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There is no honor in shame.

By: Mark Impomeni (Diary)  |  November 15th, 2009 at 07:45 PM  | 

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Over 90,000 Americans were killed in the Pacific during World War II defending the United States and the world from Japanese aggression.  Thank God many of the survivors passed on before they had to witness the President of the United States bowing low to the Emperor of Japan.

To those veterans of the Pacific still living today, I say thank you.  And I apologize on behalf of my generation for producing a president so bent on dishonoring your service and your buddies’ sacrifices.

Mr. Obama, you are an embarrassment.

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  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    that Obama is the leader of the free world that Japan wants to keep free..

    • christiansocialist

      do you spend most of your time on? Come on, seriously. We know now that you are not of Earth.

      • CincoSolas_del_Bronx
        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • CincoSolas_del_Bronx
          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
          • CincoSolas_del_Bronx
          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
      • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway
      • JadedByPolitics

        There is NO such thing as a Christian Socialist…now run along like the stupid pathetic lefty you are and play with the sludge that is your kind at another site…mmmky?

        OBTW your pathetic leader is an EMBARRASSMENT to all American loving Patriots! I look forward to his BOW to the next President of the United States of America and you can bet that he/she will LOVE their country more then themselves! TROLL!

        • jeffreywturner

          They aren’t socialists by choice though. As a matter of fact, many of them wish not to be socialists so badly, that they board tiny rafts and brave the mighty Atlantic Ocean in hopes to make it to Florida, where they will have the freedom not to be socialists.

          • JadedByPolitics

            they are that but don’t want to be, so upon escape they are Christian’s.

          • jeffreywturner

            Socialists have never had Christianity forced upon them, but Christians have socialism forced upon them all over the world.

      • RedBeard

        Nice of your mom to let you use her computer, but really, hit the sack. You need to be wide awake for that big sophomore algebra test tomorrow.

        • antisocial

          Mom is writing the sick note.

      • louesc

        Obama is Un-Presidential when he bows to The Emperor Of Japan and continues to make America weak.

        https://www.americanpatriotsprevail.com/Obama_Bows_To_The_Emper.html

        • martyinaz

          He was looking into the shine on the emperor’s shoes and checking his hair do. On the other hand…he might have been breaking wind.

    • malbis

      …with his clumsy too-deep bow, made while attempting to shake hands at the same time (a major violation of Japanese custom as Thomas Lifson at American Thinker pointed out), our faux pas-prone President did indeed embarrass both himself and our nation. Everyone should be scared that a guy who obviously does so many things without thinking them through is where the ultimate “buck” stops.

      Then again, I think Obama’s bow in Japan and before that, in Saudi Arabia, was economically motivated. I really wonder what he is doing and saying behind closed doors in China.

      From the 1940 feature film Ghost Breakers, starring the late, great, Bob Hope and Paulette Goddard:

      Scientist: “It?s worse than horrible, because a Zombie has no will of his own. You see them some times, walking around blindly with dead eyes, following orders, not knowing what they do, not caring.”

      Bob Hope: “You mean, like Democrats?”

    • louesc

      Obama is Un-Presidential when he bows to The Emperor Of Japan and continues to make America weak. Obama has no honor check him out in the video below. What a joke!

      https://www.americanpatriotsprevail.com/Obama_Bows_To_The_Emper.html

  • dforston

    Jake Tapper strikes… http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/15/japan-expert-to-abc-yes-obamas-bow-made-him-look-like-an-idiot/

    My favorite line…”Kyodo News is running his appropriate and reciprocated nod and shake with the Empress, certainly to show the president as dignified, and not in the form of a first year English teacher trying to impress with Karate Kid-level knowledge of Japanese customs.”

  • http://xmmlbchat.blogspot.com katesmith

    Age 87, doing fine. I have a picture of Dad next to his Stearman plane (a biplane)in the 1940′s which I post every Veterans Day, Memorial Day, Fourth of July, and the like. He flew B29′s. He is like others who survived the experience in that he does not like to talk about it. He doesn’t get mad or anything, he just doesn’t want to go into it. Some years back someone in the service tracked him down to see if he would participate in a kind of recognition program for these rapidly dwindling survivors. Dad kindly declined. Japan was a very big deal to these men.

    • nessa

      It was brutal. Of the roughly 22,000 Japanese on Iwo Jima there were only about 1000 who surrendered after defending the island for over a month. I have a great uncle who was with the 6th Infantry Division in the Philippines, he doesn’t talk about it much but has shared a little with me, I tried to explain that my Iraq and Afghanistan experiences don’t hold a candle to what he did but to no avail. Yea it means alot, like failure to show respect for the flag means alot.

      Thank your Father for me, our Armed Forces today would not be what they are if people like your father hadn’t set the standard for us to follow.

      • roscopico

        And katesmith, thank your dad for me. There is no parallel to the atrocities of Bataan, and the common equivocation that our actions in obtaining information from hardcore jihadis is somewhat akin to the atrocities committed in a true war of attrition is at best harebrained.
        Good people like you, nessa, and like your dad, katesmith, that made this world safe and prosperous for people willing to jealously keep what others have fought to protect.

        May G-d bless you both (and your Dad as well, katesmith).

  • Wing Zero

    Please save us. Please.

  • somethingrotten

    n/t

    • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway
      • roscopico
    • antisocial

      mmm… mmm.. mmm.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
      • eburke
        • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway

          …with all the trolls registering, we’ll run out of all possible alphanumerical combinations for usernames.

  • Scope

    when they disebarked, and, being shot into oblivion, but, the US did prevail. Obama is worse than an embarrasement, he is a Communis appologist. From what I read, he couldn’t even get the “BOW” right. You don’t bow at the same time you are shaking hands with the royalty. This idiot in chief is trying to chart his own Liberal course which doesn’t include protocal, he is turning protocal on it’s head. I wonder if the Japanese royalty came here if they would bow to Obama. I would like to believe that he is just an idiot, but, he has an agenda, and, it ain’t pretty for the US.

    • antisocial

      what was independence about?

  • tjexcite

    NT

  • Duke

    The days when our President went to Japan and upchucked on their leaders.

    As embarassing as that incident might have been, it’s nothing compared to our moonbeam messiah bending over and sticking his nose in the Emperor’s groin.

    What a clown!

  • christiansocialist

    Bowing is a form of etiquette in Japan, just like shaking hands in this country. We are, by the way, allies with Japan now because of, not in spite of, the sacrifices our soldiers made in the 1940′s.

    America, as the founding fathers intended, should never be an imperial power. Your apparent disgust at the President’s respect for other nations indicates to me that you are simply an American imperialist.

    • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway

      Leaders don’t bow to other leaders, Emperor or not.
      Oh, guess I explained it right there. Obama isn’t a leader.

    • nessa
    • JadedByPolitics

      BOWING subserviently to ANYONE let alone the Japanese or the Saudi King…..EVER! but the idiots within the WH who have NEVER know diplomacy would NOT know that because every thing they know they learned from Saul Alinsky!

    • Mark Impomeni

      That’s obsiquiousness.

      Look it up.

      And if you think that the sight of the President of the United States bowing to the Japanese emperor would not seriously tick off any living veteran of the war in the Pacific, then you don’t know any veterans, or have any clue about the war.

    • Hooah_Mac

      Do you understand bowing in Japanese culture? I’m guessing your sum total knowledge is what youheard someone say about it on NPR one day. There are protocols for this sort of event, and our President is not in keeping with them. This gesture does not say to the Japanese, “I respect your customs”, it says “I am subservient to you.”

      Actually this is surprising, because the President usually saves gratuitous grovelling for when he is meeting with our enemies. Arrogant disdain is usually the attitude he takes towards countries friendly to the U.S., particularly the ones that went to Iraq with us.

      • redneck_hippie

        Hiroshima and Nagasaki to apologize, so he is doing it with his bow.

        • Mark Impomeni

          This was the apology, no doubt about it. And everyone in Japan knows it.

      • nessa
        • nessa
      • ocleverone

        This bow, forget about the State Department’s “Thou shall not bow”, was way too deep indicating that he was subservient or he wanted something from the Imperial couple.

    • roscopico
    • mbecker908

      In 1994 Bill Clinton met the Emperor of Japan and nodded his head. The Times had this to say about that...

      It wasn’t a bow, exactly. But Mr. Clinton came close. He inclined his head and shoulders forward, he pressed his hands together. It lasted no longer than a snapshot, but the image on the South Lawn was indelible: an obsequent President, and the Emperor of Japan.

      [snip]

      But the “thou need not bow” commandment from the State Department’s protocol office maintained a constancy of more than 200 years. Administration officials scurried to insist that the eager-to-please President had not really done the unthinkable.

      So, the NYT says that a President bowing to an Emperor would be “unthinkable”. And you seem to think it’s OK.

      Yep. you’re an asshat.

    • Hooah_Mac

      In this clown decrying imperialism in a defense of President Obama bowing to an EMPEROR?

  • http://keydesignsllc.com bkeyser

    http://tinyurl.com/yktfbo8

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    http://tinyurl.com/yfzmc7y

    Do think there’s any way we can swap Barry for say, an eggroll or something? I like eggrolls.

  • RedBeard

    …52% of the voters actually thought this ignorant clod, this arrogant-without-cause egomaniac, this rabid socialist, this “community organizer” without even a sliver of administrative experience or qualifications, would make a dandy chief executive and commander-in-chief.

    Too bad we can’t institute some form of term limits on ignorant and/or comatose voters.

    • memez

      Nt

    • larueladue

      Some minimal ability to pass a civics test and show knowledge of current events would help. Won’t happen though….

      • Achance
      • bucklebuck

        There ought to be reasonable qualifications to vote besides a pulse. Such as having paid property taxes or money deducted from a paycheck at some point in your life.

  • centrist1968

    nt

    • mschmitt
      • Duke

        It’s better than shoe-licking anyday.

    • Mark Impomeni

      He just didn’t have Obama around yet to teach him that vomiting on foreign leaders is bad form.

      But what about vomiting out apology after apology? That’s okay, right?

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • centrist1968

    was that some of you want to criticize Obama, no matter what. Did you also defend Dubya, when he was puking on this very same man? In other words – which of the two incidents was better for the nation’s reputation and image?

    HOW does Obama bowing as a sign of respect impact your day-to-day life? It doesn’t — but it goes a very, very long way toward winning us alliances and friendships throughout the world.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Name the movie.

      • Taniwha

        what do I win?

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          It’s on your User Profile. It’s just invisible.

          • ceili_dancer

            n/t

    • RedBeard

      Bush was physically ill, not degrading himself and his country on purpose.

      • RedBeard

        I work up a nice taut little reply, and the intended recipient gets vaporized before I can deliver it properly. ;-)

        • mschmitt
    • mschmitt

      In a way, I envy you.

      Unfortunately, for those of us who are concerned with more than our personal lives, the world is slightly more complicated.

      In your view, we should do things like withdraw from Iraq because it matters little to your life whether Iraq is free or ceded to a dictatorial tribal regime. We recognize the importance of introducing democracy to that region of the world — which is culturally stuck in the 12th century but carrying 20th and 21st century arms.

      Someone such as yourself could care less whether the US President, long considered “the Leader of the Free World”, grovels before another nations emperor. We recognize the message this sends to the rest of the world — weakness. Only a weak nation submits before another; such an act is seen only in circumstances of military conquest. To those cursed of us with a perspective of history, such a bow feels more like a declaration of surrender than of a sign of respect, and it is shocking to us.

      We are worried about our future, and the future of our nation, 5, 10 and 100 years down the road. You fret about all the injustice in the world, laugh off our silly notions, and are worried only about where your next meal will come from. We, whom you mock, will not be surprised when you come to demand that meal from us.

      • mschmitt
  • antisocial

    Every day it gets worse. What kind of a man can run around the world insulting his countrymen? He was not appointed to this job. He ASKED for it. And now he doesn’t miss any opportunity to insult.

    • lycurgus

      really?

      I thought us conservatives we’re supposed to be against thin-skined PC willy nillys

      • JadedByPolitics

        get the US? As a Conservative who loves their country it goes without saying really that everything the idiot in chief does overseas is INSULTING and EMBARRASSING! What is PC about being insulted?

        • lycurgus

          and how they always cry about this or that being insulted

          being insulted is for the weak… its a feeling to be ignored, not ruminated on

          but I see your point

          NOBAMA could never insult me, I don’t give him that standing

          • JadedByPolitics

            of the man who holds the highest office in the US and is We The People’s representative around the world is weak. WE love our country WE would die for our country and WE are INSULTED and DISGUSTED when someone treats her like dirt! It is not he that has that standing it is what he represents (our country) to ME that has that standing.

          • antisocial

            YOUR Representative. Leader of YOUR country. When he bows to Japanese Emperor I feel bad. If subservience was OK, British were not that bad.

            PS: Even if a Republican did it, I would still feel insulted.

            PPS: I am a human being so I have feelings. My feelings help me fight with more passion.

      • antisocial

        I don’t think I can even engage in a conversation. You just won’t get it.

  • lycurgus

    this goes back to Carter

  • Sera63

    severely wounded on Guadalcanal. Lying in a line of dead Marines, a Corpsman was just about to push his dog-tags between his teeth when the Corpsman saw my great-uncle’s eyes flutter. He was saved, patched up on a hospital ship, and returned to duty and further island hopping. He is still alive today, and his wish…after his death…is to be cremated and his ashes spread in the Pacific; in order to be with his buddies.

    My wife is the granddaughter of a former member of the Japanese Imperial Army. He was stationed in Nanking for the majority of WWII. My mother-in-law, born in Nanking during the Japanese occupation, lost family in Nagasaki. (She never speaks of it…my wife is the one who told me.)

    Even allowing for both of the above statements, and the fact that Japan is an ally today, it is an affront to the memory of those who fought and died protecting our nation for our President to bow to the Emperor of Japan. He is truly clueless.

    • lycurgus

      the wounds are fresh

      if anything, its a shame we aren’t still at war

      • Sera63

        but the history is still real. My wife’s grandfather had one request for his daughter: do not marry a blue-eyed American. She did. Not only did my wife’s grandfather show respct for her choice; he was a fantastic grandparent to my wife.

        My great-uncle’s response when he found out I was marrying an American of Japanese descent? “Don’t tell her about my Marine days.” I didn’t follow that advice…and they get along great.

        The military war ended in 1945. The fact that 20 years later an Air Force Airman and a Japanese girl could fall in love…and grace me with my wife…is why I love my country. And respect my mother-in-law’s country as well.

        It still does not mean our nation’s leader bows to any other, at any time.

  • smagar

    In the 1908 Olympics, in London, the US team did not dip its flag to the King of England as the team marched in the opening parade. Irish-American athletes on the team saw to it.

    In response to the following press uprorar, US team captain Martin Sheridan (a native of County Mayo) reportedly replied “This flag dips to no earthly king.”

    What a great American tradition.

    Who told President Obama that is was his to disregard?

    • gekster

      No one is better, no one worse.

      That was until Obama came along.

      • gekster

        typing to fast for my own good

      • ecroper

        We are Americans, bowbama unfortunatly, is the weakest link. I would have said “OUR weakest link” But I didnt vote for him and I dont claim him. And, well never mind, who the heck is christiansocialist.

  • douglaswarren

    This is my first time commenting. I’ve been reading redstate for a few months now. The entry last week when we found out the RNC had been funding abortions was the one that drove me to actually register with the site to say something on here. Alas, a 24 wait! Haha.

    But yes, am I paranoid? IMO, there is absolutely zero reason for him to greet the Japanese leader in this manner. He and his advisors and czars know the reaction it would recieve back home. They may be conniving and subversive but they’re not dumb. They’re calculating, or at least they think so.

    It couldn’t be that he’s PURPOSEFULLY trying to agrivate us, the so called “teabaggers”? Are we positive we aren’t being baited and used?

    I hope not but does anyone else get that feeling? Because he KNOWS this wasn’t a good idea. He knows.

    • http://www.meetup.com/dcworksforus Kenny Solomon

      …..Especially if there’s someone out to get you.

      It’s getting kind of, sort of, maybe like a tad of an inkling clearer in the fog of an American Idol mentality that the current administration may actually be looking to have someone or some group do something really REALLY stupid, solely so they can clamp down with an iron fist, vise and whatever else they want to……

      I honestly still think they’re going to keep trying the Swine Flu/H1N1 propaganda and attempt to take it to the point of purposely creating a mass panic.

      a.k.a. The crisis too good to waste, courtesy of Mr. Alinsky, plus Cloward & Piven.

      Got milk guns ?
      Good.
      Buy more.

      — — — — —

      Oh yeah…. Welcome to RedState !

      Cheers !

    • antisocial

      Maybe this is designed to divert attention from Afghanistan dithering. Or Maybe Health Insurance fraud. Maybe away from Copenhagen. We don’t know.

      Even if that is true, this still is very bad.

      • douglaswarren

        See, I’m just starting to get the feeling that it’s not about diverting OUR attention antisocial. Their strategy may be to distract eveyone else with US.

        And it may just work…

        • douglaswarren

          Can he galvanize enough of America against US?

    • The_Gadfly

      I would say that with respect to this bowing and events similar to it, the most defining characteristic of The Big 0 is that he is embarrassed to be an American. Being a proud American is contrary to his Marxist-Leninist upbringing, and finding himself now the leader of our country he suffers great cognitive dissonance in trying to play the roll. He attempts to compensate by apologizing for everything we have done, because he believes it was mostly evil. So I don’t think it is so much purposeful in the sense that he is consciously trying to enrage us and start violence. But it certainly is purposeful in his trying to “make amends” for what he thinks we have done wrong. Since those actions tend to be what in a somewhat earlier age would have been regarded as fighting words, it can look to us like he is purposefully trying to enrage us.

      On the other hand, I’m at the point where the I don’t think the distinction should in any way mitigate our response.

      In my volunteer work there have been a few occasions when I was required to interact with Japanese natives. I tried to avoid it as much as possible for two reasons. First and foremost, I am the quintessential ugly American: we live in the greatest country on the planet, part of the reason it is the greatest is because we are all equal, and if you don’t like that it sucks to be you. Secondly, and as something that would also carry the argument absent the first reason, the traditions are rigid and complicated. Do it wrong, and it is more offensive than not doing it at all. The Japanese accept that non-Japanese don’t understand bowing, and therefore accept that non-Japanese commit no offense when they do not bow in greeting. Even if I were to accept the premise that this was intended as a sign of cultural respect, The Big 0 still got it wrong. Even on the most basic level, as leader of the free world, he is on equal footing with the emperor of Japan. Therefore his bow should have been equal to the bow the emperor made to him. Since the emperor did not bow, he shouldn’t have either.

    • noufa

      Putting aside his lack of respect for the American Presidency, he reveals himself to be a total sycophant. Again.

  • 10ksnooker

    does not know what a fool he is making of himself.

    Bring the GITMO terrorist to American soil, make the place they stay the biggest terror target on earth.

  • Saije

    In another time and place the Japanese Emperor and his family might have been killed or banished to a foreign land by the conquering forces. But the allies allowed Japan to keep its Emperor and didn’t require his removal as a condition of surrender, which was the right decision but still, maybe the bow should be coming the other way. Actually I think the Emperor looks a little nonplussed at Obama’s bizarre contortion in that photo. Almost as if he wanted to laugh.

  • ladyimpactohio

    My father was in Iwo Jima, the Philippines, New Guinea, Guadalcanal, and many other places in the Pacific. He saw the horror of his friends and officers killed by the Japanese, who showed no mercy. I hate to say it, but I’m glad my dad’s memory isn’t as great as it used to be and he forgot he saw this happen.

    • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway

      They just don’t get it, and never will…

  • DavidS1787

    look what Sen.Dick Durbin and ILLINOIS Gov. Pat Quinn are doing!

    It’s outrageous!

  • red4ever

    He was part of the Naval Academy class of 1942. They graduated in January to rush them to fleet to replace the officers killed in Pearl Harbor. He served in Europe and the Pacific. He was on the Missouri when the surrender documents were signed.

    He passed away in October 2008. My mother and I honestly agree that while we miss him, we are glad he is not around to see what Obama is doing to this country. My stepfather did not fight and suffer wounds that affected him for the rest of his life to see this country become socialism and have its leader bowing to a foreign sovereign.

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  • Wing Zero

    It’s things like this that make me almost glad I’m no longer in the USAF.

  • johnt

    the one that is just like all the rest, no better and probably a lot worse.
    Truly it’s body language and the nasty little man, Barack, not the Emperor, thinks he’s being gloriously humble, for the country he despises, not himself.
    Michelle must love it, she’s getting prouder of America by the minute.

  • johnt

    n/t

  • dt

    Does anyone have a ready document/website to cite when discussing this issue? I want to be able to show people why this was a violation of diplomatic protocol when it comes up in discussions, but my quick google searches and research on the State Department’s Office of Protocol web page have not turned up anything definitive. Thanks in advance.

  • dclamage

    The point being, Obama should only have bowed slightly, not the full obeisance he displays on a regular basis to foreign royalty (except the British). Just enough of a bow to show respect to the older man. But make no bones about it, Japan owes more of its allegiance and duty to us than the other way ’round. We beat them, then showed them mercy.

  • hickorystick

    The little guy has a heck of a grip. Or, Obama is extremely impressed with the Japanese ability to crush their own economy and put half the population on the government dole. Or, Three day old sushi still has it’s effect even on divinity. I’m going with the last one, figuring digital editing cleaned up the mess.

  • WarEagle01

    But this doesn’t even look like a bow to me. It looks more like he’s bending down to better hear something Hirohito is telling him. If he was bowing, at least he got it right: hands at side and slight bend at the waist, not the full-on grovel a la Barry.

  • ecroper

    Seems the BIC (bower in charge) just doesnt have a clue.One thing for sure, he is consistant. May God continually Bless the USA.

  • ecroper

    Hey carter, your sacrid title is very much in jepordy.

  • DONTREADONME

    that he hopes to live to see this man (voted out)/shoveled into the ash heap of history. God Bless my grandfather I hope he gets the chance. BTW, he turned red when I showed him that image.

    • Xasteius

      He was on shore in Pearl Harbor getting cigarettes when the Japanese hit it. Bring up the war, and inevitably the phrase ‘those d*** Japs’ would come up.

  • muffin

    Please thank your Grandfather for his service to our country. I also hope he lives to see this coward-in-chief voted out of office. God Bless Your Grandfather. He’s a true Patriot.

    • mschmitt
      • DONTREADONME

        my WWII Vet Grandpopsee
        http://www.redstate.com/dontreadonme/2009/05/25/save-the-ship-that-would-not-die-uss-laffey-dd-724/

        about 4:10 seconds into the first video is my grandfather Al. Now imagine that man getting angry.

        • mschmitt

          I wouldn’t have minded being a bitter clinger in the foxhole (or gun mount) next to him any day.

          Re: the rest of the video… What a way to start the day, DTOM — now I’m gonna have to go find something to break before I can go to work.

  • smorgasbord

    Obama wants to be king, not president. You can’t be king in a Republic (WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY). I believe Obama is trying to bring the USA down so he can be crowned king. He bows to dictators, and shuns leaders of free countries.

  • olddog

    diverting attention with one move while completing his trick, with another, while not being observed, Behind closed doors, evil things are happening. Whats dirty harry doing? or is crap and tax being guided through the corridors? Or is Hillary giving away our handgun rights through the U.N.? Etc.Etc You almost need to be a video game enthusiast ,to keep up with all the moves, and the bad guys, being placed in potent positions, how do we keep up? Only through many eyes and ears, keeping each other informed. Meanwhile, the bravest of us, are still going without backup, because their commi err ah commander in chief has too many Important things to do. It should be as in Roman times, when the Commander was leading the boys into battle, to prove his worth.
    One Old Dog