… or at least, by the ad agencies.
The History Channel is a generally well-respected brand in the United States. The shows routinely make “water-cooler” conversation at sites like Redstate. Indeed, the sister networks like The Military Channel are staples among conservative viewers, as anyone who spends any time around conservatives and veterans is well aware. So you can imagine my surprise reading an article earlier this week titled “Anti-American History Channel Ads You Won’t See In The US Or Online” at the Business Insider website. There were three images included which are, to say the least, inflammatory.
The campaign, titled “History is Written By The Winners” was represented by three images (History Channel logo has been removed):
Highly inflammatory, as well as disputable, and clearly anti-American. I immediately started looking into the story to find out why, or even if, the History Channel would actually run such vile ads, and why Ogilvy & Mather would create them. While I was researching, the story changed.
Less than a day after I read it, the article was updated with the following information:
Update: A rep for A&E Television, which owns HIstory Channel, says these are not authorized History Channel ads. This rep did not know if they were created by Ogilvy and Fran Luckin, as they were attributed on Adsoftheworld.com. We’ve updated the images with watermarks reflecting their inauthenticity.
Interesting. But a number of questions still remained. If A&E didn’t order the ads, who did? And why? Are they actually fakes?
Well … no. Not exactly.
I contacted Adsoftheworld.com to find out where they had obtained the ads, and why they were attributed to Ogilvy. It turns out that the ads were, in fact, submitted by an unaffilliated third party. However, Adsoftheworld had every reason to attribute them to Ogilvy. You see, Ogilvy won the Silver at the prestigious CLIO awards this year for the very campaign, and the three posters are, at the time of this writing, still featured on the award page! It’s kinda hard to win an award for fake ads. (Update: Ed Driscoll notes that the CLIO website has removed the ads from the web page. I did, however, keep a screenshot, which you can see here.)
Clearly there remained some question as to the validity of the images. It is not as easy as just stamping FAKE on them. I contacted Ogilvy, CLIO and A&E for statements.
I spoke first with Michael Feeney, Senior Vice President of Corporate Communications at A&E Television. Let’s begin with his official statement:
“The History channel has nothing to do with any of these ads and we’ve contacted representatives around the world to take them down and to immediately cease and desist.”
I asked Mr. Feeney if he was aware of any circumstance or location where the ads had actually been run. He was not aware, and no one had contacted him regarding any print versions, only the online versions. Until I told him about the CLIOs he was apparently not aware, and did not know the images were still running on the CLIO website. As the original story stated, he indicated that the ads were purported to have been run in South Africa. I asked him if A&E had contacted the Johannesburg office. He indicated they had, and that the office specifically denied any involvement with the ads. He also pointed out to me that the ads used their old logo, not their new one. He pointed out that the History Channel is not known for any anti-American sentiments, and said he was just as distraught as anyone else when he saw the ads. He declined to point a finger at Ogilvy, but repeatedly and emphatically stated that A&E and the History Channel had no part in the ads, and were not aware of them until the article ran at Business Insider.
I also spoke with a representative for the CLIO awards. I wanted to know if it was possible to win a CLIO with a campaign that was speculative or hypothetical. Here is the official statement from Karl Vontz, Director of Events for AdweekMedia and the CLIO Awards:
“Part of the CLIO Awards entry submission process for judging does include criteria that the work submitted must run/be published in order to be considered. We appreciate you bringing this to our attention and we will contact the agency and look into this matter.”
With that information, I spoke again with A&E. Though Mr. Feeney again declined to lay any blame on Ogilvy, he again emphatically denied that the campaign was real, and denied that it was ever commercially run.
Obviously, there is a problem here. Either CLIO is right and the ads ran, meaning that A&E is flat wrong, or CLIO is not right, and the ads did not run. If they did not run, then one must wonder how they came to be recipients of such high honors. Did Ogilvy submit a fraudulent entry to the CLIO awards, using the History Channel’s logo without permission?
I contacted Ogilvy prior to receiving the above quoted statements, so when I received the following comment, it was in response to an inquiry that did not mention the CLIO awards, only the earlier denial by the History Channel. Here was the official response from Toni Lee, Public Relations, Ogilvy & Mather:
The ads were part of a creative exploration made pro-actively by Ogilvy Johannesburg but were never produced commercially.
Not very definitive. Although my reading of their statement, in comparison to the rules of the competition as they were outlined to me, is that they did indeed improperly enter the ads for the CLIO awards. I have responded for further clarification but do not have any additional comment from the company at this time.
I would not, of course, have been shocked to see a corporate entity pandering to anti-Americanism abroad and patriotism at home. I mean, it’s been done. But I have to admit it would have been highly distressing coming from the History Channel. It seems, though, that the anti-Americanism came directly from Ogilvy & Mather. We can’t really let CLIO off the hook, either. Whether they were defrauded or not as to the origin of the ads, they selected them as winners, didn’t they?
The irony in the slogan of the campaign is rich. For this is how history is actually written of late; Memes are echoed between mass media, blogs, left-wing activists, and back again, both here and abroad. The death tolls in the Iraq ad, for example, are nothing you don’t see every day on sites like DailyKos and FireDogLake. And they are monstrously false, both in the implied premise and the actual numbers. The idea that you can even compare the number of deaths at the hands of a monster and the number of deaths cost in freeing people from those hands is absurd. If Hitler’s death camps cost fewer lives than the war to destroy them, then let them stand? Nonsense.
But in this case, the numbers aren’t remotely accurate. How about the million plus who died in the Iran-Iraq war? How do they even calculate which deaths count and which do not? Does blowing yourself up get you on the list? How about fighting as an insurgent? Or how about the comparison of Pearl Harbor to Hiroshima? They drop an entire war from history just to make a point.
The campaign in whole is designed as an indictment of America as an evil-doer and an imperialistic death machine covering its tracks. The point is delivered without logic or actual facts; propaganda in true form. There can be no clearer case of anti-Americanism.
In this sordid tale, the most clearly guilty party is Ogilvy Johannesburg. They do not deny creation of the campaign, only whether or not it actually ran. And although CLIO certainly can’t be expected to judge the quality of an ad campaign based on the political message, their judgment is at least questionable in selecting such a divisive and hateful political message as a winner in their competition. They would not be let off the hook for choosing an overtly racist ad as a winner, for example.
The A&E representatives seem genuinely offended by the ads, and certainly consider them a brand liability. They are actively pressuring websites hosting the images to remove them. It seems clear that A&E, at least at the corporate level here in the United States, did not want these ads, and are anxious to be rid of them, which speaks well in their favor.
But the greatest blame lies with a media and popular culture in which such blatantly anti-American vitriol has become so commonplace. Who can doubt that Kos and his breed of left-winger would cheer these ads? No doubt there’d be an increased market share for the History Channel in those corners … just look at MSNBC. It is a culture which actively and openly says “yes we can” to propaganda and manipulation. The uncritical eye of the left is swift to embrace any imagery or information which says America is bad, a point touched on by former Vice-President Cheney in his speech this morning.
The “this is why they hate us” crowd are a dangerous bunch. Because, unsatisfied with suggesting to you here at home that our enemies abroad have reason to hate us, they go out into the world, out among our enemies, and they say it to them as well.” You are right to hate us, look at what we have done!”
It’s not mere indictment but incitement of the worst kind. And this time, someone should be made to answer for it.
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- Caleb Howe, Redstate
UPDATE: The CLIO Awards Site has removed the ads, and I obtained a further comment:
“The CLIO Awards have removed the advertisements from the 2009 winners list and shortlist on the website until further investigation.”




great investigative reporting Caleb!
Doc Holliday Thursday, May 21st at 9:22PM EDT (link)I read something in passing recently, all I got was History Channel = Anti-American. Since I love the Military Channel and enjoy the History Channel I am pleased that this is not the case. Although I have an idea there may be more to this, but trust you will get it all cleared up
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Nice work. And not surprising. -nt-
bs Thursday, May 21st at 9:26PM EDT (link)Decorum is fo’ suckas
Really good piece
LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Thursday, May 21st at 9:42PM EDT (link)And they tell us that conservative bloggers can’t do any original reporting because they don’t know how. Pshaw!
So why can’t I vote this up again?
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Fred Maidment Thursday, May 21st at 9:35PM EDT (link)Forget the “whole war.” How about Japanese “battles” in China? There is a reason they call it “The Rape of Nanking,” and lots more people died there than at Hiroshima or Nagasaki…
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And the rape of nanking was "up close and personal", too
Next93 Thursday, May 21st at 10:32PM EDT (link)Hiroshima and Nakasaki were strategic strikes. Terrible as they were, they consisted of the dropping of two bombs. The decisions were made, right or wrong, in order to save American lives (and in all likelihood saved tens of thousands of Japanese lives in the process).
The Rape of Nanking was more along the lines of 70,000 individual acts of barbarism, carried out by common foot soldiers of the Empire of Japan, with the encouragement of thier officers. It was carried out as revenge on the Chinese for having had the temerity of resisting the advance of the Imperial Japanese Army.
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Probably off by an order of magnitude...
juumanistra Friday, May 22nd at 9:59AM EDT (link)With Curtis LeMay’s bombers waiting the wings for Operations Coronet, Olympia, and beyond, the death tolls of the Japanese would have easily run into the hundreds of thousands had the war bled into 1946. (If not more, at the that: LeMay, after all, argued against the use of the atomic bomb because it was insufficiently destructive and a massive diversion of resources that could better be spent on strategic firebombing.)
People who complain about
Warrior Friday, May 22nd at 11:13AM EDT (link)the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombings weren’t standing in a heaving Higgins boat, wearing a 70 lbs rucksack, carrying an M-1 rifle and ticking off the things they would likely never get to do with their 18 year old lives…
Critics of the bombings should read a history book. The Japanese fought almost to the last man to save several pieces of volcanic rock in the central and south Pacific. How much fiercer would they have fought for their own homeland? And forget about Japanese casualties. American casualties predicted to invade the home islands were estimated at close to a million…
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Racist thinking?
Next93 Friday, May 22nd at 2:24PM EDT (link)My daugher had a social studies teacher at a Catholic high school who claimed that the beleif that the Japanese population would have fought to the last living soul is a racist conceit. He simply wouldn’t accept the fact that all available evidence at the time (or even today) indicates the exact opposite.
The only reason I didn’t pull my daughter out of the class was that she did such a good job of contracticting him in class. My father was stationed on the Phillipenes, staging for the invasion of the home islands. He told me once that the slogan of his unit was “Golden Gate by ‘68″; they fully expected another 20+ years of war, and when I asked him if they expected to be coming home or retreating by ‘68, he said it was about 50-50.
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Warrior Thursday, May 28th at 9:34AM EDT (link)did your daughter’s social studies “educator” need? Signed statements by everyone on the homeislands that they would fight to the end?
Indeed, the militarists in Japan were still not willing to surrender even after the nuclear bombs were used. The Emperor himself had to INSIST on surrender before they would give up th ghost.
Social stidies propaganda is that every issue is reducible to race.
“Attorney General Holder’s decision to re-open the criminal investigation creates an atmosphere of continuous jeopardy for those whose cases the Department of Justice had previously declined to prosecute.”
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Don't forget the attempted coup
Next93 Thursday, May 28th at 6:23PM EDT (link)Even the Emperor’s insistence wasn’t enough for some officers. I understand that one group of officers tried to stage a coup det’a to prevent the Emperor’s radio message from going out. They were thwarted by a blackout triggered by an air raid, and the officers leading the coup comitted suicide (some might actually have performed the sepuku ritual).
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Fishy numbers?
jeffreywturner Thursday, May 21st at 9:55PM EDT (link)They must have gotten their figures on the Iraq deaths from Michael Moore.
Also, I love their moral relativism. Iraqis murdered by Saddam as examples to strike fear into their brethren are no more Saddam’s fault than Iraqis killed when being used as human shields by the terrorists are our fault.
“Life is too short, can’t we all just eat pork and kill some terrorists?”
Great investigative reporting
antisocial Thursday, May 21st at 9:59PM EDT (link)…. very nice
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
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Republicans who lost the Crap-and-Raid fight in the House -
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I agree, great investigative work. Bravo, Sir. - nt
Lori_Z Friday, May 22nd at 2:16AM EDT (link)Also known as SnarkandBoobs
The History Channel is no great shakes anyways
rocketeer Thursday, May 21st at 10:09PM EDT (link)The military side is generally full of mistakes. The writing may be mundane to fair, but their image selection is the usual Hollywood rotten. In the course of illustrating an event, such as the Pearl Harbor attack they will show you USN SBDs diving (without bombs, no less!), the target a late-war US cruiser, a different kind of airplane pulling out of the attack, and such.
Consistency has been a problem with filmmakers, way back to WW2 era films. But if you slap a medal on your chest like ‘History Channel’, you had better get things right.
Then there is the whole other issue of rewriting history to fit the current favored philosophy. They are no more, or less, guilty than the most recently published retelling of some old campaign, or about how the American War of Independence was a trade war. But again, if your expertise is history then you ask for harsher judging.
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Audio on the clips is usually bogus, too
Next93 Thursday, May 21st at 10:24PM EDT (link)I watch both the History Channel and the Military channel a lot. Generally I like the content, BUT…
My pet peeve is that they overlay Hollywood audio over clips you *know* were silent. This is particularly true for WWI documentaries, but I find it really annoying that they perpetuate the idea that *every* propeller-driven plane in a dive sounds just like a Stuka with its dive sirens screaming.
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What bugs me about the History Channel
LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Thursday, May 21st at 11:03PM EDT (link)Is the Dan Brown and man-bites-dog conspiracy theorizing. If it isn’t Jesus’ wife, it’s his brothers, or those horrible crusades, or Romans and Greeks oppressing the poor Phoenicians of Carthage, or Brits oppressing India, or the noble savages visiting Rome and taking a few things with them in their “sacks”.
“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”
actually all that pseudoscience stuff and the prophesies and all that
kyle8 Thursday, May 21st at 11:08PM EDT (link)get real boring after a while. Nostradumbass and the Mayans can go to hell.
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I would also like them to stop
Raven Thursday, May 21st at 11:29PM EDT (link)Telling us how great the world will be in just a hundred years or so if humanity were to stop existing…
1 channel explaining it to us was bad enough, but now we have 3.
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kyle8 Friday, May 22nd at 6:16AM EDT (link)5
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
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the Military channel is much better
Doc Holliday Friday, May 22nd at 7:39PM EDT (link)of course it does lost of crazy things like “rank” weapons in different time periods, and for different uses, but look at the crap everyone else is putting on?
Molon Labe!
Once you've witnessed an explosion in person
JoeG Friday, May 22nd at 2:37AM EDT (link)The audio / video sync will bug the heck out of you.
The only time the audio matches the video is if you’re being blown up.
If you’re far enough away to survive, then the sound doesn’t get to you until long after you see it. I didn’t think of it before I watched a large implosion in person. I then went home and watched the coverage on the local TV news and the editing to move the sound up in time to match the image just seemed so fake.
actually some of us have history expertise and
Doc Holliday Friday, May 22nd at 7:37PM EDT (link)are happy when the masses are exposed to any real history at all. Don’t be a bore, the only thing worse than a history guy constantly carping during a historical show is a gun guy going on and on about the ridiculous mistakes in Hollywood gunplay.
disclaimer, I am both and have done both many times, so this is criticism from friends. I still stand behind it, better the History Channel than The View, Idol, or Sex in the City imho.
Molon Labe!
Huh?
mockmook Thursday, May 21st at 11:23PM EDT (link)How do these win an award?
Even as anti-American propaganda these suck.
Mark Levin has warned and explained...
dirkbelig Thursday, May 21st at 11:44PM EDT (link)…what’s going on here in “Liberty and Tyranny” on pgs. 18-19 where he lays out how the Statists insist that civil society view the world through the prism of those who hate us and accept the condemnation for our sins as a blight on the planet.
Obama’s Orwellian, lie-packed speech today at the National Archives was full of “Bush tore up the Constitution and made America an evil more evil predator on the world, but I’m here to set things right” malarkey. (Power Line has be Fisking the hell out of this stuff. Go read it.)
These ads are part and parcel of the propaganda campaign in which Statists wag their fingers at us and command us to be ashamed and dispirited that we are such bad people and people are doing as they’re told since they see the alternative is to be smeared and vilified like Cheney, Palin and Joe T. Plumber. It’s easier for them to live on their knees than die on their feet.
And we all get to go down with them. Lovely.
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We Do?
IJB Thursday, May 21st at 11:54PM EDT (link)And we all get to go down with them. Lovely.
Uh, I didn’t sign on for that.
If some people aren’t willing to fight, that’s their problem.
The rest of us are just waiting for the inevitable fight to come. And we plan on winning.
I disagree
McKinley Thursday, May 21st at 11:57PM EDT (link)These ads are crude but to say they represent mainstream thinking on the left or the center on our past is an overstatement. It would be like saying Ward Churchill is in the mainstream of the Democratic Party.
Almost every liberal I know loves this country as much as you or I do. In discussing our nation’s history, and especially its foreign policy, the majority seem to enjoy thinking critically about the decisions our leaders made then damning it all. They are more inclined to play Monday Morning Quarterback than those on the right and judge our actions retrospectively with what I feel is insufficient empathy for the circumstances surrounding any decision made by a president or a general.
Ward Churchill is the the mainstream of the Democrat party....
JadedByPolitics Friday, May 22nd at 3:33AM EDT (link)and if you don’t think so you are not watching the looney tunes that is the party apparatus for Democrats! When you have Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their anti-Americanism in the face of the greatness of this country you have Ward and what he believes Wright, Ayers etc and their beliefs running the Democrats!
“judge our actions retrospectively with what I feel is insufficient empathy for the circumstances surrounding any decision made by a president or a general.”
empathy PULEEZ they don’t have empathy because they HATE the prior President and DESPISE our General’s….give me a break!
OBTW GREAT job Caleb!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
yes, he is
Doc Holliday Friday, May 22nd at 7:41PM EDT (link)he is the mainstream of the party leadership and those who fund the party. there are still a lot of joe blows that are Democrat for no good reason and don’t follow politics, such as union guys.
Molon Labe!
exactly jaded and doc and doc touches on a MAJOR fact that we, the GOP
Mike gamecock DeVine Friday, May 22nd at 7:53PM EDT (link)must deal with, i.e. that the Dem Party is the DEFAULT position of a large majority due to the history of this country. Therefore, we have to give people a reason to switch from default.
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Get out more
McKinley Friday, May 22nd at 7:43PM EDT (link)meet people who disagree with you. Talk with them, not to them, and you’ll find most Democrats are politically liberal, but that politcally liberal is not synonmous with anti-American or hated of country, as you seem to be implying.
Don’t take the worst five percent of Obama supporters and assume they are representative of the whole group. Associating Ward Churchill with Obama is nonsense, as you probably know. Claiming these ads are emblematic of liberal thought on our nation’s past is equally unsubstantiated. Some people on the other side think this way, most do not.
wow, that is some messed up crap
Doc Holliday Friday, May 22nd at 7:48PM EDT (link)Stuart Smalley could not have said it better. I simpler and more concise description is that the left doesn’t know jack about history and what they do know is that they are supposed to blame America first. I wanted to be fair with you, but this is absurd. You are are among bright people here, you can’t call us dumb without getting bitch slapped.
Molon Labe!
like the difference between men and women
David Hinz Friday, May 22nd at 8:02PM EDT (link)Conservatives love this country for what it IS, what it stands for, the greatness that created this nation in the first place.
Liberals love this nation for the utopia they believe they can turn it into, if only they can get complete control of people’s lives.
Just like marriage — men marry women hoping they will never change (mostly they do) while women marry men hoping they can change them into their ideal husband.
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Mike gamecock DeVine Friday, May 22nd at 8:16PM EDT (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
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heh Hinz
Doc Holliday Friday, May 22nd at 8:16PM EDT (link)I see it in the same terms. And if you love something “for what it could be”, then you don’t love it at all.
Molon Labe!
awesome Doc - one of the best succinct statements of what love/patriotism is that I have ever heard. I will
Mike gamecock DeVine Friday, May 22nd at 8:20PM EDT (link)be using it!
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thanks GC
Doc Holliday Friday, May 22nd at 8:23PM EDT (link)I can’t write as well as you, but I do think well lol. Use it whenever you want.
Molon Labe!
55555555 nt
ColdWarrior Friday, May 22nd at 8:31PM EDT (link)nt
American first, conservative second and Republican precinct committeeman by necessity.
http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com, so you can say, “I became a precinct committeeman before it was cool.”
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So you agree with your "insufficient empathy" conclusion
Mike gamecock DeVine Friday, May 22nd at 8:16PM EDT (link)Quite frankly, coming from you, that is quite devastatingly honest. I used to be Dem party official for 18 years, and I got to where I just couldn’t abide their lack of empathy for my country and I will never forgive nor forget their bushlied era.
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These ads were crude
McKinley Thursday, May 21st at 11:46PM EDT (link)Rehnquist might call them inarticulate grunts, and I suspect he would right for doing so.
That said, examining how intepretations of events change as regimes change, thought evoles, and time goes by would make for an excellent series on the history channel, one certainly more valuable than Nazi UFO stories.
Take, for example, Andrew Jackson and the Indian Wars. Many historians now call it genocidal and Old Hickory’s reputation has suffered. Other scholars, Robert V. Remini comes to mind, contend Jackson had no other policy option save Indian removal and that we should try to see Jackson as he thought of himself vis-a-vis the southern tribes - as their savior.
How we choose to remember this regretable chapter in American history deeply influences how we view our past and the confidence we have in our own values as guiding points for future action.
Excellent Point
The_Opinionator Thursday, May 21st at 11:48PM EDT (link)“The idea that you can even compare the number of deaths at the hands of a monster and the number of deaths cost in freeing people from those hands is absurd. If Hitler’s death camps cost fewer lives than the war to destroy them, then let them stand? Nonsense.”
Excellent point Caleb. Never heard it phrased that way but it is the way it should be discussed moving forward.
Great job Caleb!!
Susannah Friday, May 22nd at 12:21AM EDT (link)Excellent job researching here.
Bravo!
Brian Simpson Friday, May 22nd at 12:47AM EDT (link)You made the big time. Linked as a main article on memeorandum.
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Your best work ever Caleb...
Aaron Gardner Friday, May 22nd at 9:17AM EDT (link)absolutely exceptional!!
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History Channel is not so
Warrior Friday, May 22nd at 11:33AM EDT (link)innocent of left wing propoganda or motives as one might think. Or maybe I’m just a misinformed member of the vast right wing extremist conspiracy.
Having said that, however, I couldn’t help notice that yesterday morning when the home-grown Muslim Terrorist story was popping, the Hist Chan was conveniently showcasing a tired rehashing of the KKK’s history. Coincidence I’m sure. (Funny, I don’t remember Robert Byrd’s name being mentioned.)
Maybe JaNap should issue an “intelligence product” which covers how disgruntled malcontents in prison are vulnerable to being “radicalized” by Islamic extremists in prison…
BTW, Caleb, great article! (Or whatever one calls stories on the internet…I’m sure I’m way behind the times.)
“Attorney General Holder’s decision to re-open the criminal investigation creates an atmosphere of continuous jeopardy for those whose cases the Department of Justice had previously declined to prosecute.”
—–signed by former [CIA] directors Michael Hayden, Porter Goss, George Tenet, John Deutch, R. James Woolsey, William Webster and James R. Schlesinger.
Read http://www.redstate.com/warrior/ for insightful commentary on today’s events…