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  • TexasTom

    I was livid at the treatment of the flags and callous disregard for proper flag disposal….then….I remember that the flag that we all respect only has 50 stars on it. Don’t those look like the 59 varieties (57+2 not visited)? That would be the Obamanation flag, not Old Glory. Quite a similarity.

  • simpson316

    from reason.tv

  • aaronbg

    ….I was thinking of writing this in a diary but this open thread will do.

    I want to formally apologize for my behavior with some of the new people who have shown up in the past week or so. I may have let my zeal go unchecked and pounced when not appropriate. I do not know if any of the posters that I confronted still remain on the site or not or whether they were indeed trolls. My gut tells me I did the right thing but I am merely a citizen sentry of this site and have no authority beyond that of any other poster. I promise to try to tone it down so as not to dissuade the seekers of truth who come to this site. I sincerely hope that I have not brought dishonor to the site. And to Moe, I apologize for stepping on your authority.

    Thank you all for a great site that has taught me so much in my 7 months as a member.

  • LatteLibertarian

    How exactly did the Dems go from having no flags at all to having so many flags in garbage bags? Everybody knows that for anyone other than a Republican to touch a flag is a paradox of nature, an impossibility equivalent to perpetual motion or time travel.

    This means that the Dems must have paid forced Republicans to bring in these flags, then bin them. Which leads one to ask: how did a bunch of limp-wristed, gun-hating liberals force red-blooded, heterosexual conservatives to perpetrate such a dirty deed?

    • Hooah_Mac

      Just asking.

      • David_Hinz

        n/t

        • Moe_Lane

          When I tell dirty little racialists – and apparently gay-baiters – that they need to explain why they’re tracking mud on other people’s sites, I expect them to do that.

          Now shoo. And consider this: there are considerably less sad sexual fetishes out there than the one that you’re trying to indulge in here.

          • DriftersLuck

            And, TexasTom, you’ll find some of other American flags in the trash after the Republican Convention. It’s just the behavior of the unconscious mind.

            Drifters

  • simpson316

    Does this mean he’s the Veep?

    Rollcall may have scooped this one

    According to sources with strong Michigan ties, the Secret Service has conducted a security sweep of the home of Romney?s sister. Romney was raised in Michigan, where his father served as governor.

    However, one campaign operative familiar with the working of a presidential-level campaign cautioned that a sweep of such a location could have been conducted in advance of Romney appearing as a surrogate ? not the vice presidential nominee ? at an upcoming McCain campaign stop in Michigan.

    • Richard_CT

      Hell, my twelve year-old niece could have done this with Photoshop.

      RedState, is this really the best that you can do?

  • Darin_H

    Single-serving patriotism.

    • Richard_CT

      Hell, my twelve year-old niece could have done this with Photoshop.

      RedState, is this really the best that you can do?

      • Vegas_Rick

        Get over yourself and lighten up a bit. :)

        • Darin_H

          Heh

          • aaronbg

            just wanted to let you know….;^)

          • simpson316

            That’s the problem you get when you are reading multiple articles at the same time.

          • aaronbg

            …I was really intrigued by Social Security showing up at Romney’s sister’s house…;^)

          • Richard_CT

            Are you sure you’re a Republican?

          • Richard_CT

            Are you sure you’re a Republican?

          • TexasTom

            The Dems are unconscious?

          • Vegas_Rick

            Before you ask any more rediculous ones.

          • TexasTom

            Just another country?

          • simpson316

            An alternate clue

            This may be some misdirection by the McCain campaign to make sure that they edge into coverage of the coronation tonight.

          • TexasTom

            Give this a whirl, sonny:
            I am a troll and this is the best I can do without government help.

          • aaronbg

            maybe even a werewolf…

          • Richard_CT

            But you already knew that.

            And BTW, it’s “ridiculous,” not “rediculous.”

            Now it’s my turn to ask a question: what are you doing to ensure a GOP victory in November?

          • TexasTom

            All my doubts and fears about the suitability of libtards being allowed to gather with the stout defenders of liberty and resister of tyranny……

            have been confirmed.

            Latte, you are an idiot and a sham (dust ruffle?).

            Have a nice day.

          • Richard_CT

            Changed my ISP yesterday and my username today.

            Any other slurs you want to throw my way?

          • Tim_Schieferecke

            The truth is what it is. Republicans don’t do that.

          • Tim_Schieferecke

            Most appropriate Aaron.

  • ekevlar11

    I just don’t think we should get righteously indignant at their treatment of the flag when more than half of them probably don’t know the proper destruction methods of the American flag. And the other half are simply unconscious of what they were carrying.

    So, they get zapped by Absentee for not showing the flag and get zapped again for improperly disposing. It’s a no-win.

    And…if this "http://partyblock.stores.yahoo.net/amflagnap.href">
    napkin flag     was handed out at a 4th of July picnic…what would you do with it when finished using it?

    I have no doubt that at the Republican convention similar things will happen that show “unintentional” disrespect for the American flag.

    • aaronbg

      …I said that because you have been here so long without commenting much. So in essence I was defending you as not being a troll and I tried to do it with humor. And in response you say I am using slurs…what a pity.

      • Vegas_Rick

        and here I thought it was a comment on how well the Libs clean up after themselves. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

        As for what I’m doing to ensure Senator John McCain beats the crap out of the Obamassiah?

        None ya

        • aaronbg

          n/t

          • Next93

            N/T

          • Richard_CT

            but how do you know how long I’ve been here? I only began posting as Richard_CT today…

            BTW, I think I misunderstood your “moby” reference. I was thinking of Moby, the “musician” (who I hate.)

            Sorry for jumping on you… but as you can see, I’m getting jumped on from multiple sides already today. Whatever happened to unity?

          • Richard_CT

            but how do you know how long I’ve been here? I only began posting as Richard_CT today…

            BTW, I think I misunderstood your “moby” reference. I was thinking of Moby, the “musician” (who I hate.)

            Sorry for jumping on you… but as you can see, I’m getting jumped on from multiple sides already today. Whatever happened to unity?

          • Vegas_Rick

            If you’re referring to this thread, this is what happened to unity:

            “Hell, my twelve year-old niece could have done this with Photoshop.

            RedState, is this really the best that you can do?”

            This type of attitude will win you few friends. :)

          • aaronbg

            I know how long you have been here because your profile doesn’t change when you change your username.

            As far as the overall thread goes:

            People are jumping on you because you inferred that Absentee photshopped the flags in the trash. Absentee is well respected and provides outstanding articles. This week he is at the DNC covering it for RS. You stepped in a pile of crap on your own when you leveled charges against a respected contributor and deservedly you were derided for that comment. The DNC disrespected the flag of our nation, first by actively avoiding it, then by disposing of it improperly. So get on board the unity train and show your angst with the Dem party. Or be a moby. Your choice.

  • HerbC

    The question remains, why did it take so long
    for the DNC to even display the flag? The DNC believes that the flag is nothing more than a party favor to be displayed at the most opportune times. They might as well have been
    passing out Mardi Gras beads at the same time.

    • aaronbg

      RNC Stage

      • simpson316

        He advocated showing up on conservative sites and being a parody of what they thought conservatives were.

        • rstreu

          They could use them and then not throw them away. See? Win-win.

          I have several small flags from various things (napkins not included — let’s not get silly). I’ve either kept them, or given them away.

          I believe, unlike certain Dems, that it’s more than a “piece of cloth.” I give it respect, even in my own home — I would sure-as-hell treat it with respect out in the open.

          • PO

            Sure, Republicans don’t have messiah problems. Just look at heritage.org … oh, well, never mind.

            Bob Barr 2008

          • Tim_Schieferecke

            I think most of his economic advisors have an affinity for hammers and sickles.

          • Richard_CT

            I didn’t accuse absentee of photoshopping, I merely pointed out that my 12 year-old niece could have created those pictures with photoshop. I don’t accept that the DNC disrespected the flag… it’s been on display at the convention, and I don’t think that you can hold the DNC responsible for it ending up in the trash. Can absentee guarantee that the flag wasn’t put in those bags by cleaners? Does leaving the flag behind at a convention also count as “unpatriotic?”

            I hope that absentee will find similar pictures at the GOP convention. But I doubt that he or she will even bother to look for them.

            Goodbye.

          • Tim_Schieferecke

            That’s how it should look.

          • Tim_Schieferecke

            And yes, the cleaners probably did pick up a lot of them. It’s part of their job to pick up the things people cast down and walk on before they have a chance to clean up. Is it any better to throw the flag down like an empty popcorn tub or used syringe then to put it in the trash? Not in my estimation.

          • ekevlar11

            Ok, I’ll definitely give you that one. Seems like they would want to collect some of the memorabilia.

            “See kids, this is the flag I wove as Obama secured the nomination. I even brought it with me to the voting booth. Too bad he lost.”

          • JSobieski

            run a national healthcare system and otherwise enhance the functioning of a multi-trillion dollar economy can’t follow basic rules about disposal of the flag.

            A picture that says a thousand words.

          • JSobieski

            run a national healthcare system and otherwise enhance the functioning of a multi-trillion dollar economy can’t follow basic rules about disposal of the flag.

            A picture that says a thousand words.

          • Moe_Lane

            Which we will get into after I finish checking out your account. Post again before I’m done and said checking out will be abruptly truncated.

          • aaronbg

            you have a problem with words I think.

            I didn’t accuse absentee of photoshopping

            Strike one…Didn’t say you accused…said you inferred.

            Does leaving the flag behind at a convention also count as “unpatriotic?”

            Stike two…didn’t say “unpatriotic” I said disrespectful

            I hope that absentee will find similar pictures at the GOP convention. But I doubt that he or she will even bother to look for them.

            Strike three….yooouuuuuurrrr out!!!

            Yeah maybe you should just go. My Bad.

          • TexasTom

            I too miss read your intentions. My 60 year old hippie brother could, at best, take out the trash. He doesn’t know what PhotoShop is.

            “We fight for love of freedom and justice, a love that is invincible.
            Keep that faith. Keep your courage.
            Stick together. Stay strong.
            Do not yield. Do not flinch.
            Stand up. Stand up … and fight.
            We’re Americans.
            We’re Americans, and we’ll never surrender.
            They will.”

            JSM 2004

  • Maggie_in_Indiana

    then here’s more for you.What about the 70,000 + flags that’s going to be waving tonight. Where are they going to end up?

    • Moe_Lane

      Lucky you: you get to advance to the stage where you apologize for libeling absentee by insinuating that he photoshopped those photos.

      Next post, and no “Sorry if you were offended.” Straight-up apology, with a promise not to do it again here.

  • redgal

    {Bye, reagonite! – Moe Lane}

    • aaronbg

      oh and I love that cute little “our” you throw in there…funny.

      • kyle8

        I guess, )YAWN(

  • apfire

    REDSTATE, HUMM, IT MUST STAND FOR COMMUNIST REPUBLICANS. FUCK ALL REPUBLICANS, YOUR A BUNCH OF OIL LOVING, SCUM SUCKING BASTARDS, EAT SHIT AND DIE ALL YOU BUSH LOVING ASSHOLES, DEATH TO ALL REPUBLICANS, SCREW YOU ALL

    • kyle8

      You should be proud of yourself

      • aaronbg

        n/t

        • BrianH

          big word at school?

          Delightful post.

          • kyle8

            nt

          • Vegas_Rick

            It’s always good when the nutroots remind us of the quality of our opposition!

          • BrianH

            And he wastes his first post on THIS?!

            I suppose this is what passes for reasoned discourse on the left.

          • stang

            Have you considered anger management classes? It must suck to be you.

            ?Hatred is like fire; it makes even light rubbish deadly.?

            George Eliot

          • Achance

            That bit of brilliance is what a government school education gets you these days.

          • Achance

            It’s pretty much archetypal.

          • civil_truth

            His rant is straight from “Wolf in the Fold”.

          • tcgeol

            nt

          • justfortoday

            Do you really think that fully half the country who have their homes here, raise their children here, work here and are a part of their communities really hate this country? You really think that just because people disagree with you that they hate their country? You really think that anyone who doesn’t wear their patriotism on their shirtsleeve is a traitor?
            I can only think of two reasons conservatives would continue to bring up such ridiculous notions: either they’re incomprehensibly stupid or they really enjoy talking high school-level smack.

          • Moe_Lane

            NT

          • Vegas_Rick

            along with the nonsensical rant. :-)

          • bs

            Note the lack of intellect, the atomic-sized vocabulary, and the inability to use the shift key on its keyboard. We often find species like this at the primate house at the local zoo, or under a microscope in Bio 101. A perfect example of a subhuman.

          • itrytobenice

            libruls uzing big wordz

          • wt259

            just, wow……
            Your parents must be so proud, after spending all that money to send you to the University of Chicago,and then grad school.

          • nobob

            Help me with proper flag disposal. What are the rules? I have more flags than I can use, and some are made in China! Help.

          • PMNRaider

            … for Social Security to check out everyone’s house now before paying benefits. It’s a new service offered by Obamanation – One nation under the Bus, with puberty and just us, not all, at the trough

          • PMNRaider

            The little puppy went wee wee all over his widdle self from all the negative attention. His spill chicker was unable to address syntax and punctuation errors, and mom cut off his computer just before ordering him to go out and get a job tomorrow, or the free rent gig ends on his 30th birthday. And she MEANS IT this time!

  • Abort_all_Republicans

    Story truly debunked..

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/214283.php

    According to a article just out from Huffington Post, the story about flags from the Democratic National Convention being thrown away is simply false. The story was jumped on and apparently authored by the McCain campaign. But the real tell is down in the Huffpo piece where it traces the story to none other than Fox News’ Carl Cameron.

    Longtime readers of TPM will remember that back in October 2004 this site caught Cameron publishing a series of fabricated quotes attributed to John Kerry on the front page of the Fox News website.

    After I placed a series of calls to Fox News inquiring about the Kerry story, the story was eventually pulled, and Fox was forced to issue an apology and retract the fabricated story. Fox spokesman Paul Schur told TPM: “Carl [Cameron] made a stupid mistake which he regrets. And he has been reprimanded for his lapse in judgment. It was a poor attempt at humor.”

    Why anybody would believe anything this joker says is difficult to fathom. But he’s good enough for McCain.

    • Moe_Lane

      …is just going around all over the place, isn’t it?

      Although I wonder if some of these folks are holding out for somebody getting arrested. It’d fit their worldview, particularly the part that’s in a perpetual state of disappointment.