Gov. Christie v. Teachers’ Union Round 2


Rules for Radicals Edition Rule 4

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill* them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

On Friday I posted about Bergen County teachers’ union head Joe Coppola’s prayer for Gov. Christie’s death. Today Gov. Christie met with Barbara Keshishian [h/t Ace**], head of the 200,000-member New Jersey Education Association

The standoff between Christie and Barbara Keshishian, head of the 200,000-member New Jersey Education Association, came hours after the governor urged voters to reject local school budgets in districts where teachers have not agreed to a one-year wage freeze — the majority of districts statewide.

“I just don’t see how citizens should want to support a budget where their teachers have not wanted to be part of the shared sacrifice,” said Christie, whose proposed $820 million cut in school aid has districts planning layoffs and program cuts.

But neither the wage freeze nor the budget cuts were up for discussion in the governor’s office, where Christie hosted Keshishian for about 15 minutes.

… enter Rule 4:

The Republican governor accepted her apology for the memo sent by union officials in Bergen County last week, Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak said. But Keshishian would not agree to force out Joe Coppola, president of the Bergen County Education Association who signed the memo, which effectively ended the meeting, Drewniak said.

… snip …

“What would happen to a student in any of these schools … if they had sent out an e-mail like that? In all likelihood, that student would be suspended, maybe expelled, subject to court action,” Drewniak said. “If the NJEA can’t as an organization accept that this was egregious conduct and take disciplinary action, I don’t know how we could move forward without that happening.”

Gov. Christie is showing some executive talent here. He skillfully frames the budget shortfalls as a shared responsibility which the Teacher’s Union refuses to participate in. He also shows that the budget shortfalls are occurring in almost all districts.

Then, the professional he is, Gov Christie accepts the apology but requires consequences. “I don’t know how we could move forward without that happening.” That just warms my heart.

Not only is he making his opponents live up to their own standards of conduct, he is leveraging the same against them in his budget and labor negotiations.

It’s enjoyable to see that sort of fight in a State executive. What’s more enjoyable is watching the reactions of the left when they realize the table just turned.

Like this***:

Keshishian’s exit from the governor’s office led to a bit of political theater as reporters trailed her to the NJEA headquarters down the block. She declined to discuss the meeting, first saying she and Christie talked about “the weather” and then calling it “just an initial meeting with the governor.”

Asked whether Coppola would quit, she said, “I have no idea.”

Having more than likely seen her ego get kicked around on the floor of Gov. Christie’s office, Barbara wouldn’t even address the issues of the meeting.

I would probably want to forget what happened in there as well.

Aaron B. Gardner

* Now I mean that in the figurative sense, I can’t speak for Saul though.

** For those still thinking “it’s just a joke” is a valid excuse … read all of Ace’s post.

*** Oddly enough, Rule 5 is Ridicule.


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Few things

thatsright (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 12:09AM EDT (link)

Would make me as happy as to see that dreadful Keshishian woman rode out on the rails in disgrace.

Well done.

Russ Cote
www.thats-right.com/rapid-fire-rightness/

 

Go Chris!!

donnylatenight (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 12:36AM EDT (link)

Chris Christie in a rare politician that exceeds expectations. He is grabbing the bull by the horns and doesn’t really care about making enemies of the NJEA (as if they would ever support him anyway)

And he’s right that the dialogue stops until there are serious consequences to those who forwarded around that email.

If a kid in the NJ school wrote that email about a teacher? Almost certainly expelled..

If a member of Christies staff wrote that about a union member?

 

When a union boss in Jersey says he'd like to see you dead, it's not really a joking matter.

Next93 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 12:41AM EDT (link)

N/T

Obama was The One in 2008.
He’ll be a BIGGER one in 2012.

5555! nt.

LaborUnionReport (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 12:57AM EDT (link)

“I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes.” Thomas Paine December 23, 1776

In any compromise between food and poison, it is only death that can win. In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.-Ayn Rand

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"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?!"

Raven (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 9:11AM EDT (link)

There’s a dangerous history around stuff like that being said by people in positions of power. A Dangerous history…

“If you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.”
Luke 22:36

The quote is "troublesome", not "turbulent"...

cwilson (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 9:49AM EDT (link)

King Henry II, vis. Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas Becket, 1170.

But Next93 is right; this is no laughing matter.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

 
 
 

The Right needs to tell the Left to just go screw themselves.

Tbone (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 1:42AM EDT (link)

It’s like the crap about the Virginia slavery thing. Like what, anyone who was “offended” was ever going to vote Republican anyway?

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

The Democrats' worst nightmare

Adjoran (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 1:50AM EDT (link)

is Republicans with backbone.

When we stand up for our principles, the people stand with us.

When they clearly announce theirs – or implement them – the people run from them.

This is your brain on drugs; any questions?

"a republican with a backbone"

kyle8 (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 6:45AM EDT (link)

And it comes as a surprise to them, since they have rarely seen one before.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

That's been the problem for most of the last

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 7:46AM EDT (link)

eighty years. Reagan being the courageous exception. What wonders a backbone can do.

 
 
 

Teachers unions always put themselves first.

NeoKong (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 7:33AM EDT (link)

They make above average pay for working nine months out of twelve and get every single holiday known to man off. They get benefits like they were members of Congress and yet any sacrifice for them is off the table.

Keshishian was not used to someone standing up to her as she probably makes her union members tremble at her very presence.

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Be careful about lumping all teachers together.

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 7:55AM EDT (link)

Good teachers work at least as many hours in their nine months in the classroom as the average worker works in twelve. What with lesson planning and grading papers (I gave essay tests and assigned research papers to even my regular classes, and grading those takes a lot of time), not to mention all the reading and required in-service courses that we do in the summer to stay current or learn more in our field, good teachers are not just babysitters and propaganda dispensers. There are still some good teachers out there, but they seldom get noticed except by some of their students and a handful of aware parents. Take the time to actually get to know your kids’ teachers, and you may be pleasantly surprised.

Generalization is the mother of widsom. nt

IronDioPriest (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 12:03PM EDT (link)

“If we finally fail in this great and glorious contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping for the middle way.”

-John Adams, 1776

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Mostly disagree

MF (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 1:30PM EDT (link)

Dave, I understand where you’re coming from. I truly respect good teachers. There are definitely some good ones out there. But I would ask, if possible, for you (or someone) to quanify the number of hours spent per week by these good teachers, during their nine months. Even add in the extra stuff done during the summer. It’s not going to come close to the hours many of us put in.

What’s most frustrating to me is how the unions have set things up so that there is absolutely no reward for good performance, and no punishment for bad. I look at my local school district and specifically, my son’s school. Some of its best teachers are going to be laid off at the end of this year because funding isn’t adequate, and they happen to be teachers with less seniority than some of the poorer teachers who have more seniority.

Get rid of the unions completely, vastly pare down the upper levels of educational bureaucracy, and there would be plenty of money for the schools. But union and governmental bloat have destroyed public education.

Exactly

chabsentia Wednesday, April 14th at 3:51PM EDT (link)

We have a move here in Florida by the State legisature to eliminate Tenure for teachers and tie any salary and.or bonuses to their perfomance which would be indicated in one form to the progress of the Students and the teachers unions are fighting it aggressively.Meanwhile our RINO governor is threatening to veto it if passed in order to get their vote for his Senate run. I will believe in the sincerity of these teachers when they agree to be judged bt heri performance as I have had dealings with them when my son was of school age.

 
 
 
 

Remember, the NJEA goons get union pay for their

renny (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 8:15AM EDT (link)

plus their teaching salary with full benefits, annually, year after year.

The idea comes from the long ago era when both politicians, union leaders, and teachers made below-average wages.

Today, the NJEA president can rake in up to $500,000, and legally receive his/her teacher’s salary, plus increments, raises, and benefits.

Whadda joke, and then she has the bad manners and immature reactions of a teenager when meeting with the governor, who was elected to straighten out the fiscal miss in NJ.

 

Just saw the Governor on "Morning Joe" -

throwback59 Tuesday, April 13th at 8:31AM EDT (link)

I really like this guy.

Just saw the Governor on "Morning Joe" -

EDGIBBON Tuesday, April 13th at 8:00PM EDT (link)

…as did I.

He’s exposing what public sector unions are all about (and it’s not concern for their fellow man) i.e. getting as much as they can, for as little production as possible. Any discussion of the depths of the feeling they have for their union “brothers” or anyone else is utter nonsense! He combats them with reason and common sense…they have and will have no answer. That’s why they want him gone

Christie rocks!

I agree with Rahm::::never let a good crisis go to waste

 
 

Dear Mitch McConnell, et al- this is what it means to have "stones"

Marcus_Traianus (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 9:11AM EDT (link)

Tough times require tough choices based is sagacious, well reasoned alternatives. They do not require Mehl im Maule behalten, negotiations which obfuscate your principles or require yielding to opponents when it is politically opportunistic.

NJ is in the hole for about $11 billion on a $29 billion dollar budget. While the state lost over 121,00 private sector jobs, municipalities and teachers hired over 11,000 people. Teachers contribute nothing to their health care while the state contribution is generally over $500k. Teachers also contribute about 0.03% to their pensions, while the state picks up the rest, which is generally in the millions of dollars- but it’s for the children.

This country just spent $6.5 trillion dollars last year under the Democrats and President Obama. We now have a health care entitlement that will be the financial coupe de grace and add trillions of dollars to the deficits and destroy our system. But really, live with it Mitch and pals, or print those “Repeal and Replace” bumper stickers and ride the tea party wave into our next election instead of directly, forcefully and righteously addressing the issues- taking no prisoners.

Go Governor Christie. Show them how New Jersey does it. Righteously.

“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson

 

Almost brought tears to my eyes

wilfranc Tuesday, April 13th at 9:17AM EDT (link)

Christie, Ryan, Rubio, stand out because they all display so much integrity in a political landscape littered with political reprobates.

None the above named resort to talking points, they create their own. They speak from where they are at to their audience, or so it seems they try to avoid insulting the intelligence of voters without becoming arrogant about their own.

What Christie understands is that teacher unions are not about children, but adults. They are not about education, but working conditions and benefits.

They contrast with Palin because they are becoming known nationally in lower levels of government (kind of in a Rudy G way).

 

That's surprising, to see the NJ MSM put the union head on the spot

smagar (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 9:21AM EDT (link)

…by trailing her to her office like that.

Normally the MSM gives the Dems cover to slip away.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

Maybe they were just hoping for a

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 8:01AM EDT (link)

nice “bitchy” sound bite they could air on the nightly news.

 
 

Now Christie should never let her or any other NJEA rep

Achance (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 10:10AM EDT (link)

into his office nor allow them to see any of his cabinet. If they have business with the State, they can pursue that business through collective bargaining processes, not political processes.

In Vino Veritas

Oh, that's a great idea, just violate their

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 8:03AM EDT (link)

First Amendment right of assembly. We can solve all our problems by violating the Constitution. Oh, wait, that’s what the Demrats are doing. Never mind.

Oops, sorry that should have been posted to the comment below.

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 8:05AM EDT (link)

I hit the wrong reply button.

 

That's a common misunderstanding of unionization.

Achance (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 9:15AM EDT (link)

Of course they have the right to freely assemble and petition the government. They do not as citizens qua citizens have the right to compel the government to do anything as the result of their assembly or petition. What collective bargaining does is give them legal rights regarding the government’s response to their assembly and petition. If employees have the right to unionize, and it is a statutory right, not a constitution right in most places, then once the union demonstrates majority support, the government MUST meet and bargain in good faith and if an agreement is reached, it is valid and enforceable by the courts (though usually it incorporates a grievance procedure ending in arbitration so that resort to the courts may be avoided)

Where the 1st Am. comes into play is in compelled dues where the courts have held that compelled dues violate an employee’s right to speech and assembly if those compelled dues are used for “social, fraternal, and political activities.”

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 

There is a total solution

Castor (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 10:56AM EDT (link)

All Federal and State Employees whose salaries are paid by the taxpayers should be banned from union membership. PERIOD!

A Republican would have to have the stones to repeal EO10899.

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 11:57AM EDT (link)

But that might make “moderates” cry …

 

Chris Christie is now officially my favorite politician.

Martin Knight (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 12:19PM EDT (link)

Christie is amazing.

A Republican Governor taking on public employee unions in deep Blue state … wholeheartedly and without flinching. Compare that to the debacle that is the Girlie-man Governor in California.

And to think I was a bit disappointed when he beat Lonegan in the primary …

 

You can have public employee bargaining if you ban

Achance (Diary) Tuesday, April 13th at 12:21PM EDT (link)

public employee collective participation in politics or you can have public employee collective participation in politics if you ban public employee collective bargaining. If you have both, you very quickly turn unionized public employees into a socialist workers’ party and that’s what we’re seeing now. The old-time trade unions hardly figure in AFL-CIO internal politics; it is all public employees and third sector employees. Even the Teamsters hardly represent truckers any more; they’re a wall to wall union that will represent anybody who’ll sign a card for them, including lots of public employees. SEIU is mostly third sector with a large segment of public employees as well. AFSCME and NEA are exclusively public.

Representing only public employees frees a “union” from almost all federal regulation, especially that troublesome Labor Management Reporting and Disclosure Act (LMRDA) that makes unions report what they pay their officers and staff and what they spend their money on. Most public employee unions are merely state-chartered non-profit corporations subject only to minimal state regulation, if any at all. These state-chartered corporations then enter into affiliation agreements with the national organizations, and, of course, pay per capita fees to the national. But since that money isn’t really subject to much regulation, they can spend it on whatever they like. The only real restraint is state and federal campaign contribution laws.

The whole mess needs a thorough study and consistent regulation, but here angels fear to tread. I authored and tried to carry a bill drastically changing Alaska’s very free-wheeling public employee bargaining law. The bill had the enthusiastic support of the leadership and we had a veto proof majority in both bodies, which we needed because the Democrat governor was sworn to veto it. Despite our best efforts, it died on the last night of the session because we couldn’t get the 27th vote without the 21st and couldn’t get the 21st without the 27th – and that was with complete Republican control of the Legislature. You just can’t get past that segment of Republicans who beleive that if they’re just nice to them, the unions will stop beating them.

In Vino Veritas

Governor Locke is now doing other things

hickorystick (Diary) Wednesday, April 14th at 9:52AM EDT (link)

because he had the gall to suspend a teachers pay increase. Gained by initiative at the ballot box, he dumped it to balance the budget. The Democrat Party had that talk with him, and he proved himself a smart kid, and found another line of work.

 
 
 

Now if we can just get

taxmaiden Wednesday, April 14th at 7:35AM EDT (link)

a president in the White House to do the same thing for the country…

“It is futile to fight against, if one does not know what one is fighting for” – Ayn Rand

 

Nicely Done!

polaedra28 Wednesday, April 14th at 10:50AM EDT (link)

Nicely done Gov. Christie. A republican who has a spine. I love it!