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Was the Vice Presidential debate really a draw?

Vice President Joe Biden took to the debate stage Thursday night in Danville, Ky., to square off against the man who may one day replace him as second in command.

That man was Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis.

It was clear from the start that Biden’s real mission was to undo President Barack Obama’s lackluster debate performance last week against Mitt Romney, the Republican nominee.

The vice president was also seeking to repair Obama’s image, which – in taking a beating – has moved poll numbers in the direction of the GOP ticket.

On issue after issue, Biden attempted to defend the Obama administration and painted the Romney/Ryan ticket as out of step with the needs and concerns of average Americans.

“A bunch of malarkey,” responded the vice president when Ryan warned that cutting defense spending would make the country weak.

Turning to the economy – and referring to the Romney/Ryan presidential ticket – Biden stated: “I’ve never met two guys who are more down on America across the board.”

Ryan erred on the side of caution and avoided mistakes.   Displaying a mastery of fiscal policy gained as chairman of the House Budget Committee, he assured swing voters that the policies of a Romney presidency would not decimate social programs.

While Biden has a well earned reputation for making gaffes, his worst moments came when he was not actually speaking but remained under the unblinking gaze of the camera.

As Ryan spoke, the split television screen picked up the vice president’s smirks, smiles, grins, scorn and general dismissiveness for the views of an opponent he repeatedly called “my friend.”

At one point, it clearly appeared that Biden was giving Ryan his middle finger.

In failing to suppress his feelings, the vice president came across as an immature, rude, insensitive and quirky person – an individual too unstable to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

While Biden’s frequent interruptions probably helped revive the Democratic Party faithful, they may have been too much for the less partisan viewer.

“Mr. Vice President, I know you’re under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but I think people would be better served if we don’t keep interrupting each other,” stated Ryan.

Where President Obama failed in his first debate against Mitt Romney, the vice president tried making up for lost ground.

Biden raised the Republican presidential nominee’s controversial comment, in which Romney casually mentioned that 47 percent of Americans do not pay income taxes and are government-dependent freeloaders who consider themselves victims.

“These people are my mom and dad, the people I grew up with, my neighbors,” said Biden. “They pay more effective tax than Governor Romney pays in his federal income tax. They are elderly people who, in fact, are living off of Social Security. They are veterans and people fighting in Afghanistan right now.”

Ryan defended Romney, drawing laughs from the audience when he responded, “The vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don’t come out of your mouth the right way.”

Biden retorted: “But I always say what I mean. And so does Romney.”

One of Ryan’s missions was to provide Americans with a softer side of Romney, a son of privilege whom many have viewed as being out of touch with the average voter.

Ryan told a story of how the GOP presidential nominee had come to the aid of a family whose children were hurt in an automobile accident.

He also praised Romney for giving 30 percent of his income to charity.

“Stop talking about how you care about people,” Biden retorted. “Show me something. Show me a policy.”

Biden came to the debate with far more experience than Congressman Ryan. He was elected to the U.S. Senate when Ryan was only 2 years old, has twice run for president and was matched up against then-Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin in a vice-presidential debate four years ago.

Instant polls following the debate suggested that viewers considered the matchup a draw.  This does not bode well upon Biden, a U.S. Senator for 36 years and an experienced debater.

As history has proven, vice-presidential debates rarely change the course of a campaign.  Any impact this debate may have will certainly be superseded when Obama and Romney for their second debate next Tuesday at Hofstra University. Audience members will get to ask most of the questions in this town-hall style debate.

A third and final debate between President Barack Obama and Gov. Mitt Romney will be held Oct. 22nd at Lynn University in Boca Raton, Fla.   I will be there.

COMMENTS

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    Romney leads in Nevada in the latest poll. Combined with leads in VA, FL, and CO, Romney is at 270 even without Ohio, but he’s on track to take that too.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/10/11/4903782/romney-leads-obama-in-nevada-based.html

    The point being: The First Debate reshaped the campaign and Team Obama thought or thinks this will win them back. They are strategically wrong. It wont. For that reason, this ‘draw’ will be another step on the road to Obama’s defeat.

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      ha! Who are the down-voting cowards? If you have an objection to me pointing out the truth … say it.

      • PowerToThePeople

        I find it to be comical and have turned it into a game. I am trying to tie or break Streiff’s record of 127. I am yet to make that and have only gotten up to 42 down votes, but one day soon I will anger the KOS kiddies off enough to get that record.

        Come on you testicles deficient wimps, give me the record.

      • audax1

        14 Kos wimps on here today and I just gave you an up vote!

  • Viet71

    he V.P. debate wasn’t a draw, except to critics and activists.

    Romney leads. Period.

    Let’s make sure America feels good voting for Romney and Ryan.

  • norris

    Which of these men would you trust with safety of the country?

  • celador2

    Obama made a comment at a fundraiser in San Fancisco that went public and helped Hillary in PA in 2008. He said voters clung to guns and religion because they feared—-
    He showed contempt for those voters but did carry PA in general election. Has he changed his mind?

    If gottcha private comments are to define the next debate or play a role, can not Romney bring back the ‘guns and religion’ comments from 2008? I would rather move on.

    I look forward to the upcoming final Pres debate on Foreign Policy with the presidential candidates one on one. This issue is ground zero. The US had a terror attack on Sept 11, 2012 in Benghanzi when four diplomatic workers were murdered by al queda. They had almost no security. Biden was ignorant of any security requests. Vote for him anyway, he asks?

    The fewer low ball remarks and side show issues like Fluke, 47% the better. These media-DNC issues have defined the race too much and may show up in the Townhall debate Oct 16. Democrats do better with low balls than do Republicans. Debt, taxes, size of governmet and national security matter and should be given time and focus.

    Biden is a side show much like 47%, Fluke or Big Bird funding and he tried to turn the VP debate into one. But it was not an entertaining one. He tried to keep the public from hearing Paul Ryan reply to questions, defend his record and challenge Biden’s record. Joe Biden offers not one positive thing to presidential politics imo. Biden gives me the creeps.

  • commonsenseobserver

    Daily Kos cowards.

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