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Republican Brand Hurts Romney While Obama Wins Culture Wars

Currently the Real Clear Politics electoral map shows President Obama in the lead with 221 electoral votes from states that are either solid, likely or leaning.

As most of you know 270 is the number needed to win the presidency.

Seeing this chart makes me want to tear my hair out and scream, “What is wrong with you people?”  How could Obama be leading 221 to Romney’s 181 with our economy stuck in neutral and millions of voters believing that it is Obama’s policies keeping us there?

Here is a possible answer to those important questions perplexing both the Romney campaign and the Republican Party.

The election is not just all about jobs and the economy.  It is also about negative opinions and cultural issues that voters hold about Republicans in general.

Let me explain.

Here is a line of questioning I emailed a handful of friends and family spread across the nation, some in battleground states, whom I know voted for Obama in 2008 and I assumed were planning on voting for him again:

Are there any circumstances you can imagine that would cause you to vote against Obama and vote for Romney instead?

Is there anything Obama could do or say?  For example, how about a negative change in your personal job situation or if the unemployment rate reached 14%?

Anything at all that would move you to change your vote away from Obama?

For the record, the demographics of this group are as follows:

All are in their 30’s and married, some have children. They are all white, college educated and gainfully employed.

Here are the answers I received via email.

Answer #1

To answer the questions, No, there is nothing Obama could do to ever have me vote for Romney or any other Republican. EVER. I vote democratic for the platform of woman’s rights, pro- choice, the environment, the separation of church and state, which seems in jeopardy if Republicans have their way.

I do not trust Romney at all. He is a flip flopper and says what he thinks his crowd wants to hear. There are more issues to being President than getting people jobs, and I am sick of that being the only focus. So, I would NEVER vote Republican.

Answer #2

Nope, there really is nothing that could get me to switch from Obama to Romney. I really don’t consider myself blindly loyal; I would support a moderate Republican over a weaker non-Obama Democratic candidate (like Huntsman for example), who is willing to be bi-partisan and have some damn common sense.

I just strongly dislike Romney and am nothing short of horrified at anyone supporting a constitutional amendment to TAKE AWAY people’s rights (especially for a party who supposedly wants minimal government intervention into society, that is a blatantly hypocritical thing to support), not to mention open and callous contempt for scientific fact and freedom of religion, along with a mean-spirited, childlike unwillingness to compromise and get things done in favor of a desire to unseat someone who has been trying to compromise in a bipartisan fashion.

Oh and not to mention complete flip-flopping on most issues and distancing himself from his state’s obviously successful healthcare reform, which is magnified by an almost comical wonkish, old-money, out-of-touch elitist attitude dripping from nearly every word that comes out of his mouth.

The longer the Republicans try to cater to their extreme fringe right and support backwards, short-sighted, bigoted social policies, the more sensible moderates–BOTH Democrat and Republican–they’re going to alienate. It’s saddening that GOP campaigns feel like they have to garner the support of the most fanatical minority instead of listening to the majority of people in their own party who just want a little fiscal responsibility and to leave more things for the states to decide.

Not to open a political debate – Lord knows we’ve had enough of that – but I hope you will pass on that sentiment, which is shared by millions of sensible hardworking Americans, to your focus group.

Answer #3

If Romney came out promising to decriminalize marijuana. ( yeah right) . (I’m hoping Obama will do it at the start of his second term).

If Obama imposed a military draft. (Not likely unless we get invaded by someone other than Mexico…)

If the Rominee converted to Tibetan Buddhism, vowed to sanction China completely, and learned to levitate by Halloween…

Honestly I am trying here, but this is an extremely unlikely proposition. The Republicans, with the help of the Boehner, Rove, Koch Inc, and their incessant campaigns against Planned Parenthood, gun control, the failed drug war, etc- just seem to have pushed themselves into an intractable position that is utterly unappealing to anyone educated outside of a fundamentalist / conservative church, or a bank… Lol.  They don’t make sense to the majority of secularized, liberal whites, and virtually represent the Enemy to all racial minorities with darker skin.

It is not so much Romney, as what he represents as the Republican candidate.

Answer #4

Lol – no I actually voted McCain (although now I’m leaning Obama for sure)

I like Romney- but Obama hasn’t done anything that I strongly disagree with… he’s played the fence pretty well. If he went off the partisan deep-end I would probably reconsider.

Certainly, this is not a scientific poll, but what this group of responsible adults in their mid-30’s are basically saying is social issues will keep them voting for Obama, and in the last case, strongly leaning toward Obama.

So what is the take-away from this little bi-section of Obama voters? It is that Culture Wars coupled with a negative view of the Republican Brand are playing a much larger role in this Obama vs. Romney campaign battle than anyone in the GOP cares to admit.

Therefore, it is not just “the economy stupid”, it is “the culture bro” that these voters in their thirties have grown up in and now believe it is Republicans and Romney who represent a threat to their values.

So while Romney keeps talking about jobs, jobs, jobs to these white upper middle class voters who now have good professional jobs, and who, I believe, represent millions of voters born in the 70’s and 80’s to baby-boomer parents, the economy is not of paramount importance.

Obama will get their vote, regardless, because in the words of one of the respondents, Republicans “don’t make sense to the majority of secularized, liberal whites, and virtually represent the Enemy to all racial minorities with darker skin.”

This attitude does not bode well for Romney’s prospects or for the future of the Republican Party.

Re-posted from PJ Media

See you all at Red State gathering. I am going for the first time!

 

 

 

COMMENTS

  • tnfriendofcoal101368

    You really didn’t pick 4 friends who voted for Obama in 2008, likely to vote for him again? I would also point out that your friends are probably not as hard hit by the economic downturn as most voters and that culture issues like planned parenthood are likely to be overrepresented in your sample.

    California and New York are the drivers behind the 221 electoral college vote total for Obama. There is also a drag on the current polling that show Michigan and Pennsylvania to be more in play than the King would like. If the election were held today, Romney would win 297 electoral votes by winning nearly every swing state (including Colorado and Michigan). The polling numbers reveal this, three things: 1) Undecided Voters always break against the incumbent 2) The Republican base always votes at higher percentages than the Democratic base (likely vs registered voters) 3) PPP, WaPo, NY Times and NBC are included in the average and they overpoll Democratic voters. #1 pushes Romney over the top (Obama has sat at 47% for 6 months – it’s his ceiling).

    Of course, Romney could get a case of the “I want to lose on purpose” take your advice, watch his 30% of his base throw up in their mouths and become the first Republican candidate including John McCain and Bob Dole not to turn out the base.

  • checkmate2012

    “I like Romney- but Obama hasn

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      “Wow, if they don

  • ww2nd95

    Romney needs to watch himself and his messaging and how it comes across. If the election gets framed as the incumbent who’s in over his head, but trying, vs the elitist jerk who doesn’t know what a doughnut is, wanted GM to fail, doesn’t care about the very poor, and likes to fire people… (though all of that is taken out of context) Obama gets an edge there. The economy is by far the most important topic and if you truly pay attention to politics and aren’t a complete leftist, you know Romney is the better choice. Unfortunately, most people do not pay attention to politics and likability and messaging plays a major roll in their decisions on who to pull the lever for.

    Honestly I think Romney needs to stop trying to play the average Joe, with his flannel shirt and blue jeans, that’s not him and people know that, and it comes across as phony. He needs to start acting like the CEO, who can come in, clean house, and put the country back on the right track.

    • acat

      Romney in blue jeans and flannel? That look is soooo Lamar Alexander…

      Further, you’re arguing about “framing”. I do not think “framing” is what most voters are going to be looking at .. they’re watching their 401ks evaporate, the value of their homes drop, their wages stagnate, and prices rise. They’re looking for a reason to not vote Obama .. Romney need only not stumble, and keep hitting Obama on the economy, and he’ll win.

      Mew

      • ww2nd95

        on the 401k thing. And of course the economy and Ocare are going to play major roles in the election. My point is, Romney cannot allow the election to get framed around him as the vulture capitalist, which Obama is trying to do. He cannot disregard likability. No mater how bad the economy is, that plays a factor.

        I’m just trying to be realistic here. Anyone with any sense is voting for Romney and the polls seem to be hardening. Most people know who they’re voting for. It’s the very few undecideds out there, who need to be swayed. And honestly, I don’t think bashing Obama on the economy alone is enough. With as bad as Obama has been, I don’t think he should be close to Romney, but he is.. to me that’s troubling.

        Romney needs to form some ideas and get them out their to the public. He cannot just continue to harp on repealing everything Obama’s done and expect that to be enough to swing the undecideds.

  • jude68

    Myra you have to have thge dumbest post that I have ever seen on this page. Go pedal that crap to someone without a brain. I cannot believe she has HER IMAGINARY friends that speak right out of a left wing script. Sorry Myra you have a personal agenda that you hide behind with BS!! Sorry if what you said were true honey then Obama’s Approval would be in the 50s. In fact dear, all the polls show that Obama’s BIGGEST LOST is with White Voters. The alleged White Voters you speak of WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR A GOP person anyway IF THEY WERE REAL!

    The Culture Wars…like what Myra…GAY MARRIAGE? ABORTION? sounds like YOUR OWN DISLIKE OF THE GOP PLATFORM that you spreadout over your Imaginary Friends.

    No Myra what bodes well for Romney is Messiah Like President that cannot get over 47 percent Approval in basically any poll…even when they skew it by 5, 6,7,8,9 and 10 plus Dems. AND THAT IS REGISTERED VOTERS.

    I will take that over your Blowharded and childish diatribe that you listed here based on your own desire to see the GOP change. Cut the crap. I worked for McCain (I loved that one…boy that friend is a WINNER…LOL). I will take states that continue to vote against Gay Marriage as a better sign then your alleged scotch drinking, whiskey sour downing and winse snob losers anyday of the week. Go deal with facts and take the Spaceship Earth back to reality…MYRA

  • jude68

    Undecideds HISTORICALLY MYRA break 8 to 1 for the Challenger…so go stick that in your DOES NOT BODE WELL FOR ROMNEY…LOL!!! By the way Myra who DOES NOT KNOW OBAMA???…LOL….He is stuck at 45-47 percent and that is all he will get in the Election!!

    Oh and Myra….on Gallup Obama’s approval is now back at 44 percent and dropping….He was as high as 48 (which is bad a well). President’s Myra generally get what their Approval Rating is within maybe a point….and Gallup is using Registered Voters Myra. His 48 was after his Immigration Bounce!!

    Yeah that bodes well for the Marxist!

  • Martin Knight

    Is that it?

    We’re supposed to be surprised by this?

  • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

    Based on the conservations I had with folks at RSG03 last year, I don’t think calling their views “extreme fringe right and support backwards, short-sighted, bigoted social policies” is going to go over ver well.

    Conservative views do not fit your profile. If you were one, you’d know that.

    • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

      that you’re wrong.

      My husband got his hair cut yesterday at a place near our house. In a conversation with the salon stylist (there’s no barber shop close by) who is a young woman in her 20′s, funky hair, tatoos, etc., he mentioned that I am active in politics and was at a local GOP meeting. Later in the conversation, she asked him, “So what do you think of ‘our’ candidate?” Based on her age, looks and previous conservations with her, he was surprised. He commented to her that he guessed there wasn’t a lot of Romney support among the other employees. Her response? “You’d be surprised. None of us wants to pay higher taxes, and most of us think Obama’s policies have failed.”

      Now, I can’t say for sure that these particular salon employees are liberals, but I don’t think it’s too far a stretch to guess they lean left. I base that on years of talking to various stylists in various areas of the country who did my hair. They were all, every single one of them, liberal.

      • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

        Even a Liberal can recognize that and have a hard time arguing otherwise.

        What has Obama done that actually WORKED? Solved our problems?

        Maybe Myra should have asked THAT question first!

      • Tbone

        part my hair on the left.

        • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

          I might switch, which can be a pretty traumatic thing for a woman to do. I try to make sure my doctors and those I do business with are conservative (yes, I’ve started asking), but finding a conservative hairdresser isn’t easy.

    • tnfriendofcoal101368

      I sent a question out on my facebook and restricted to the list of my facebook friends who I know are conservatives. I have this list because when I post anti-Obama comments, I end up having to argue with liberals which is akin to arguing with a 5 year old on whether or not it is raining when it is snowing. Here are the responses I got back:

      1) I like to keep my money so I’ll vote with Romney
      2) Are *^^&%$$#$%^&(*&*%^%$#^#%@%^%&^%&*#^$% crazy.
      3) The thought of voting for the ^%^&$*%^&(*)&*&*%%^#$^&%$%#&#% socialist Obama just made me throw up in my mouth.
      4) Agree w/comment #2

      I draw the conclusion that Obama’s socialist job killing policies that accentuate steal from me to give to Obama campaign contributors is failing Obama.

      Honestly, I didn’t really do that but it was as scientific a study as Myra’s.

      • Melody Warbington (rwm52)

        That sounds pretty similar to what I’m hearing in my unscientific polls as well.

        I usually warn the few liberal friends who want to be FB friends that they’re not going to like my page since I don’t filter my comments, and I post a lot of political stuff. I tell them in advance that I won’t take offense if they “unfriend” me. So far, they’re hanging around.

  • bbjaylive

    Shouldn’t you be watching Aaron Sorkin’s new conservative-bashing or something.

    Pro-tip: Keep the monumentally stupid diatribes and rants in PJ Media and AWAY from here.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    “the separation of church and state, which seems in jeopardy if Republicans have their way. ”

    Well, there’s a brainwashed idiot right there.

    You’d THINK that the concept of Government staying out of our freedom to worship is a basic bedrock American thing, but Obama administration has gone out of its way to tear down that wall of separation by making demands that impinge on religious liberty. Sepcicially the contraceptive mandate that forces religious institutions to take up health plans that violate their conscience.

    So who is harming separation of church and state? Obama and his administration!

    NOW, that phrase is from someone who cares about ‘choice’ – if she means school choice, healthcare choice or retirement choice – the Democrats want to deny her choice. If she means the choice to kill an unborn human being and throw it in a dumpster, well that act of barbarism is ok in progressive circles, but why people who find clubbing baby seals horrific would be in favor of that remains a mystery.

    Being in favor of a form of legalized murder will certainly make one suspicious of those in politics who base their values on religious principles that forbid such actions, and so often this attack on Republicans for being ‘theocrats’ is really a proxy for “Hey Republicans, stop bering your ethical values to the political discussion … only MY VALUES ARE VALID, YOURS ARE NOT.” The same progressives who are livid about injecting religion into politics dont bat an eye over nanny-statism driven by a religious cultish Gaia view on the environment. “Hey, lets ban XYZ because Mother Nature tells us so.” In short, its a hypocritical selective rationalization for discounting some values (namely traditional values), and when you peel back the bumper sticker talking point , you find it’s hollow meaningless rhetoric. This person should be arm in arm with the Catholic church if she/he REALLY cares about gettign Govt out of meddling in church’s business and vice versa. (I am guessing Jonah Goldberg’s book might have something to say about this.)

    So … you basically have a morally confused person who is not looking at facts clearly and clinging to out-of-touch talking points to justify a bad voting decision.

    Nope, can’t really help there, except maybe a visit to the unemployment line would wake them up as to how Obama is really bad news for ALL of us.

  • westcoastpatriette

    screams stupidity. Now we know who Myra represents. And, why would you want to infect the RS conference with your presence? You can take your extreme left-wing positions on social policies and cram them.

  • zachv

    Myra posts something that — quite frankly — is pretty darn obvious. A quarter to a third of my generation, Millennials, is irreligious. Available abortions, gay marriage, porn are all accepted by a 60/40 margin. Pick a social issue; the “liberal” side is more acceptable to my generation than any other (Gen X, Boomer, Silent).

    So the idea that the liberal Gen Xers think Republicans are evil when it comes social issue … duh? My generation as a whole is off the cliff when it comes to social issues, why wouldn’t the Gen Xers who are self-identified liberals be the same?

    • runner12

      get older, because they become more informed, generally speaking. As someone who is in the bridger generation between X’rs and Millenials, I find that the breakdown is closer to 50/50. Although where I live, it is probably more 60/40 breaking towards more socially conservative values.

      When people cease deriving their moral positions from Jersey Shore, TMZ, etc. and escape the liberal halls of the universities (who only teach liberal group think), they tend to become more conservative.

      • runner12

        With Obama in office, that numbet breaking for more socially conservative positions is probably closer to 70/30 where I live.

      • gretchenstreetman

        The issue I’m seeing with my generation (20-30s) is that they are shedding the conservative & liberal identifiers completely and are focusing on social issues that affect us where we are and on economic issues down the road. Frankly, the issue for this generation is about old vs. young, not conservatives vs. liberals. What many of my peers see is an aging 55+ population that is going to literally suck us and our kids dry via SS and Medicare expenditures, leaving nothing for us. So when young folks see calls by conservatives for tighter controls on government spending without serious proposals for limiting defense spending and cutting SS and Medicare benefits, the “fiscal restraint” push rings really, really hollow. You may not agree with it, but that’s what is is and it’s not going to change.

        One of my friends said to me the other day, “You know, we’re $15 trillion in the hole and I’ve contributed nothing to causing it, but I’m going to have to pay it off. I wonder if we’re going to in some way hate our parents and grandparents for doing this to us because they did it under both parties.”

        Maybe no one wants to hear that, but it’s (at least anecdotally) true. Pretty sad.

        • aesthete

          The 50+ voting public which prevents entitlement reform from happening is the vampire sucking the American taxpayer dry; socialists couldn’t have asked for a more demanding constituency for bigger government. Most domestic government expansion can be laid at their feet.

          • gretchenstreetman

            The generation I speak about is just as concerned about defense spending as entitlements. A number of my friends work for defense contractors and make a ton of money (I’m talking 24 year olds clearing $160-180K/yr doing secure IT work), and while they love the pay and the benefits (I actually used to work for a private defense contractor as well and can attest that the money and benes are fantastic), we all have had those moments where we realize, “Wow, I’m making bank but ultimately this is being funded by the U.S. taxpayer and my generation is going to have to pay all this deficit spending back some day.” Problem is that no conservatives are really going to call for cutting defense spending, so we continue. But hey, me and my defense contractor friends all take 2-3 yearly vacations to St. Maarten, so I guess it’s working out well for us right now. :) And yes, I’m being sarcastic about it “working out.”Not a good thing long term.

          • aesthete

            of our generation is overstated by some (plenty are fine with spending money on frivolous crap) — but yes, defense cuts are heavily supported by the 18-35 demo.

            IMO, there are potential gains to be made in that demo by running on a platform of a smaller defense footprint and entitlement reform.

          • gretchenstreetman

            nt

        • runner12

          with that point about entitlements. They are not very popular, believe it or not among us. Most reasonable and independently thinking people understand that these programs will eventually bankrupt us.

          But I think an imprortant distinction needs to be made between Conservatives and Republicans. The two are not the same. If Conservatives held the majority of the GOP seats in Congress, we would see entitlement reform and spending cuts. The problem is that the old guard GOP still holds the majority in the party. We are making strides, but it is going to take time to weed them out.

          As for defense spending, I think that most people will find that is the least of my generation’s concerns. Living in the wake of 9/11 and the rise of radical Islam, most are not in favor of drastic cuts there. Common sense elimination of waste, yes. But no drastic measures.

          • gretchenstreetman

            Re: defense spending, I guess it just depends on who your friends are. My discussion above re: defense is based on my own experience and quite a few of my friends experiences. And while very few of these folks are for drastic defense cuts (kinda against our own self interest, you know?), we all feel that you can’t really expect to pay 20 somethings $100K/yr via private defense contractors and there not be a short/mid/long term fiscal problem., that’s all.
            Thanks again.

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          The labels are important. Because we got here primarily because of a label, Progressive-ism, or liberalism, or leftism, or whatever you want to call it.

          It is very true that many who called themselves conservative went along with these sorry prescriptions. But at least there were a few who fought against them, and they were all on the political right.

          • gretchenstreetman

            Maybe it’s just a generational thing, but you’d be hard pressed to explain to a vast majority of my generation how gay marriage prohibitions are not analogous to anti-miscegenation laws. Sure, that may seem ridiculous, but that’s the way it is. All of these social issue fights are pretty much over as far as many 20-30 somethings are concerned and these are older people’s fights, not ours. And no, I’m not trying to get into a gay marriage debate, I’m just saying that the cat’s out of the bag, so to speak–we’ve grown up more or less accepting homosexuality as a generation and that’s not going to stop. To be clear, I’m not justifying this mindset, just giving context.

          • aesthete

            Views on gay marriage among the 18-35 crowd range from indifference to support. Vehement opposition is associated with loons. The anti-gay marriage crowd has not done a good message at all of messaging, IMO.

            Fortunately, I’d say that our generation has a much healthier view on life issues than the previous one.

          • tnfriendofcoal101368

            creamed at every voting booth in large numbers and not only in the Bible belt either. It gets creamed in large enough numbers that it can’t just be old people and values voters voting against it. I suspect gay marriage is the ultimate “Bradley” affect issue. Standing outside a polling booth, talking to exit poller, next to his friends and buddies…those 18-35 year olds are saying they voted against defining marriage as man and woman but behind the curtains in the voting booth – he voted affirmative. I can’t prove this but I do suspect it happens….

          • aesthete

            The 18-35 demo almost always breaks overwhelmingly for gay marriage according to exit polling, and the 35+ voters break overwhelmingly against.

            Old folks vote; young folks stay home.

            Thus, the discrepancy.

          • tnfriendofcoal101368

            The exit polls always look like a close vote and it never is. Like I said somewhere in the exit polling, there is a cog that is loose. Look at California Prop 8, it passed 53/47 on Nov 4th, 2008, amidst a 80% turnout of the vote, amidst the largest turnout of 18-35 year olds in American election history in a deep blue state on the same ballot that Barack Obama won California 61/37. This after polling on Oct 31st had said it wouldn’t pass and the exit polling was that it would be close. We know African Americans split with the vote by wide margins but the exit polling reflected that. There is a Bradley affect going on where people tell exit pollers one thing standing around their buddies but when it is them and the curtain, they don’t lie – they vote their hearts.

          • zachv

            18-24 was 11% of vote 36/64
            25-29 was 09% of vote 41/59
            30-39 was 17% of vote 52/48
            40-49 was 22% of vote 59/41
            50-64 was 26% of vote 51/49
            65+ was 15% of vote 61/39

            Elderly voters vote more. Ages 40+ made up 63% of the vote (with each age group being against Prop 8), while ages 18-39 made up only 20% of the vote and were against Prop 8 by a 30 to 20 pt margin.

            63% of vote voting for > 20% of vote voting against

            http://media.sacbee.com/smedia/2008/11/05/18/prop8.source.prod_affiliate.4.pdf

          • zachv

            Elderly voters vote more. Ages 40+ made up 63% of the vote (with each age group being against Prop 8), while ages 18-29 made up only 20% of the vote and were against Prop 8 by a 30 to 20 pt margin.

          • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

            while what I was mostly talking about was a fiscal crises that is existential to your generation. That is a lot more important.

          • runner12

            And, no offense intended to anyone, but the fact that half of my generation is either ambivalent or suuports gay marriage is not necessarily a feather in our cap.

            I mean, the moral views of half or more of my generation pretty much stink. We grew up with a “whatever you want to do, do it” kind of mentality. It is why employers are complaining about what the colleges are turning out these days.

            Not that it is all our fault, mind you. Parents pretty much abandoned ship and looked to the schools to raise their kids for them. Even some who took their kids to church expected the kids to absorb values by osmosis versus actually talking to them about things.

          • naraht

            Gay Marriage and Abortion is that there are a significant number of arguments made on Abortion that will convince Atheists and Agnostics…

            And as those who are pro-gay marriage get older, they, for the most part stay pro-gay marriage. The other thing that has happened is that when the polling gives three choices: Gay Marriage, Civil Union or No-recognition, the number supporting No-recognition has stayed about the same, but those supporting Civil Union only have shifted to supporting Gay marriage.

            And in regards to California, the polling has shifted in the last 4 years far enough that if the vote were to shift that much, Prop-8 would have failed…

  • aesthete

    If you’re race-baiting, worried about the Koch Bros and Repub “extremism”, and talking about Obama’s super-secret plan to decriminalize marijuana (as if!), you’re a terminal case and there’s nothing that will make you vote Dem. You might as well be polling the Obama fluffers who send out the DNC fundraising emails, for all that it matters.

  • rightlane1111

    Because the href does not work on this site…please cut and paste into your browsers because…while Romney was booed…this has been out there for a long time…AND NOBODY has seen this.

    Part I http://www.youtube.com/embed/3CmkbShVqNA?feature=player_embedded

    Part II http://www.youtube.com/embed/gy6odnqyLeU?feature=player_embedded

  • emptybucket

    and get that focus away from the economy. Obama is beating that class warfare drum several times a day and Myra isn’t just drinking kool-aid, she’s smoking some of Obama’s stash.

  • Tbone

    You need to disassociate yourself from them

  • zachv

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/07/11/the-republican-brand-hurts-romney-while-obama-wins-the-culture-wars/

    • http://www.myraadams.com Myra Adams

      Thanks for telling me about Hot Air. More places for people to bash to the messenger. The whole point of this piece was to see if Obama supporters would change their mind under any circumstances.
      For the record I am a conservative and brave so I still plan on attending the Red State Gathering :-)

  • renny

    have been lost to the Dems. in the states of FL, NH, NV, IO, OH, CO, and NC while Reps. and Ind.’s have picked up c. 475,000 voters in those states. PA and VA were not in the analysis but both have Rep. gov.’s and VA was a major state in the suits against ocare before the Supreme Ct.

    Supposedly, the big o registered 2,000,000 new voters in 2008 (he didn’t but ACORN did a number with the numbers), but none of that “spark” is left today.

    Of young people with families in their 30s in my family since the o admin., my son was out of work 3 mons. and went into consulting and now flies anywhere from TX to CA each week (super commuter), my nephew was out of work 6 mons. and then learned all his contributions to his med. ins. had been uesd by his ex-boss for reg. expenses, and my niece’ husband was unemployed so long the family broke up and divorced. Those people wouldn’t vote for the o if he offered them the veep spot on the ticket.

    So, where this diary got her “friends” who all voted for obamanation before and think he is doing wonderfully now is probably down that woodchuck hole where they keep Punxsutawny Phil.

  • cactusjack

    Justice Earl Warren II, oops, I mean Roberts, just gave Obama a big electoral gift with the non-thinking crowd out there: free healthcare!! (Or, almost.) Just go pay your co-pay of $5 and get you some free brain surgery. And an appendectomy while you’re at it. It’s all free!!! And its your constitutional right!Thank you Mister Obama, thank you Mister Obama!!!

  • Dave_A

    There is a REASON the Left is so interested in social issues…

    They know that the easiest way to replace a tradition of freedom & capitalism with one of supposed ‘fairness’ and socialism, is to attack & destroy the social foundations of that tradition.

  • Dave_A

    We have one ranting about the Kochs & Rove…

    One who just wants to get legally stoned…

    One bashing banks, as well as Christianity

    They are all fundamentally opposed to the ENTIRE GOP AGENDA, not just the social issues.

    They are… Unsalvagable.

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