Is Mass-Care The Answer For America? Mitt Romney Thinks So!


In the irony of ironies category, Human Events interviews Mitt Romney about what America needs in a government health care system, Mitt Romney Talks Health Care Solutions based on his success in Massachusetts insuring all it’s citizens “without breaking the bank”.

I’d be laughing if I weren’t choking back tears of utter frustration.

You all Remember Mitt…he’s the current front runner for 2012. He’s the genius of the business world, the FisCon’s FisCon. He’s the guy that saved the 2002 Winter Olympics. He’s the champion of the free market and the engineer of the “Market Based” health Care plan in Massachusetts.

So…What does Mitt think of his work as Governor of Massachusetts in passing Socialized Health Care Reform?

When it comes to suggesting that Republicans are the party of “no, ” I hope people remember that there is only one state that has coverage for all of its citizens, and it’s Massachusetts and it’s something that a Republican governor was able to accomplish. So Republicans have views and plans and our plans have a number of positive features.

First, every one I’ve seen gets our citizens insured, and does so without establishing a government insurance program. And also does so without creating a trillion dollar obligation of the taxpayers of the nation. And that’s what I think is critical. We have proven in Massachusetts that you can get everyone insured without having to break the bank. You can get everyone insured without having government institute an insurance plan. And whether you like our Massachusetts plan or not, it proves those two things, and there are some others that have other features that are perhaps just as good or better than those that we devised in Massachusetts. They ought to be evaluated, scored by the CBO and given the kind of thorough analysis that a topic as big as healthcare deserves.

And this:

There’s a frequent confusion between two different topics. One is the topic of the Massachusetts Plan which was designed to get people who were uninsured into the insurance system, and that’s working as planned, and almost precisely as budgeted, as forecast by the conferees who put the final bill together. As I indicated, the forecast for FY 2009 was a gross cost of $725 million and it turns out that next fiscal year the forecast of the actuaries is going to be slightly less than that, about $723 million. That’s about as close as it gets. The net cost is about half that figure, about $350 million.

Duck Tape please…My head is going to explode! “We have proven in Massachusetts that you can get everyone insured without having to break the bank. are you !@#$ing %^&%ing me!!!! I can’t think of anything dumber a politician could say when the facts are considered. And this is the guy FisCons are championing for 2012?

First of all…”Without Breaking The Bank”.

Already the state is having to adjust it’s payments for hospitals, doctors and other health care providers. Care is being rationed and emergency services curtailed. Waiting periods to see a doctor are increasing, (some waiting lists are up to a year for the better doctors) despite Massachusetts having more doctors per capita than any state in the country and there are now discussions in the state legislature of paying Doctors a set fee directly and eliminating fee for service billing. Some of you may remember the recent dust up when Massachusetts announced it would be illuminating benefits to 30,000 illegal immigrants.

Additionally, Here’s just one Article from over a year ago discussing the effects of Mass Care after two years and projections of exploding costs for this year! Please note, the projections were from Feb 2008 and don’t factor in the effect of the shrinking economy and the loss of revenue that has resulted:

Cost of Massachusetts Health Overhaul To Double Over Three Years

Enrollment and costs for Commonwealth Care, Massachusetts’ subsidized health insurance program, are expected to double by June 2011, the Boston Globe reports.

The growth “would far outstrip the original plans” for the program, mainly because state officials underestimated the number of residents without health insurance, the Globe reports. Commonwealth Care provides no-cost or subsidized health care coverage to state residents who do not qualify for MassHealth, the state’s Medicaid program, and do not have access to employer-sponsored health insurance.

When the program was authorized in 2006, the state Legislature projected total eventual enrollment of 215,000 people at a cost of $725 million annually, but officials in late 2006 reduced the estimate to between 140,000 and 160,000.

However, state projections obtained by the Globe estimate enrollment of 342,000 people at a cost of $1.35 billion annually within three years. Currently, about 169,000 residents are enrolled in the program.

Total spending on the state’s health care initiative will equal $1.95 billion this year, with just less than half being funded by the federal government. Two unforeseen problems have contributed to the funding shortfall:

• The state had expected to shift money from no-cost care for the uninsured to insurance subsidies, but the decline in charity care has been slower than expected; and

• The state had expected to collect tens of millions of dollars from the penalty on businesses that do not offer health coverage to workers, but it expects to collect about $5 million this year.

Ohh…the interview get’s even more mind numbingly asinine from there when Romney says the following:

There is no government option in Massachusetts: there is simply the availability of the various insurance programs that are offered by the private market-based insurance companies doing business in the state. So if people were happy with the system they had, and the insurance they had, rather, then they are certainly welcome to keep that, and if people who are coming into the system want to choose a plan, they are given access to all of those available in the state.

This is simply an out and out lie, if not a distortion of the facts worthy of the most slick and polished used care salesman. I remember Romney hitting Giuliani and McCain with his cute statement that “Facts are stubborn things”…well Mitt…here are some facts for you!

The reform law authorized the development of an independent state agency, known as the Connector, to implement the reform. The Connector offers a menu of insurance options and serves as an intermediary to assist individuals in acquiring health coverage. It manages two similarly named but different health insurance programs, Commonwealth Care and Commonwealth Choice…..

In addition to managing these two programs, the Connector is charged with developing several policy and regulatory components of reform. Among its most important policy tasks are the establishment of the benefits packages and premium contribution schedules for the Commonwealth Care program, the development of regulations defining what constitutes coverage for purposes of the mandate, and the construction of affordability guidelines.

Well…OK…Technically it’s not a lie because maybe Romney didn’t set up a “government option” but it set up a government agency that dictates what options would be available and what insurance customers are allowed to purchase or face fines for not purchasing them!

In the last three years the “Connecter” has virtually eliminated competition in the insurance market mandating coverage that must be provided amongst insurance companies which has increased the cost of premiums and added to the control of the state over the market. In addition, the state has had to slash spending for health care in its network of “Safety-Net”, (read public), hospitals.

Escalating Costs Make the Reform Unsustainable
The reform has been more expensive than expected (as shown below), costing $1.1 billion in fiscal 2008 and $1.3 billion in fiscal 2009. The plan does nothing to control skyrocketing healthcare costs. Even before the health reform, health costs in Massachusetts were among the highest in the world, approximately 25% higher than the U.S. average.
Since the reform’s passage, premiums have continued to escalate. The costs for the four (subsidized) Commonwealth Care plans rose 9.4 % in 2009, significantly higher than increases in inflation or wages.
The health reform has actually increased administrative costs and waste, already a major cause of high health care costs in the U.S. The Connector adds an additional 4.5% administrative cost to each policy it brokers. This is on top of the overhead of individual insurance plans, an average of at least 10%.

There is so much I could throw it this fool I can’t find the time, the room, or the organization to put it all together…but I’ll leave it at this!

Romney toots his horn about how his pet project has controlled costs, provided universal coverage, (though there are still 3% to 5% of Mass’s citizens still uninsured), and all at no additional cost and then throws out this pile of white washed excrement!

Then there’s another issue, however, and that’s the fact that the cost of health care, generally in Massachusetts, like the rest of the nation, continues to rise at a very high rat. Health care inflation in America is very, very high. In Massachusetts, it’s higher than average even. That is not something which we were able to deal with at the state level, and, in my view, that’s something that can be dealt with in Washington in part because the federal government sends out Medicare and Medicaid, which comprise about 50% of all health care spending in this country.

Umm…excuse me Governor…but wasn’t the whole point of this fiasco to control the rise in costs…yet rates are still raising at a very high rate? By the way…according to several studies, costs are rising in Massachusetts at a faster rate than any other state in the union! So what did you really accomplish with your little foray into socialized medicine and central planning? with this you actually want to explain away your plan’s inability to control the rise in health care costs because health care costs are rising to fast?…uhh…OK?!

The Human Events interview goes way beyond what I’ve covered here and I’d encourage everyone here to read it…especially those who want to cling to the notion that Romney is a fiscal conservative. This interview proves what I’ve said all along…Romney isn’t ashamed of his big government health care solution for Massachusetts. In fact…he’s proud of it. From Mass-Care, to his call for a Detroit Bailout and on and on he has proven he is anything but a small government fiscal conservative and if he had a chance, he’d proudly enslave us all in a government health care bureaucracy by signing legislation with a Republican stamp of approval on it!



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As an addenda to your diary

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 7:06PM EDT (link)

I wrote one earlier today that has some additional info.
As well as debunking the 47 Million Uninsured claim.
That is the biggest lie of the whole Health Care debate.

http://www.redstate.com/izoneguy/2009/07/31/i-think-mitt-romney-needs-a-brain-scan/

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Thaks for the Data...I left so much on the table from his interview...I may do a part 2

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 7:18PM EDT (link)

How anyone i the Republican Party could stand up with pride and admit they had anything to do with Mass Care is beyond me!

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Hear, Hear...RomneyCare is a disaster and so is the ObamaCare concept

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 7:23PM EDT (link)

Operation EMBARRASS YOUR CONGRESSMAN has officially started and is ON FIRE!

http://www.operationembarrassyourcongressman.com/

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Yes, forcing of all citizens to buy insurance or be taxed

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:16PM EDT (link)

was flawed. What we need is

interstate ins competition
tax credits for ins policies and
national tort reform

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

And focus on high-deductable insurance

David123 (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:27PM EDT (link)

I don’t call my homeowners insurance when a lightbulb burns out – I buy myself a new lightbulb.

Insurance is supposed to insure you from really bad things, not routine problems

David123

I agree but why do we need the gov to step in

mom2oneson (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:53PM EDT (link)

that is already available for a low cost.

The problem is how many people my age think. The think you are getting a bad deal since if you won’t use what you pay. (roll my eyes)They don’t see insurance as something that you don’t want to win at getting more out of. They don’t see it as protection of their home or savings account or a way to pay huge hospital bills if something expensive happened. It’s really fustrating to talk to them sometimes.

I think we need more primary care for adults that is actually affordable $40 for an office visit and only $20 required up front that take cash only, no gov reimbursement. I can’t stand the way this gov programs make things skyrocket. Most people can come up with $20. Like someone said on here it should be whatever the free market dictates but I needed a figure.

Here's one I ran accroos whi researching for this post...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 10:06PM EDT (link)

There is a proposal in Mass now to do away with the fee for service altogether and pay doctors a flat fee for their patient’s care…

Of course they haven’t worried about the obvious fatal flaw in that idea…and that is the Doctor get’s paid the same no matter how many times he sees his patient…

Talk about an insentive to over use the system!..Hey…I paid my $1000 so why shouldn’t I go see my doctor every other day!

There’ll be huge saving in that won’t there?

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Ace I'm not sure

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 9:24AM EDT (link)

but I think some private insurance companies already work with primary care. They get a monthly fee and then a co-pay if the patient visits but I’m not sure, I could be wrong. I learned in class no real life experience about it so I could be wrong.

true...but the whole system isn't structured that way

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 11:50AM EDT (link)

My understanding is the whole Mass structure will be set up as a pre pay system so the doctor gets paid once no matter how many office visits the patient makes…

it’s another pressure on the system because more and more people will make appointments for less and less serious reasons because it will cost them nothing and in their mind “It’s been paid for already…why shouldn’t I go any time I want?”

MarkTwain 3

 
 
 
 

yes, that is another major area of reform we need - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 9:29PM EDT (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 

Making payment easier should be added to that list as well

sharkzfan (Diary) Saturday, August 1st at 12:30AM EDT (link)

Why not allow people to pay for routine physicals and prescriptions out of pocket e.g. Cash/Check/Credit Card? This would certainly create greater access to health care by lowering the initial cost of entry so to speak, which, as I understand it, is one of the “goals” of obamascare.

 
 

Yes, forcing of all citizens to buy insurance or be taxed

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:16PM EDT (link)

was flawed. What we need is

interstate ins competition
tax credits for ins policies and
national tort reform

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 

will study and comment when I deem myself sufficiently informed - more later - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 7:28PM EDT (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 
 

The frontrunner for the Conservative movement

Scope (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:02PM EDT (link)

Didn’t we all prove him to be a Conservative only when it benefits him, and, what audience he has in front of him at the time. Crap, he was as bad a candidate as McCain, he just had better looks, and, mopre money. I do believe that many will not go for a has been, no matter how much money he has. Jason Chafetz proved that money isn’t the ticket to Congress.

He leads in the polls and Ingraham and Limbaugh were pushing him after the primaries as the likely guy in 2012

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:09PM EDT (link)

There’s no doubt he’s an empty suit and a flim flam man…but he’s out front now and I believe the establishment will be behind him in 12.

I’ve said for a year now that I think he cut a deal with the Party bosses to step aside for McCain at the CPAC convention in return for their backing in 12.

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The frontrunner for the Conservative movement

Scope (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:02PM EDT (link)

Didn’t we all prove him to be a Conservative only when it benefits him, and, what audience he has in front of him at the time. Crap, he was as bad a candidate as McCain, he just had better looks, and, mopre money. I do believe that many will not go for a has been, no matter how much money he has. Jason Chafetz proved that money isn’t the ticket to Congress.

 

To play devil's advocate...

sharkzfan (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:05PM EDT (link)

…He did have an overwhelmingly (D) legislature he had to work with, and his primary job as Governor should have been (if it wasn’t) to govern the people of MA the way the people of MA wanted to be governed. The people of Massachussets wanted Universal/Single Payer health care, so they got the slightly less objectionable Romney-Care.

At the end of the day though, there is no real defense to be made for Romney-Care, and no real difference (based on my understanding of the two) between Romney-Care and Obama-Care. Mitt Romney will NOT be getting vote in 2012.

oops...

sharkzfan (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:07PM EDT (link)

meant to say “my vote in 2012.”

 

That dog won't hunt for the sake of this discussion because we're not talking about what he did or was forced to do...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:11PM EDT (link)

it’s about his statements and bragging today about what he did and how good it would be for the country!

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But now Romney is stepping up saying

izoneguy (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:12PM EDT (link)

how great RomneyCare is – when it is not.

I have had enough of reaching over the aisle.

The Republicans have only been bending over.

Don’t the idiots in Washington see what is really going on?

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

 

sharkzfan- We all ready tried that

Scope (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:30PM EDT (link)

McCain could not have been more “moderate”. I am sick and damn tired of the people who keep pushing the “well only the moderate R’s can win in the Liberal areas.” We unfortunately have not had Conservatives run in those areas because of your squishy attitude. But wait, if I buy your product, I can get the gratey as well as the slap chop, if I pay for the additional postage.

scope - I think you're overreacting

sharkzfan (Diary) Saturday, August 1st at 12:13AM EDT (link)

That is not my position at all. Read what I wrote in the last paragraph of my original comment. For the record, this HR 3200 bill horrifies me more and more everyday as I learn more and more about through sites such as RS and Hotair and talk radio.

I understand your position

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 8:52AM EDT (link)

that you don’t think Romney care is a good thing. When you said that he governed Mass. the way the people wanted to be governed, and they wanted a single payer healthcare system, if Romney was the Conservative that he claims to be, he would have told the people of Mass. that he could not break the principles of smaller government, and less government involvement. He could have told the people of Mass. that they would need to elect another Governor that would abide by their wishes. Instead, he crossed over the aisle, and, signed into law something that goes against even the most basic Conservative principles, less government. If he is the business genius that he is purported to be, he could have come up with other options that didn’t involve state run socialized healthcare. Now that it has been proven a failure, he stupidly gets on TV and says that it is a success. It seems that Romney believes the common folk to be as dumb as the Liberals do.

Kowalski

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 9:00AM EDT (link)

In the Fox interview with Romney, if I am not mistaken, Romnet started out lecturing Obama that people wanted less Government. In that same interview is when he said that Romney Care is a success. Someone here commented that Obama would eat Romney up. That interview proves that to be true.

 

Romney is no conservative I agree

sharkzfan (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 2:58PM EDT (link)

Let’s recognize him for what he is – a political chameleon who thinks he can dupe the hoi polloi into believing he is something that he isn’t – and move on and find the next fiscally conservative candidate to rally around for 2012. I know, I know we haven’t even been through 2010 and the gubernatorial and special elections of 2009 and so it’s too early to start talking about 2012, but this is a topic that IMO should be floated now so we can have some idea of who to rally around during the primaries.

 
 
 
 

sharkzfan- We all ready tried that

Scope (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:30PM EDT (link)

McCain could not have been more “moderate”. I am sick and damn tired of the people who keep pushing the “well only the moderate R’s can win in the Liberal areas.” We unfortunately have not had Conservatives run in those areas because of your squishy attitude. But wait, if I buy your product, I can get the gratey as well as the slap chop, if I pay for the additional postage.

 
 

2-hit jobs to the Most Illustrious and Deserving R Nominee in 2012?

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 8:49PM EDT (link)

Why do I feel that you and izoneguy are already bordering into “colloquy” against the Most Liked and Trusted Conservative in the Beltway?

The two of you missed the point: Romney is more centered/non-divisive Republican. His Op-Ed indicates that:

1. He has a diction and tone acceptable to the Republican Gurus and to the MSM.
2. He’s expert in Health Care with his MA model..
3. He’s teaching (mind you, a mentor to another a supreme being) Obama how to Socialize Health Care in a very bipartisan way.

I SAY:

Obama/Romney in 2012!!!!!!!!

Bush and McCain’s dreams of bipartisanship will be fulfilled.

The Winning Path for the Republican Party (Noonan and Frum will be so happy!)

Peace in America at long last.

Very Reaganesque, don’t you think? (Both admire Reagan, their handlers claim.)

LOL...Why of course...you're right...Who are we mere mortals so question the ONE and Mister Fantastic the incredible elastinc stretchy guy...ROFL nt

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 10:00PM EDT (link)

Because Obama will eat Romney for breakfast

izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 1:14AM EDT (link)

The presidential election in 2012 would be over in May if Romney is the Republican pick. And there will be plenty of democrats pulling for him. Just like they did with McShame.

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

Discredited recession ravaged liberal democrats have no teeth to chew any Republican

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 2:23AM EDT (link)

even Romneys.

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Gamecock- That's my fear!

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:29PM EDT (link)

The moderate elitists and the inside the beltway crowd seem to have already chosen our next candidate, just as they did with McCain.

Little story- Back when I was the Financial Manager of a very prestigious , old money Country Club, just outside of Princeton, NJ, it was time for elections of the next incoming Board of Directors. The Treasurer, my boss, who was not running for re-election and I had a little chat. They had already chosen the next Treasurer, and, I asked what would happen if he was not elected by the members. He said that they had “ways” to insure that the chosen one would be the next Treasurer. The conversation ended there, and, I never found out what those “ways” were. The chosen one was in fact elected by the membership. Unrelated interesting side-note- the Secretary elected was the son of Jesse Helms, who I believe was a former head of the FBI. When someone or someones want to make something happen, they usually do, and it is all behind the curtains.

 
 

izoneguy- Touche

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:46PM EDT (link)

izoneguy- Touche

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:46PM EDT (link)
 
 

Rod- I just spit my beer out

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:11PM EDT (link)

laughing at Obama/Romney 2012. I must stop getting a chill with the first sentence or two in someone’s comment, and, have more faith that my fellow Redstaters are very very good at snark.

Oops

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:17PM EDT (link)

Sorry.

But save your beer, bro! And don’t drink fast. Lavish the taste and the chill. You’re still uninvited in the WH for a beerfest.

No free beer for you…. yet!

Cheers!

And no free beer for me, Crawley or Gates at the WH

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:39PM EDT (link)

Didn’t you read where Obama is charging the CEO’s he invites for WH lunches? There was a recent story about 4 CEO’s being asked for their credit cards during lunch. They must have been against his Obamacare plans, wanted to pay back their bank bailout loans, or some other nonsense. I would bet that the beer fest was a BYOB.

Sandy

 
 
 

Rod- I just spit my beer out

Scope (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:11PM EDT (link)

laughing at Obama/Romney 2012. I must stop getting a chill with the first sentence or two in someone’s comment, and, have more faith that my fellow Redstaters are very very good at snark.

 
 

A diary that's a good excuse for posting the LEGO healthcare vid again....

Xasteius (Diary) Friday, July 31st at 10:10PM EDT (link)

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

The only poll that counts is the one at the ballot box.

I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be a Chance/Soros hybrid.

GOOD VIDEO, Xasteius!

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Saturday, August 1st at 2:21PM EDT (link)

Can you edit the video and use Alaska instead of MA?

Alaskan Republicans won’t mind at all. Just blame it to Palin. She’s politically dead anyway.

Don’t worry about the truth. Dimwits are not very particular with data integrity. Their hate of Palin might shift gear towards Obamacare.

Can you edit your post to indicate you have a brain?

Achance (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 9:06AM EDT (link)

If you want Sarah Palin, invite her to be governor of your state. Most here think that July 27th was a VERY good day for Alaska.

In Vino Veritas

Oops

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 5:21PM EDT (link)

I forgot. There are TRUE and BRAINY Alaskan republicans here.

Sorry, Xasteius. Disregard my suggestion. he he!

 

Most?

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 3:38PM EDT (link)

I seriously doubt it’s most Alaskans…I’m assuming you mean most in your circle for friends?

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The real focus should be on repealing EMTALA

cclive Sunday, August 2nd at 1:10AM EDT (link)

or at the very least remove the Medicare and Medicaid stipulations. Forcing private hospitals to provide expensive care to people who can’t pay for it is just plain crazy. Should Best Buy be forced to give 50″ plasma screens to anyone who asks and then not get paid?!

Should Best Buy be forced to give 50? plasma screens to anyone who asks and then not get paid?!

izoneguy (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 1:17AM EDT (link)

Isn’t this the goal of Obama? He is already cutting deals on Government Motors cars.

Those who had once simpered: “I don’t want to destroy the rich, I only want to seize a little of their surplus to help the poor, just a little, they’ll never miss it!” – then, later, had snapped: “The tycoons can stand being squeezed; they’ve amassed enough to last them for three generations” – then, later, had yelled: “Why should the people suffer while businessmen have reserves to last a year?” – now were screaming: “Why should we starve while some people have reserves to last a week?” – Atlas Shrugged

I don't know probably but for hospitals

cclive Sunday, August 2nd at 1:27AM EDT (link)

Its the requirement under EMTALA which was passed in the 1980s its already in existence!!! It forces private hospitals to provide care to people who will not pay them. Don’t you think we should focus on repealing that?

I think it's only if they accept medicare and it's only

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, August 2nd at 9:26AM EDT (link)

screening and then care for emergency medical needs or active labor.

If a hospital accepts Medicare or Medicaid

cclive Sunday, August 2nd at 5:42PM EDT (link)

they have to provide service to people who can’t pay. Its NOT just emergency care though, it is until a patient is stable and can take care of themselves. I’ll ask again, shouldn’t real healh care reform begin with repealing this? How can we allow government to force a business to give goods and services away for free and expect them to be competitive in the open market?!

Good point...and Republicans should be making the case that the problems with the Health care system began with Medicare and Medicade...

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 12:05PM EDT (link)

and the anti market mandates of free care and the cost shifting that happens as a result of the Medicare by law paying less for services and supplies than they cost all coupled with the myriad of forms that have to be completed before a simple aspirin can be administered…

Of course…they won’t make the case because they’re so busy being bipartisan and not trying to be called bad names by the so called objective press!

MarkTwain 3

 
 
 
 

Ohahaha...do we have a "Cash for junk TVs" in our future? nt

AceInTX (Diary) Monday, August 3rd at 11:59AM EDT (link)