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Seeking Whom They May Devour

It is a place or time of darkness and threat, of fear and oppression. People are suffering. They are dying. It is a time when a man waits for his fate, expecting to be agonizingly tortured to death. He is afraid. He is distraught.

Alone.

In such a place, a man’s heart reaches for comfort. In such times, man turns to God.

Faith in our religious beliefs is one of the most compelling forces in history. It drives that extra step, it calms the panic of fear, it comforts the sorrow of deep loss. Christians lean on God and the Lord Jesus Christ in their most trying times. They also, when they can, reach out to one another.

There is a tradition in Christianity. A tradition passed down by priest and by nun, by country pastor and puritan. It was shared in secret meetings hiding from Soviet guns, it was preached from makeshift pulpits in the jungle’s depths, and it was told around campfires by men who kept their boots, rifle, and Bible in a saddlebag. It is the sharing of the symbol in the dirt.

Early Christians, in times of trouble, unable to speak aloud their faith, would trace the sign of the fish or the Cross in the dirt; a secret communication to tell their troubled brothers and sisters that they were not alone. I am here, it said, I believe. He is with you. This tradition has traversed the ages. It was there in Nazi Germany. It penetrated the Soviet Gulags. It survived the jungle death camps of Vietnam. In his great time of need, the sign of the Cross brought hope to John McCain.

That is the story of the Cross in the dirt. Some outsiders have concluded that, because the symbol was shared with two different men in nightmare conditions during the same century, John McCain must be lying about his time as POW. It’s hard, sometimes, to fully appreciate the vileness and ignorance of the DailyKos crowd in America. Harder still, though, is accepting that the biases of the leftwing press are so insidious as to give the conspiracy fever-swamp the veneer of legitimacy. So left wing websites and press outlets have given this unfounded conspiracy air time and treat it like a genuine question, so desperate are they to attack Senator McCain.

The forces of the left are marshaling against John McCain. We know this. But which forces, I must ponder, are compelling them to attack his moment of solace in the hands of God?

COMMENTS

  • Erick
  • spainishirish

    I was afraid it might take another cycle or two to expose the MSNBCs, Kossacks, Sullivans, ad nauseum, as the frauds they are. Fortunately, they are imploding right along with the Obama campaign in front of the public.

  • Jaded

    nt

  • furious

    …was, prior to the 1954 demarcation, the most French and heavily Catholic of France’s Indochina possessions, it’s not a stretch that a 20-30-year-old NVA conscript during the late 60′s had been baptized Catholic as a child and (surreptitiously) remembered his Catechism.

    Russian Orthodox cross themselves, too? What an unlikely coincidence! Who’s to say Solzhenitsyn didn’t concoct his story? In the Kossniks’ demented calculus, the man is a much better target because he’s dead and can’t defend himself.

    This will play in Peoria about as well as “General Betrayus” did. The Kossniks’ media enablers are doing the electorate a favor by exposing their group dementia for all to see.

  • civil_truth

    Excellent, and a most poignant crie de coeur. To attack McCain on this point is beneath contempt.

    • Dan_McLaughlin

      The sacrifices we make.

      This is excellent work, absentee.

      • Mark_Kilmer

        What kind of person attacks a Prisoner of War, a soldier held captive and subjected to unspeakable tortures and deprivations, on his recollections of his time in that condition? This strikes me as singularly obscene.

        I’m not going to pain every Dem, or every Dem online, with that brush, but those for whom the shade fits… wow.

        • chemjeff2

          …and if you want to keep down your lunch, don’t read the comments in the Daily Kos diary. They will make you both angry and sick. These sick sick people at Kos actually want to broadcast McCain’s coerced ‘confessions’ at the hands of the North Vietnamese. Why? Because they actually believe they are true. Because they actually hate McCain. THESE are the people Obama panders to.

  • E_Pluribus_Unum

    The depths of darkness, of depravity, of hate, of filth, in the hearts of the Koz kids (and frankly thousands of kindred spirits in all the Dem and left activist groups – it is depressing to think that these crap-weasels live and thrive in the land that our Founding Fathers lived, fought, died, to secure.

    Nobody who knows the full truth of what goes on in these Dem strongholds should ever vote ‘D’ again.

  • haystack
    • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

      in Nora Lam’s China Cry. Although not raised as a Christian, she was sent to Christian schools in Shanghai during the early 40′s. Fifteen years later, although a devoted member of the “New Society”, she faces torture and the firing squad when her past is discovered.

      Locked in the classroom where she formerly taught until she can produce a suitable confession, she finds that she cannot disavow the faith that she barely remembers. In her despair she draws a cross on the blackboard and prays for the first time in years, knowing that the God she had forgotten has not forgotten her.

  • blooch

    A fish with feet on it?

    Note: This is not an attempt to start an evolution threadjack. Just making a point about how derivative, unoriginal, confrontational and reactive most leftist symbols are. Even their original symbols ultimately become jokes and are forgotten. To be fair, the fault is not just in the symbols, but in the ideas behind them.

  • PockmarkONotorious

    The forces of the left are marshaling against John McCain. We know this. But which forces, I must ponder, are compelling them to attack his moment of solace in the hands of God?

    I had no idea Satan was actively campaigning against McSame. So much for the seperation of Church and State, am I right?

    Also, it raises an interesting question.

    Does this mean Satan believes Obamesiah is actually the Messiah?

    He really can fool anyone.

    • Mord

      you should last long around here.

      • rstreu

        and, by the way, very much (and rightly) looked down on by mods.

        If you’re gonna contribute, contribute… but let’s not get dragged into using the same ol’, tired Lefty/Paulbot language on this site.

        • Uma_Richie

          This obituary contains a story in which the agents of Communism could not bring themselves to harm a priest and then went on to worship with him.

          • aaronbg

            Now for PockMark….you really need to quit with the McSame crap.

  • Vladimir

    …made the cross with rocks on Omaha Beach?

    Was he stealing from Solzhenitsyn, too?

    Oh, yeah, Solzhenitsyn’s story didn’t have a battleship in the background.

    Sheesh.

    • swglaw

      You merit my first non-test RS 3.0 comment. Rarely have I seen such mendacity in a liberal commenter. Most are out and out trolls who simply post to be banned, for whatever crazed lunatic reason. Others are actually interested in trying for reasoned debate, lasting for varying periods, depending on the relative state of their BDS or the depth of their depravity in just knowing, knowing that all conservatives are merely knuckle dragging racist sexist bigot homophobes.

      Then there is you. Three comments in one plus day. Two of them mocking McCain. One defending the undefensible. And this one. So shockingly ignorant, so faux intellectually superior. A diarist at RS’s mere suggestion that some deranged moonbats might be impacted by other worldly forces is equal to Congress passing a law establishing religion. Completely and utterly absurd. Since you appear to have an interest in things religious, and are an apparent expert on such things, I will assume that you are familiar with that great work of literature, the Bible. I’m quite sure you are familiar with Proverbs 17:28. I humbly suggest that you take that verse to heart.

      • spainishirish

        years did: make the electorate realize

        a) how shallow, unqualified and empty the Democratic nominee is; and

        b) how many anti-American supporters (a) has.

        These people are textbook delusional. They keep trying failure and expecting different results.

  • Molten

    I can’t find anything online or in my library that mentions the practice of “sharing the symbol in the dirt” as a tradition passed down through the ages..

    Can someone point me in the right direction so I can confirm the claims of this post?

    Thank you.

    • aaronbg

      Christian Fish

      I don’t know any link for the cross, but since the Christian faith is centered on the Cross the leap from the fish symbol to the Cross is not that big of a leap.

      • birdmojo

        I’m familiar with this one as well.

        One guy would, in the middle of a conversation, just draw a small arc with his foot. Hey, we’re talking. People fidget. It happens. Plausibly deniable if someone pulls you in front of a magistrate. “What, it’s illegal to fidget?”

        The other guy sees the arc and makes an arc of his own over your arc and a fish is made. ?????.

        • Mord

          I don’t need any links to confirm that. Simply being in the vicinity of exploding artillary shells would convert most people. If you had ever been in a situation where you experienced near-death or unbearable pain, you wouldn’t question these “claims”.

  • Molten

    Thanks for the link Aaron…I agree that the leap from fish to cross is not that big..

    I can’t agree that your link somehow absolves McCain of possibly plagiarising Solzhenitsyn though..

    I see no true evidence here of that.

    He is a polititian after all, in the middle of a campaign…and he’s never really been very upfront about his faith in my opinion…

    I don’t think he was very upfront about it at Saddleback either…he was too political, and didn’t give us that part of himself that I felt he should have been giving in the context of the interview…He made a hell of a stump speech though..

    So, I guess no matter what the Kos crowd or the RedState crowd says about this topic…we’ll never really know for sure what Mccain did or did not do…

    I, for one…don’t really care…nothing surprises me anymore.

    • birdmojo

      Would that fact that Solzhenitsyn never wrote anything like that absolve McCain of plagiarism of Solzhenitsyn?

      Or is this another “fake but accurate” situation.

      • Mord

        Admit it. Even if he had beed caught on tape while he was imprisoned, you would find a different excuse to smear McCain.

        Yeah he is a politician, but so is your buddy BO. The difference is, McCain is an experienced and serious politician. BO is just an ambitious one.

        • aaronbg

          First, never expect anyone to prove a negative. There is an absence of evidence in the case of McCain being a plagiarist.

          Second, McCain is a southern baptist and has stated this on many occasions.

          Third, the point of the Saddleback debate was not for the candidates to show off their Christianity. It was for Christians to get answers from Politicians about what they believe is important.

          Lastly, “Reply to this” is your friend. You need to use it to respond to other comments, otherwise no one knows who the heck you are talking to.

          • Molten

            If in fact Solzhenitsyn never wrote anything like that…

            But he did.

          • blooch

            He’s a lightweight hit and run troll whose singular talent is one-handed typing. Any response to his comments makes him happy, almost ecstatic.

            He’s a stick figure who depends on us to flesh him out…not worth bothering Moe with.

          • aaronbg

            Solzhenitsyn’s experience does not negate McCain’s experience. They could have both had very similar experiences. How is this so hard to comprehend?

          • Uma_Richie

            nt

          • Molten

            to criticize McCain…his infidelity to his first wife, his flip-flopping on many issues, his hollow attacks on the patriotism of his opponent…the list goes on and on..

            There are many reasons to criticize Obama also…his flip-flopping on issues, his relationships with questionable characters…ect, ect..

            But there is never an excuse to smear someone if your not telling the truth about them..

            I don’t know if McCain cribbed from Solzhenitsyn any more than you do…and McCain isn’t talking…so I’m willing to let this one slide because there is no evidence either way besides the passage in Solzhenitsyn’s book..

            That’s not enough to “smear” McCain…it is however enough to raise a reasonable doubt..

          • Molten

            that they may have had similar experiences…

            Why is it hard so to comprehend the opposite?

          • aaronbg

            n/t

          • aaronbg

            Solzhenitsyn has a book that recounts his experience. John McCain has friends who were with him in Vietnam who confirm him telling the story while in captivity. I highly doubt that McCain was reading Solzhenitsyn’s book while in the Hanoi Hilton.

          • birdmojo

            Because TPM is reporting that he didn’t.

            I’ve got a copy of Gulag Archipelago on my shelf at home. If you could tell me where to look in the book, I’d be happy to look it up. (I’d need the chapter, I understand if you’ve got different page numbers than I do, what with all of our different versions and publishers and whatnot).

            Now it is the case that Chuck Colson attributes the story to Solzhenitsyn even though Solzhenitsyn never said something like that…

            But, hey. Why would you believe Colson anyway? I understand that he’s an ex-con.

          • swglaw

            n/t

  • hunter

    Let them smear away.
    Christians secretly communicating is as old as Christian persecution. Radical anti-Christian lefties smearing McCain on this only reminds Christians and people of conscience how radical and anti-Christian they really are.

    • Molten

      Saddleback should have been a moment for both candidates to reflect upon their faith in an honest way..

      McCain pandered to the crowd with little honest reflection…his whole “my friends” shtick was inappropriate in that setting..

      He accomplished what he set out to do though…which was to give Christians answers to what they believe is important..

      In that respect…he won…hands down.

      • aaronbg

        n/t

        • Molten

          But I am saying that neither you nor I know the absolute truth here..

          • aaronbg

            n/t

          • Molten

            I don’t know any more about his relationship with Christ than I did before his “reflections”…and his “my friends” shtick made him come off as insincere and pandering when he was being asked about his faith..

            Aaron is right…McCain gave the crowd what they wanted, which was issue oriented responses…

          • birdmojo

            Is that people get REALLY touchy about the whole Christianity thing.

            To the point where folks on the fence will be far more likely to sympathize with McCain on this one than turn against him.

            Seriously, if you’re going to poison the well on McCain, spend more time talking about the Constitution and Immigration and whatnot.

          • Molten

            You win…McCain would never lie about anything…ever.

            Thanks for the “debate”

  • David_Hinz

    in my post As The Cock Crew

    • CincoSolas_del_Bronx

      nt

      • blooch

        NT

        • blooch

          I mean, yes…he’s the checkers guy.

          • David_Hinz

            you are nothing but a troll — nothing more — nothing less.

            I invoke The Hinz Rule

  • Flagstaff

    did happen to John McCain, or he believes it happened to him.

    In the first instance, case closed.

    In the second instance, any good psychologist could give numerous reasons why anybody can believe he remembers something that didn’t actually happen.

    I have numerous memories of the Vietnam war and my own experience there. Since that was 40 years ago, I suspect that some of them are misplaced memories. And I was never under the stress that McCain endured.

    Our lefty friends just sound petty harping on this, especially given that there doesn’t seem to be any verified account of the subject of the story, only a verified (?) account of the first telling of the story (Charles Colson).

    Perhaps Colson heard the story from McCain in the first place, and then forgot the source himself, later inaccurately attributing it to Solzhenitsyn. That’s actually the simplest explanation for all the known events, unless one wants to believe McCain has made it up from the Colson quote.

    Whatever the case, I don’t believe McCain is lying, although he could be mistaken. There is a difference between the two states of being that our lefty friends have tried to blur since the Clinton Administration.

    • birdmojo

      If there aren’t a half dozen unanswered (serious) posts to posts of yours in the thread in which you complain about the “debate”.

      For future reference.

  • streetwise

    No one.

    • furious

      but he did

      …not, at least, according to Solzhenitsyn’s biographer.

      Gulag Archipelago is a long book, but I’ll what while you look.

      I hear you frequent playgrounds offering candy to children, Molten. Prove that you never have, and I won’t doubt you.

      See how easy (and sleazy and transparent) that is?

  • gamecock

    There is a great chapter in C.S. Lewis’ “Mere Christianity” teaching us that as we act like Christ, much as children act like adults, the acting makes them become what they imitate.

    great column Caleb

  • nobob

    the bible says when the opposition troops force you to carry thier pack, go the extra mile

    • Neil_Stevens

      Now be a good little retard and go give money to your little wuss of a candidate. You know, the one who spit in your face over FISA?