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Taking a hiatus, here’s something to chew on for the primaries.

I have decided to take a vacation from RedState.  The pre-primary season has already set a tone and it’s not one I tend to care for.  I’m a fighter by nature, protective of my colleagues and the community at large, with that comes a certain passion that can manifest itself in de-constructing trolls, mobies, libertines, and other various miscreants of the blogosphere.

Now, because I want to foster a better community here on RedState, my University of Conservatism, and knowing full well that the primaries are going to be filled with shills, trolls, mobies, cultists and various other miscreants equivocating with the express intent to prevaricate, I will be taking a self imposed hiatus.  I am not sure exactly how long I will be gone, but I will always be lurking, plotting my return.

Before I go, in keeping with tradition here at RedState, I will give my two cents for the 2012 Republican Primaries.

First, let me echo back to Thomas Crown’s post for a bit of his analysis on Gov. Huckabee and Gov. Romney.

Now, for the second coming of Huey Long: Governor Huckabee. I’d like to congratulate you on getting a core component of the Republican base to forget one of the most vital lessons of modern American politics: Never vote for the governor of Arkansas for anything. Now, as Texan, and son of Louisiana, I have to confess I’m perhaps disproportionately amazed at this feat, as we get to see you and yours on an unfortunately consistent basis. But credit where due: You’re offering a lot of my fellow conservatives a cyanide pill, and they’re begging for the chance to swallow it.

… snip …

Your problems are two-fold, and in a sense, it’s not fair for me to criticize you: You’ve only been on the radar for a little while, and haven’t had the chance to lie yourself into a pretzel the way Mitt Romney has.

Thomas’ first point still holds water.  The second, of course is no longer true as Huckabee, as he’s now known, has been on the radar and has managed to make Romney look like a piker.  And that’s all the respect I am giving that.  On to the idea of Romney Redux.

You lie about your record and your past. Don’t do that. That’s Al Gore’s way of dealing with a disappointed father. I understand that this is an attempt to rebrand the product, but you aren’t [bleep]ing Coca-Cola: We don’t care about New Coke, we care that you pretend that public funding of abortions is taking a pro-life stance.

This has become even more apparent since the health care debate.  Romney is fully capable of some serious contortions and distortions when it comes to health care, especially with the passage of Obamacare.  Mitt is an absolute nonstarter for me because of his plastic smile and the fact that his record is in direct contradiction to the Reagan tradition and more importantly, the will of the electorate (but I repeat myself).

As for other re-runs of the 2008 fiasco, I won’t even dignify the idea of McCain.  I don’t care that he has done well the last session.  He is dead to me as a candidate for any type of higher office.

Ron Paul is still Ron Paul.

Now, I am going to get a bit more controversial and discuss the candidates I would support and the strengths and weaknesses of each.

Gov. Mitch Daniels.  He is considered a good fiscal conservative, has a history of fiscal prudence, and did very well in his time as Governor of Indiana.  That said, he has made some statements that have ruffled the feathers of conservatives by deciding that the stool that Reagan built really can stand on two legs.  Unfortunately for Mitch, that’s just not how the stool was engineered.  This was a problem that Rudy Guiliani had as well, to his detriment.

Now, Republicans know that to run a campaign for the Republican Presidential nomination in the post-Reagan era, one must do at least minimal obeisance to the three pillars of modern Republicanism: Strong national defense, fiscal conservatism, and social conservatism. We also know that we have to speak in optimistic, glowing terms about the American Republic, because it really is the best nation on God’s green Earth, and people would like to be reminded every so often; and following from that, our national candidate must speak of national beliefs and goals.

… snip …

you have spent your entire campaign going on about the “two legs” of the Republican platform, omitting social conservatism, and your entire campaign has been spent talking about New York. You have tried to insist that the peg is really round, refusing to even speak of its angles,

You can’t get the coalition you need by ignoring, or calling truce, on social issues.  You may not love that arrangement, but that’s the arrangement.  You can recover from this, but it will take a lot of wonky talk that many will simply tune out, if they were paying attention in the first place.  Yeah, your dull.  I am sorry if I am the first to mention this.

Herman Cain.  I love the idea of a successful businessman who came up on his own climbing to the heights of the Presidency.  I got to meet Mr. Cain at the last RedState gathering and I found him to be a captivating guy who is down to earth and driven.  All of that said, I don’t know that he can do it.  Forbes couldn’t, and even though I would say Cain has a much better chance than Forbes of inspiring people to vote for him, I still don’t think that is enough for him to be remembered as much more than an “also ran” when the wiki entry gets written.  If he proves me wrong, 2012 will be the best General Election Season EVAH.  Win or Lose.  But I do want to win, moving on.

Gov. Haley Barbour.  I could easily get behind Boss Hogg Barbour 2012 depending on how the primaries flesh out.  Barbour is a pretty solid conservative across the board and an amazing manager and influencer of people.  Out of all of the candidates, I don’t think I would be wrong in saying he is, by far, the most politically savvy.  The man just knows how to sell it.  The question is, will the greater electorate accept Boss Hogg an unmistakable and unashamed southerner as their candidate.  This ain’t fair, but it is something Barbour must overcome in order to win.  Additionally, his lobbyist ties, while more honorable than most, will be a subject of debate.  It will get ugly and motives will be questioned.  This may be insurmountable in a Tea Party environment where lobbyist=pork=deficit=bad=HULKSMASH!!! Gray is the least talked about minority.

Gov. Sarah Palin.  I am going to be a bit more thorough here because I know Sarah has a lot of fans here, I want to make sure I am clear, while we are at it, allow me to reiterate that this is in the “I would support” section of the post.  Palin has some huge positives, she has a built in base that is fired up, she can message like no one else out there – maybe more effective than Rush (Forgive me El Rushbo) – and she has a great personal story.  Additionally she does have executive experience at various levels of government which provides her with a greater perspective about the functions of government at different levels.  This, I assume, serves to buttress her views on the Federal government and the role of Federalism.  Palin is also unquestionably pro-life, she understands on a fundamental level the value of life and the implications that has on our governance as a nation.  I am unequivocal in saying I have no problem voting for Sarah Palin for President of the United States and I would be extremely proud of our Party, and our nation for making that come to pass.

That said, and I know this will be tricky for some, Sarah Palin has some very large obstacles to overcome.  I know it hurts feelings when this gets brought up, but it must be brought up if we are to have an honest discussion about the possibility of Palin being our candidate.  In the two years since Palin coming into the national spotlight, she is still upside down in F/U ratings with name exposure higher than any other candidate.  Granted, plenty of that is due to misconceptions created by the media, but the point remains that Palin hasn’t been able to overcome the misconceptions.  At least not at a pace that I would see working out in time for November 2012.  Some have the tendency of blaming everyone but Sarah herself for this, to them, I would ask that they look up “Operation Leper“, RedState was the praetorian guard long before it was hip.  For those who fall into this category, while you don’t really hurt Palin’s F/U ratings, you certainly aren’t helping.  If you want her as the candidate and to be able to win, I suggest you seriously consider adjusting your tactics.

Furthermore, there is the subject of Gov. Palin’s term as governor.  It wasn’t all conservative unicorns and pixie dust flowing from the Governors office.  There is the very real problem of being entangled in ethics complaints that were a direct result of a) skirting the system by using non office email to discuss office issues, and b) signing into law an ethical standard that was ripe for abuse by those seeking political payback.  Some will admit that these were mistakes, but that this is just more positive experience because she’s learned from it.  I want this to be true, but I see no clear evidence of this.  She left rather than fight to overcome.  I think this was a positive outcome for the state and allowed Palin to be more free, but that doesn’t change the fact that nothing was resolved.  I don’t think this will be ignored in the primary as it is a legitimate question with regards to how Palin may act as the chief executive of the nation.  I don’t think she will make it out of this without taking some serious damage.

Palin also has a less tangible problem on her hands as well.  There is a not insignificant group that is projecting onto Palin whatever they want her to be.  This isn’t healthy behavior and I think it feeds into the narrative of Palin followers being cult like.  Like it or not, this affects perceptions of the candidate more so than the supporter.  Unfortunately, this is out of Palin’s control, unless she really can herd the cats at C4P.

Lastly, Palin is the heiress apparent.  I guess I am just contrarian that way.

Continuing with the contrarian theme, and rounding out the field as my personal favorite, we have Congressman Mike Pence from Indiana.  Just like 08, when I supported FRED DALTON THOMPSON, I am intent on being disappointed by supporting someone who would be perfect for the job but will probably never even try this time around, opting instead to be the Gov. of Indiana.  This despite a draft effort and the support of Erick and many others in the conservative movement.  I understand the logic, though it isn’t as strong as people think.  Of the 44 Presidents we’ve had, only 17 had been governors first.  While it is a nice notch to have on your belt, it certainly isn’t needed to win the presidency, or be an effective president.

Pence is also not without some level of private sector executive experience as president of the Indiana Policy Review Foundation, a conservative think tank.  He is also a proven communicator, having had a statewide radio show in Indiana.  Then of course there is his tenure in the House, where he has been a stellar conservative serving in the leadership, on key committees like the Foreign Affairs Sub Committee on the Middle East and South Asia – and unlike Obama he’s actually active in those committees, not just using them a window dressing on an otherwise vapid existence.

Pence’s weaknesses are limited to lower national name exposure outside of political fiends like us, and the idea that, because he’s just a congressman, he can’t get elected.  The former is easily overcome in this digital age the current occupant of 1600 Penn Ave proved that, to Hillary’s continuing shock.  The latter is tougher, being a ingrained perception not unlike Palin, while being on a considerably smaller and more containable scale.

It is my opinion that Rep. Pence has the goods, can unite the coalition better than any of the current candidates including Palin, and if given the chance, could return our nation to a tradition of humble servants seeking the highest office in the land and governing as the peoples advocate.  If he can overcome the perceptions and the low name recognition, he would be a formidable opponent unafraid to carry the banner of conservatism and the Republican party into battle and plant if firmly in Obama’s chest Nov 2012.

With that, see you all, well those of you who don’t get banned, when I return.

Flame on.

Aaron B. Gardner

COMMENTS

  • Wubbies World

    I do genuinely hope that you will at least lurk and read and not completely go away. I will look forward to your return to the front page.

    I wish you all the best.

  • JadedByPolitics

    that’s one heck of a break and I submit if you are gone that long you probably won’t come back. I think if you can break the Redstate habit for longer then a couple of months quite like other addictions you may have broken your addiction :)

  • carolina
  • eburke

    Everybody’s got to do what they’ve got to do, but this level of discourse and insight will be sorely missed in the weeks and months ahead so consider this my personal plea, fwiw, for you to make your absence short-lived.

    This kind of incisive insight will be missed.

  • azaeroprof

    I could have just about written your entire post myself. We are in almost complete agreement on everything except the final conclusion in the Palin vs Pence debate. I don’t disagree with anything you wrote about Sarah, I’m just willing to keep her on the top of my list for now. But I could get behind a Pence candidacy almost as enthusiastically as a Palin candidacy. Sadly, I’m afraid that neither of them will run.

  • itrytobenice

    I avoided the Pence/Palin diaries like the plague, because that kind of stuff makes me kind of crazy.

    But I love your clear headed analysis and agree with virtually everything you said here. Excellent work.

    And enjoy your hiatus, but I’ve gotta say, I’d rather give up a kidney than have to pull out of my favorite political site in the lead up to 2012, though I expect to click out of a lot of windows without reading more than enough to make me tick a little bit.

  • http://www.flaliberty.org scorpio0679

    Fantastic round-up. I really hope that either Palin or Pence run, and that it is with the active, enthusiastic support of the other. I am a big fan of Sarah Palin, but I think I’ve come to believe that Pence has the better chance of winning. However, that would only be with the enthusiastic endorsement and active support of Palin and her supporters.

    You did fail to hit on John Thune who apparently is wriggling a way into the game. He is another ultra-establishmentarian that I hope goes away just as fast as Mitch Daniels.

  • danasdaddy

    Your commentary and insight will be missed, Aaron. Hurry back so we don;t go into withdrawal.

    I would really have enjoyed a more detailed analysis of what you think about Herman Cain, as he really intrigues me.

    What you’ve said about the other possible candidates rings true to me. There may be some variances over the next several months as things play out, but overall I think your dismissal of Huckabee and Romney will prove prophetic when all is said and done.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    And as far as I’m concerned you’re an editor on vacation.

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    We’ll see you when you get back.

  • redneck_hippie

    Some may have noticed I became pretty scarce around here this past fall..

    We want you back and better than ever, and know it is merely an intermission.

  • Scope

    but after reading this-

    “The pre-primary season has already set a tone and it

  • fpete13527

    Your comments and contributions as moderator have been right on IMO.

  • altexas

    I should point out that the POTUS campaign always involves two people. A back up Pres that can carry votes is as important as a number one winner. (Kennedy-Johnson)

    Sarah does carry a lot of negatives and Herman is virtually unknown but both would pull a lot of wieght as a number two to Rep. Pence. I would vote for any combination of two of the group you listed. I do love Herman though. His voice makes me feel comfortable lke Reagan did.

  • speciallist

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    He’s been an editor but not a moderator.

  • fpete13527
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    He’s not leaving. He’s taking a break.

  • Tbone

    Took a break once myself but like a bad penny….

    Anyway, HB to the kid and enjoy the fresh air. You are hereby allotted a maximum of 60 days leave.

    PS. If you just can’t stand it, create a login under “mbecker906″ and have fun. LOL

  • Aaron Gardner
  • E Pluribus Unum

    Although if you are saying miscreants are a bad thing, perhaps my own hiatus is in order……

  • speciallist

    by breakfast tomorrow….as long as he doesn’t drink that whole bottle of Tequila…

    stay sober Aaron!

  • aesthete

    And there’s always a place for you on RS. I definitely know how you feel, and I hope that you can get the relaxation that you deserve while away. Good, level-headed analysis, as well. Won’t say I agree with every little thing, but I certainly agree with the broad points you made (especially concerning Romney and Huck).

  • sbo6220

    All of the sudden there are all the questions to her (on Fox) about a possible run. She is hated by the left (a plus until they get their media hacks going), but has a strong conservative record and is an avid supported of the Tea Party types. I don’t belong to a Tea Party, but I have the same leanings as many of them.

    See what happens on the left when she shows up in Iowa soon.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    drop me an email, we’ll see to delivery. :-)

  • NeoKong

    This is not gay.
    Well….maybe a little.

  • Castor

    for Bin Laden, you go with my blessing

  • AceInTX

    seriously…You’re one of the few people here I agree with the most…yeah we’ve had our debates…and yeah we’ve delivered our jabs at each other…and I hope we are both better for it…I know I am.

    I agree wholeheartedly on almost every thing you’ve written here.

    This is my take on the whole thing. I’ll save Palin and Romney for last because they both need special attention and because I believe…in the end…it’s going to come down to a choice between the two ultimately.

    First…my likes…

    I’m most in line with Barbour and am currently supporting him as my number one pick.because of all the positives you mention. Mainly I like the way he speaks…(as a southerner…who’d have thunk it right…heh)…anyway…he has a down home way of putting things that makes sense to the common man and I think he could sway a lot of working class social and fiscal issues middle class folks our way…I think he’ll destroy anyone in the debates… assuming they aren’t so crowded that he never get’s a chance to speak…Of course…he’ll have the same problem Fred had in not being called on by debate moderators since they’ll be focusing all the lights on Romney firsts, Huckabee second…and Palin for the fire works…she’ll get all the gotcha questions…mark it down…I said it here

    That said…(second to the aforementioned debate problem) has already manifested itself…any attention he does get in the debates are going to be about his comments from the Weekly Standard piece on him and the firestorm that resulted on his comments about the role of the white Citizens Council in his hometown of Yazoo City in school desegregation. He’ll be poked and prodded up one side and down the other about the civil rights era and his home state of Mississippi…if he can get past this…and get a fair shake…I think he can seize the brass ring…if he can’t get out of this predictable vice…then he’s toast…

    Pence is my next choice. I love the guy…you can go back to comments I made back on 2008 to see he’s been on my RADAR going back to then…I also agree with your spot on analysis on him…the only thing I would add is…name recognition…Pence is a rock star with the base…particularly social conservatives……but to the rest of America?

    “Pence Who? ”

    “Oh…he’s that guy that looks like Race Bannon from Johnie Quest fame?”

    “Don’t know nothing about him”

    He’ll have to overcome not only the Congressional Curse to take the white house…he’ll have to introduce himself to 95% of this country who don’t have the first clue as to who he is. I Love the guy and if all the above can be overcome…I’d be behind him 100%…even above Haley or anyone else running…I just don’t see him doing it…I think he’s doing it right going for Gov.

    Mitch Daniels? Please! You only get one chance to make a first impression…and his first impression wasn’t good…and he’s gone on to worsen that impression. Aside from a post here at Red State a year ago by Erick a couple years ago…I’d never heard of the guy…Erick was very positive toward him but even in the glowing review we learned that Mitch Daniels first instinct as governor was to call for a class warfare tax on millionaires. Then in his very first introduction to the nation…the first words out of his mouth were about truces and how Social Conservatives need to give up on saving babies because there are more important things to discuss…Then he comes out in later articles declaring we all have to be grown ups and be willing to discuss raising taxes on a national level so we can fix our budget problem….and his latest? Given the perfect opportunity to show his leadership skills in pushing for right to work legislation in his state…where the Republican Party holds majorities in both houses what does he do…he just sits there like a knot on a log…I can’t figure for the life of me what anyone sees in the guy…and then there is his personality…are we really going to run Mr Milk Toast himself against Mr Personality? Teleprompters or not…Obama is anything but boring…in campaign mode he’s brilliant…the Teflon seems to be gone now…but will it be in 12?…Even if all the above weren’t true about Mitch…do we really want to see HIM carrying our banned against Obama? Think back to All Bore in 2000…or Michael Dukakis in 1988…Obama would KILL him on personality alone…

    I won’t even go into it on the others…Huckabee?…the only reason I would give him a second look would be a desperation move to stop Romney…

    There are a couple you didn’t mention…

    Santorum? I haven’t stopped to kick the tires on him yet…and have no reason to at the moment. If he sparks…and he can move onto the scene with a little fire behind him…I could see myself jumpoing on the bandwagon…

    Rudy? Not on your life

    On Romney…I wouldn’t pee on him to put him out if her were on fire. He’s Mr. Fantastic…the incredible elastic man…he stands for everything and nothing simultaneously…he never met a political position he hasn’t held…or won’t hold in the future if that’s what it takes to achieve daddy’s dream of a Romney in the White House.

    He was for abortion before he was against it.

    He was for banning the Department of Education before he was against it

    He was against school prayer before he was for it

    He was for gun control before he was against it supporting the assault weapons ban…the Brady bill and he passed licensing laws in MA requiring a six year license to be allowed to own a fire arm…yet he says he supports the Second Amendment…hmm, (scratching chin)

    In 2008 it was a different story all together…he at one point said he owned a gun and then later said he didn’t and justified his earlier statement by trying to clarify that his son owned two.

    He was for Detroit bailouts before bailouts were cool. then opposed them when they became real…

    And he was for Cap and Trade in 2005 saying it was good for jobs `

  • AceInTX

    seriously…You’re one of the few people here I agree with the most…yeah we’ve had our debates…and yeah we’ve delivered our jabs at each other…and I hope we are both better for it…I know I am.

    I agree wholeheartedly on almost every thing you’ve written here and wanted to add my take…it’s gotten long enough to justify a full diary post so you can look at it there if you’re of a mind to.

    I’ll come back and post the link when I get it posted.

  • AceInTX

    and he’ll be back

  • AceInTX

    hah

  • AceInTX

    to say nothing for the shirt and harry chest open to the belly button…

    brings back sick memory’s from my youth…I can’t believe we dressed that way on purpose…

    heh

  • NeoKong

    You loved it.

  • AceInTX

  • NeoKong

    Bring it.

  • graciegirl

    Please re-consider. You are such an important member of this community.

  • Maggie_in_Indiana

    You’ll be back for that I take it. I’ve never really left Redstate but have learned to ” lurk ” with a more open mind. I’ll miss lurking in on your posts but take comfort in the fact that you are as addicted to this site as I am.

  • SoFiMil
  • Change Jar Conservative

    but I like you despite it.

    To equate Mitch Daniels’ one statement with Rudy Guiliani’s belief system is flaw in logic, but at least it’s out in the open.

    Come back soon and happy lurking.