Recently Mbecker wrote an excellent diary thanking President Bush for the Man that he is. One of the points was President Bush’s character displayed by his continued meetings with the families of those who gave their life in defense of freedom. Unfortunately, one of the comments stirred some commotion down in the thread which resulted in a banning.
I am not writting this to in order to get that RedState member re-instated. I am merely relating Bird’s explanation and apology so that his character doesn’t get the same treatment that the left gave to our President. Below is the text of Birdmojo’s explanation of his comment and overall conflict with the war in Iraq. I hope this gives you a bit more insight about Birdmojo and why he responds the way he does used to.
(I suppose that there may a discussion revolving around whether I was coving up for my sarcasm or whether I was sincere. Here’s an essay that I’d be happy to make into a diary if I am re-instated. If nothing else, perhaps seeing my take on the war could help resolve the question of whether my post was sarcasm and I’m lying by saying it wasn’t or whether my post was sincere and misread as sarcasm.)
9/11 blew me away. I was working 3-11PM at a tech support job at the time. I had a friend call me up from a sound sleep (my sleep hours were messed up) and he told me to turn on the television.
I was floored. I couldn’t believe that this had happened. Half of me stared in disbelief while the other half went down a checklist of the people who might have done this. The Russians? Nah. They’re preoccupied. China? Nah, not their style. Terrorists? Yeah, probably terrorists. I kept trying to get to news websites but they were down. I knew about sites like “instapundit” and he did a good job of posting links to sites that weren’t down… and I got information that way.
Half of me hoped that the American response wouldn’t include nukes, the other half of me hoped it would. Neutron bombs were cleanish, right? Drop them, they kill everybody, then you don’t have to do a whole lot of cleanup, right? That’ll make it okay on the neighbors of whomever we nuke and allow them to move into the now-vacant real estate.
Half of me wished that Clinton was still president. Half of me was glad that this had happened with a Republican in office.
As the weeks passed and the red faded from my eyes, I realized that, yeah, I was probably glad that we didn’t nuke two or three countries. That probably would have been a bit much… but what do we do? Well, Afghanistan was a gimme. Of course we had to go in there… and I was surprised that the Americans sat down to talk with the Taliban first… remember that? “Give us bin Laden.” We didn’t go in there with guns blazing, we didn’t go all Jack Bauer… we sat down to talk. And, of course, the Taliban were lying. Every thing they said was a lie to buy time and to hope/pray that the UN and the rest of the world would talk us down. Well, we went in… but we didn’t go in guns blazing. Every measure was made to protect civilians. Sure, we’d drop daisy cutters on the fighters in the mountains (remember reading about that? I read an article that quoted some British soldiers as saying “oh my god, the yanks are using nukes!”)… but in, say, Kabul, the Americans were downright acting against their own best interests.
Half of me still wanted blood, though.
When Iraq came up, I supported it whole-heartedly. I pointed out that the UN wasn’t certain that Saddam got rid of his weapons. When my lefty friends talked about how that wasn’t sufficient, I went through mailing lists and found quotes from them where they had defended Clinton’s bombing of Iraq against the isolationist Republicans using, wouldn’t you know it, UN reports saying that Saddam had not demonstrated that he had gotten rid of his weapons. I argued that Saddam was a monster, I argued that any country that had Official Secret Police *REQUIRED* intervention by anyone with the strength to do something. Well, that was the argument from half of me. The other half knew that if someone punched you in a bar and knocked you flat, you had dang well stand up pretty quickly and punch *SOMEBODY* out. Maybe the right person, maybe not. The important thing was to send the message to everyone else in the bar.
Iraq fell in, what? A time period better measured in days than weeks? Certainly better in weeks than in months. I watched Baghdad Bob and cackled at his audacity. Before you knew it, the Saddam Statue was being toppled and Iraqis were hitting Saddam posters with the soles of their shoes. See? I pointed out to my lefty friends. SEE???
A short while after that, Saddam was captured… and after that the mission was accomplished.
Half of me thought we should just leave a note on Saddam’s throne that read, in English and Arabic, “We don’t care who sits here. Sunni, Shiite, Baathist, Kurd, Iraqi, Iranian, or Israeli. Don’t make us come back.”
The other half of me thought that, well… we toppled Iraq, we should help it stand back up. These people were oppressed by Saddam for so long that they had forgotten how to be a free people. We needed to Kipling up. Help them back on their feet. Make them a beacon to the rest of the Middle East.
Well… let’s just say that a lot has happened since then. The whole “Weapons of Mass Destruction” thing didn’t pan out the way I thought it would. I honestly thought that he still had them, or (at the very least!) that he had a way to quickly make them again and get back to where he needed to be though, technically, he may have been following the letter of the law by not having the weapons, I thought that the components would be found in amounts that would allow me to point and say “see? He could have had weapons in days, if not hours!” For a while, I jumped on every report that mentioned stuff like proof that they had been smuggled into Syria or proof that they had been dumped in the desert or that a stockpile of mustard gas shells had been found… then I just went back to pointing out that, hey, nobody could have known that the WMDs weren’t there. Not even the UN was able to confirm it. Even Saddam was surprised that he didn’t have them.
But I was ticked at having been wrong.
I then focused on the burgeoning democracy. Remember those purple fingers? Man, I was proud of those. But the Iraqis kept fighting. They kept bombing. Police stations! These were people who were blowing up car bombs in front of POLICE STATIONS. I began to really resent the Iraqis. How could we have freed them from Saddam and have them blowing up car bombs in front of police stations in response? I began to wonder if staying in Iraq wasn’t a mistake. The cultural differences were far, far too much… we should have left a note in Saddam’s chair after all. These people were going to be killing each other whether or not our soldiers were there, why keep our soldiers in harm’s way?
But I kept reading reports from the soldiers who were there who kept saying “I believe in what we’re doing over there.” The soldiers who argued otherwise? They tended to be nuts like Jesse MacBeth. The soldiers who were on the ground and fighting… they wrote back saying that they believed in the Iraqi people. So I figured then, and figure now, that the soldiers know more about what’s going on than I do.
It still galls me to have been wrong about the WMDs and twice as much to have been wrong about how the Iraqi people would have responded to Saddam being gone. Half of me thinks “If I had known then what I knew now, I would have argued against the Iraq war, rather than for it.” The other half of me thinks that that’s wasted effort and, looking back, nobody knew that Iraq didn’t have WMDs, not the UN, not even Saddam.
As much as my being “wrong”, if you want to call it that, about the war galls me, Bush has met with the parents of the soldiers who died in Iraq. I merely defended Bush’s decision but *HE* is the guy who made it. As awful as I feel looking and seeing no WMDs, imagine what Bush feels when he thinks about it. As awful and resentful of the Iraqi people as I feel, imagine what Bush feels when he thinks about it. I guess part of me sort of assumed that he slowed down or even stopped meeting with parents after the Cindy Sheehan thing, but it looks like he didn’t. Even after being wrong about the WMDs and wrong about how the Iraqis would respond, Bush has the humility and strength to meet with the parents of the soldiers who fall in Iraq… these same soldiers who, surely, were writing home and saying stuff like “I believe in this mission” to their parents.
Bush sits down with the parents and looks them in the eye. That’s amazing.
Wow.
That’s mind-boggling.
That’s the essay I suppose I should have written rather than the comment that I left. Neil and Streiff probably think that it couldn’t have been written by the real birdmojo as it doesn’t mention “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” once.
And, I suppose, I should look at how the general response to my post was an automatic assumption of sarcasm rather than an automatic assumption that I meant the whole “amazing, wow, mind-boggling” thing (which, I assure you, I did). I don’t talk about the whole Iraq war because I have so many internal conflicts about supporting it in the first place (you know when people were shouting “NEOCON!!!” so much in 2003 and 2004? I knew that they were shouting at the Fiscal Conservatives who weren’t really Social Conservatives but believed in a vigorous Foreign Policy which is to say… I knew that when someone said “neocon”, they were talking about someone just like me). The main lesson I’ve learned from the Iraq War is to not automatically assume that the isolationists/non-interventionists are automatically wrong but I temper that with the whole “you didn’t and couldn’t have known” thing.
Anyhow, the post that got me blammed was *NOT* sarcastic, though I see now how it could have been interpreted as being so.
Birdmojo has never denied that he is not a registered republican. Birdmojo was in fact closer to the classical liberal than the modern libertarian. I knew Birdmojo (Jay) briefly while I live in Colorado, I know that his personal moral compass is true. I know that I could agree with him 95% of the time, even if I didn’t agree with his way of getting his point across. I know that his wit will be missed, at least by me. I hope Birdmojo is not remembered as the guy who took President Bush’s commitment to character lightly, because that would be the absolute opposite of the truth.
Hopefully this will not be my last post, but if it is at least it will have been done for the right reason. Truth.

Good article, recommended
LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Thursday, January 15th at 3:11PM EST (link)All Republicans ought to read the title and take it to heart. Especially Bush and Cheney and their associates.
“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”
Thanks Beaglescout...nt
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Well done, Aaron
Tomlinson Douthat Thursday, January 15th at 4:26PM EST (link)I’m very glad to learn that birdmojo wasn’t saying what I first thought he was saying. And I’m also glad to see him put down his true thoughts in such a compelling manner. I hope to see him back here before long.
E tenguatz lo per vilan qui no-l enten,
O dins son cor voluntiers non l’apren
Thanks Tomlinson....
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 4:28PM EST (link)I doubt that he will be re-instated though.
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“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Look...As someone who has a hyperbolic writing style...I've been under the gun
AceInTX Thursday, January 15th at 4:29PM EST (link)and I’m purportedly not well liked by some of the directors as a result…I’ve butted heads with Bird more than once which you’d expect from two people who are strong in their views and quick with the verbals repost and a sarcastic thought process…but I respect him very much because he’s brought me up short on more than one occasion and made me look like an idiot in more than one occasion when I was operating from an incorrect assumption or faulty information based on memory…because I AM so forceful in myviews and defense of them.
That being said…,most of my best friends started out toe to toe and nose to nose and we’ve become friends out of mutual respect and admiration for each other’s honesty about our beliefs and our abilities to defend and communicate them.
Bird’s been a good contributor and adds much to this site even if he can be controversial…but every bomb thrower has his place…sometimes saying controversial things can benefit us by shaking us out of our lethargy and comfortable way of thinking.
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I forgot to close...Bird deserves to be brought back IMHO to avoid the echo chamber
AceInTX Thursday, January 15th at 4:31PM EST (link)debate strengthens us because it makes us think…Were he a troll then by all means…but he’s proven himself not to be a troll…
Bring him back!
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Courage. <nt>
Leon H. Wolf Thursday, January 15th at 4:33PM EST (link)————
They’re *illusions*, Michael. A trick is something a whore does for money. Or candy!
Conviction, Loyalty...maybe to a fault...I suppose we will see. nt
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 4:36PM EST (link)“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Please bring him back
kyle8 Thursday, January 15th at 4:44PM EST (link)that is a good apology and explanation.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
His track record is such that...
bs Thursday, January 15th at 5:04PM EST (link)he should have been tossed before. Frankly, I think the moderators have shown great restraint.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
bs I understand what you are saying....
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 5:08PM EST (link)and as I said in the diary, I am not appealing for his re-instatement, rather I am just clearing the air as far as what the intent of his comment was. A man should not have to endure his character being degraded, not the President and not the least among us.
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“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Thank you for opening the comments back up Moe...
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 5:11PM EST (link)I assure you this is not a complaint about RedState moderation policies, it is simply what it is.
For those who would like to see Bird back this is not the proper forum for that, use the contact form if you would like to appeal on his behalf.
Thank you.
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I like you Aaron
Caleb Howe Thursday, January 15th at 5:23PM EST (link).. and I don’t recall my having had any specific run-ins with birdmojo in the entire time the two of us have been at Redstate.
Nevertheless, that explanation doesn’t wash for me. Not even a little. In the first place, I don’t see how anyone trying to say something genuine could coincidentally come of like a mocking twit, so either it was gross negligence or his essay is meant as a back-track.
Second, and more importantly, the summary of his essay is “George Bush, either through accident or malice, by his hand killed thousands of our soldiers needlessly, but has the audacity to still chat with their grieving and aggrieved parents in the White House.” Lovely.
He can couch it in all the ‘I’m torn’ phraseology he likes, but I don’t find the message particularly compelling. Except, that is, to say it’s a compelling reason to leave him banned.
I had no particular opinion on the presence or absence of birdmojo before now. I suppose as the provocateur he played his role. But this essay is spitting in the face of the troops, the mission, and the president. Having read it I now have an opinion on his banning.
Good riddance.
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Neil Stevens Thursday, January 15th at 5:31PM EST (link)I banned him because I, like most, read his comment as his usual sarcastic trollery.
But reading his explanation, now the comment comes off to me as a coded BushLied.
It doesn’t help his case in my view, not that it was ever my call whether he comes back or not.
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exactly
Caleb Howe Thursday, January 15th at 5:51PM EST (link)There’s an unmistakable undertone of ‘Bush Lied, People Died’ from at least half of him.
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Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 6:32PM EST (link)So I suppose you have had no internal conflict at all with any policy that on the whole you have supported?
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Sorry that was your take Caleb...
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 5:32PM EST (link)Again for the record, I have interacted with Bird in real life so I suppose it is easier for me to come to the conclusion that he really meant it to not be sarcastic. Having known the man and witnessed his character, I felt the need to do what I believe to be the right thing. You are entitled to you opinion and I won’t try to convince you to change it.
Thanks for the comment.
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Herein lies the problem
bs Thursday, January 15th at 5:56PM EST (link)So maybe the guy’s ok. Maybe you know that, but the vast majority of the readership does not. It is patently obvious that he does not know the difference between sarcasm and seriousness, and more importantly, when to use them. This was a prime example of that handicap.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
That is the problem bs...you are right...
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 6:29PM EST (link)of course I don’t know half the readership either, and yet I manage to learn through time when they are being serious and when they are being sarcastic, that’s how relationships work, both online and in the real world.
It is when we rely purely on assumption and reaction that we fail to distinguish the serious from the sarcastic.
As I said in the diary and a few times in the comments, this is not an appeal to get Bird re-instated, just a defense of a friend’s character to those who may not have bothered to build the type of relationship that I did. I would hope that someone would do the same for me if at some point I made an ambiguous comment that could be read the wrong way.
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I called b.s. on this when it arrived
Streiff Thursday, January 15th at 6:39PM EST (link)an I continue to call b.s. on it.
There was nothing in the man’s comments on this blog that indicates this is anything more than weasel words.
What should be illustrative was that not a single mod, or even a single person on the post in questions, said “hey, whaddaya mean by that.” The reason is simple. We all knew exactly what he meant.
We’re going to miss his constant boosterism of the freedom of dope and the freedom of buggery but let’s not make the man a martyr. He worked long and hard to achieve his reputation an I really hope it was worth it.
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
I Won't Miss Him (nt)
IJB Thursday, January 15th at 6:48PM EST (link)Streiff I respect your position...
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 6:54PM EST (link)clearly I had a different take. Also I did bring up the question in the original thread, just so you know.
I am not trying to make a martyr out of Bird either, but I could not in good conscience let this lie when I knew that he was being sincere.
And while it may not be right to make him a martyr it is also not right to continue to make him into a villain post mortem.
“Land of the Free and Home of da Whopper” Peter Griffin…Family Guy
conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
Steel-Belted Radial Right Winger

“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Simply a contrarian, mostly firing for effect.
Achance Thursday, January 15th at 6:59PM EST (link)I’ve had some pretty good, thoughtful exchanges with Birdmojo, but I called him out as a contrarian a long, long time ago. He’d take a position just for the sake of challenging people and argue either his position or theirs to absurdity.
You never really knew what his personal belief was or when his argument was being made in good faith. That stuff can be entertaining, but it don’t make you a lot of friends. You sow, you reap.
In Vino Veritas
No argument there Art...
Attack Mode Thursday, January 15th at 7:10PM EST (link)he certainly could be a contrarian, in fact one of my first exchanges with him was pretty much me calling him out for that. Over time, and a few beers, I grew to understand why he did that. Sometimes it is a good thing to have your thoughts challenged, it forces you to explain to yourself why you support something. It can either be a positive or negative experience, I suppose it all depends on ones mood and their desire to interact on that sort of level.
But like you said, you sow you reap….I of course was sowing a seed myself in my discussion with him and hoping to reap it at a later time. Making Republicans is not an overnight process.
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“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
As I'm never one to let sleeping dogs lie, me experience with Bird was likewise
AceInTX Thursday, January 15th at 7:15PM EST (link)to tell you the truth…there were many time arguing with him where I’d be confused about his true position because he would play devils advocate on both sides of the issue with such passion that it was hard to tell…
That being said…the Mods have their take and his bit was pretty offensive…if he’s gone he’s gone and deservedly so in this particular instance…
My earlier appeal on his behalf is based on my history with him which fits well with your analysis here.
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Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, January 15th at 8:39PM EST (link)and I don’t this time. As bird’s scziophrenic email shows, he still has a lot to learn, esp from Aaron and me, who have consistently supported President Bush as he stayed the course that made a surge possible and kept this country safe while too many here have been all over the lot changing their positions and alternately slandering president Bush and then praising him in attempts to look magnanimous and “objective.”
Free Bird!
mojo
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I share that same general principle, Devine
icbm Thursday, January 15th at 8:47PM EST (link)and the specific application of it in this case.
Money is Right .........again
$peciallist Thursday, January 15th at 8:53PM EST (link)Bird has BDS that must be cured…..yes we can!!!!
'llist is special and I love the aim of icbm's - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, January 15th at 9:42PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
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Since it's safe to assume your comment is directed at me,
mbecker908 Thursday, January 15th at 9:31PM EST (link)in your standard passive/aggressive mode, I’ll provide a short rebuttal.
First of all, again assuming it’s directed at me, I’ve not been “all over the lot”, I’ve been painfully consistent. I have supported the President;s foreign policies and opposed his domestic policies for the past eight years. I’ve consistently derided his Administrative appointments and I’ve consistently derided his support for his generally excellent judicial appointments. I’ve also consistently criticized his unwillingness to defend either his policies or himself from outright lies perpetrated by the Democrats and the media which has led to the perception that they are right and eventually to the place we are today, with the most liberal, most dangerous Chief Executive in the history of the Republic.
With respect to the man, I’ve also been consistent that I like Bush the man even though I think Bush the President is incompetent. I flat out resent the implication that I’ve “slandered” the President when, in fact, all I’ve done is point out that his performance in office has been, overall, a detriment to the fiscal health of the nation, and - because he’s laid the groundwork for the election of Obama - a detriment to the national security of the nation.
I agree that he’s kept further attacks from our shores, though largely because aQ has been busy recruiting martyrs for us to kill in Iraq. When the Democrats get through downsizing the military again and remaking the State Dept and our relations with the UN and EU, we’ll see just how safe we are. Like it or not, a large part of the legacy of GWB will be how much damage BO does to our national security apparatus over the next few years.
As for your final comment relating to praising him in attempts to look magnanimous and objective.”, you can stick it. I have no interest in an attempt to look magnanimous and you wouldn’t know “objective” with respect to this President if it landed on your head. There is nothing schizophrenic about recognizing a good man who is simply in a job that he is unwilling and/or unable to be successful at because he won’t stand up and fight for policies that are - in fact - right.
And, with respect to bird, I don’t much care one way or the other whether he gets reinstated. I have had no problem with anything he’s written before - although he is frequently all over the lot. I do think the comment to which this diary refers was an incredibly cheap shot at GWB and at military families. And I think his thousand word essay explaining the unexplainable is a touch over the top. That said, I’ll either welcome him back or get over his not being here with equal ardor. And if any of us are to “learn anything”, I would suggest the better models would be Martin, Jeff or streiff.
This reminds of unnamed democrats that declare their
Mike gamecock DeVine Thursday, January 15th at 9:41PM EST (link)patriotism has been challenged! or that ole saying about the dawg that barks is the one that got hit with the stone?
‘becker, I was referring to bird’s schizophrenia in the re-produced email, not you.
But I will say this for bird, he never exhibited paranoid ideations!
I agree you have been consistent and right in your criticism of Bush’s refusal to take on the media attacks against him and that you have been consistently supportive in narrow areas related to national security.
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We can thrash out national security someplace else
mbecker908 Thursday, January 15th at 9:49PM EST (link)it’ll be a massive threadjack here. Needless to say, I disagree.
Don't mind me....
$peciallist Thursday, January 15th at 10:21PM EST (link)Gc and I were talking about Bird…..
And i think Neil started all this……..oppps
Heh.
mbecker908 Thursday, January 15th at 11:04PM EST (link)And where did you get that really cool lemon? You are a genius. Or at the very least, you’re very speciall.
Half of me wants him reinstated
Jack_Savage Thursday, January 15th at 9:48PM EST (link)Half of me wants him to remain gone.
Hey - that’s pretty easy! Maybe I am a libertarian after all.
In all seriousness - I will accept Aaron’s vouching for his character, but in my opinion that is the exact thickness of any ice that is supporting him now.
LOL!!! - 55555 - nt
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I'd like to see suspensions instead of blams for long-time contributors
Finrod Friday, January 16th at 1:04PM EST (link)Don’t get me wrong, I think a good 98 to 99 percent of the blams here are spot on: trolls, mobys, other types just here to cause trouble, or folks that just don’t realize that Words Have Meanings so you need to be willing to stand up for what you write, not just write stuff to metaphorically throw poo at a wall to see what sticks.
But when someone has been here a while and written a lot of comments and then does something that seems blam-worthy, I’d like to see them not blammed permanently, but given a suspension. Put their login on suspension for a month or so, if they come back afterwards, they’ll either have learned their lesson, or they can be blammed permanently later.
Just my $0.03.
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