John McCain has become a traitor. I look forward to pissing on his grave. If Cole is even a tenth as bad, vote the scumbag out.

If you truly care about the Constitution, you will note the aversion of the founders of this country to the centuries-long tradition in England of eliminating political enemies through charges and bills of attainder related to treason. This led to Article 3, Section 3 of the Constitution, which limits treason to two things: 1) levying war against the United States; and 2) adhering to an enemy of the United States, giving them aid and comfort. You’ll notice there is no provision related to helping other Americans weaken the Constitution through the political process.

Find a new way to characterize Americans you believe are weakening the Constitution. You aren’t credible talking about defending the Constitution if you so loosely throw around the word “treason”.

I think all the Republicans and any other politician (not Leader) that went to dinner with Barrack Obama on the eve of Rand Pauls (Leader) filibuster should be Targeted by Tea Party and Independents for dismissal from service at next election Cycle I respect John McCains Service but nothing Else. If you can not do the Job you gotta go. After 40 years of doing nothing for Arizona and the US he has proved his ineffectiveness as a Senator. War Hero does not always equate to Leader. I used to like Lindsey Graham to but he needs to go to and Richard Burr needs to go. They are part of the problem because they yearn for power more than sticking with their party and the right issue. To not see that Obama invited them the same day as the filibuster to diminish the filibuster defies common sense. Do these people think we are stupid? Also if you can tell me something Specific (Orielly) that McCain accomplished outside of his military service please let me know.

Distinction without a difference. I apparently won the argument since you resorted to name calling.

or compliance with the commitment we made at the Camp David Accords, take your pick.

Not NC. 2nd district SC for Graham.

Tend to agree with you about Graham and McCain either selling out or making some kind of deal with Obama in exchange for their vote for Brennan. Even McConnell votes against Brennan but McCain and Graham join Dems in that vote? Something stinks on that for sure. And far too convenient for Graham to throw his vote for Brennan back in Rand Paul’s face, isn’t it?

Hope the folks in SC primary Graham. I genuinely do.

John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful …

See, you have learned something of value today. I feel good about that.

To be honest with you, Burr isn’t a power broker. He’s like a complacent dish rag for the most part. No fire in his belly about anything. He’ll go along to get along in a heartbeat, and we definitely need him out of there.

As Tbone mentioned above, no one mentioned a constitutional definition of treason or stringing anyone up so take your straw man arguments and red herrings and scram.

One can be a traitor to a cause, a Party, a certain set of beliefs, or the oath one takes when assuming a position in our military or upon assuming high office without being a traitor to one’s country.

Additionally; calling someone a traitor, (which I believe can be proven in one case after another in the case of John McCain depending on the context) doe not equate with formally charging anyone with Treason per se.

That said, In my diary from yesterday, http://www.redstate.com/aceintx/2013/03/07/at-what-point-does-the-republican-party-invite-the-broke-back-duo-to-join-the-democrat-party-where-they-belong/ I made a case that violating the Constituion in so many ways as the Attorney General and POTUS propose in setting themselves up as Judge, Jury and Executioner denying American Citizens they are free to define as terrorists by their own unappealable set of criterion while denying them their GOD given rights to a presumption of innocence, a right to trial by jury, a right to appeal their conviction,and sentence of death, the right of judicial rule, the separation of powers & Etc.

But let’s not take my word for what constitutes treason…lets look to the sages of old whom the founders looked to in WRITING the Constitution:

Let’s start with CATO:

I
must own, I know not what Treason is, if sapping and betraying the
liberties of a people be not treason, in the eternal and original Nature
of Things

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Or Thomas Jefferson himself on the suspension of Habeus Corpus which is in essence what Holder and Obama with the aid of McCain and Graham are proposing:

Why suspend the habeas corpus in insurrections and rebellions?
Examine the history of England. See how few of the cases of the
suspension of the habeas corpus law have been worthy of that
suspension. They have been either real treasons, wherein the parties
might as well have been charged at once, or sham plots, where it was
shameful they should ever have been suspected. Yet for the few cases
wherein the suspension of the habeas corpus has done real good, that
operation is now become habitual and the minds of the nation almost
prepared to live under its constant suspension

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Let’s try Patrick Henry on for size: (Please note, he is almost talking about McCain and Graham specifically at the biginning of his most famous quote):

It
is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill
the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I
keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I
should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of
an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above
all earthly kings. … Are we disposed to be of the number of those who,
having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things, which so
nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish
of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the
worst, and to provide for it. Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive
ourselves. … Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at
the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not
what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me
death!

Finaly we come to CICERO who I believe nails John Syney McCain and is Broke Back errand boy Graham to a tee:

A
nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through
all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the
traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his
victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the
baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a
nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the
pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no
longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague

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In conclusion I would point out, it’s a dangerous path you embark upon when you pop off about people’s ignorance and illiteracy lest you be proven a buffoon as a result!

When was the last time you heard a Democrat call another Democrat a name of any kind other than “illustrious”? Even when caught with a “life partner” who runs a gay house of ill repute out of the house. Or one who takes illicit trips to the Dominican Republic for undisclosed personal reasons. Or who has not-sex with an intern. All of them, “illustrious.” They just don’t do it.

Neither should Tom Cole.

Or John McCain who called Paul and Cruze “Wacko Birds” whatever that means after spending half the day trashing them from the floor of the Senate…I LOATHE THAT MAN

Just do a 13-hour filibuster and you will have saved up plenty.

You sound like one of those who joined the military to kill people, not defend the Constitution. Please tell me otherwise.

I ought to ban you outright for making a threat. But I’ll be Nice Bill and tell you to disengage from this thread now, and if you make another peep, you’re toast.

As much as I dislike McCain, the man is elected and re-elected by the people of Arizona and nominated by the Republican party. If you like him, defeat him instead of describing how you will desecrate his grave.

Be gone.