question is why all these ‘changes’ can be made to a bill that had no severability clause…it was ‘all or nothing’ if I recall correctly. Of course there I go again, forgetting that the rules never apply to Congress, even those they make themselves!

This is why the Republicans will lose the House in 2014. They stand for nothing. They passed VAWA yesterday. I for one will sit out the election at the Federal level unless my Representative the RINO Joe Heck loses in the primary. Until the ruling class is thrown out of office nothing will change. Why vote for a Democrat lite when you can get the real thing?

I share your frustration, but I can’t equate voting for a rule to allow all to vote on the bill on the floor, with “endorsement”.

Semantic word play. The Senators and Reps are not ignorant of the certain outcome, based on how they vote.

Voting against the rule defunds Obamacare

Voting for the rule makes it a reality.

Legalistic parsing is a losing game with the left. Bright lines are the only way to force change.

Vehemently agree.

That’s why the Rove and consultancy vampire colleagues frustrate the hell out of me. They’re diverting funds that should be used to build parallel communications platforms, or subvert the existing ones.

We desperately need to change the leadership of the GOP in the House of Representatives, like today.
How do we get ride of Boehner, Cantor and Ryan????

We don’t, today. And (my hand up first) – that’s the problem with we folks on Redstate.

We burn off all this indignation off in comments and chats – then go back to the tough slog of making a living and supporting our families, *and* the growing, lacking-any-shame, dependency class.

The TEA party is disorganized, media brand-damaged, and being both aggressively marginalized by establishment Repubs, and kept alive to serve as a ‘safety valve’ preventing a true reform effort from taking root.

Getting rid of the go-along-to-get-along Republicans requires commitment, strategy, tactical strikes*, and money. We’re 0 for 4, on an organized basis.

*Each cycle, target no more than 3 high profile Republican chameleons – Lindsey Graham would top my personal list – and pour everything into funding viable true conservative challengers, with an organized, no prisoners media campaign on their behalf. Make the party leaders understand that their choice is yield or die (politically).

My understanding is that was the SC, specifically the Roberts majority, that found it was a tax, even though as you suggest it was not passed on that premise.

I think what’s happening, joshinca, is that a fair few conservatives are coming to the conclusion that this isn’t fixable, and are willing to roll the dice on getting out the way of a system crash, hoping we can build better once the hard lessons are evident, and the rubble is cleared away.

I understand that sentiment. Hell I’ve felt it myself before.

The problem is that the system isn’t going to collapse anytime soon and the democrats can do a hell of a lot of damage to our liberty in the mean time.

That sentiment is one of the reasons that CA is such a mess. Conservatives are a lot larger percentage of the population here than people outside the state realize. But they are demoralized and have checked out of the political process. Last year, republican areas of the state had dismal turnout levels (some around 30%) which didn’t affect the presidential or congressional results but did give the democrats veto proof majorities in the legislature and did allow tax increasing initiatives to pass.

I don’t know what the answer is to preventing creeping socialism but I do know that dropping out of the political process and hoping for a system reboot is not the answer.

Isn’t it about time that we quit phoning, faxing, writing, etc and get busy getting (actually doing something) and get a term limit amendment???? Let’s do something that will indeed get their attention. Our screaming does nothing. News writer (only one person writes the article) gets their attention and yet only 6% of us believe what that one person writes. Either we quit whining and we just live with it or get busy doing something! If every American wrote a letter to every Congressman to tell them to not fund this thing, they would still fund it. But if every American demanded .. no let’s make it DEMANDED.. term limits, maybe then they would know that their heads are on the chopping block. Are you with me? Everyone forgets all this crap when we get to the voting booth. Wouldn’t it be nice if Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell, etc names COULDN’T be on the ballot next time round????? We wouldn’t have to wait for them to die, they would be out! I am thinking even 12 years is 6 too many but 2 terms might appease us all. NOT a one of them could or would lord over the rest pulling crap like they do today. AND we can go for no pension only health care while they are serving the people. BIG budget cut!!!

Until we undo the idea – prevelant among the masses – that a Congressman’s job is to fight to get a small portion of every dollar we send to Washington spent in his district, and that a good Congressman is one who justifies his vote-trading as necessary to this end, we will continue to decline.

The TEA party is disorganized, media brand-damaged, and being both
aggressively marginalized by establishment Repubs, and kept alive to
serve as a ‘safety valve’ preventing a true reform effort from taking
root.

Isn’t it a shame that this had to happen. It quickly divided into two groups and for the life of me I can’t understand why. I called them about a problem here in my state and I was rebuffed. They went to the top of the charts (both negative and positive) but exploded because there were no roots which to hold it under such wind. A rebuilding from the ground up would be nice. If a platform was written by an interested group and written such as the ten commandments in stone with true conservative roots and then actively seek people to run in local government and only grading each candidate on state and federal levels until their candidates reached those levels. They could actually gain momentum for being a true party. But now they are held under ridicule and they cannot combat it. However, most of us still identify with them. I just don’t know who the them are!

The only way we will change the House is if we . . . change the House.

The only way we will change the outcome of the primaries, and increase the chances of greater number of new conservative candidates to defeat marshmallow-spined “Republican” incumbents is to fill up every vacant precinct committeeman slot where each of us lives.

After you’ve achieved conservative majorities on the committees, you can begin to use the Party itself to attack the RINOs who won’t follow our Platform’s planks and who will not fight for our liberties:

http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2012/12/07/1058/

http://sonoranalliance.com/2013/02/28/pima-gop-equates-the-governors-medicaid-expansion-to-expanding-socialism/

http://www.pimagop.org/index.cfm/article_1287.htm

Now imagine if local, county and state committees (even the RNC!) started passing and publicizing these kinds of resolutions against the incumbent Republicans?

The only reason this is not happening is because not enough conservatives are actually “in” the Party in the local precinct committeeman slots.

The reason our Republican Party is not “conservative enough” is because not enough conservatives are in it. In the voting slots. Called precinct committeeman in most states.

Thank you.
CW
http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

THANK YOU CW!!!

The Republicans abolished campaign signs in my county. You can put them on your own yard though if you want to get your car vandalized.

Our legislators and Governor swore they would protect us from Obamacare, and now they’ve betrayed us.

Why don’t you list what the ACU measures in its ratings, so everyone will know?

Boy, they sure know how to run a campaign! I live in Illinois, and a lot of successful businesses are nowhere nearly as capable as the Democrats. BUT, money and/or a good living is the goal, not governing. There is no way on God’s green earth their officials could make above or under the table anything like what they pull out of government. Every contract around here has all sorts of hidden money flows to officialdom, who are padding thier salaries like any self-respecting third-world official. These are hidden taxes: why do you suppose it costs government so much to do anything?
Republicans have to run against this. Expose the corruption! You can’t miss it. How many programs do we have to do the same thiing, but get the Congressman’s name in the paper?
Doesn’t anyone realize the private sector is the cure for government? That’s the place where exchanges are voluntary. TAX CUTS are the opposite of deficits — the cure for them actually. Why doesn’t the GOP make that simple observation and take money away from the Democrats who are indulging themselves with it instead of doing their jobs carefully and efficiently?
Government has always been the opposite of Liberty, its enemy by definintion. Think of a slide switch: move it left, and you get more government and less freedom; move it right and, presto, you get more choices, better quality and lower pricess. The Founding Fathers knew this, which remains the reason they limited the scope of government to the essential tasks we shouldn’t do ourselves. We have laws and courts rather than lynch mobs, property rights which the government keeps others from taking, the right to defend ourselves…
If the Grand Old Party ever wants to be grand again, our House leaders had better start taking their power of the purse seriously again and protect us from Washington. They don’t need buy us the way Democrats have to get support! Just get out of the way and enjoy the ride to prosperity.

Obamacare is here to stay, sorry helping the less fortunate is so anathema to you…The reason you all are mad at the Republic Party is that it is no longer really a national party, this period is similar to the fall of the Whigs in the early 20th century….the Republic Party has no core left, it is only the collection of anti-Obama bigots that cling to their old beliefs…your time has faded, slip quietly into the night

After 2014 when the real tax and premium hell breaks loose watch the public as they are losing their plans then. Politicians will simply follow the reaction of American workers and I doubt anyone will be held accountable in the end.