ahhhh haaaa haaaaa ha ha ha. You have got to be kidding, right?

PS West will not run and he should not run. He is yet to prove a thing or prove that his actions match his rhetoric. And hob nobbing with Trump and supporting him does not bode well on his future.

decriminalize cocaine, heroin, meth, etc. It is all being used by people who want to do what they want to do. While we are at it, lets just legalize all vices such as prostitution. Because by golly, no reason for us to expect the government to write laws that reflect the majorities sentiment or “impede” on anyone’s right to do as they please. But lets go further, lets end all laws that make having sex with animals illegal because we do not want the government treating us like children.

Come on, having laws that reflect the general morality of the population is not treating us like children. Weed is not a victimless crime no matter how much people want us to believe it is. Legalize all drugs today and there will still be crimes due to the drugs whether it be fighting over control on who sells it, fighting over turf by the black market dealers, crimes due to someone wanting the drug but not having the money, etc.

And people being stigmatized and being “unable” to get treatment is not a valid reason to legalize something. A) they were stupid to get on the dope in the first place, B) Who pays for this treatment (it will become another entitlement program), C) you can make voluntary admission for treatment a non criminal act (oooops it already is), D) the so called pleas for treatment is a ploy to avoid time for the crime.

And I do not feel a slight bit of pity for those in jails. in fact the moment a person uses that type of nonsense to claim reason for legalization, I immediately ignore the reasoning. No one is in jail for any other reason than they chose to ignore the law and now they are paying the price. Even with weed, people know the risk, know the law, and chose to ignore it.No reason to feel sorry for them now. And the reality is you could take every person out of jail today for weed related offenses and the jail would fill back up again. Legalizing weed is not going to stop the crime nor will it cut the prison budgets. WHY? Because very few people are in prison for smoking a little weed.

you make the same type argument that a 15 year old would make, “daddy does not let me stay out after midnight, I am no kid”, you justify legalizing weed because it is a personal choice, you bring up countries that have decriminalized weed, yet some have also decriminalized heavier drugs going as far as setting up shops where users of heavy drugs such as heroin can come get their fix, you raise the treatment issue even though no treatment center in this country, whether self paid or free, has to report their patients and or their drug use, and you bring up the famous jail issue when the reality is few people are in jail for smoking a little weed. And the best response you could come up with was beclown. What a joke.

Maybe you should try to argue your point without the adolescent nonsense and actually use arguments not based in hysteria and nonsense and use facts instead. That way, maybe your “friend” can win the battle to legalize dope and be a dope head without fear of a ticket.

nonsense mean and what does it have to do with anything? Defend marriage, yep that had everything to do with the topic.

without being long winded, there is not an overpopulation of prisons due to smoking a little weed and to claim otherwise is not backed in fact. as to how they are treated in prison or what happens to them, another subject all together but irrelevant anyways. I know the law, you know the law, and if a person chooses to break the law, their choice, What happens after is not my problem. If bad things happen to them in prison or their life is altered due to their choices, their problem. I have never been to prison or jail. Why you ask, because I follow the law.

As to the black people claim, nonsense. This is the same argument used by the likes of Jesse Jackson and so on concerning the crack epidemic. Police were persecuting the blacks by focusing in on what had to be the worst devastation caused by any drug. Guess where the majority of selling was going on, yep that is right, the black community. Again, they made the choice, pay the price.

As to the cost, who knows. But cost should not be a reason as to why or why not to enforce our laws. Every crime cost money, prisons cost money, lots of it. Does not mean we need to get some accountant to figure out if the cost is worth it. We need to enforce laws until they are no longer laws. A single murder trial will cost the state millions. Do we stop pursuing those cases due to the cost? And when you disregard the nonsense that our prisons are full of some poor weed smoker, the argument becomes void. The majority of people in prison for weed are there for much more than smoking a joint and or are repetitive offenders who do not seem to learn a lesson. It is a nonsense argument that somehow our prisons are filled with poor smucks who just wanted to smoke a little herb.

And as to social destruction, come on. One only has to drive to their nearest ghetto to see the absolute destruction drugs have brought to a community. One only has to read about the murders being committed all around the world over drugs including weed. One only has to look up turf wars over drugs to see the damage and weed is a drug that has been fought over. One only has to look at local police blotters to see how many crimes are committed to obtain drugs or to steal another drugs, weed included, to see the damage.

It is pure nonsense to argue somehow our country will be made better by legalizing weed or that somehow our country will save money by legalizing it. Our southern neighbors are not going to stop bringing it in, killing to protect their trade, people in this country will develop black market sales to avoid government regulation and crime will follow that, not too mention the slippery slope our government lives on and the soon to follow cries that one should be able to smoke crack if one chooses and they will simply use the same argument the above poster used. The slope will not end and eventually we will be hearing cries similar to the above nonsense about everything else. Ooops we already hear those cries from groups such as NAMBLA.

It it quite telling when a liberal state such as CA defeat as weed bill and as long as moral citizens continue to have a say, it will continue to be defeated around the country. Dope heads can continue to be dope heads, but they will continue to pay the price for their choices.

and the basis of the argument. If you are agreeing the a majority rule applies as to the legality, then fine we agree. But still not sure what your posts has to do with the subject, how being against prostitution is associated with defense of marriage, or how you can make prostitution and adultery the same or similar.

But even if a person wants to be a dope head and wants to use the tired and obnoxious argument as to what legalizing weed would make us a better country, now is not the time for it. Just as in CA their effort to legalize dope during these times was obnoxious and ill timed, the same applies to the rest of the country. And until dope heads and dope head supporters use a real argument void of non facts and bogus BS, I and many others will continue to confront their nonsense.

because the same obnoxious arguments doc uses have been used by the pro prostitution racket, the pro cocaine use racket, in fact all the groups who claim a person should be able to do whatever they want without government interference. And when you head down a slippery slop, you will hit the bottom.

But that still does not explain your reconciling of prostitution being similar or the same to adultery. Nor does it explain your defense of marriage rant.

and this would have been a faster reply had power not gone down for a few, lets look at my horrible comparisons and stretches.

I guess thinking decriminalization is far fetched huh?

Mexico, personal use

Portugal

Holland

Switzerland

Columbia

And so on and so on. All have decriminalized personal amounts or more of all, and I repeat ALL, drugs, have ALL set up costly tax payer funded rehabs, and have seen little provable lowing in use or crime other than what can be attributed, of course outside of CATO and Arlen Spector, to differences in acceptance, beliefs, lifestyle, and nation status as to wealth etc. So me stating that slippery slopes exist and it will only be a matter of time to where the rest of the heavy drugs would be the next argument is valid and is backed by history. As the esteemed Neil would say, learn you history, you are wrong.

And the clue is easy to find. All of the bogus excuses used by the dope heads and their supporters boil down to BS and one main argument as demonstrated by Doc above and that is, I want to do as I want and no one has a right to tell me otherwise especially government. This is the juvenile “Daddy will not let me stay out past midnight on a school night and I am no child” cry. So going on the only argument they have, who are they to tell the crack smoker he or she can not do as they please and are they the ones who set the bar as to what the government can regulate and what it can not?

Wonder if all this will pierce the shell of your world?

you think yourself clever, but yoo do the poor me victim routine much better.

But usually I would not say you do moron well, so this is a surprise. Laws that represent the majority have nothing to do with daddy or any other of your ignorant rants, it has to do with what we as a people want. Are you in favor of abortion rights? Speeding down roads with no limits? Underage laws? DUI laws? Laws are what we as a people desire them to be. We do not want drunks on the road, so we set laws. We do not want dope heads running free smoking, snorting, or shooting up, so we enact laws. And when you grow out of the rebellious “daddy” crap or the juvenile ” no one can tell me what to do” nonsense, it will make everything seem much better. Until then, keep getting nonsense arguments from wewanttogethigh.com

Now since I have little respect for the nonsense Libertarians spew and since it seems you have you head up their collective rears. moving on.

my comment and as long as you persist in stating I told you I was a retread, I will continue to call you a liar. You can go search all you want, it is not there.

See Doccy, in order to be a retread, you have to have been banned and reset up an account. I never, NEVER told anyone on this site that much less you. Having an account that went dormant, forgetting the sign in info, resetting up an account is neither being a retread nor is it against rules.

So shove off. You play these games too much then want to act the pious victim part. No one is fooled here and neither am I. Ignore all you want, I will continue to engage in dialogue and if you are the one who puts down something far out like above, I will put in my two cents. I could care less about your oversensitive sensibilities.