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How to Deal with the Fiscal Cliff

Call it Operation Kick-the-can

A present from the August 2011 deal is the upcoming sequestration of spending, and along with it the ‘cliff’ of Bush tax increases. How should the Republicans in Congress, still running the House and still a minority in the Senate, deal with this?

The Republicans can and must hold the line on taxes in the lame duck session, and in fact Democrats will go along. Simple reason: The Democrats know that Obamacare tax hikes are on track in Jan 2013, that will be bad enough for the economy that is still weak. Also, the Democrats will have a larger contingent in both House and Senate next year,  and will want more members and more time to both get what they want and get a more careful compromise done.

So here should be the lame duck deal: 1 for 1 spending cuts to avoid sequestration (cut military and domestic spending), AND a 1-year extension of Bush tax cuts, AND FY 2013-14 spending limits, ie, 2 yr spending cap agreement that cuts at least $200 billion from spending trajectory over next 2 years, AND a 1-yr debt ceiling increase.

Republicans should NOT balk at letting the military sequestration happen, so long as they have a balanced spending cut alternative. Pass their version, and if Obama wants it different, its on him. Squealing about DoD spending undercuts the rest of the position and is precisely why Democrats chose it. Dont fall in the trap.

The Republicans are in a weak position in terms of forcing their preferred approach. They could for example put Simpson-Bowles style “lower rates for loophole closures” – the plan Romney touted; they SHOULD go back and dust off “Cut, Cap and Balance” and push that. WE need to have $100 billion cut in FY2013.  But getting any of that signed is problematic.

Their main leverage is saying NO. The Republicans need to be prepared to simply say”NO” to any  higher taxes at this time, and “NO” to any “Grand Bargain” tax hikes that go beyond loop closures.  So, what the Republican House needs to be doing is putting their approach in the hopper and pushing as far as they can to cut spending.

The Grand Bargain has to include a large-scale scaling-back of Obamacare. It should be dismantled in parts. Repeal tax increases. Reduce all aspects of its spending. Defer and delay all implementations, mandates and other rules. Get them all in the budget so they all become negotiating points. Stuff the tree so to speak, so you give up 3 items to get 1 through.

Much of the above may be wishful thinking, based on perceived vs actual leverage. My own motivation is for a deal that cuts the debt, deficits and spending, but the main motivation for members of Congress is self-preservation. They scatter when it gets politically painful. For that reason, The Republicans need to get a clear agenda and principles of where they stand, articulate and defend it well, and stand our ground.

COMMENTS

  • gflyer3364qt

    Although I’m not getting my hopes up, my hope is now that Obama cant run again and doesn’t have to worry about angering his base against him, that maybe just maybe he’ll move to the center and we can get some effective bipartisan legislation done that will benefit the country overall. He’s spent the last 6 years campaigning since he first declared his candicacy in 2007. He now has nothing else to run for no more elements of his base to rile up nothing else to campaign for. As a people observer, I’m actually quite curious to see what he does as he realizes he has no more elections to run in. 6 years of campaigning, no wonder the guy is so frail.

    • jimmyg

      If Obama chooses Erskin Bowles as Secty of the Treasury it will be a strong signal that he is willing to make a deal concerning taxes, entitlements, defense etc.

      • commonsenseobserver

        If…

        But, no. If Obama starts listening to his advisers for a start, perhaps.

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      Obama move to the center NOW!?!?!? LOLOLOLOL…. after this whupping we got, that is the last thing to expect.

      My hope – a hope mind you – is that he’s not interested enough in the hard work of legislating that NOT MUCH WILL GET DONE. Obama wont push any real detailed agenda but expect Congress to produced. And we wont. The hope is based on history. Obamacare should be called Pelosicare.

  • Dave_A

    The ’1 for 1′ thing is already part of the sequester. 500BN from defense, 500bn from non-defense.

    The whole thing is now a failed bet – namely, the bet that we’d win this election & be able to take the defense 500 off the table.

    Well, we lost. And now the whole damn thing is going to bite us in the butt…

    If you think that there is ANY chance of cutting anything worth cutting by way of that sequester, you’re as delusional as Dick Morris on Monday.

    It’s only real use now is as a horse to trade, to hold the line on taxes…. Unless of course someone thinks we can win a game of ‘Gingrich Poker’ where Gingrich couldn’t….

    • checkmate2012

      I say call the Dems bluff. Let the sequester happen. The trillion dollars is over 10 years, so no telling what the next Congress will do to abate it. I want a strong military but the Prez is bent on reducing it no matter what, seq. or not. Let him and the Dems wallow in their policies unless as you say, we get a deal on extending all Bush tax cuts…period. It won’t happen so they own it now.

      • Dave_A

        I’m also concerned that we may have to save our heel-digging-in for worse offenses…

        Such as cap-and-trade redux… The media is already beating the drums…

        • checkmate2012

          I agree. Now Reid is talking about eliminating the filibuster…again. Let the worst happen so the voters understand elections have consequenses. Another recession…oh well. We’ve been living in one for 4 years so what’s two more?

        • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

          Eff Em. cap and trade is going nowhere so long as we hold the House beyond the margin of RINOs. Or put a wimpy capntrade and add offshore drilling, ANWR, energy independence via oil shale exploitation. Win/win.

          2014 awaits and offers new oppty for 2010 redux.

        • APA Guy

          Let them, Dave. Instead of a recession we’ll face a depression when businesses start laying off and/or closing their doors.

          I’m serious…give the Democrats their destructive agenda…ALL OF IT. Let the country deal with the aftermath. It isn’t our job to save them from the consequences of THEIR election decisions.

  • exitsfunnel

    At least in the short term, I don’t see what leverage the GOP has on taxes. All the democrats have to do is let the curernt rates expire and then put a bill on the table to reinstate them for earners under 250k. How does the House GOP say no to that?

    In the longer run I am (very, very) cautiously optimistic that maybe Obama will care enough about his legacy to get behind something like Simpson-Bowles, but we’ll see.

    -exits

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      “NO”.

      That’s how.

      … and then come back with a “Lets do a 1 year extension and get a full reform bill next year.” We might have to have a higher top rate, but we could at least get Obama to live up to promise to cut corporate tax rate and some other things, and/or repeal some Obamacare taxes.

  • http://www.bohnetlaw.com rightappeal

    As bad as the sequestration and tax increases would be, I think the GOP should be prepared to let them happen unless Obama starts offering some pretty good deals. If they start with the expectation that they have to pass something, he’ll use the opportunity to extract something even worse from them.

  • APA Guy

    It is IMPERATIVE that we allow the country to experience EXACTLY what THEY voted for. Barack Obama campaigned on allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire and reducing the deficit. What is about to happen on January 1 falls 100% in line with that campaign promise.

    I am sick and tired of the Right in this country being asked to bail voters out for the governance THEY BEGGED FOR. Let’s give them exactly what they asked for: higher taxes, across-the-board spending cuts…THE WORKS. If nothing else, the closed deficit gap will make the value of the dollar stronger. Of course, we may sink back into recession, but they can always blame Bush again. It worked so well for them before.

    • westcoastpatriette

      Couldn’t agree more, APA Guy. Let ‘em reap fully what they have sown.

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      It is IMPERATIVE that we allow the country to experience EXACTLY what THEY voted for.”

      THEY voted for a GOP House and thank goodness for that. the GOP House has a mandate to NOT raise taxes and to cut spending.

      THEY voted to keep birth control legal and Obama’s mandate included opposition to middle class tax hikes (viz his attacks on Romney), so all we need is for Obama to let the GOP House set the lead on taxes and spending and we will be all set.

      • commonsenseobserver

        There’s no half-half mandate here. There’s no third way. The voters have spoken. They re-elected Obama. They will have him and his policies.

        • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

          The voters have spoken. They made the House Republican.

          They were forced to re-elect Obama not because they really wanted him but only because Romney killed a steelworker’s wife and didnt pay his taxes for 20 years and Republicans want women to die.

          • APA Guy

            Nope…sorry…can’t have it both ways. Obama’s going to own this recession…because we’re giving him and his merry band of idiots on the left exactly what they want.

          • TravisMonitor

            You are trying to have it both ways! give Obama a ‘mandate’ he didnt really get and deny the reality that voters made the House Republican.

            Voters voted for gridlock. A GOP cave on taxes will deny the voters what they voted for.

          • commonsenseobserver

            Voters must understand that there’s no magic button called “gridlock”.

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            Gridlock is a wonderful thing when the other guy has the White House and the Senate.

            Embrace the power of “NO”.

            http://www.redstate.com/wosg/2012/11/09/the-power-to-say-no/

          • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

            “Obama’s going to own this recession…because we’re giving him and his merry band of idiots on the left exactly what they want.”

            Contradictory. When you embrace what is about to happen, you co-own it. If Republican leaders make the foolish mistake of advocating letting this happen, it will be ‘their decision’. That is why, while I agree with your goal of making the Obama administration own the results of their economic mistakes, I disagree with embracing the ‘fiscal cliff’ up front.

            The Republicans in Congress need a “Plan A” of cutting spending while extending the current tax rates as their position. If they dont get their way and the Democrats block tax rate extensions, fine, THEN it is on the Democrats.

      • APA Guy

        Nope…Obama and Clinton ran around the country touting a return to the Clinton tax rates…and it was Obama’s own deficit reduction council who put these spending cuts in place. Let them have them…watch what happens to the economy.

        Again, it is NOT our job to save voters from the consequences of their elections. They need a wake-up call…and they may well get one.

        • jimmyg

          Apa you are confusing Simpson Bowles ( National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform ) which made recommendations as to how to solve the debt and deficit problem, with the super committee formed as a result of the Budget Control Act of 2011 which set in motion 1.2 trillion in budget cuts and simultaneously, the expiration of the Bush Tax cuts.

          • APA Guy

            Indeed…thank you for clarifying.

    • sbradsha

      So if it is truism that the Right has done all bailing how would you explain this ? :

      http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2012/11/daily-chart

    • TravisMonitor

      “It is IMPERATIVE that we allow the country to experience EXACTLY what THEY voted for.”

      Another thought: They voted for Gridlock. they didnt vote for GOP cave-ins. Gridlock it is.

    • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

      “I am sick and tired of the Right in this country being asked to bail voters out for the governance”

      Your sick and tired of the Right standing up for lower taxes, lower spending and conservative principles?

      Fine, then sit down and take a rest. Let others do the thinking and talking for a while. Because you do sound tired.

  • http://scipio62.livejournal.com/ scipio62

    No debt ceiling increase. Tell the Democrats to cut spending, leave the tax rates in place permanently, and repeal Obamacare, or go home. Tell the Democrats they own what happens when the debt ceiling is reached. Tell the Democrats they own a tanking economy when all the tax rate hikes come into existence on January 1, 2013.

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