While Obama was taking a bow on his Asian Apology Tour, Quinnipiac released a new poll in which the President’s ratings also took a bow, h/t Ed Morrisey at Hot Air.
Obama’s job approval rating fell to 48 percent in the Nov. 9-16 survey of registered voters nationwide by the Hamden, Connecticut-based university, with 42 percent polled saying they disapproved of the job he is doing.
The Quinnipiac Poll also showed a drop in approval of the Presidents handling of the war in Afghanistan. Voters now “disapprove 49 – 38 percent of the President’s handling of the war there”. In October that number read 42 – 40 percent approval.
Now, don’t misread this as support for the war effort losing steam.
voters say 65 – 29 percent, including 68 – 25 percent among military households, that eliminating the threat of terrorists operating from Afghanistan “is a worthwhile goal for American troops to fight and possibly die for,” compared to 65 – 28 percent last month.
So the polls seem to say that the people are tired of the current strategy, or lack thereof. At the same time a large majority still believe that Afghanistan is not only a worthwhile goal for American troops, but also that it is worth possibly dying for. That statement carries some amazing weight to it.
We know that the majority of the people want to win the war, we also know they have the will to win. Additionally, we know that the current strategy, or lack thereof, is a failure. The question then becomes, what do we do?
On that, once again, the people are clear.
Voters say 47 – 42 percent that President Obama should send 40,000 more combat troops to Afghanistan as the military commanders on the ground have requested. Only 27 percent of Democrats want more troops, compared to 68 percent of Republicans. Similarly, 68 percent of Republicans, but only 31 percent of Democrats, think the United States is doing the right thing fighting in Afghanistan.
Let me break that down real quick. 47%, a majority, agree with 68% of Republicans. Does that point of agreement possibly show a sign of growing trust in the GOP?
For the answer to that question I will jump over to Rasmussen, h/t John at PowerLine.
Republican candidates maintain a six-point advantage over Democrats in the latest edition of the Generic Congressional Ballot.
This lead has held for four months now, on top of which you also see independents swinging to Republicans 41% to 24%. All of this adds up to the One’s plunge in the Presidential Approval Index.
26% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14. That matches the lowest Approval Index rating yet recorded for this President
I know that losing Republican support causes Obama no heartburn. I also suspect he isn’t concerned with the independents, not because they don’t matter, rather because he still thinks he can control them. What may, in fact, be keeping the One awake at night is this.
Just 47% of Democrats now Strongly Approve of the President’s performance. Sixty-eight percent (68%) of Republicans Strongly Disapprove, as do 43% of those not affiliated with either major political party.
Less than half of the Democrats think the Democratic President and the Democratic Congress are doing anything worthy of their approval. That is awesome, but we’re not done yet.
Rasmussen also asked about the KSM trial being held in NYC with the result of 51% opposing the decision. This on it’s face is a clear majority opinion, but it’s even better than it looks.
just 29% of voters favor the president’s decision not to try the suspects by military tribunal at the Guantanamo Naval Base in Cuba
[snip]
Only 30% of Americans said suspected terrorists should have access to U.S. courts, while 54% favored military tribunals in July 2008, as the first such tribunal got under way at Guantanamo.
The policies of this Administration are now in a clear minority. The people disapprove of the direction these policies are starting to take us. This has been bubbling up for a while and eventually it is bound to overcome Obama’s personal likability with the voters.
When that happens the Republican party needs to be ready to embrace the more conservative shift that we are about to go through. Right now 74% of Republicans feel as though their representatives in Congress are out of touch. Contrast that with this.
Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Republican voters say that Sarah Palin shares their values. Just 18% see her as a divisive force within the GOP.
A clear majority of Republicans are disappointed with the GOP at the same time as they are identifying closely with the values they share with Sarah Palin. And that may worry the President more than any of the other polls I just mentioned.
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Before a libtard says it
mustango (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:22PM EST (link)I will. 47% is not a majority. It is in the context of the poll, a plurality. Now that that piece of low-hanging fruit is taken care of, let us proceed.
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Actually mustango 47% *is* a majority.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:32PM EST (link)A majority means having a greater number. The margin of error on the Quinnipiac poll is +/- 2 percentage points. And since the spread is outside of the margin of error this is a majority rather than just a plurality. No?
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"Majority" is only a synonym of "plurality" if you're British.
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:04PM EST (link)In America, majority means more than 50%.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority
–libtard
CrabCakes, notice your own link.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:27PM EST (link)Place special attention on 3c. I suppose I could have added “of those who have an opinion”, but I didn’t want too insult the intelligence of the readers. Present company excluded. ;^)
-RightWingMeany
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LOL on "present company". nt
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I'm not sure how using words in accordance with their normal and accepted meaning
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:34PM EST (link)would have served “too (sic) insult the intelligence of the readers,” but it’s your post.
Crabby, come on. Do you really want to pick this nit?
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:43PM EST (link)In a three way race less than 50% can be a majority. You know it, I know it. For you to try and go after this is extremely silly. Don’t waste your good name on something like this.
I used the word in its proper sense.
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In American English, less than 50% can never be a majority.
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:00PM EST (link)We use the word “plurality” for an item that has more support than any other option, but fails to achieve more than 50%.
Under your definition of “majority,” Andrew Jackson should have been elected President in 1924. He received more votes than any other candidate, but failed to receive more than 50%. Since the constitution requires a “majority” (Article II Section 1 Clause 3) of the electoral college to elect the President, the election was kicked to the House of Representatives, where John Quincy Adams was elected.
Andrew Jackson should have been elected in 1924???
pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:03PM EST (link)My sig line begs to differ with you.
Eep! I meant 1824!
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:23PM EST (link)My mistake.
(See how easy that was, Aaron.)
Yes, now you should go ahead and admit you're wrong. nt
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CrabCakes are you seriously saying that we have to apply the Constitutional rules of what a majority is to polling results?
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:09PM EST (link)You don’t find your quibble just a bit childish and silly?
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I'm simply saying that the Constitution was written in American English.
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:18PM EST (link)It, like everyone else who speaks American English, assumes that “majority” means more than 50%. If the natural meaning of “majority” isn’t “more than 50%” but rather “more than anyone else,” then Andrew Jackson should have should have taken the Presidency four years before he did.
What I find it a bit childish and silly is that your reaction to someone correcting a simple mistake is to insist that you were right despite all evidence to the contrary. To be honest, though, the only reason I’m keeping the discussion going is that I find your obstinance incredibly amusing.
Actually CrabCakes, I pointed out specifically where I was correct.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:23PM EST (link)What I find childish and silly is that you won’t confront the totality of my post because it makes you feel uncomfortable. This isn’t surprising considering you are watching your world view take a beating.
Come back when you have anything useful to add.
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You pointed out that you would have been correct
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:28PM EST (link)if you had included a few more words to qualify the word “majority.” You didn’t include those words, so your post was inaccurate.
With regard to the content of your post, I’m not all that worried. I wish Sarah Palin nothing but success in her pursuit of the GOP nomination for the 2012 election. In fact, if she’s still in the running by the time Maryland’s primary rolls around, I’ll change my party registration so that I can vote for her.
Sorry, but you are still wrong Crabby
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:31PM EST (link)I even highlighted it for you.
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Its a great post, Aaron. No one said otherwise.
KeepOhioRed (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:35PM EST (link)But I thought the same thing as Mr. Crabs when I read that.
In American politics, a majority means 50+%
So then, leaving aside the fact
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:43PM EST (link)that you have to skip over the first definition, one that directly applies the subject matter at hand, to reach a definition that does not apply to the subject matter at hand in order to avoid admitting that you made a mistake, what is the difference between a “majority” and a “plurality” then? Pollsters and political scientists (and, as noted above, the Constitution) make a big deal about the distinction between the two words. Since you’re discussing polls here and using non-standard terms (actually standard terms in non-standard ways), it would be nice if you would make it clear what you view the difference between the two terms to be.
Wow, you are being really dense Crabby.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:59PM EST (link)You have had to move the goal posts a few times in this argument to try and retain any credibility. It’s sad really. First you assumed I was referring to the obsolete British version of the word, then once I show my work, you pivot to limiting the accepted English definition from 3 common meanings to only two. Then you try and ask for a difference between plurality and majority. Pretty weak if you ask me.
But since I don’t mind explaining myself, here goes. There really isn’t a large difference between a plurality and a majority when it comes to opinion polls. The only real difference between the two is in actual elections and votes in Congress.
Now, do you have anything to add that doesn’t revolve around your limited definition of the word “majority”?
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A super-plurality of people in my office vote to end debate. :) nt
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Seconded. nt
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I didn't assume
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 4:19PM EST (link)that you were using the term in its British sense. I assumed that you misused the word.
I did (apparently wrongly) assume that you know how to use a dictionary and find the definition that applies to the case at hand. Since we’re talking about percentages here, I assumed (wrongly again) that you’d look at the definition that had to do with percentages, not the definition that deals with more murky things like time. (Mis)using the dictionary the way you have here would result in Santa Claus having the square root of -1 as a factor, since he’s “imaginary.”
In addition, your distinction between the use of the terms “plurality” and “majority” in elections versus public opinion polls is silly, which is why no one but you makes that distinction. I’ll make you a deal, though, if you can find Rasmussen, Gallup, or any other major pollster referring to a percentage of less than 50% as a “majority,” then you can consider yourself vindicated.
Crabby, every thesaurus and dictionary disagrees with you, and Obama is still tanking in the polls. Deal with it. nt
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I’m not sure that you know what a thesaurus is.
CrabCakes (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 4:38PM EST (link)I would be shocked if “plurality” and “majority” weren’t listed under each other’s entries because they have similar meanings. So, for example, if you look up “car” you get results like “truck,” “van,” etc., even though trucks and cars are different things.
With regard to dictionary entries, see my comment above about the proper use of a dictionary.
With regard to Obama and the polls, he seems to be doing fine on the whole, hardly tanking. Of course, if it makes you feel better to cherry pick the polls that support what you’d like to believe rather than look at general trends, that’s your choice. I’m sure it’s comforting.
Ok whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better. nt
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A Majority of Minorities
revwarheropeterfrancisco Thursday, November 19th at 10:02AM EST (link)I have to side with Aaron Gardner. A Majority is when one garners the most support out of all possibilities. In a 3 way poll or race if you get more than 1/3 you got a majority because neither one of the other possible can get a bigger majority than you.
To compare how about Race Minorities and Majorities?
Lately they tell us that soon Whites will be a Minority in USA. How can that be?
Well they GROUP all the minorities together and that makes a Majority of Minorities. HUH???
If Whites become only 40% of the Population they are still a MAJORTY if the next group is smaller than 40%. You can’t combine groups and call it a majority. Otherwise you could combines Whites and Mixed Race people who are at least 25% white and with that aditional group call it a Majority White (including partial whites).
When you get a percentage that cannot be surpassed by anyone else you have got the Major Part or Majority of the Vote that no one else could possibly overcome. Therefore a Majority.
Flawed Example.
revwarheropeterfrancisco Thursday, November 19th at 10:07AM EST (link)“I have to side with Aaron Gardner. A Majority is when one garners the most support out of all possibilities. In a 3 way poll or race if you get more than 1/3 you got a majority because neither one of the other possible can get a bigger majority than you.”
This was not correct. When you achieve a % that cannot be overome by either of the others than you have won a majority…which is not 1/3 or 33.1/3% but a number sufficient to no be overcome by the division of the remainder between others. Examples 34% 33% and 33%
50% 49% 1%, etc.
Be careful
martyinaz Friday, November 20th at 5:07AM EST (link)Statistics can be tricky. Remember, it will take 51% of the voters in EACH district to pull off a total victory, and we know that ain’t gonna happen. At the end of the day on election day 2010 we need a majority of the districts to vote for a Republican. That will replace Pelosi. and that will silence Obama.
Like a spider, socialism spins its sticky web, which will hold powerless its victims until they are devoured.
When GOP Has 20-Point Lead in Generic Ballot
farstar99 (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 6:01PM EST (link)That’s when we can begin to hope.
Show of hands- who else thinks Obama should stay in China?
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:27PM EST (link)He could just abdicate the throne- since his fiats and kingly rulings without interference from the serfs seem to suggest that’s what he believes being President means.
The picture of him on the Great Wall is a classic. He looks like a damn metrosexual tourist in that stupid effeminate jacket. Perhaps he can switch it for a cardigan and complete the transformation into a “post-racial” Jimmy Carter.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
Amen obama should of started walking on that China wall
bobojake (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:58PM EST (link)and walked till he found the end of it. It would of been timed just about right.
Reminds me of an old commercial
becolt (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:59PM EST (link)“fall into the Gap…”
Except in this case The Gap is between disapproval and approval among likely voters
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Moe Lane (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:03PM EST (link)And the list doesn’t get any better from there.
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Which is exactly why I hate most of the 25th Amendment, Moe.
Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 3:51PM EST (link)It’s Constitutional only due to ratification but the founders intent was essentially to have a new election with the Vice President holding the office until such time.
I was originally going to say I liked the Alexander Haig model- but that has its obvious flaws as well.
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
Washington DC's Village Idiot!!
LISA BULLOCK-HOCK (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 6:41PM EST (link)Joe Biden has been wrong on everything since the 80′s. He tells so much BS he can’t keep it all straight. Like having to drop out of Presidential race for telling a bogus story, and somehow he becomes the Vice President. Obama new he would be gaff a minute, that is why he picked him–a distraction.
Cut, Cap, and Balance–Imagine that, living within your means. What a concept
Only If It's In Labor Camp (nt)
IJB Wednesday, November 18th at 3:06PM EST (link)(What? Too mean? Oh well…)
Metrosexual jacket...
dudette Thursday, November 19th at 7:49AM EST (link)is better than his Mom jeans and sissy pitch at Take me out to the Ball game
The One cannot be worried about Palin...
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:28PM EST (link)after all, he says he won’t even be reading her book. I wonder if his nose visibly grew when he said that! They probably have a whole staff reading, dissecting, and looking for her exploitable weaknesses in the book.
You're not parsing, right, prof.
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:34PM EST (link)He won’t be “reading” it but you can bet your last dollar that he’ll know every word of it.
There cds and a whole cabal of staff to read it for him.
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Somebody will digest it for him.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:45PM EST (link)That’s what a good chunk of any government executive’s staff does; read and digest stuff to brief the boss. Problem with the system is that the executive is at the mercy of what some staffer thinks is or should be important to him.
In Vino Veritas
Good points, Steph and Art...
azaeroprof (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:51PM EST (link)However, if he feels about Sarah like I feel about him, there is no way he could listen to her book on CD if she is the narrator. If you made me listen to Obama read his own book, you’d have to have a padded room and a straightjacket for me!
I will point out that, unlike Obama, George W. “Village Idiot” Bush actually read lots of books while President. Remember his contest with Karl Rove on who could read the most books? Funny that our “smartest president evah” can’t seem to find time to read books. Hmmmm…
He's too busy listening to Hugo's and Dear Leader's speeches to read -nt-
civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:58PM EST (link)The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
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Perhaps someone
Steph C (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 6:35PM EST (link)will read it to him as a bedtime story.
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Well, actually, the TOTUS will read it for him (nt)
eburke (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:20PM EST (link)“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
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Rumor has it it takes him months to finish one book
peg_c (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 12:20PM EST (link)As opposed to W who read dozens a year while in office. It’s a bit difficult to read a book when you’re partying 24/7.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
I heard yesterday from Rasmussen that...
erod (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:32PM EST (link)Sarah Palin’s approval rating is currently at 52% while Zero’s is at 45%. I think this is amazing considering how much she has been hammered by the media and how “unpopular and damaging” she’s considered to be towards the GOP.
btw I’m at my work computer thing’s get posted twice here :-/
Obamateur pretends polls don't matter
revwarheropeterfrancisco Thursday, November 19th at 10:18AM EST (link)The Obamabutts in the Slave Media will do everything to lift and carry him BUT it won’t be ENOUGH. Actions and Deeds will sink Obamateur and USA.\
People wake up end the INSURGENCY PRESIDENCY.
Imam/Rev. Jeremiah Wright warned us: The Communist Chickens have come home to Roost at the White House.
Obama has no regard for the polls.
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:33PM EST (link)He has doggedly pursued policies and has repeatedly done things that are unpopular or politically insensitive. The public’s reaction to all this is reflected in his plummeting poll numbers. Yet, he does nothing to mitigate this fall even though the political outcome can easily be predicted and evidenced by the results of the 2010 midterms and a one term presidency.
Why do these political realities not bother him? Either you must accept that he is a fool or you must accept that he has plans that will change the inevitable political course that these polls predict.
My take is the latter and, if so, we are in for some very interesting times in the history of this Nation.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
He still could be relying on Barnum's precept
civil truth (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:46PM EST (link)The one about underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
At this point, I think he’s still expecting to ram through his leftist stuff now and then spend next year moving to the right, with the MSM as his press agents, he’ll recreate himself as a fiscal conservative, etc. and rely on short memories to do the rest.
He’s also counting on a well-timed economic “recovery” – or at least some straws that he can build a house with, against with the media pimpiing for him.
However, I do think he may have more malign contigencies around if things don’t go according to plan. Or an October surprise. Mostly it depends on who is really running the Adminstration – how ruthless they are.
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You're right; he doesn't care about polls.
Achance (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:49PM EST (link)The Ds have to go all in on the Soros/SEIU/ACORN agenda and “transform” the US into the USSA and they have to do it before the ’12 elections, preferably for them before the ’10 elections. Once they get their agenda enacted, silly old elections will be the same sort of formality that union elections are; there’s the “approved” slate and there’s the malcontents marked for marginalization or elimination.
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I thought obama was listening to Barnums and Bailey Circus
bobojake (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:02PM EST (link)Thats about as good as it gets with deadfish and axlerid barking the snake oil.
I thought obama was listening to Barnums and Bailey Circus
bobojake (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:02PM EST (link)Thats about as good as it gets with deadfish and axlerid barking the snake oil.
Exactly, Art. nt
Tbone (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 4:19PM EST (link)Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Your right
sloeride Wednesday, November 18th at 5:45PM EST (link)Everyone assumes Obama is interested in re-election. I don’t think so. He figures he can accomplish in 4 years what he can’t do in 8. You can explain and predict what Obama has done and will do by asking this one simple question: Which alternative will harm the USA the most, while still almost being plausible?
Thus my prediction on Afghanistan: A shakeup of the top brass and token reallocation of some forces from Iraq to Afghanistan.
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People, don't you know
outspoken Thursday, November 19th at 2:34PM EST (link)there is current on the books, H.J.Res.5.
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the U.S. to repeal the 22nd article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.
If the donkeycrats can squeak this by without anyone knowing it , WATCH OUT we will become a dictatorship especially after the D’s pass immigration , thereby giving them more voters.
That's been sitting there since Clinton was in office... nt
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The 59%
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:37PM EST (link)is only among Republicans, not the general populace. Also, what mustango said. Besides that, looks like another beautiful day in paradise
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Aesthete, I didn't say the 59% were anything other than republicans...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:40PM EST (link)and again, I am using the dictionary definition of majority.
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Yeah, I know
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:54PM EST (link)I was just pointing it out for the benefit of the readers; I kind of double-taked when I read the SP statistic because I thought it was talking about the general populace. Heaven knows that if I thought it, there’s probably going to be a Palinbot who will run with it
That quibble aside, another day in paradise.
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Heh, I see your point aesthete...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 1:58PM EST (link)Even though it is only Republicans, I still find that stat to be very significant. As the party seeks direction Palin seems to provide a path that is endorsed by many and accepted by most within the GOP. I don’t think she will be involved in electoral politics but I do think she will help push the party back to it’s roots on the right.
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That's true
aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:11PM EST (link)I think it is interesting that, regardless of what you think of her, a young, telegenic politician who is perceived to be “far right” (whatever that means, besides scaaaary conservative) is closer to what Republicans want than the rest of the party. I’m still trying to work out whether that means that Republican voters really like conservatism, or really hate the status quo of the Stupid Party™. In any case, it’s something that could be used to conservatives’ favor within the party, and if our collective guess about the attractiveness of conservatism in 2010 is right, it could prove to be a good convergence of party and populace towards a more conservative direction for that election.
The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice – G.K. Chesterton
Exactly Aesthete. Well said. nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:29PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Palin is not really on the right
dontremaine Thursday, November 19th at 10:28AM EST (link)She is in the middle between the right and left. The extreme left includes people like Obama, Stalin, Hitler… The extreme right is pure anarchy. This was pointed out to me just the other day. It was quite enlightening. Hitler was a socialist not an anarchist. This country is not a democracy as most people believe. In a democracy the majority rules. We are better than a democracy we are a country that is run by the rule of law. Most democrats dislike this feature because the constitution does not allow the passage of 80% or greater of their favorite programs. We as a country have lost our way. A free country does not mean free handouts, it means liberty which has not been supported by the democrats for most of the last century. We need to steer back to the center so that our constitution is a centerpiece of our government. We must stop “The One” before it’s too late.
Don
Um, we need to steer well to the right before we even come close to reaching the "center".
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 11:24AM EST (link)Also, we are a democracy, as well as a republic. The American system of government depends on the fusion of democracy and republican principles, along with a vertical and horizontal spread of powers and restraints on the states and the State.
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He can't hear you Aaron. Obama is hiding in Asia, trying to keep a low profile while the hurricane SarahPalooza is wreaking havoc to his Leftist Kingdom. nt
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:38PM EST (link)Fast forward to 1:30
mschmitt (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 2:51PM EST (link)usque ad finem
Why are Obama's rating still relatively high?
crosley (Diary) Wednesday, November 18th at 4:22PM EST (link)The bloom is clearly off the Obama rose, but Bush was reelected in 2004 with similar numbers. If Obama stays around 50%, there’s a good chance he’ll also win reelection.
The Democrat’s in Congress also won’t run away from Obama with these numbers, he needs to be in the low 40′s, high 30′s before they’re really spooked.
My guess is the American public is still in a “wait and see” mode since it’s only been only 10 months. If the economy is in the same shape this time next year though, he’ll be in the the 30′s.
Still, even though Obama’s number’s have fallen after his disastrous 10 months, they’re holding up. I have a feeling Obama’s base of support is never going to leave him (as opposed to Bush where conservatives jumped ship).
I still think Republicans are going to have to nominate someone formidable to knock him off. I know some conservatives here think we can nominate anyone we want because he’s toast, but I’m more pessimistic. Bush won in 2004 pretty comfortably with these same numbers.
Agreed, crosley
dudette Thursday, November 19th at 7:58AM EST (link)If the Republicans do not make our platform clear and distinct from the dem, we will be lucky to win the 2012 election. O-hole is a politician and will do the dance to the right (atleast in talk) when the time comes. We need a very strong leader on the right.whether that it Palin or not, who knows. I love her and I love the fact that she has a huge sphere of influence and can actively criticize the President on Twitter and have it heard immediately around the world. She can help re-shape the party and the moderates in the beltway will be dragged along.I just wish we could truly get rid of the liberal RINOs high up in the party machine.
Dudette, Palin definitely has a place. We are starting to see her define that place now.
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 11:26AM EST (link)It will be very interesting to watch what she does and the effects of it over the course of the 2010 electoral season.
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This confirms my suspicion that 25 - 30% of this country is hard left
peg_c (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 12:17PM EST (link)and/or flat out insane.
Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem.
And/or/in addition too:
izoneguy (Diary) Thursday, November 19th at 12:57PM EST (link)stupid, lazy, uninformed, unproductive and did I say stupid?
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.