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Did Bill Clinton Pwn Barack Obama?

“Why did the White House let this whole Sestak affair become such a large scandal?” That is the million dollar question that I’ve heard on the lips of every major pundit on Fox News–from Charles Krauthammer, to Megyn Kelly, to Juan Williams (not to mention, Redstate’s Moe Lane as well–see his comment in the diary that I linked to). In other words, why didn’t the Obama Administration immediately leap out in front of this story months ago and smack down Pennsylvania Congressman Joe Sestak, by calmly explaining that he was offered a particular job that he was highly qualified for (like for instance, Undersecretary of the Navy or some position in the Department of Homeland Security or Defense)–and that there is “nothing to see here”? And then, they could have further stated that, “Hey, the Congressman is mistaken. We offered him this job, because he was the one most qualified for it, and we needed the position filled–not because we were trying to bribe him.” At most, this would have been a two day story because it would have been a “he said-she said”–not to mention, it would have been extremely difficult to prove. Furthermore, politicians have been engaging in this type of quid pro quo since the time of the Caesars, so none of this is really very shocking to anyone (at the very worst, it undercuts Obama’s whole message of “not doing politics as usual”, but I think that train left the station a while ago). So, what gives?

Well, a couple of days ago, I read a fascinating column in The Washington Post that compared Bill Clinton to Michael Clayton, and referred to him as Obama’s “Mr. Fix-it”. Now, for those of you who don’t get this analogy, “Michael Clayton” was an excellent movie (see the trailer below) about a slightly shady guy who cleaned up messes for a law firm–he was their roving, perpetually on-call “Mr. Fix-it”. Oh, and in my opinion, “Michale Clayton” has one of the top ten best lines in recent movie history when the title character (brilliantly played by George Clooney) says to the evil, murdering trial lawyer (played perfectly by Tilda Swinton)—

“I’m not the guy that you kill, I’m the guy that you buy!”

….But, I digress.

Now, I think that The Washington Post was more right about Bill Clinton being “Michael Clayton” than they might ever know. What do I mean by that? Well, those of you who have seen the movie (spoiler alert for those of you who have not) might remember that, in the end, Michael Clayton did the right thing and turned on the chemical company hired by his law firm that had manufactured a deadly weedkiller. In other words, I think that Bill Clinton “Michael Claytoned” (yes, I’ve now created a new verb) the Obama Administration, and was secretly helping Joe Sestak behind their back. Yes, I know that it’s a juicy story, but you’re worried that it might be largely based on conjecture. Well, you’re in luck, because I happen to deplore stories based strictly on conjecture. So, if you will bear with me, I will start of by bombarding you with a plethora of facts to back up my hunch.

Fact–Bill Clinton and Joe Sestak have been friends for quite a while. Joe Sestak worked in the Clinton Administration as Director for Defense Policy on the National Security Council.

FactJoe Sestak was an extremely loyal Hillary Clinton supporter who stayed with her until the bitter end, and who was constantly on TV defending her. In fact, he was even defending Hillary when most of her supporters had left, and when the MSM and the Democratic establishment were telling her to get out of the race (the Democratic Party seems to have a nasty of habit of doing this sort of thing). Furthermore, Sestak helped Hillary win PA by almost ten points–but, specifically, he helped her carry Bucks County by fifteen points. Therefore, Bill Clinton owes Joe Sestak a lot. And, he owes Arlen Specter absolutely nothing.

Fact–According to that same WaPo column that I linked to above, Joe Sestak was at Bill Clinton’s house so that Clinton could help him plan for his general election campaign against Arlen Specter, the very day that Arlen Specter announced that he was switching parties. Now, of course the WaPo kind of glanced over this inconvenient little factoid; however, if you read between the lines, this is an extremely big deal. Why? Well, because first of all, I seriously doubt that Bill Clinton does that for every congressional candidate (i.e, invites them over to his home to plan strategy sessions)–Joe Sestak was obviously someone whose candidacy Clinton was deeply invested in. And second of all, this is a big deal because it means that the Obama Administration deliberately kept Bill Clinton out of the loop, and then backed someone–who even liberals think is a blatant opportunist–over his loyal buddy Joe Sestak. C’mon, you KNOW that this had to royally piss Bill Clinton off–especially when the Obama Administration keeps using him to put out its fires and campaign for Obama “in places where Obama is less than welcome”, to quote the WaPo (probably because he called the people there “bitter, gun-clingers”).

Fact–Bill Clinton does not like Barack Obama. For starters, Clinton thinks that Obama “played the race card” on him (and let’s face facts–he did–and he played it on John McCain as well). Furthermore, it was the Obama campaign that pushed the meme that Hillary Clinton was hoping that Obama would get assassinated. And finally, Bill Clinton even went so far as to tell Ted Kennedy, with regard to Obama, that, “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee”–which I think means that Clinton sees Obama as a “Junior” (who should be an intern) or as “The Boy President” (to quote our own MBecker), and therefore, doesn’t have a whole lot of respect for him. (By the way, I’d be willing to bet that Bill Clinton thinks that if you need a “Michael Clayton” to put out your fires for you, then you shouldn’t be president in the first place.)

FactEvery biography news special that I’ve ever seen about Bill Clinton all say one thing in common–that he is extremely loyal to his friends, but that he hold grudges forever. For instance, when he and George H. W. Bush flew overseas to help promote relief for the tsunami victims, Bill Clinton gave George H. W. Bush the one bed on the plane and slept on an air mattress–yet to this day, he still hates Jimmy Carter’s guts (probably because of all of Carter’s “freelance diplomacy” during the Clinton years). Not to mention, I remember seeing an 60 Minutes expose on Bill Clinton a few years ago where they reported that he still keeps in touch with his high school friends from AR.

[Now, I realize that some people reading this might find it a bit painful to admit that Bill Clinton could possibly have any redeeming qualities at all--such as being a loyal friend. However, I promise you that it's quite painless. Pinky swear. The sky won't rain down fire, cats and dogs won't be living together, and gravity won't reverse itself. Take a look around. See? Everything is still where you last left it. Wait a second....I'm meeelting....MEEEEELTING!! Ha, ha! Just kidding. I'm still here. ;-) But, I digress. Anyway, my point is that everyone (with the exception of Attila the Hun and Adolph Hitler) has some redeeming qualities. (And no liberals--I am not comparing Bill Clinton to Attila the Hun or Adolph Hitler--I am just trying to make a point.)]

Fact–Bill Clinton knows PA like the back of his hand–he probably knows it better than Joe Sestak does. A Clinton has won the state of PA three different times–twice when Bill Clinton ran for president, and once when Hillary won PA in the Democratic primary. Bill Clinton probably knows how every county in PA will vote before they do. Not to mention, I’m sure that Clinton knew that Arlen Specter was weak and would be easy to beat–why else would he have met with Sestak so early? You really think that we all knew that Specter was weak, but Bill Clinton didn’t?

Fact–Two days before the Sestak/Specter election, Bill Clinton was in Johnstown, PA campaigning for Mark Critz (who recently won Jack Murtha’s old seat). Now, when he was there, Clinton NEVER mentioned Specter’s name (Obama’s choice for Senate whom he claimed that he “loved”) once. Furthermore, Critz’s district went HEAVILY for Hillary, so just by being there, Bill Clinton was doing a serious get out the vote drive for Sestak (he didn’t have to say anything–once the people who voted for Hillary heard he was there, they knew what to do).

Fact–Joe Sestak has a serious man-crush on Bill Clinton. Don’t believe me? Well then, watch the video below and see for yourself (H/T C-SPAN). Pay particular attention to how much Sestak’s entire demeanor changes when he starts discussing President Clinton. Not to mention, Sestak totally backs up the WaPo story about Clinton helping him with his campaign before Specter announced that he was switching parties. (Oh, and to be specific, the WaPo story that I previously linked to stated that, “Sestak’s eyes lit up on the Capitol steps Friday as he recalled his bond with Clinton”. If you watch the video, you’ll see that that is the understatement of the millennium.)

Hey dude–watch it! You’re oozing man-crush everywhere and it’s getting on my shoes.

But seriously, that was more than just man-crush radiating off of Congressman Sestak–that was appreciation. And yes, I think that part of it was for President Clinton’s phone call to his poor little girl (God Bless her) when she was diagnosed with brain cancer. However, I honestly think that part of it was appreciation for President Clinton supporting him when everyone else wanted him to just go away.

Now, here comes the conjecture part of my diary. I know that Bill Clinton is reported to have had a brief conversation with Joe Sestak (at the behest of Rahm Emanuel) where he offered him a non-paying position on a board that Sestak could not have even served on if he remained in Congress (and that Sestak declined his offer). However, I don’t know what the two men said to each other after Sestak declined Clinton and Clinton replied, “I knew that you would say that.”

In other words, after reviewing ALL of the evidence (and there is a lot of it), I simply refuse to believe that Bill Clinton was happy about being used by the Obama Administration as some sort of Michael Clayton figure (the WaPo somehow manages to infer that this is a flattering thing for a former president). Furthermore, does anyone honestly think that Bill Clinton was happy about being kept out of the loop with regard to Specter switching parties, and then being told to stab his loyal friend in the back–by some guy who had called him and his wife “RAAAAACISTS!!”–in order to help Arlen Freakin’ Spector–a guy with the charisma of Mr. Potato Head?! Really????!!!!!! I’m sorry, but I’m just not buying it–that would require a willing suspension of disbelief on my part. No, I think that after Bill Clinton delivered Rahm Emanuel’s message to Joe Sestak (just like he told Mr. Emanuel that he would), the conversation continued in a fashion similar to this—

Joe Sestak: So, Mr. President, what do you think that I should do? Should I drop out of the Race?

(In my best Clinton impersonation voice….)

Bill Clinton: “Hell No! Run dammit!! You can easily beat that SOB Specter. He has the personality of a toad! Besides, no one in Pennsylvania, Republican or Democrat, likes him. Now Joe, you know that I can’t publicly come out and support you because of Hillary’s job and all, but I know Pennsylvania like the back of my hand and I promise you that you can beat this guy. Furthermore, I can promise you that I won’t utter one word in support for Arlen Specter, and that, come Hell or high-water, I will find a way to show my face in Pennsylvania a few days before the votes are cast–even if I have to show up to campaign for the local dogcatcher.”

Now, besides all of the evidence–and Bill Clinton’s ginormous ego–what else makes me think that Bill Clinton Michael Claytoned the Obama Administration? Well, because it’s something that I would do. Being the vindictive beyotch that I am (yes, I know that it’s a bad quality and I’m working on it–you all can pray for me if you’d like), if I was put in the exact same position that Bill Clinton was put in, I would smile sweetly and bat my eyes at Rahm Emanuel, tell him that I would love to help him using my best Southern belle drawl, and then would proceed to kneecap that SOB by giving my buddy the heads up and telling him to run anyway. (I believe that revenge is a dish best served cold–and, I bet that Bill Clinton does as well.) Moreover, this could also explain why President Clinton was running away from some random blogger yesterday when asked about this, instead of getting in his face and telling him to “piss off”–something that Mr. Clinton has never shied away from doing in the past (just ask Chris Wallace). (See embed below–H/T Allahpundit of Hot Air.)

And finally, I think that the the spectacle of Bill Clinton kneecapping Obama is what the Obama Administration is really afraid of people finding out about. That would totally explain why they’ve been so evasive and antsy about something that could easily be made to look like small potatoes by a group of highly skilled White House lawyers. (Not to mention, it could also explain why they were so quick to throw Bill Clinton under the bus.) They figure that people knowing about them offering Joe Sestak a job might undercut their message a bit, but at the end of the day, everyone already knows that Obama’s just a typical Chicago politician. (Yawn–I’m bored already.) However, if it were proven to be true that Bill Clinton has so little respect for Barack Obama that he would blatantly Michael Clayton him in favor of his buddy–well, that would be one huge humiliation sandwich that would choke the life out of the Obama administration. Why? Simply put–it would make them look weak. In a nutshell, I think that the Obama Administration’s greatest fear is Bill Clinton saying the following under oath about helping out Joe Sestak, when he was supposed to be doing Barack Obama and Rahm Emanuel a favor—

(In my best Clinton impersonation voice….)

“First of all, it depends on what the meaning of the word “favor” is. Second of all, I said that I would do “a favor”–I just never specified for whom. I think that I performed a huge favor for my buddy, Joe Sestak, and for the good people of Pennsylvania by getting rid of that opportunistic hack, Arlen Specter.”

A couple of days ago, Peggy Noonan wrote a column titled, “He Was Supposed to Be Competent” where she wrote the following with regard to Barack Obama’s relationship with the Democrats (H/T Ed Morrissey of Hot Air and Jeff Emanuel)—

“What continues to fascinate me is Mr. Obama’s standing with Democrats. They don’t love him. Half the party voted for Hillary Clinton, and her people have never fully reconciled themselves to him. But he is what they have. They are invested in him. In time—after the 2010 elections go badly—they are going to start to peel off. The political operative James Carville, the most vocal and influential of the president’s Gulf critics, signaled to Democrats this week that they can start to peel off. He did it through the passion of his denunciations.”

Here is the embed of James Carville signaling to Democrats that it’s OK to “peel off”–

Now, what I would like to know is who signaled to James Carville that it was OK for him to “peel off”? I’m not a betting woman, but I would bet dollars to donuts that it was Bill Clinton. Remember, Carville has always worked for Bill Clinton–not the other way around.

So, in conclusion, if my theory is correct (and the evidence sure as heck makes it look like I’m correct), this story could be a lot bigger than any of us originally thought. Instead of it being about the Obama administration offering some congressman a job to get out of a Senate primary race (which they seem to have done before, by the way), this story could actually be about Bill Clinton totally dissing/kneecapping/Michael Claytoning the Obama administration–and, about the Democrats, themselves, starting to peel away from Obama. (Remember, the Democrats in PA voted for Joe Sestak, instead of Arlen Specter–Obama’s chosen candidate). Now, I realize that “dissing” and “kneecapping” are strong words, but if the Lanvin sneaker fits, well…..

Hey, I’m only following the evidence–which is something that the MSM simply refuses to do.

PS–By the way, I think that conservatives should reclaim the movie “Michael Clayton”. I realize that it’s been labeled a “left-leaning film”, but I think that’s bullocks. Since when are conservatives in favor of corporations that make deadly weed-killers? And besides, at the end of the movie, the title character does the right thing by taking personal responsibility and standing up to corrupt trial lawyers. Sounds like a conservative movie to me.

This diary was originally posted on The Minority Report.

COMMENTS

  • BlueStateSaint

    It’s amazing what kind of garment they make.

    It does all fit together. And it’s something that I would not put past Bill Clinton. When it was first revealed that he had helped out President Obama in this, I admit to having been more than a bit surprised.

    President Clinton let his little head rule his big head (with the Lewinsky scandal). When it is the other way around, it is truly amazing just how smart he can be. I tell ya what–I would absolutely hate to be on the receiving end of his ire.

    The best part of this is that it can look like a somewhat routine mistake.

    • Susannah

      …..That is the true brilliance of it all. :-)

      • Susannah

        ….Thanks so much for mentioning (and linking to) my diary on your blog. I really appreciate it. (See the link below.)

        http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,44833.0.html

        Oh, and nice blog. :-)

        Take care.

        X0X0, Suzi

  • ocleverone

    Great job of pulling this together.

    • Susannah

      ….I appreciate it. :-)

      • ocleverone

        I want to see what comes next in this saga.

        • Susannah

          ….I don’t think that he’s done by a long shot.

          • acat

            Clinton wants to be the “elder statesman” of the party – the role Teddy Kennedy used to play, only .. less hammered and without the day job.

            Hillary’s loss cost him some time, but he still has a chance – and that’s in electing and leading the anti-Obama Dems.

            It’s a role the Clinton Triangulation was darn near made for…

            Yeah. He’s not done. He’s barely getting warmed up.

            Mew

          • Susannah

            Bill Clinton definitely wants to be the “elder statesman” of the party–and he obviously doesn’t think that The Boy President is up to snuff. I totally agree with you that we will see more evidence of him leading the anti-Obama Dem movement (but it will be subtle, because he will be slick and keep it behind the scenes).

          • acat

            William Jefferson Clinton is an extremely gifted politician.

            Conservatives forget that at their peril.

            Mew

  • redneck_hippie

    a diary on the Sestak Affair. All this mess was brought to us by the party of Deem and Pass, the Louisiana Purchase, the Cornhusker Kickback, the panoply of Chicago thugs and communist sock puppets. Etc…great work..

    • Susannah

      …..I appreciate it. :-)

      I’ve been sitting on this story for a couple of days, all the while following the evidence. However, I wasn’t 100% convinced that I was right and that I should “go for it”, until I saw that video of Sestak talking–then, it was obvious to me what the deal was.

  • Jaimo

    I guess it must be pretty bad when you start thinking back on the Clinton administration with slight fondness after all that has happened in the last 2 years.

    When I saw how close the Clintons and Bushes had become I started to wonder if Bill Clinton was all that bad a guy. Hillary on the other hand still creeps me out and I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her. On the other hand I don’t think we’d be as deep in the crap if she had been elected instead of Obama. She’s a lefty but not as far left as the big O.

    I can’t wait to see what happens, who knows Hillary could decide to quit her job and run in 2 years. Oh what fun we’ll have then. Now if we can just find someone who has a snowflake’s chance in hell of winning in 2 years, I’d feel a little better.

    • Susannah

      ….I appreciate it. :-)

      And as far as Bill goes, I’ve met very few people in my lifetime that I can say are ALL good or ALL bad–so I’m sure that he probably is a good guy to be friends with.

      • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

        Sorry, couldn’t resist. Some people here might be too young to recall all of Slick Willie’s and Hillie’s alleged bad acts. Here’s one:

        HILLARY THREATENED JUANITA BROADDRICK 2 WEEKS AFTER RAPE

        Great diary!

        CW

  • http://www.theminorityreportblog.com/blog/loren_heal Socrates

    is that the excuse Sestak gave for not questioning Clinton on the job commission offer casual mention is that he was a former President, and Sestak has just too darned much respect for the office. He implied that he’d been awestruck, a big important man like Bill Clinton talking to little ol’ him.

    But if he’d been over to the Clinton house, on top of his earlier working for him in the White House, that just doesn’t wash. You don’t last in the Pentagon, much less the Capitol, by being overly respectful of rank like that.

    • Susannah

      :-)

  • RealQuiet

    n/t

    • Susannah

      I appreciate the kind words. : -)

  • teresakoch

    I’m also thinking that Mr. Clinton might just be looking to use his chit to bring down Obama even sooner; say in an impeachment trial –

    He could probably convince enough Democratic senators to vote to impeach if it came to that – after he convinces Obama that he needs to ditch Biden for Hillary, of course.

    Poor Barry, brought a knife to a gun fight……

    • Susannah

      …That’s funny,.. “Poor Barry, brought a knife to a gun fight??” :-)

  • gawntrail1

    Prediction:

    Hillary will hold a press conference sometime in Oct. She’ll resign and the reason being this administration broke Federal Law. And Bill will be standing next to her…………and will be betting the house on not being the last President to be impeached.

    Obama, or whoever made the decision to use Clinton, seriously stepped in it. This must have seriously rattled cages.

  • Vegas_Rick

    You spin a very compelling web. Paid “journalists” can’t do as well. Great job and thanks!

    • Susannah

      I appreciate it the kind words. :-)

  • c17wife

    You did all the work weaving the web together. Quite nicely. :>)
    they don’t call him Slick Willy for nothing.
    And you know what they say about Karma…it is a Beyotch!!!
    It will simply be poetic justice if Billy Jeff’s “help” is what finally brings Barack to his knees. we can only hope, eh?

    • Susannah

      ….Yeah, I agree that it would be hilarious if Obama is brought down by Bill Clinton.

      By the way, it’s great to see you back around again. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

  • MNConservative

    Entertaining and informative… I feel like I’ve just watched a “The making of…” movie, where all the tricks are explained.

    These Democrats deserve each other.

    • Susannah

      ….I appreciate the kind words. :-)

      • Flagstaff

        has a second part. Mrs. Flagstaff and I were discussing how much like a political thriller this story is. In fact, the whole Obama rise to “stardom” story needs only a precipitous fall from grace to give it a happy ending, perfect for the movies.

        I’d like to see any of a dozen different novelists turn “The Obama Drama” into a cloak and dagger thriller. There is a lot more to work with here than there was with “All the President’s Men.” Just call it fiction and let ‘er fly.

        The Obama administration needs to fall apart like the House of Usher. There is something of a dichotomy there that seems to be Poe-tic in nature.

  • Flagstaff

    From the WaPo–

    And, as was revealed Friday, he has been an intermediary on sensitive, off-the-grid conversations with candidates such as Rep. Joe Sestak (D-Pa.), whom he tried — on behalf of the White House — to talk out of running for the Senate.

    So the lapdog newspaper of DC simply accepts the story as true, even though it makes no sense whatsoever. You seem to accept it, too. It never happened, IMHO; it was concocted out of thin air last week in the hope that the word of two lying Presidents would overcome common sense. The jury’s still out on that. It’s generous to accept their word that the conversation took place, even if you don’t believe it was THE conversation in question.

    Attila the Hun wasn’t all that bad. He had some redeeming qualities, too.

    “Arlen Freakin? Spector?a guy with the charisma of Mr. Potato Head?!”

    That’s the best description I’ve seen so far. There’s an uncanny resemblance. And that makes Carville “Onionhead.”

    This column flowed stylistically. I loved the imaginary Clinton conversations. They DO sound just like him (good Bubba voice impersonation, there). It flowed logically too, even if I don’t believe the conversation ever took place (or if it did, it wasn’t THE conversation). And it highlighted the important questions which the LameStream Media has completely ignored: Why did Hillary accept the Secretary of State post (especially when it’s only the slobbering love affair with the LSM that hides her total incompetence at the job), and why does Bill continue to “help” Obama, given all the reasons you cited to do otherwise?

    So it isn’t farfetched at all to think that Bubba is sandbagging the Won while he figures out how to get the Missus and therefore himself back into the White House. It’s either that or Rahmbo has something really biiiiiiig he uses to keep Bubba in line. Either way, it is a bigger story than just another instance of Obama’s incompetence or election lawbreaking.

    • Susannah

      …I’m glad that you appreciated my Clinton/Sestak “conversation”–I worked hard to make it seem as realistic as possible. :-)

      As far as “the conversation” in question, I totally believe that Bill Clinton told Rham Emanuel that he would “talk to Joe Sestak” (and by now, it’s quite obvious that Clinton wasn’t the only one that Rahm Emanuel asked to strong-arm Sestak). However, I just don’t believe that Clinton told Sestak what the White House wanted him to. Furthermore, I don’t think that a bit player like Sestak (who had only been in the House for two years) would have had the cojones to take on the Obama Administration unless he KNEW that he could win, and that Bill Clinton secretly had his back. And, the ONLY way for Sestak to be sure that he could win is if Bill Clinton–a veteran of several statewide elections in PA–reassured him that he could. Just my thoughts.

      Anyway, thanks for you insightful comments Flagstaff. They are always appreciated. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

  • StandardCandle

    I mean if you going to speculate… then let’s look at the Motive… no I’m not talking about Sestak/Clinton motive…

    I’m talking about what you first talked about… how the Whitehouse has drawn this out and didn’t get out in front of it…

    I suppose the reason why… IS THEY CAN’T/COULDN’T.

    You see, in politics if there’s smoke, there may be fire, and therefore, loose language, and half-truths can defend your image to some extent, and prevent you from being indicted/convicted.

    So in the vain of your speculation… I would venture out and say Clinton has a recording of ol’ Rahmmie asking him to commit a felony, and another recording of his meeting with Sestak, that clears the both of them…

    and He is Using that leverage to make the Administration play ball Clinton style…

    I mean come on.. it just fits right?

    • Patricia_C

      Bill Clinton didn’t earn the name “Slick” Willie for nothing.

      Unlike Barack Obama, Bill Clinton understands (perhaps more successfully than any other) how the game of DC Politics (a game played in an open field with the stands full of eyes and cameras) is played. Obama knows only Chicago Politics (which rarely leaves the privacy of the locker room) where only “the team players” are privy to discussions of “game plans”. Bill Clinton is skilled at dancing in the spotlight to win a contest. Barack knows only how to tip-toe through back allies to pick off his competition.

      Right now, the proverbial spotlight is burning bright on DC. Who do YOU think will handle the heat best?

      I don’t think Bill Clinton (AKA: “Slick” Willie) would be foolish enough to engage in a game to blackmail with an administration that is teetering on the edge of the political cliff… not when watching it fall from its own momentum would serve his plans better than toeing up to the precipice himself. Why would Bill hold recordings as a means of incentive to get the Obama andiministration to play his way if those same recordings could remove the administration entirely? Why would Bill Clinton compromise what could be his long awaited opportunity to get back onto the power stage (as Mr. President Hillary’s husband), repairing his battered legacy AND cashing in on a MAJOR grudge just to remain a bit-player who still spends most of his time back stage?

      Na… I’m not feelin’ it.
      I agree more with the (incredibly brilliant) epiphany expressed by Susannah and the more logical outcome prediction of gawntrail that Bill is going to use whatever information he has to get back to center stage, polish his tarnished legacy AND exact his revenge on Obama in such a way as to live up to another of his nic-names… “The Teflon President”.

      Thank you, Susannah.
      Reading your post was like watching the clouds beginning to part and I cannot wait to see what the sunlight will reveal. You make a damn good case.
      In particular, what makes your view more credible than the muck we are hearing tossed about in the media is your repeated use of the word… “FACT”.

      • Susannah

        ….For your kind words and excellent insight and analysis. You make a great point when you write the following–

        “Bill Clinton is skilled at dancing in the spotlight to win a contest. Barack knows only how to tip-toe through back allies to pick off his competition.”

        Take care and it’s good to see both you and Standard Candle back around. :-)

        X0X0, Suzi

        • StandardCandle

          And… thank you for this brillant post.

        • StandardCandle

          And… thank you for this brillant post.

          • Susannah

            ….And, you are very kind.

            Take care. :-)

            X0X0, Suzi

      • StandardCandle

        but since we’re playing the game of speculation…

        I have one thought as to “Why” he wouldn’t just drop “the bomb”… and rid himself of Obama… and that’s precisely why… this evidence would be nuclear to the Democrat brand and would decimate the “togetherness” that they were able to muster to get 2006/2008 to work for them in terms of elections.

        Timing is everything… and believe me “Slick Willie” wouldn’t want to use this for center stage attention right now… in the big picture it would be fleeting. Until He can distance Hillary from the current administration and set the path of the Clinton Dynasty… why burn a dessimating weapon, when the threat of the weapon has more long lasting power…

        remember the Clintons WERE HUMILIATED, and were treated like OUTSIDERS… this isn’t about getting rid of Obama for Hillary, this would be about biding the time, and buying your way back into influence which provides many long term center stage moments… while controlling role/press/decision making power.

        Like i said… Leverage. It worth nothing if its not used properly.

      • Flagstaff

        this is indeed a key and keen observation:

        “Barack knows only how to tip-toe through back alleys to pick off his competition.”

        He got elected in the first place by having court records of an opponent unethically released, rendering him non-viable. He tried to get New Hampshire Senator Judd Gregg out of the Senate by offering him a Cabinet post. (That was legal, because he didn’t come out and say, “If you resign your Senate seat, I’ll name you Commerce Secretary.” He just said, “I want you to be Commerce Secretary.” But the effect would be to get a valuable player for the opposition out of the game.)

        Making these offers to Sestak and Romanov is completely in line with Obama’s and Rahm’s characters. They may both have signs above their bathroom mirrors that read, “No Qualms!”

    • Flagstaff

      I was hoping today that Governor Jan Brewer would record her conversation with the Won, to ‘improve her memory’ when he mis-states what was said.

      But I don’t think technology is what the Clintons are about.

  • blooch

    like, say, somebody with a terminal heart condition, might also feel a pressing need to do what he can in the time he has left. I’m not saying that he’s certain to die soon, but I’m sure he has confronted his own mortality in the last few years and months, and he has certainly worked political considerations into the equation.

    As you said, Susannah, he is extremely loyal to his friends, and while he may not be faithful to his wife, I think he is loyal to her. If he can do anything to help her politically without appearing Carteresque, he will do it. He didn’t unilaterally intefere with this administration. They asked for it out of stupidity, arrogance or desperation.

    It would be interesting to know what Hillary knew, and when she knew it.

    • Susannah

      First of all, the Obama Administration ASKED for Bill Clinton’s help–when they KNEW how he felt about them (and with good reason). Therefore, they were “asking for it” in my opinion.

      Second of all, luckily for the country, only Jimmy Carter wants to be Carteresque–both the Bushes and the Clintons seem to want to stay out of Obama’s way, unless asked to help.

      Third of all, I’m not sure if Bill Clinton did this in order to get back at Obama, help his buddy Joe Sestak, or help Hillary in a future campaign–or ALL three (I definitely think that it’s all three). However, whatever his reasons, Bill Clinton did the right thing for the country by helping to rid PA of Arlen Specter (and demonstrated loyalty to his friend). Therefore, I think that he should be commended.

      “Michael Clayton” is a perfect analogy to Bill Clinton–a slightly shady guy with a history of adjusting the truth, who does the right thing in the end. Anyway, my point is that I’m woman enough to suck it up and admit when someone does the right thing–especially, in this case, when we are the clear beneficiaries of Clinton making Obama appear weak.

      Anyway, thanks for the excellent and insightful comment. :-)

      X0X0, Suzi

  • http://www.lovepoemsontheweb.com wallstreetgypsy

    Are we perhaps missing the obvious here? Do we really believe that Bill “What’s in it for me) Clinton stepped up to bail Obama out of a mess out of the goodness of his heart? How about this: In return for Clinton’s help, Obama agrees to dump Biden in 2012 and name Hillary to be his running mate?

  • Patricia_C

    As I mentioned above, Bill is skillful at using the DC political machine and in the liberal style of never letting a good crisis go to waste, The Master has already begun to take full advantage of the Obama administrations precarious position on “the cliff” by focusing on how they got there… their inept capacity to take SKILLFUL advatage of a crisis. From closing Gitmo to solving the economic mess… “saving/creating jobs… the wars in Iraq… Afghanistan… the one brewing against Israel… the Gulf Oil debachle… oh, and the whole Census thing is proving to be a collosal mess… and big problems are already starting with Obamacare.. and then there’s that immigration thing in Arizona. Yes… every day we are reminded of how inept our president is at solving real problems… And in the meantime… Bill is out there, quietly reminding us of how HE handles a crisis… “Successfully”.

    Remember Laura Ling, the woman who who worked for Current TV, a media company led by former U.S. Vice President Al Gore… the woman her boss, Al Gore could not manage to help as she sat for months in a North Korean prison?… the woman Bill Clinton “saved”? The North Koreans didn’t WANT to talk to Al… They wanted to talk to Bill… and Bill saved her… Well, she’s in the paper again. It seems she is so grateful to Bill for saving her she has named her newborn daughter after him. Li Jefferson Clayton. It’s a “feel good” story, especially during a time when people are hungry for warm-fuzzies and SOMEthing redeemable in Washington… and, as StandardCandle so accurately said… “Timing is everything”.

    Soooo… as much as Barack would like to think he has everything under control… I think I just heard the school bell start ringing…

    • Susannah

      A blog called The Spyglass wrote a column agreeing with most of what I wrote (the author of the blog said that I “didn’t go far enough”). (Oh, and he also stated that he agreed with a column that Tabitha Hale wrote on this subject as well.) Furthermore, he added some interesting evidence of a Clinton/Obama war by citing a Politico article that quoted Bill Clinton trashing the progressive wing of the Democratic Party, when he was campaigning for Blanche Lincoln’s reelection in AR. Here is the link to his blog–

      http://the-spyglass.blogspot.com/2010/06/is-clinton-obama-war-brewing.html

      Anyway, this whole saga is getting more and more interesting by the minute.

      [Oh, and on a curious side note, this is the second time that someone has mentioned both me and Tabitha Hale in the same blog/column. The first time was when Lee Siegel of The Daily Beast wrote a column about Redstate, and quoted both of us in it--weird coincidence, huh? (See link below.)]

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-27/the-new-republican-war-room/

      Again, I think it’s possible that there will be much more to unfold from this Obama/Clinton feud in the future. In the meantime, I will be waiting…..;-)