UPDATE: See here. Left (including you TotalFarkTards) behaving badly.
US commandos freed hero Capt. Richard Phillips today and killed most of the pirates holding him hostage in a dramatic end to the four-day high seas standoff that riveted the world.
CNN reported Phillips helped divert the pirates by jumping into the ocean, giving waiting Navy Seals an opening to wipe out the ragtag pirates who had been holding the world’s most powerful Navy at bay on the Indian Ocean.
Three of the four Somali pirates were killed, and the fourth was taken into custody, according to initial reports.
The resourceful Phillips was said to be uninjured and safely aboard the destroyer USS Bainbridge.
(h/t) Tammy Bruce & Moe Lane.
Playing pansy politics with pirates put the Captain’s life at increased risk. His first escape attempt was thwarted by the thugs as Phillips remained adrift from the aid and cover of the US Navy, which sat restrained by an administration too cowardly to let slip the dogs of war. Each day the tension and humiliation of a nation grew. The emboldened pirates fired upon our men of action, who thus restrained could not yet act in kind. The terrorists’ defiant lack of fear inspired their fellows to target other American vessels. All while the community organizer in chief flipped through his conflict resolution handbook.
But here, at long last, the captive captain is free. He leapt clear and our faithful Navy, apparently at last free to take the safety off, rid the world of three contemptible degenerates and have the fourth in custody to question. So the bold leap into the sea frees the President of the burden to act.
In the end, Captain Phillips wasn’t saved by the President, but by his own courageous plunge and the deadly professionalism of our men with guns. The President, you see, was saved by the Captain.
UPDATE: Blackfive with details (h/t SteveLa) … click read more for blockquote:
I just finished listening to the press conference w/ ADM Gortney about the rescue of Captain Phillips. At the time it happened the USS Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat to calmer waters as the sea state was deteriorating. One of the pirates was on board the Bainbridge as the talks about obtaining Phillip’s release continued. The lifeboat was approx. 25 m behind the Bainbridge when snipers on the fantail observed one of the pirates in the pilot house of the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 at the back of a tied up Phillips and the other two pirates on board were visible (at least shoulders and heads). The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire. All three bad guys were taken out and then a rigid inflatable boat went to the lifeboat to retrieve Phillips.
Which reminds me of this comment earlier from Vegas Rick:
His sissiness is asked repeatedly for authorization to take out the pirates. The situation can be ended at any time using SEAL snipers.The snipers are WITHIN 20 TO 30 YARDS of the terrorists.
The One says we can only shoot them if the captain’s life is imminent dangers.
The lifeboat is nearing Somali waters and the weather is turning to s&%@.
The Captain of the Bainbridge looks around his bridge and says, “I think the captain’s life is imminent danger.” “Do the rest of you t6hink the captain’s life is imminent danger?”
Unanimous answers to the affirmative.
The Captain contacts the SEAL team leader. “I have determined that the hostage’s life is imminent danger. You have authority to use deadly force.”
“Roger.”
Bang, bang, bang.
You heard it here first.
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Awesome. And despite chest-thumping claims by Kossak Obamabots about the uber awesomeness of the One saving the day, this:
This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.
and this:
He did affirm the military’s authorization to use force if the captain’s life was in danger, but they already would have had that authorization as part of their standard rules of engagement. If there are innocents about to be slaughtered the same reasoning that authorizes self defense also covers an imminent execution unless the ROE specifically forbid it.The AP is making it sound like there was an active rescue ordered by the President. It was not, there was an imminent threat and the local commander gave the order to fire. Good on Obama for ensuring their authorization was clear, but let’s also be clear that he did not authorize or order an active rescue attempt.
Sorta exactly like I was saying here. Read Uncle Jimbo’s whole report. Illuminating.

Thank God the commander on the scene was in charge,
Flagstaff Sunday, April 12th at 2:52PM EDT (link)and that he didn’t have to wait for the OK from the clueless White House.
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Kowalski: My wife laid out this escape scenario two days ago.
Flagstaff Sunday, April 12th at 2:55PM EDT (link)Your title is perfect.
Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!
amen to that
Caleb Howe Sunday, April 12th at 3:08PM EDT (link)- nt
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so true Flag, he either didn't have to wait, or decided
Doc Holliday Sunday, April 12th at 8:02PM EDT (link)not to wait. This reminds me of some of the stuff in “The Path to 9/11″ when we had a chance to get Bin laden and the POTUS stopped our men from doing their job.
I think we all should accept that Obama did the minimal which considering who he is, is a good thing. I think the meme should be to ingore Obama and focus on the heroes. Obama will likely get a slight poll bump, that is fine.
This is a great outcome and many true American heroes showed their grit. I also agree with Caleb, it was the Captain who saved the President.
Molon Labe!
I just heard more spin to the effect
Flagstaff Sunday, April 12th at 9:52PM EDT (link)that “Obama was decisive, he acted like a President.” He was even compared to Reagan’s decisiveness in the face of danger to US citizens in Grenada.
The fact appears to be that Obama said “yes” on Friday and “yes” again on Saturday and kept out of it after that, other than monitoring the situation. His order of “fire only if the Captain’s life is in imminent danger” passes the sound bite test (after all, when is a hostage’s life NOT in imminent danger?), and it would have protected him in the event of a disaster.
Given all that, he made the right decisions, and he made them at the right time–EARLY. But the real heroes are indeed the men in the water, and he’d do well to try to keep himself out of their limelight, if it appears. And keep Joe Biden’s tongue on a VERY short leash.
Contrary to some opinions, I think this might become very good for Obama, and he might deserve it, even though his contribution amounted to just staying out of the way and letting the experts do their jobs. Kennedy learned from his visit with Kruschev; Obama can learn from this. I despise the man, but in terms of foreign military affairs, we have to give him credit if he does well at all. That makes later criticism more credible.
Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!
Obama was not "saved" by this, a captain was, and Obama did not prevent the saving
Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, April 12th at 8:52PM EDT (link)Saving Obama from all his transgressions would prove impossible even for seals, rangers and Stallone.
But Obama did us proud in this incident. admit it
Now, the bigger test is whether he will do what Bush should have done a year ago
destroy the Somalian harbors on the sea
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
the captain saved him
Doc Holliday Sunday, April 12th at 9:11PM EDT (link)by making a REAL decision, he was the one who decided enough is enough. He saved Obama from his indecision and many worse possible outcomes. Of course the SEALs just did their job, which is always heroic and amazing.
Molon Labe!
I think the Captain was sending a signal to the onlooking USN by making obviously futile attempts to escape at every chance
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, April 13th at 8:41AM EDT (link)thus making it easier for the seals to plan a successful rescue, even if it took 5 days.
I use the 5 days phrase sarcastically due to the perennial curmudgeons here that wouldn’t have been happy with any rescue not achieved before they could write about it!
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
Hear, hear, caleb! nt
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 2:56PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
That Title Pretty Much Sums It Up n/t
Swamp_Yankee Sunday, April 12th at 3:03PM EDT (link)n/t
Not Dead Yet!
Thank God for the SEALS also
izoneguy Sunday, April 12th at 3:04PM EDT (link)“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Admiral Gurnon (MA Maritime Academy) makes more sense than
Flagstaff Sunday, April 12th at 3:06PM EDT (link)anything coming out of the administration.
Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!
"I heard the news on RedState!"
Flagstaff Sunday, April 12th at 3:08PM EDT (link)If we were a news site, it’s a good slogan. And it was true for me today.
Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!
Now it's time
greiner Sunday, April 12th at 3:16PM EDT (link)to give the pirates aon land and sea a taste of F-15 fire power. But I don’t think we will.
“I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm’s way.”
John Paul Jones (letter to M. Le Ray de Chaumont,16 Nov.1778)
Did You Hear CNN Earlier
rcov092 Sunday, April 12th at 5:33PM EDT (link)ask: “what did the Navy learn when they approached the lifeboat and the pirates shot at them?” Geniuses.
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Just hope everyone is prepared for
robmikpet Sunday, April 12th at 3:17PM EDT (link)this to be spun as brilliant and decisive leadership (I heard Obama actually lead the Seals in the operation. Well has he been on TV the last two days?) no matter what the real story is.
By the time the MSM is done it will be the D-day invasion or the 101st Airborne’s defense of Bastogne,
If Obama did something right than fine, but I would like the truth on what really happened.
Good News! good news indeed and the terrorists are DEAD too ...nice!..nt
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 3:21PM EDT (link)..
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Hallelujah!
deweyfromdetroit Sunday, April 12th at 3:22PM EDT (link)Apparently the poll results finally arrived at the White House. In addition to tallying up the votes on which church BHO should grace with his butt, poll results clearly indicated that the rest of country would be ok with something more than harsh words for the pirates. Save the hard stare and stern words for the little pot-bellied pig in NoKo. Blow the scum sucking pirates from here to Tripoli and back.
God bless the Navy Seals.
Also blogging as
DeweyfromDetroit
The Captain is a Hero
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 3:26PM EDT (link)So are the SEALS.
Now let’s take care of this problem once and for all. Screw the excuses for WHY they turned to piracy. Make it too risky for them to continue. NO ONE touches a U.S. citizen abroad. Period, End of Discussion.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
The President sets rules of engagement.
eander99 Sunday, April 12th at 3:29PM EDT (link)And he also deploys the Navy, including SEALS. He is the commander in chief. We can’t have it both ways.
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Who is this WE you speak of eander99....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 3:35PM EDT (link)This idiot in chief DID NOTHING the BEST DAMN MILITARY IN THE WORLD is the receipiant of this rescue….PERIOD!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
If it had failed, Obama would be blamed...
eander99 Sunday, April 12th at 3:39PM EDT (link)You know that. Just like Carter was blamed for a failed rescue in Iran. It works both ways.
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No, not unless the ROE were so restrictive
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 3:45PM EDT (link)that the mission was unrealistic, something Democrats have been known to do if you’ll recall another incident in Somalia.
He certainly would have been blamed if nothing had been done, and rightfully so.
In Vino Veritas
Bullcrap! The MAN jumped and saved himself....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 3:50PM EDT (link)The idiot in chief DID NOTHING! He will have his moments this is NOT one of them.
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
So who ordered the Navy there?
eander99 Sunday, April 12th at 3:54PM EDT (link)Who deployed the SEALS? How do you know the White House didn’t tell them to take shots if they had a chance!
You don’t know, so don’t destroy our credibility!
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Um, possibly because of the war in Iraq
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 4:06PM EDT (link)and known pirate activity, both occurring before Obama took office. Pretty convenient this time for Obama.
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
again I question your use of WE and OUR....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:10PM EDT (link)I don’t think with your minimal participation at this point you have proven you are apart of WE and do NOT tell me about destroying OUR credibility I have some you at this point have NONE!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
you makin' fun of his we we?
JLenardDetroit Sunday, April 12th at 4:23PM EDT (link)NOTE TO SELF: Jaded = “Tough Crowd” today
best I avoid any further joking in these regards … lol
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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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You know JLenard...
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:31PM EDT (link)When a wussy such as the One is given an credence WHEN it is apparent to all that it was the Captain and the our fine military that created the escape just burns me up.
I am listening to the oldstream media tools on FOX now and they have more concern for why we dropped those terrorists dead then the heroics of the Captain which is all I need to know about the idiot in chief and his media supporters on this issue than anything the WH or the media or TOOLS coming on over could ever say.
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
yep, MSM has been bolstering up the Chicken-In-Chief since the start....
JLenardDetroit Sunday, April 12th at 4:42PM EDT (link)makes me ill…. as I’ve been saying the whole way…. The MSM wants us to feel so wonderful, safe, “Proud,” that the Obam-abominable one was “getting regular updates” ….. The big O did the big ZERO in this entire thing… If starting tomorrow there aren’t Cruise Missiles landing in Somalia hitting Pirate enclaves (this has been going on how long now? How many ransoms paid? We are to think we don’t know where some of these fools are based?!?!) then we know the Surrender First doctrine is still in full effect - which it is! The ObamaBinBiden next step will be an African tour so he can Apologize for America there and plead with the Pirates to send some Moderate-Pirates to have discussions with for the terms of America’s surrender!
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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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With a total of one post 5 1/2 months ago...
Diogenes314 Sunday, April 12th at 4:24PM EDT (link)Before this thread, I wouldn’t rate his cfredibility all that high.
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Let’s all compromise-everyone should just agree with me.
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Hey EPU!...a new word...do you have 'Fredibility'?
$peciallist Sunday, April 12th at 4:27PM EDT (link)LOL
they had a dress rehearsal to practice too
mom2oneson Sunday, April 12th at 4:04PM EDT (link)this captain saved himself.. we were having a therapy session with the bag guy while he did it.
Look at this
eander99 Sunday, April 12th at 4:09PM EDT (link)http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/04/obama-approved.html
I am a moby troll and an active member of the Clark County Democratic Party. My faith in my arguments is so poor, that I had to resort to lying about who I am in order to try to make my points. That is why I got banned.
NO look at this..
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:17PM EDT (link)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7995543.stm
“Earlier talks failed when US officials insisted on the pirates’ arrest, the New York Times newspaper says”
What this tels you is that The idiot in cheif and his minions were treating this like a LAW ENFORCEMENT measure….the CAPTAIN SAVED HIMSELF! and Clinton III carries on….ask the 3000K dead on 9-11 how that LAW ENNFORCEMNT CRAP WITH TERRORISTS WORK, oh yeah you can’t they are dead!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
You're kidding, right?
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 4:27PM EDT (link)You think Stephanopoulos to have credibility here?
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
I don't care that Obama gave the OK...easiest decision of the Day...
$peciallist Sunday, April 12th at 4:33PM EDT (link)I love the fact that the Capt was taking a p….and they sniped the pirates..lol
when the fourth Somali pirate was on the Bainbridge ship, Phillips moved to side of the lifeboat to relieve himself.
$peciallist Sunday, April 12th at 4:31PM EDT (link)At that point, U.S. special forces saw their opportunity and took other three pirates out.
AWESOME!!
So.... you want to talk about ABC News and credibility? LOL
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 5:02PM EDT (link)At least you didn’t post a link to MSNBC; I’ll give you that.
If you listened to the WHOLE news conference, you’d have heard this:
“Is it true that the President ordered the rescue?”
“Well, umm, yes the orders came from the top.”
“But was the President directly involved? Was he on the phone with the commander of the The Bainbridge, assessing the situation?”
“No.”
“Just to clarify, isn’t it true that the orders were actually standing orders to go in if it appeared that Captain Phillips’ life was in imminent danger?”
“Yes.”
So — credit where it’s due. Bambi decided that since he can’t lead, he’d get out of the way.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Dunno if he/she saw that, Jaded
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 5:11PM EDT (link)Neil fired his own shot at that terrorist… er… troll a half hour ago. Being a newbie myself I’m not sure if that blocks them from the site altogether or just keeps them from posting.
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
I'm sorry, not Jaded. You're JustLeaveMeAlone
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 5:12PM EDT (link)got a little tangled up in the thread. My bad.
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Amen!
Freedomlover Sunday, April 12th at 4:23PM EDT (link)JadedByPolitics,
You’re absolutely right. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Oh, give me a break
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 3:43PM EDT (link)Today’s actions happened DESPITE that clueless idiot in the White House, not because of him.
Anyone who has ever worked for an incompetent boss knows that sometimes the rank-and-file has to find ways to work AROUND him, not through him.
That’s what happened today.
Besides, The One was busy polling what church to go to to make the best impression, setting up dog-walking schedules,and eating pizza. And instructing aides to have various press releases ready so he can take credit, of course.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
You can't have it both ways.
eander99 Sunday, April 12th at 3:49PM EDT (link)I for one, refuse to be a hypocrite. The person at the top gets blame and credit. You dont know what actions were going on behind the scenes, and either do I.
This is a day for celebrating, not for political finger pointing.
I am a moby troll and an active member of the Clark County Democratic Party. My faith in my arguments is so poor, that I had to resort to lying about who I am in order to try to make my points. That is why I got banned.
No, every day is a day for political finger pointing
bs Sunday, April 12th at 4:09PM EDT (link)We are at war against the Socialist-in-Chief. I, for one, will take any opportunity possible to cut his legs out from under him. I could care less about the circumstances.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
Bull crap
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 4:10PM EDT (link)It’s not hypocritical to point out the guy did NOTHING for several days, except talk to the bad guys (his favorite MO), then not give him credit when the CAPTAIN HIMSELF acts to save himself.
Even if Obama did order action — finally — it was only because of the outrage over the failure to act the first time the Captain took action to save himself.
Two groups were in charge from day one of this crisis — the pirates and the Captain. Obama wanted to talk housing.
It’s not finger pointing to do an after-action report about what went wrong.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
shaking my head
wbrown Sunday, April 12th at 4:19PM EDT (link)You guys will say anything, spin any story any way that you can, to reassure yourselves that Obama is a bad president. You will gleefully convince yourself, encouraged by your echo chamber, that the sky is green, if you could somehow figure out how to blame it on Obama.
Sorry, bub. He makes it so easy for us.
bs Sunday, April 12th at 4:21PM EDT (link)I’m glad it bothers you, though. We’ll make sure we keep it up.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
this is what
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 4:23PM EDT (link)you waste your first post on? Seriously????
the fact that Obama has proven himself the Wimp in Chief and the one campaign promise he is keeping is to negotiate with terrorists, is evidence enough of a bad presidency.
Mess with America, you die. It’s a very simple approach.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
shaking my head....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:24PM EDT (link)You tools will say anything, spin any story any way that you an, to reassure yourselves that Bush is a bad president. You will gleefully convince yourself encouraged by your EHCO CHAMBER, that the sky is green, if you could somehow figure out how to blame it on BUSH!
Funny how that works isn’t it? I MOCK YOU and your braindead minions because it is so easy to do. NOW move along little tool and scamper back to your hellhole you know your LIFE!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
We learned well from the left during eight years of GWB.
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 4:30PM EDT (link)I intend to be just as respectful of your so-called President as the left was of President Bush.
Now run along back to your homework or video game.
In Vino Veritas
You might like this, A.
Justin_Case Sunday, April 12th at 6:42PM EDT (link)This is a portion of an email my wife received from a friend:
“I hear so many people cutting down our new presidential administration/the budget etc. I just want people to remember we are still at war and they need to stand by our President and our country and quit running their mouth and publicly dishonoring all that we stand for. Unity!!!!”
I swear this is not a fabrication.
Are you the Duty Moby At the Kos Alert Center?
smagar Sunday, April 12th at 4:52PM EDT (link)If so, how’s Mommy’s basement?
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
Good ne smager OBTW CNN just asked if us killing them will escalate violence...
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:57PM EDT (link)shaking my head….this is so very, very SICK!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Jaded, People like Capt. Phillips are a good reminder that we still have some "men with chests"
AKSteveB Sunday, April 12th at 5:24PM EDT (link)as C.S. Lewis would have said. Hopefully the Obama’s of the world come and go. Congratulations SEALS.
Hell is other people - Sartre
One can hope.
Justin_Case Sunday, April 12th at 7:19PM EDT (link)It’s amazing the impunity with which these jokers operate and then have “journalists” express concern that they’ll get mad at us.
Oh RATS, Jaded!
David Hinz Sunday, April 12th at 8:15PM EDT (link)That was CNN? The TV is in the other room and heard it and accused @JulieBanderas of saying that!
I should have known better!
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Yeah David but is was also NBC with the leftist...
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 8:22PM EDT (link)questions making it seem like it was so horrible that these terrorists died….I cannot wait until they are all long gone and they are in the history books!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Spin Any Story?
Freedomlover Sunday, April 12th at 7:24PM EDT (link)wbrown, your guys spin stories every day. The “One” can’t say or do anything that is not spun to point out how marvelous and smart he is.
I won't be a hypocrite either
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 4:22PM EDT (link)and give credit to the Marxist-in-Chief.
As for “who sent in the Navy”, what choice did he have? He didn’t dare NOT do that.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Oh, and to make it official.. blam. (nt)
Neil Stevens Sunday, April 12th at 4:33PM EDT (link)Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
Very nice touch on the sig line update. 5 [nt]
bs Sunday, April 12th at 5:54PM EDT (link)Decorum is fo’ suckas
I Guess You Don't Like To Play With Your Food (nt)
IJB Sunday, April 12th at 7:15PM EDT (link)Did everyone see the next cover of Newsweek?
robmikpet Sunday, April 12th at 9:12PM EDT (link)Piciture of Obama wearing blue with what looks like a red cape picking the captain off the pirate ship. Then it looks like some type of beam weapon discharges from his eyes killing the three hostages.
And then inside picutes of him in a robe walking on the water giving the captian to the sailors on the destroyer. Wow what a President.
killing the three pirates I mean, duh!!
robmikpet Sunday, April 12th at 9:15PM EDT (link)n/t
True Heroes
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 3:39PM EDT (link)don’t take credit or assume what they do is unusual. They just presume that everyone would act the way they do because it is the right thing to do.
The Maersk CEO just conveyed Captain Phillips thanks to the Navy Seals. Captain Phillips is a true hero.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
At least this happened now before the defense cuts
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 3:43PM EDT (link)take place. If a similar situation happens after that, would we even be able to have ships in the Indian ocean? It’s a good thing for Phillips that this is still basically GWB’s military, at least as far as strength and resources are concerned.
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Actually, it's Sec. Rumsfeld's...
rbdwiggins Sunday, April 12th at 4:17PM EDT (link)and it was accomplished at great personal sacrifice.
But, President Bush had the foresight to trust Cheney’s experience, judgment and recommendation.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
We will still have ships in the Indian Ocean even after budget cuts
David Hinz Sunday, April 12th at 8:18PM EDT (link)its just that they won’t be quite as fast — although the new three masted schooner might be able to catch a lifeboat out of gas…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
If the wind's right. nt
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 9:06PM EDT (link)“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
What will they do with the Leftover ransom?
$peciallist Sunday, April 12th at 3:43PM EDT (link)Folks, don't overdo it here. The MSM is just ITCHING...
smagar Sunday, April 12th at 3:51PM EDT (link)to cast us as overreaching in our critcisms here.
They’re also itching to say nice things about Obama.
Be sure that the president really IS to blame before we criticize him here.
Our credibility is at stake. And, seeing as we no longer hold any positions of power nationwide, our credibility is about all we have left.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
I don't know smagar
Caleb Howe Sunday, April 12th at 4:18PM EDT (link)Maybe tell that to five days ago.
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If he or his screwed up, we'll know soon enough.
smagar Sunday, April 12th at 4:57PM EDT (link)Until then, we shouldn’t fire until we know we have the right target.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
inaction speaks for itself
Caleb Howe Sunday, April 12th at 5:54PM EDT (link)Stephanopolous says a source tells him Obama essentially (at last) allowed the seals to get closer, but told them not to do anything unless the guy was basically dying. Way to go Pattonbama right?
Nope. He didn’t rescue a damn thing. The Navy and the hostage himself did it. Obama found out when they broke into the home dog toy shopping network with an alert.
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Exactly, Caleb.
redneck_hippie Sunday, April 12th at 6:04PM EDT (link)The USN, unlike The Novelty President, does not vote “present.”
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23.
No.
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 4:18PM EDT (link)Credibility is all we have left? You are joking, right?. I do not care @ credibility with the MSM. I’m not going to make nice (i.e., LIE) so the MSM will think well of me and/or of conservatives.
So no, I’m not giving Obama a pass just so CNN won’t attack us. That’s called being complicit, and I won’t do it.
What I have is my freedom and my integrity. Those will have to be pried from my cold, dead fingers.
As far as not holding positions of power, I hold the most important ones of all: an individual, an American citizen, and a voter.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
5 to infinity on that NO there JustLeaveMeAlone....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:21PM EDT (link)don’t really give a crap about the oldstream media thinks nor writes about the conservative movement. If we NEVER said anything they would MAKE IT UP!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Would make it up, and have.
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 4:33PM EDT (link)Sarah Palin’s baby’s real mother, for example
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Thanks for the perfect example TNJim....
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:39PM EDT (link)WE can never give an inch to the oldstream media NEVER….they are scum and need to be treated and such.
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Thou art welcome.
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 4:50PM EDT (link)A little KJV lingo on this Easter Sunday
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
I see I am rubbing off on you
David Hinz Sunday, April 12th at 8:21PM EDT (link)“Oldstream Media” does say it all…
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
I find it so much more appropriate than MSM because...
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 8:26PM EDT (link)there is NOTHING mainstream about them!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
LOL
Hera Sunday, April 12th at 4:25PM EDT (link)The MSM destroyed their credibility when they went “all in” for Barry, I could care less what they think of me.
Credibility...we don't need no stinking credibility
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 5:05PM EDT (link)smager
Well OK, you have a point, but seems many folks think that anything that smacks of actually getting the facts before attacking smacks of New Tone.
Seriously though, the truth will come out, what the orders that our superb US military were operating under, what is done next about this issue of Piracy off Africa and all the rest of the facts of this event.
Hopefully our R Congresscritters will make sure all the facts come out and the American public can then judge for themselves.
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Reality
Hera Sunday, April 12th at 4:17PM EDT (link)Captain Phillips is the hero here not President Obama. It was Capt Phillips who acted courageously to save himself and his crew. Meanwhile the Obama administration was busy negotiating with “moderate” tribal elders who had refused to arrest the pirates. Does anyone really think the Captain would have been saved had he waited on the Obama administration rather then jumping out of the lifeboat not once but twice?How many days would he have remained a hostage while the Obama administration sought talks with “moderate” pirates.
BINGO Hera! 5 5 5 5 5 5...nt
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 4:19PM EDT (link)…
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
"Machine Gun" Obama, knife in teeth
johnt Sunday, April 12th at 4:19PM EDT (link)beret jauntily on handsome head, but not covering those ears, will modestly take credit whichever way he can. Now he can speak, for the moment taking leave from the housing market and the governments plans to expand the wreckage.
A hero for our time.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
"Guys, we're here to talk about the Maersk Alabama right now" nt
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 4:36PM EDT (link)“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
OK so far so good...
Jack Sunday, April 12th at 4:26PM EDT (link)These guys will want revenge. They still hold a knife to the jugular of the world’s oil shipments and more. Now what do we do?
Jack
“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill
we protect our own..
Spyder33 Sunday, April 12th at 4:35PM EDT (link)And we keep it that way until asked for assistance. We Can’t be the worlds keepers and protectors forever. With Times the way they are, we circle the wagons and straighten out our own house first.
IMHO
Friend of Fred, Sarah, Rush, Glenn and Here’s to Hoping My Senior Senator John McCain Loses to what Hopefully will be JD Hayworth!! OH and BTW, The Nation can now enjoy Crappy Nappy as your director of Homeland Security! God Help Us!
We sure as hell
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 4:53PM EDT (link)don’t threaten to “arrest” them for misbehaving. We sure as hell don’t shed any tears for pirates killed while committing terroristic acts.
We blow them up. Not empty aspirin factories. The actual camps.
The time for talk is over. It’s time to act.
P.S. I do apologize for my language on this Holy Day, but I am really angry here.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
What do we do?
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 7:51PM EDT (link)Target practice.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
The Year Of The Captain..
Spyder33 Sunday, April 12th at 4:31PM EDT (link)First Captain Sulley! Now Captain Phillips…. Seems there still may be hope for this Nation as long as we follow the Lead of Real hero’s and not those we prop up for our own selfish reasons….
Friend of Fred, Sarah, Rush, Glenn and Here’s to Hoping My Senior Senator John McCain Loses to what Hopefully will be JD Hayworth!! OH and BTW, The Nation can now enjoy Crappy Nappy as your director of Homeland Security! God Help Us!
Here's your MSM spin..................
Kenny Solomon Sunday, April 12th at 4:55PM EDT (link)I haven’t seen much in the way of news reports, but…………………
The MSM are gonna make Teh Mess-I-Yah a bigger hero to the moonbats then he is already. They’ll go head over tea kettle to distance President Teleprompter from the Navy Commander at the scene…… they’ll put it out there that Obama said “whatever, dude, whatever” and that the Navy Commander took it upon himself to “initiate a violent encounter endangering the lives of civilians”.
I bet somebody on MSNBC will report almost the following exact words. Maybe they’ll even stage an interview with Nancy Pelosi to do it. You damn straight know she thinks like this………………..
On Monday’s Hardbawlz with Christine Matthews…………..
The unnecessary and violent military action undertaken by US Navy personnel in murdering three of four civilian entrepreneurs on the high seas will result in even more violence. We really need to pass a law on paper that will ban guns all around the world so this kind of tragedy will stop.
Folks, get ready for some BAD things said about all of us who dare to stand behind and alongside true heroes and those who willingly go in harm’s way.
Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.
CNN, apparently, reads you. They're on it. nt
mbecker908 Sunday, April 12th at 5:11PM EDT (link)Great... just flippin' great.
Kenny Solomon Sunday, April 12th at 5:18PM EDT (link)I instinctively knew it was coming, but not so fast.
Next thing will be that some ACLU lawyer will take the case for the #4 TERRORIST (they’re pirates only by an at-sea definition) and get him released just like stang said on his post below………. “We will wind up having to let this “criminal” go if he winds up in US Federal Court because the SEALS forgot to Mirandize him.”
Sickening.
Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.
Had a interesting thread going on about that very thing
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 5:25PM EDT (link)in another diary here, Kenny. Check it out:
http://www.redstate.com/bs/2009/04/11/the-eunuch-in-chief-shows-his-ineptitude-by-negotiating-with-terrorists/#comment-1132
Not sure if anyone ever checked out my link in my original post, but, oh well. It was a fun exchange.
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Thanks, Jim... will definitely check it out.
Kenny Solomon Sunday, April 12th at 5:37PM EDT (link)Everybody’s postings have been fast and furious on RS and I’m missing allot of “diary reading time”.
Plus I was out and about yesterday and today with my new tactical scope for the AR (think I got it zeroed fairly well to 350 yds./1,000 ft.).
Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.
Memo to US Navy. Shoot #4 and throw him over the side before the DOJ gets a hold of him!
stang Sunday, April 12th at 5:10PM EDT (link)I can’t believe they are even having this discussion. (rhetorical…I actually expected this.)
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97H54KO0&show_article=1&catnum=0
“Both Miller and Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said no decisions have been made regarding charges against the lone surviving pirate.
“The Justice Department will be reviewing the evidence and other issues to determine whether to seek prosecution in the United States,” Boyd said. ”
snip
“Attorney General Eric Holder said this past week that the U.S. hasn’t seen a case of piracy against an American ship in hundreds of years. U.S. prosecutors do have jurisdiction to bring charges when a crime is committed against a U.S. citizen or on a U.S. ship.
Officials said the pirate surrendered to U.S. forces. Details of the surrender were not immediately unclear but, under international law, the Navy has the right to hold pirates captured at sea and does not need to negotiate extradition with another country.”
We will wind up having to let this “criminal” go if he winds up in US Federal Court because the SEALS forgot to Mirandize him.
These leftist, relativist, morally bankrupt idiots are going to get us all killed. They gotta go.
“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”
John Locke
Keelhaul him. Under a carrier. Or a submarine. nt
mbecker908 Sunday, April 12th at 5:14PM EDT (link)A Trial would be a joke
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 5:17PM EDT (link)The folks we are trying to impress with how fair we are, will see it as unfair no matter the outcome.
Save time and money — he was caught red-handed in the act of piracy. Summary judgment. Pirates — wanted dead or alive, dead preferred.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
Which law covers that?
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 5:24PM EDT (link)Gee red4ever
I thought law and order was a conservative principle, and giving a fair and fast trial before the hanging was part of that principle.
But think of it this way, all the Liberals who cried and cried about how President Bush treated those poor ignorant terrorist creatures caught in Afghanistan, Iraq and other places were treated and not given a trial and locked up in Gitmo now have to explain away how this poor Pirate is about to be treated by his Obamaness justice department.
Will his Obamaness carry out swift and sure justice, or open the door wide to the ACLU, Code PinkO and the 9th Circus court to defend this poor harmless victim of American Imperial power…On yes…snark not aimed at you OFF.
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Yeah
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 5:31PM EDT (link)I’m a lawyer too. I trully believe in the American justice system. But, my sympathy is with the victims, not the perpetrators. I don’t want him walking because we forgot to mirandize him or to give Code Pink more ammo. it’s not like a fair trial will make anyone feel better but the conservatives who believe in law and order. The left will cry how unfair it was that he was tried at all. Our enemies will use it as propaganda.
He was injured. I really hate when someone dies from their injuires. Oops.
Let me work on the legal side for summary judgment.
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
You know an edit button would prevent Kowalskis
red4ever Sunday, April 12th at 5:39PM EDT (link)Anyway, here is a quick and dirty on the law related to piracy.
First and foremost our beloved Constitution. Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl. 10: To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas and offenses against the law of nations.
Law of Nations — piracy makes the perpetrators enemies of humanity. To me, that puts them on the same level as genocidaires. A few years in jail — even a life term — not punishment enough. Death if caught red-handed. It’s not like there is any doubt (except to the left wingnuts) that they did it. We are in a recession. There are not enough funds to adequately try everyone as it is. Why waste money on this guy?
The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.
Dante
But wait, the Rules of Engagement,
johnt Sunday, April 12th at 5:22PM EDT (link)don’t they require that at least one American be killed, one wife widowed or one mother left bereft in sorrow. Are we not fighting under the flag of modern liberalism where only death will justify as the Times would say,”a measured response.
Calling Eric Holder, calling Eric Holder.
Obama can still be a hero and we can still persecute our military.
Liberalism is always having it both ways.
“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville
An acknowledgment on behalf of Obama.
6eorge Jetson Sunday, April 12th at 5:25PM EDT (link)The latest from the AP jeez
Phillips represented us well.
If the account above holds up, I can at least acknowledge that the President didn’t tie the hands of those on the scene when the pirates were pointing the rifles at the captain.
My acknowledgment will abruptly stop when the liberals start to spin this as a “courageous” authorization. Is the bar so low that Obama gets praise for authorizing action in the face of pointed rifles?
Hold off on that Mammogram for 10 years
Here is my problem...
liberalrepublican Sunday, April 12th at 5:51PM EDT (link)This thing lasted 5 days.
Obama is lucky the Captain lasted that long.
What if they killed him on day 2 or 3 or 4???
If we sent in seals ASAP, the pirates would be dead before there was even a chance of him being killed.
“Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. … including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy”
I was wondering the same thing.
redneck_hippie Sunday, April 12th at 6:08PM EDT (link)What would Obama’s response have been if the dirtbags had killed the captain the first time he jumped overboard. Clearly, the “decision” to use force had not been made at that point.
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23.
Why were they only allowed to use deadly force if the Captain's life was in imminent danger?
AKSteveB Sunday, April 12th at 8:14PM EDT (link)That still smells too much of a law enforcement approach, rather than a military one. We want these guys dead, we don’t want to “bring them to justice.”
Hell is other people - Sartre
That was apparently the ROE handed down from The One.
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 8:17PM EDT (link)I think that Admiral chose his words very carefully so people who have some understanding of this stuff would know just what happened. Whoever had the decision on the Bainbridge is one crazy brave SOB, at least in career terms.
In Vino Veritas
A very slight correction
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 8:20PM EDT (link)Art
Not to give his Obamness any credit, a ROE formulated by the JCS and staff, endorsed by SECDEF and approved by His Obamaness.
There are professionals in that funny looking building and they know all about conducting operations, a Chicago pol knows bupkis.
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The JCS are definitionally acutely politically aware.
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 8:37PM EDT (link)By the time an officer gets to that level, he’s simply a bureaucrat/politico in uniform. Yes, they do possess military skills but their job is to harmonize those military skills with the “ambiance” desired by the Administration.
I, too, have been in lots of meetings where I presented what I was “able” to do, and my political masters told me what I would be “allowed” to do.
In Vino Veritas
A very sharp instrument
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 8:49PM EDT (link)A.
In my view the US military is a very sharp instrument right now, three months of his Obamaness has had little to any effect on the sharpness of our military and it’s leaders. The lessons of Iraq, Afghanistan and other parts of the world have seen to that.
I also don’t share your cynicism quite yet about the uniformed services “going native”. But keep an eye out for sudden decisions for any of these folks to retire, that would be the same thing that happened under Slick Willy in the early part of his terms in office.
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For the same reason the troops in Mogadishu could only fire if fired upon.
Diogenes314 Sunday, April 12th at 8:26PM EDT (link)Their top boss is an idiot.
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Let’s all compromise-everyone should just agree with me.
Friends Don’t Let Friends Vote Democrat.
is there just a little bit of irony in this sentence?
David Hinz Sunday, April 12th at 6:37PM EDT (link)Five days? If you are the captain, alone in that life boat with four pirates it could have seemed like an eternity (or at least like 444 days)
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
The irony is in the characterization
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 7:53PM EDT (link)1. World’s most powerful navy
2. Pirates in a lifeboat
Daring? Should be basic training for girl scouts earning their Sealegs badge.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
He didn't authorize "deadly force" until Fri. pm.
penguin2 Sunday, April 12th at 8:02PM EDT (link)Fox news reported that Obama had been asked twice for the use of deadly force, which he gave Friday pm and again Saturday am. Which indicates he had not authorized or preemptively ordered that action prior to Friday.
I’m with you David, on how that captain must have been feeling. Guns pointed at you, knowing that a rescue could end disastrously, time would seem like an eternity.
I am also concerned about the remaining hostages that have been taken by Somali pirates (over 200), are in danger of reprisals.
Watch the MSM spin this as accolades to Obama, but if it had been GWB in office, they would be against him and the military action; making the pirates out to be victims. As it is, the far left will still go after the military and paint our action as negative.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Bainbridge arrival
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 8:14PM EDT (link)penguin2
Bainbridge the closest US Navy ship to the area, and it’s a big ocean, did not arrive on scene until Thursday, 10 April. Why the command of this incident felt they had to ask twice for use of deadly force, beats me.
About the other hostages, well that’s not a US problem, that’s up to the governments of the other nations to which these hostages belong. Perhaps France can arrange a massive ransom payment or something for the hostages. Maybe they can take the issue to the always effective UN, that is such a wonderful toothless tiger.
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I'll bet this is about how it went down...
Vegas_Rick Sunday, April 12th at 5:38PM EDT (link)His sissiness is asked repeatedly for authorization to take out the pirates. The situation can be ended at any time using SEAL snipers.
The snipers are WITHIN 20 TO 30 YARDS of the terrorists.
The One says we can only shoot them if the captain’s life is imminent dangers.
The lifeboat is nearing Somali waters and the weather is turning to s&%@.
The Captain of the Bainbridge looks around his bridge and says, “I think the captain’s life is imminent danger.” “Do the rest of you t6hink the captain’s life is imminent danger?”
Unanimous answers to the affirmative.
The Captain contacts the SEAL team leader. “I have determined that the hostage’s life is imminent danger. You have authority to use deadly force.”
“Roger.”
Bang, bang, bang.
You heard it here first.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
But you'll never hear that story, even if true. In fact,
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 6:00PM EDT (link)especially if true.
In Vino Veritas
5+++++++
Caleb Howe Sunday, April 12th at 6:11PM EDT (link)awesome.
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Check out SteveLA's comment from BlackFive below... nt
mbecker908 Sunday, April 12th at 6:37PM EDT (link)Abso-flocking-lutely!
David Hinz Sunday, April 12th at 6:38PM EDT (link)The prez said to the Navy, “just don’t make me look bad.”
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Who's the lawyer that knows
Michael DeWeese Sunday, April 12th at 6:01PM EDT (link)What frikin U.N Resolution are they braying about that the SEALS broke by killing the 3 pirates and freeing the Capt. Phillips?
Brain Dead Republican
You didn't know ?
Kenny Solomon Sunday, April 12th at 6:32PM EDT (link)There’s a UN Resolution that says America and Israel are always wrong and at fault (that’s partial snark).
It’s called The (first) Durban Conference.
They’re about to hold Durban II which, among many other things, will make any and I mean ANY speech even lightly criticizing Islam or Muslims legally listed as “hate speech” on an international basis and punishable by arrest, trial, etc.
Think I’m kidding ?
Eye On The UN
Y’all need to get out in the world more.
Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.
Oh boy, here it comes.
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 6:28PM EDT (link)The following excerpts are from an AP article posted on foxnews.com:
“Obama said Phillips had courage that was “a model for all Americans” and he was pleased about the rescue, adding that the United States needs help from other countries to deal with the threat of piracy and to hold pirates accountable.”
The most powerful navy in the world needs HELP?? Against pirates?
On down the article:
“Jamac Habeb, a 30-year-old pirate, said that the killing of the three pirates was “a painful experience.”
“This is unfortunate action and our friends should have done more to kill the captain before they were killed. This will be a good lesson for us,” Habeb told the AP from one of Somalia’s piracy hubs, Eyl.
Residents of Harardhere, another port and pirate stronghold, were gathering in the streets after news of the captain’s release, saying they fear pirates may now retaliate against some of the 200 hostages they still hold.”
Ok, Obama, now how are you gonna solve the overall problem? More negotiations?
Germany responds:
“A spokesman for the German anti-piracy operation told the AP that the U.S. did not give any clue as to its plans in regard to the ship captain.”
Could this mean criticism of our Navy’s actions might be forthcoming from the German government? Why am I reminded all of a sudden about Europe’s reaction to the invasion of Iraq?
Here’s the whole article:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,514775,00.html
Maybe I’m reading too much into this, time will tell…
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
The Germans have a point
JustLeaveMeAlone Sunday, April 12th at 8:04PM EDT (link)Our alleged CinC didn’t say a single word about his plans or intentions.
And we aren’t the only country with citizens being held by Somali pirates.
Howzabout the TOTUS says, “Do No Screw With Us.” That should be clear enough. Should fit on the screen nicely, too.
Then, if the Germans, the Brits, the Saudis, or whomever wants to wuss around, it’s their problem.
Right now, the French are about the only ones who have shown a backbone. How’s that for embarrassing?
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
The French do this stuff more often than people think
Doc Holliday Sunday, April 12th at 8:09PM EDT (link)they never ask for UN approval to do what they think is in their best interests. they know there will be no international outcry or reportage, because, well, they are the French.
Molon Labe!
In their own sandbox, the French are pretty tough customers.
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 8:14PM EDT (link)It’s just that their sandbox isn’t very big and they are so obscessed with trying to one-up the US that they make themselves into a caricature. The nation itself may pride itself in its wussiness, but their military seems to be pretty efficient. Our troops have done some work with them in their old stomping grounds in Africa.
In Vino Veritas
They always have been when it comes to counter-terrorism.
Diogenes314 Sunday, April 12th at 8:43PM EDT (link)Plus they’ve been at it longer than either us or Btitain.
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Let’s all compromise-everyone should just agree with me.
Friends Don’t Let Friends Vote Democrat.
"Do not screw with us" would be fine with me
TNJim Sunday, April 12th at 8:41PM EDT (link)but I don’t see that happening, even granted what happened today. We’ll see what all will be read, eloquently, off the TOTUS in a day or so. Kudos to the French though, for showing a backbone.
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Black Five has an excellent writeup
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 6:33PM EDT (link)Link here.
Uncle Jimbo’s take
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Out HTML Code out darn spot
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 6:34PM EDT (link)Arrrrrr.
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fixed -nt
Caleb Howe Sunday, April 12th at 7:39PM EDT (link)nt
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SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 7:50PM EDT (link)Or as it’s also known, and ode to the Preview Button, how we miss you….
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Obama did fine...that is all
Samsara Sunday, April 12th at 6:59PM EDT (link)He stayed out of the way. He authorized the military to do their job, which is to protect American lives by killing the enemy. They had the good judgment and guts to use that authority well. Let the Democrats and their media organs overplay Obama’s role, and then attack that. Otherwise, give credit where it is due, the men in the U.S Navy who made the tough decisions and did the difficult and dangerous work.
So exactly who are you giving credit to?
Jack_Savage Sunday, April 12th at 7:15PM EDT (link)It sounds like you have fallen into the trap of saying that if Barack Obama doesn’t screw things up royally, it is a resounding success. I don’t know about you but I hold the CinC to a little teeny higher standard.
The Navy deserves all the credit, and probably acted on their own.
As I wrote
Samsara Sunday, April 12th at 7:30PM EDT (link)give credit where it is due, the men in the U.S Navy who made the tough decisions and did the difficult and dangerous work.
If you want to call Obama’s actions a “resounding sucess” thats your business
As with any Democrat, you have to parse the words,
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 7:45PM EDT (link)maybe even diagram the sentences. The Admiral said the so-called President gave the order to take action only if the Captain was in imminent danger. Well, Hell, he’s been in imminent danger since the pirates showed up. It’s clear that order meant that the Navy was to use force only if it looked as if the pirates were about to kill Captian Phillips. Quite clearly, the on-scene commander had his own definition of “imminent danger” and I’d be willing to bet that all his men and Capt. Phillips share that definition: kill the bastards when you get a chance.. As in: That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it!
In Vino Veritas
...if Barack Obama doesn’t screw things up royally...
mbecker908 Sunday, April 12th at 7:59PM EDT (link)But, IMLTHO, he did screw it up. Just how bad remains to be seen.
First of all, these jerks commit an act of war against us by taking US flagged shipping and holding US citizens hostage.
Second, TBP issues an order to not act unless the life of the Captain is in danger. That’s an order you give to the cops, not to the SEALs or the Marines.
Third, just wait until the wailing starts about how the life of the Captain was NOT in danger and the pirates - or what ever politically correct term they come up with for these guys - were murdered by the SEALs. Then some EuroWeenie state will lodge a charge against the SEALs with the World Court.
Fourth, the guy who is now being held “prisoner” by the Navy. What the hell are they going to do with him? Send him to GITMO? Will we try and prosecute him? I can just see the lawyers lined up to defend the SOB now.
Fifth, the “prisoner” was on board the US Navy ship “negotiating” for the release of the Captain. I thought we didn’t negotiate with terrorists for the release of hostages. Right now I’m really glad my travels outside of the US are over.
This was absolutely an exercise in jackassery.
Uh Uh
IJB Sunday, April 12th at 7:20PM EDT (link)It took *five* fricken days!
A real President would have cleared this up within 2 days.
YES, INDEED
Freedomlover Sunday, April 12th at 7:32PM EDT (link)Obama let the hero captain rot for days. A real President would have cleared it up sooner!
Don't think so...
mbecker908 Sunday, April 12th at 7:23PM EDT (link)If the story at BlackFive is correct - or even close - he didn’t stay out of the way and he acted like a local cop, authorizing the use of force ONLY if the Captain’s life was “in danger”. My current concern is that the men on the scene who made the decision to take out the pirates will have **it coming down on them for their decision when the rest of the world gets indigent, which they will.
what part
mom2oneson Sunday, April 12th at 7:39PM EDT (link)of a being hostage is your life not in danger? I don’t see in a hostage situation why that even had to be a qualifier. I don’t get the police have killed people here when they were not armed or even threatening them and the military has to have a qualifier when someone is a hostage?
Have you noticed the first attempt story has changed. First another pirate jumped in after him and now another pirate fired shots so he swam back.
The on-scene commander ain't getting promoted
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 7:48PM EDT (link)during this administration. But I’ll betcha Maersk or MM&P would have a good job for him if he decided not to study war no more under a BHO Administration.
I had a chance to go to work for MM&P a few years back. Maybe I’ll rethink turning that down.
In Vino Veritas
That not the end all for some officers
SteveLA Sunday, April 12th at 7:54PM EDT (link)A
I had a two star commander who was known to acknowledge that the two stars on his shoulders were way more than he ever expected to receive, so it was all gravy from that point on. He only toed the corporate line as long as it was not too offensive to him.
Heck, the rescue will make a good book and there are far worse things for a retired officer to do than work on their golf game and write a book.
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Forgiveness is easier to get than permission.
Achance Sunday, April 12th at 8:05PM EDT (link)During my working days, I was notorious for saying f@#$ it and doing what I thought ought to happen. If it worked, they couldn’t do anything to you except hate you and that felt pretty good as long as it was the right people who hated you. And if it didn’t work, you deserved what happened to you. Fortunately, I was pretty good and most of the time it worked.
In Vino Veritas
A legitimate concern...
Samsara Sunday, April 12th at 7:55PM EDT (link)…and if Obama doesn’t support their decisions to the hilt, or waffles on what they did, it would be a gutless act and I would call it such. I agree, this is something to watch.
As to the authorization, I wonder whether the wording came from the military or from the Administration. If it came from the Administration, then my question would be “exactly when wasn’t his life in danger”?
Guys, it's Easter...
Addison Sunday, April 12th at 7:43PM EDT (link)…and an American was saved from getting shot up by pirates with AK-47s. Today generated a number of heroes in a happy ending.
Now, it’s absolutely true that President Obama is not one of those heroes. He just gave the order — beginning on Friday according to reports — that if Captain Phillips’ life were in danger and it was possible to take the pirates out the Navy should take action. Which they did. That was just his role as Commander-in-Chief and doesn’t merit any special regard. It was a cautious stance but clearly Phillips life was the main concern as opposed to the pirates’ death.
But I’m kind of at a loss at the reaction here. How, with such great news on a day where y’all are (God willing) surrounded by family and holiness and joy, can so much snark and disdain be sustained? Why was that the first emotion some ran to on this?
God blessed the crew of the Maersk Alabama, Captain Phillips, and the Navy snipers who did their job so spectacularly. I say this all with respect, and I hope that’s clear. Happy Easter all.
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So the point of this comment is to attack us and shill for Obama?
Neil Stevens Sunday, April 12th at 7:46PM EDT (link)Huh.
Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
Neil...
Addison Sunday, April 12th at 7:54PM EDT (link)I am not shilling for Obama. Obama did the minimum of what was expected. And I am not attacking you all. Despite the fact that, since the inauguration, I’ve really had no role whatsoever to play here I still feel tangentially a part of this community. It is strange to see the reaction, and I don’t understand it. Eh, you know, I realize that I probably should have just kept my mouth shut but there were a lot of people posting on this thread whom I generally respect and I guess I was just surprised at the slant of the comments.
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very telling words
David Hinz Sunday, April 12th at 8:09PM EDT (link)So they cut the funding off now that you’re not needed?
The Minority Report — The HinzSight Report — TMRB.tv — MFOB “Miss Tagart, do you know the hallmark of the second-rater? It’s resentment of another man’s achievement.”
Heh, I wish!
Addison Sunday, April 12th at 8:16PM EDT (link)Imagine my disappointment when, even after embedding myself here for over 3 and a half years hoping for a payday, Obama’s campaign didn’t come to my door with some cash…
Heh. I think that most conservatives who’ve been here as long as I have pretty much know that half the time when I post I’m actually agreeing with you guys (well, mostly Moe), and when I’m being critical I’m not trying to just throw sand in your eyes for no reason, it’s out of some interest in the health of the community here. I hope that’s clear. Moe and Pejman are two of my daily must reads.
However, since the inauguration there just aren’t as many discussions where I feel I have something to offer in, or feel like whatever it is I would have to contribute would be useful to the general stream and tenor of the conversation.
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Addison, I'm with you.
smagar Sunday, April 12th at 9:07PM EDT (link)If we choose this hill to fight on, we need to be very specific on the exact mistakes we’re criticizing the president for. And, those should be things we knew he screwed up.
I was in an Army division HQ during DESERT STORM and in the Pentagon during crises that can’t be named. What struck me the most was how little you actually knew in the first few hours after something happened. The first stories you hear are often wrong, incomplete, skewed or all of the above.
I hope we don’t say something now that we’ll regret in a few days.
Rest assured, any screwups we make on this count will run 24/7 on CNN for the next week.
As we get ready for the Tea Party, I’m struck by how many people are turned off by the Republican brand. We need to turn them back on before the 2010 elections (2009 in VA and NJ). We have to avoid PR mistakes.
Now, if Obama DID screw something up, by all means let’s talk about it. But, from now on, if we’re going to take a shot, we need to know we’ve got a real good chance of hitting the target.
“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)
I'm speaking for myself here, Addison. Very grateful indeed
janis Sunday, April 12th at 7:54PM EDT (link)that this brave man, Capt. Phillips is free and able to return to his ship and his family. His sacrifice of his own freedom and possibly his life is certainly a timely event for Easter week.
But as to the snark and disdain, Obama and Co. earned it in spades. To allow the FBI to mess around in this is a nasty reminder of the Clueless Clinton Years when all the world knew that we were hamstrung by an ineffective CinC who made it his business to diss and destroy our military whenever possible. Obama is cut from the same cloth. He has no respect that I can see for the military, only appearing with them if the circumstances can be controlled and tilted in his favor.
Quite the opposite of President Bush, who was beloved by those same troops who knew that it was his hand that signed them into wars. And yet they always knew that his heart was with them, that he honored their service and felt every single sacrifice.
Obama is so very far from that kind of man, and I don’t think he yearns to be that kind of man.
I certainly didn't expect...
Addison Sunday, April 12th at 7:58PM EDT (link)…any plaudits for Obama on this. I don’t think he deserves them considering his role was just to rubberstamp an obvious cautious course of action once it was decided that Phillips’ life was more important than the pirates’ death. I believe that it was military folks who designed and presented the plan, after all.
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The pirates death would never be treated as anything other than a good thing, other than by a society in a kumbaya dreamland nt
AKSteveB Sunday, April 12th at 8:20PM EDT (link)Hell is other people - Sartre
You said it Janis, "honored their service and felt every sacrifice."
penguin2 Sunday, April 12th at 8:22PM EDT (link)George W. Bush was a beloved Commander-in-Chief, both active duty and veterans saw him as genuine and sincere. Obama’s known history of being anti-military, let alone anti-war, will always make him suspect to the troops.
Your concluding sentence is insightful, and I think that is what the military and people like us sense about Obama. Thus, we cannot believe him or believe in him. There is “something” that just doesn’t ring true.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Your self-righteousness is unbecoming.
bs Sunday, April 12th at 7:57PM EDT (link)see here
Decorum is fo’ suckas
You know Addison I will let you in on something...
JadedByPolitics Sunday, April 12th at 8:01PM EDT (link)Whether it is Easter, Christmas, July 4th or Monday April 13th WE will be coming at The One hard. This is NOT going to let up WE will NOT ever be so kind as to let one small minutia of stupidity or lies to go unanswered. WE have learned well from the left in the past 8 years. WE will of course have facts to back up that with which we talk about. WE will at times just jack him up for sh*ts and giggles. The bottom line for you and yours is GAME ON!
I believe Erick said it best after the election “from 48 to 52 NO” WE will NEVER GO ALONG TO GET ALONG EVER AGAIN! You all seem to think that the RIGHT should be singing and hand holding with you all as if 8 years of the most SHRILL, DISGUSTING and HATEFUL voices throughout the Democrat Party, Oldstream media and pathetic bloggers should be forgiven and forgotten. IT WILL NOT BE. WE will be as kind to your President as you all were to ours!
Silent Majority no more!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
The power of the Stars and Stripes
JamesLBurns Sunday, April 12th at 7:53PM EDT (link)Would be nice if this were follows up with a clear announcement that the US Navy will defend the flag from all acts of piracy and an invitation to the shipping companies of the world to reflag their ships and hire US Citizen crews to benefit from that protection. That’s the kind of economic stimulus I would support.
Getting a bit reflective...
Wing Zero Sunday, April 12th at 9:32PM EDT (link)You know… I have conflicting feelings about the death of the Pirates…
I initially celebrated their death…. but wondered if I should really do that as a Christian… I decided I shouldn’t.
Stay with me… It gets better, I promise.
I am totally grateful for the US Navy, and the spared life of the kidnapped Captain.
I think about the mercy of the Lord, and how Jesus shed his blood for everyone. Putting emotion aside, because I’m trained to think, not feel like libs do, The Lord’s mercy was even shown to the Pirates. They had 3 days to turn themselves in. (3 days… the Irony) They had a chance to say “OK. We give up.” Their lives could have been spared. They know this now, as they are burning in Hell, surely wishing they could go back and do things different.
They chose to live “by the sword.” They died “by the sword.” As a Christian, I wish their lives could have been different. But as we are all given free will, they made their choice, and have reaped what they sowed.
Sad. Young men wasting their lives for nothing. Their blood is on their own heads.
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