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Today, House Conservatives Will Prove They Are the Problem

Yesterday, the White House announced it would stop White House tours in response to sequestration.

Congressman Louie Gohmert of Texas responded by offering an amendment to the pending continuing resolution that would prohibit federal dollars spent to cover the costs of President Obama’s golf games.

Speaker John Boehner and the Republican Leaders ruled that Congressman Gohmert’s amendment was not relevant to the continuing resolution and threw it out.

Today, House conservatives will join with their Republican colleagues to vote on what is called a “closed rule.” This is a vote that will allow Republican leaders to bring to the floor of the House of Representatives the continuing resolution without having to deal with Congressman Gohmert’s amendment.

It will also prevent Republicans from being able to defund Obamacare.

Today, House Republicans will vote on a rule in the House of Representatives that, once approved, will allow the continuing resolution to pass while enabling and funding Obamacare.

House Conservatives will make it happen. In fact, House Conservatives who vote for the rule are voting to fund Obamcare. Passing the rule then conveniently voting against the actual continuing resolution cannot be given a pass.

Today, conservative groups must set a new standard — voting for the rule on the continuing resolution must be scored against.

Scoring on the rule must be the new standard because conservatives in the House of Representatives are all too often voting for rules to pass legislation they ultimately oppose when, had they blocked the rule, the legislation would not pass.

They will enable passage of the continuing resolution while voting against it. They will try to have it both ways.

Today is not the day House Conservatives will kill America, but they will show they are the real problem by enabling and funding what they have campaigned against and claim to oppose. They will have become all that they claimed they were not.

Jeb Hensarling, Tom Price, Jim Jordan, and Steve Scalise are the former and current chairmen of the Republican Study Committee. These men are supposed to be the leaders of conservatives.

Watch them today. See which of these conservative leaders and others fail us and fund Obamacare, while spinning their way through denial. Watch as they vote to fund Obamacare, then go home and tell you how much they oppose it because they ensured the continuing resolution would pass before voting against it.

Oh, but it’ll all be okay. We know they’ll fight on the upcoming debt ceiling. Hahahahahahaha. Sigh.

COMMENTS

  • bobnrobertson

    Gutless illegitimi are getting just as devious as the democrats, they might as well change to the democrat party for all the good they do! Bend over and kiss your asses good-bye, Conservatives…we have no representation in Washington…they are ALL out for themselves!

  • tokm908

    What is the point of donating, volunteering, advocating if this is what we get? Its a one party system, a big govt party, with a handful of real Conservatives who want to save the country. There were 30 real Conservatives as of yesterday. As the vote get nearer the RINOs will join the Conservatives knowing they can still vote against the CR and it will still pass. These are the guys that NEED TO GO. This is all a game to them. Its the country to us.

  • mt32

    Couldn’t agree more with Erick. If you don’t support the legislation, why vote for the rule that allows it to come to the floor?

    Whatever happened to Appropriation process?

  • rubicrawlerlj

    The sad fact is that nothing is going to chance until we hit rock bottom and we forcibly extricate all politicians from the trough. I for one am hoping/praying that we do not leave the task to our children, as they did not create the sad state of affairs that we are in!
    This kabuki theater has gone on long enough.
    As Thomas Jefferson stated a long time ago, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.”

  • http://www.mattmodleski.com mattmodleski

    As our Government becomes more isolated from reality, the entropy inside the beltway continues to build. (Eventually a closed system builds entropy internally until it impodes and a new system replaces it) I believe the math problems facing our country are so enormous and hidden from average Americans in terms of the scope that most people will be shocked when the crash comes and/or their standard of living continues to erode. If there is a crash, most of America will look for new leaders. If there is a slow steady erosion of the standard of living due to ever escalating inflation and credit driven consumption, it will take longer for most of America to demand change. I am saddened by the apathy in our country as I still believe she is the greatest place on earth. But if you don’t know the math, you can choose to believe whatver you’re told and that’s where we are today.

  • 1689

    A summary of what everyone should know: For 2 years, 2008-2010, the Democrats passed Obamacare without any Republican support. Not a single Republican voted for it in either the Senate or the House. The Democrats even locked Republicans out of meeting rooms where it was to be discussed. Republicans campaigned in 2009 to repeal it. It was the only big reason the People had for handing Republicans control of the House — to stop Obama & Obamacare. And the People did so. Having been locked out, the Republicans owe the Democrats nothing on Obamacare: zip, zero, nada. There was no compromise with Republicans such that they could be said to have a stake in the legislation. The Republicans also owe the party-who-would-bankrupt America nothing. They owe the political jackals in the media nothing. Having taken control of the House, they have an inherent veto over any spending they don’t like. They control what numbers to write into Appropriations bills. Zero would be a very good number given the way they’ve been treated and what they owe the People. Zero would be a very good number given that we’re going bankrupt, owing 17 TRILLION.

    But the Republican leadership is full of cowards, afraid of their own shadow, fastidious in their desperate attempts to appear reasonable, afraid of what the media will say. The biggest coward is at the top, Boehner. The party is full of cynical know-nothing big spenders too. What would be just and appropriate is outrage and grim determination. It is all for nought. We are headed for cataclysm, the only thing apparently that will force a change in the People and a change at the top.

  • Spike

    I understand the positng rules of the site – no advocating for a third party, no comments to tear down Republicans. How much longer can those of us who have eyes to see ignore the truth about a big population of our Party? When does one say ‘enough’ and take their time, their money (and I used to think most importantly), their vote elsewhere? I want to belive that my elected Republican Party officals will rise to the occasion, act differently than the self-interested ones who have created the mess we call government; but after reading the above, I don’t have hope anymore. It looks like it is all a game, funded by me and you and other taxpayers, but played by the elected reps from both parties. Please don’t tell me that I am tearing down the Party – its the Party that is tearing me, and others like me, apart. I feel that my conservative values have little or no representation from my Party, much less across the spectrum of my government. I don’t expect conservative values to win without effort and I don’t expect the conservative point of view to win a vote or an arguement everytime, but I do expect conservatives to win occasionally – I desperately want to see my elected Party representatives stand and deliver on something as important as defunding Obamacare – without political tricks, sleight-of-hand or other disingenious BS.

  • rj145

    Yet another example of why “contempt of congress” is a logical response!

  • derekwwest

    Unfortunately, you are correct.

  • derekwwest

    With Dem’s running the show and the media count on “never-before-seen” totalitarian oppression.

  • chrisvicar

    Speaker Boehner is squelching conservatives like Louie Gohmert and others. He should be listening more to their plans and programs instead of pandering to Eric Cantor, who is often wrong.

  • cheesycon

    the problem is that we have no long-term strategy.

  • Jeff Cooper

    One problem for GOP House members who oppose Obamacare is that there is no serious reform bill to replace it. Defunding Obamacare is clearly the moral thing to do. However, some House members are in a pickle: what do they do for their constituents who will be affected by a defunded program? This is a cunning way around the problem with 2014 elections looming on the horizon, a.k.a. politics as usual.

  • hayekwasright

    Sadly, keeping an eye on them is not enough. Many of us have been doing that. We have to relentlessly ride herd in sufficient numbers that we cannot be ignored. If we have to continually hold (or more frequently slap) their hands, the idea of them representing us is gone.

  • fredflintlock

    If the Republican Party succeeds in getting another faux conservative nominated in 2016, and whoever it is will be labelled “conservative” regardless, it would not be a shocker to see more Republican voters behave the way the Ronulans did in last year’s election.

  • ihateliberals

    Erick I have been a Conservative Republican for over 50 years. Recently I have divorced myself from the GOP. Now I am beginning to wonder do we really have any true conservatives in the congress anymore? It seems we have lost our voice entirely. Congressmen that we have know for years and were very conservative are now giving into Boehner which means giving into the Left. This is a very discouraging time for me. How do we get true conservatives to not fear the Left and to standup for our values and Fiscal common sense?

  • jodymcdaniel

    A question, why are you saying that “House Conservatives” will prove they are the problem? By their actions they are showing that they are Republicans, not necessarily conservatives. I think it is important that they be exposed for their actions and that they don’t get the cover with voters that the “conservative” label provides. If they want to legislate as big government Republicans, label them as such.

  • edintexas

    Why assume standing on principle is a losing proposition? Why assume putting up a conservative for the Presidential Nominee is a loser when it has only been tried twice since Truman left office? One changed both the party and the tone of US politics, Goldwater, arguably proving your point though perhaps also making it a moot point. And one was a two term President (hint, his last name was not Bush). We haven’t nominated another conservative, but if we do, perhaps it won’t turn out the way you believe it would.

  • ihateliberals

    I am so glad to see that others are now seeing what I have been pointing out to local Party leaders for a few years now. the Liberal Republicans have taken over the party. They end up siding with the Democrats at the end. The only difference is that the party leaders are mad that they aren’t the ones getting the credit for these bad ideas. John Boehner needs to go along with McCain, McConnell and many many more Liberal republicans.

  • dstarke

    No no! The problem is we have, at the core and in the leadership, is statist Republicans. Their argument is not that “government is the problem” but that they can manage government better than the Democrats. They have no desire and gain no political advantage from reducing the size of government and they do not. Even their (or Obama’s, whatever) sequester DOES NOT decrease spending. As long as the current leadership hold power in the House, they might as well be called the Republican wing of the Demopublican party.

  • Kyle-MI

    Elections have consequences. We lost the fight on stopping Obamacare. If people really wanted to repeal it, they would have voted for Romney and GOP control of the Senate. Unfortunately there were people on our side who were too obsessed with Romney’s prior record and his religious beliefs. There were people who were concerned more about getting a “true” conservative as president than wanted to repeal Obamacare. There were people who were more motivated about allowing the country to be driven to the bottom so a “true” conservative savior could come and rescue it. And now all we are left with is undemocratic procedural tomfoolery.

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    I’ve been asking this on other threads on this topic, but if we are going to draw a line in the sand we have to be prepared to make it stick. Forcing a full scale political battle over Obamacare would be disastrous if it ends with a GOP cave-in. What is the plan for avoiding that?

    Seems to me that the solution lies in insisting on an orderly budget process, and that it is too late to do that for the CR. But I’d love to be wrong if someone has a plan for winning this thing now.

  • northfloridawriter

    House Republicans, under the unprincipled leadership (and I use the term loosely) of Boehner, Cantor and others are an absolute disgrace. And those so-called conservatives on the bench who vote with them yet say they stand for America are phony. A meager thirty patriotic Republicans stood up for the right and they will now be scorned and ridiculed. These people are the patriots; the leadership and their cohorts are truly political cowards and, frankly, I think they are really progressives hiding in the closet.

    Remember all of Boehner’s promises? He has lied repeatedly and I, for one, will never support the organized Republican Party again as a party. I will, however, vote for Republicans when they offer truth and leadership, but I am talking about quality candidates who are principled like the thirty brave Congressmen and others like the outstanding SenatorTed Cruz of Texas.

    Rank and file Republicans, you should now finally understand what the DC party is and what it stands for—nothing conservative. They, frankly, are proving to be no better than Obama. And the next time I hear a McCain, Rove, or that disgusting Steve Schmidt talk about how to win elections, I think I will throw up. I am sick to my stomach and fear this might be the final death knell of our country with any semblance of what we want it to be. God help us all.

  • norris

    Just say no !
    If a republican votes to fund Obama care I will vote against him ,campaign against him and replace him with a conservative .

  • dudley

    There are two types of politicians in DC. The communists and the communist enablers.

  • cheesycon

    i actually fully agree with you – because Scott Walker shows that a conservative CAN win, Walker got 11% of the voters who voted for Obama, during the recall.

    But we need to be prepared to lose and still run teh conservative anyway. That means no more electability-first candidates like McCain or Romney.

    I totally agree that you are saying that conservatives wont lose necessarily – but we cant worry about winnning or losing, we ned to worry about running and most of all **PERSUADING** (like Walker did) about conservatism.

    Every election – every one – is not an opportunity to win. Its an opportunity to preach, and teach, the values we believe in and our beliefs, and that takes time.

    Even Jesus Christ did not build his following overnight, so surely we can be a little more patient than one 4-year cycle :)

  • The_Gadfly

    The only people whom I have ever seen bring up Romney’s religion are the RINOs who want to put down the conservatives who actually showed up and voted for him at election time. Even if he wasn’t their first choice. And we were right that Romney would have trouble trying to position himself as against Obamacare and for Romneycare when the only difference between the two was the locus of implementation. Romney was and is a technocrat, not a conservative. Technocrats always run into trouble in ideas elections because they think it’s all just about applying the right technology and/or eggheads to the problem. Some things are a matter of morals and spirit. Technology never helps with those issues.

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    And not only would those of us on this forum be willing to do it, but will the GOP leadership and/or enough House Republicans to maintain a majority be willing to shut down the government indefinitely?

  • icantstandthemadness

    That is it, in a nutshell. Good post.

  • wgswst

    I’ve called and registered my protest with my (supposedly) conservative representative.

    Frankly, though, I’ve just about given up on national politics.

    Conservatives need to be focusing our attention and energy on our states. We need to make our states as strong as possible, to enable them to do an end-run around DC.

    Because, make no mistake, FedGov is aiming to do to the states what it’s done to national “conservatives”.

    http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/02/13/words-dont-matter-actions-do/

  • 2warabnvet

    Everything “Boner” is doing as Republican Leader convinces me that he is secretly in league with Obama.

  • Lock_Piatt

    Are you willing to get involved and KEEP THE REPUBLIC? Here is how you can help make DC small, limited, without bribe money, Lobbyist will all leave and the courts will no longer dictate to our States – a Limited power Federal government like the Founders designed.

    The people are just like the politicians – they want to not really do any work to KEEP THE REPUBLIC – they just want someone to blame. That being said – it is not Federal Government that will save the USA – it as you and I have preached for years, it is the job OF WE THE PEOPLE to use our STATE LEGISLATORS TO USE ARTICLE V and repeal the 14th – 16th and 17th AMENDMENTS – which will force the DC government – all three branches back under the ORIGINAL CONSTITUTIONAL STRUCTURE – a limited small weak government with LIMITED enumerated POWERS and the States would be strong with few limits to do the will of the citizens of the many States to their needs.

    Now let me challenge the blamer groups – WILL YOU HELP KEEP OUR REPUBLIC? Take a positive action send this to all your friends and families – post where ever you visit many many times – it will THE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEIR POWER TO CHANGE GOVERNMENTS – KNOWLEDGE IS POWER AND TRUTH – WILL YOU DO IT?

    http://articlevprojecttorestoreliberty.com/activity-page.html

  • falsereality13

    200 years later and Americans STILL do not know our bicameral system is a single party parliamentary entity what only difference between neo LIBERAL/democrats and neoCON/republicans is their fiscal budgets. Libralcon anti social leadership… Brought to you by gullible Americans who voted for them, covet their madness and worship their criminality in a neurotic funk with reality.

  • Kyle-MI

    So how is that working for you in repealing Obamacare?

  • Tbone

    What? Politicians are self-serving scum regardless of Party? Who knew?

  • celador2

    What ever happened to the reassuring loud cries and screams of Rep Michele Bachman R-MN? She ran for president realy to repeal Obamacare after first introducing a bill in the House soon after the passage of ACA. She was at every tea party Dc rally and she said she knew Obamacare inside and out. She would lead the charge to be rid of it. Can she not back some defunding?
    Where is she now?

  • constitutionjenny

    There is no way on earth that the 14th amendment
    will be repealed. As a conservative, I dislike how often it is abused by
    democrats (and used out of the scope of its original intent). But any attempt
    to modify or abolish it would be seen as racist. No democrats would vote for
    that, no RINOs would vote for that, and many true conservatives wouldn’t even
    vote for that.

    Also, write coherently. Liberal use of capitalizations and
    incorrect grammar structures fail to impress anyone.

  • markkozikowski

    Conservative mantra just be “No One runs uncontested in 2014″. If these limp-back, RINO’s cannot provide cover tor their promises, then they MUST be removed from office. ASAP.

  • http://twitter.com/kaltkrieger Cold Warrior

    We don’t have to hit rock bottom before conservatives will unite and organize where they live, for real political action, inside their respective local Republican Party committees and at their respective precinct levels, but that’s probably what it will take. And by then it may be too late.

    Here we are after over four years of Obama and we still had 4 million conservatives who sat out the election because “their guy” wasn’t the nominee.

    Here we after four years of Obama and half of the precinct-level precinct committeeman slots in our Party, on average, in every locale, are still vacant.

    If you want to get involved, where you live, go here to learn the why and how of it:

    http://www.teapartynation.com/profiles/blogs/what-we-need-to-do-as-soon-as

    Just blogging won’t change the Republican Party and the outcome of the all-important, traditionally-very-low-turnout primary elections. Nor will writing letters to the squishy Republicans change them. The only way to “change” them is to change them out in the primary election.

    The only way to change the Republican Party leadership is to get inside it.

    Precinct committeemen elect, directly or indirectly, ALL of the Party officers.

    Thank you.
    ColdWarrior
    http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com
    http://precinctproject.us

  • mrfixit10

    If Republicians do not stand now We The People will be left the chore of cleaning up the mess left behind.
    MOLON LABE

  • Jeff Cooper

    I agree; we did fine without it. Defunding Obamacare must happen (repealing it is a moral necessity!) but the GOP has nothing to offer except watered down versions (see Sen. McCain; Gov. Scott-FL; Rep. Ryan) that ensure taxpayers are on the hook to pay for someone else’s healthcare. Philosophically, the GOP believes that we are our brother’s keeper, which is in step with their democrat counterparts. The difference is purely a matter of how far the law will reach and how much it will cost. My point is that until GOP leadership puts together a serious reform plan, then procedural maneuvers will be the norm.