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Snowe Votes For Federal Fines And Jail For Individual Citizens Who Refuse To Purchase Health Insurance

So…if you’re down to your last $500 and have to chose between buying groceries for your kids and keeping the heat on OR purchasing a FEDERALLY mandated health insurance plan….Olympia Snowe wants to fine you $1900 if you decide to stay warm and eat as opposed to sending your money to a federally approved insurance plan.

Of Course…it doesn’t stop there….because if you don’t pay the $1900 fine because you spent your last $500 buying food and shelter…the good Senator has decided you should face one year in federal prison and $25,000 in fines….God only knows how someone who couldn’t afford to pay for a $500 insurance premium or a $1900 fine after that is supposed to pay an additional $25,000….and I can only assume there would be a potential for additional jail time for refusing to pay the $25,000…but one could go on and on from there.

But who are we to worry ourselves about all this because Senator Snowe has decided she knows best how individual citizens should spend their hard earned dollars and sees no reason to bother herself with that pesky Constitution which she swore to uphold and defend against “ALL enemies; both foreign and DOMESTIC“.

There is no thought or consideration as to whether the FEDERAL government SHOULD be telling people how to live their lives on the most basic level let alone whether it has the AUTHORITY under the Constitution to do so. Her imperial proclivity to foist a big government nanny state government bureaucracy on Texas from the wintry wonderland of Main coupled with her sycophantic desire to be bigger than the rest of flyover country with her “BIPARTISANSHIP” is all that matters here.

And for everyone last week who was jumping up and down congratulating each other because she decided to act like a Republican for a change and speak out against a public option…where are you now? Do you really think we’re not going to get our public option if she has her way?

Think again….let’s not forget…she’s the genius behind the “trigger” option that would stop a public option now….yet would implement it later “should it become necessary”….of course NONE of the geniuses out there from Rush, to Hannity, to Beck and the rest of the “conservative” talking heads have ever put it together that this is a ploy which will tamp down everyone’s objection to HCR in the short term because we’re all supposed to think the public option is dead. Yet see it enacted over the long term because….Once enacted…the whole thing is already set up to be implemented without any Senator or Congressperson having their fingerprints on it and without the people being able to object because it will be implemented automatically once the inevitable trigger is pulled.

BTW…I read yesterday and can’t find the link….that Harry Reid is posing about giving up on a public option and has now signed off on Snowe’s idea for a trigger and Co Ops and is praising her for bringing them to the table.

No doubt, a couple of months or maybe years hence…we’ll all be looking around staring death panels and rationing in the face…losing our private insurance and being forced into a public health option all the while looking for someone to blame…and the clowns in DC will be shrugging their shoulders telling us it wasn’t their fault…it was already in the law…and it was the last Congress that screwed us all! Of course…I and many like me will be saying…I told you so” and pointing the finger at Snowe where the blame lies…and the establishment will be looking down their noses at us because we couldn’t possibly know better than they, since we didn’t go to Harvard or Yale…Oh…and besides…nothing else matters beyond having another seat with an R on it no matter the fact it means nothing when it comes to actually governing…“Winning” is all that matters don’t you know?

Finally…please spare me the sanctimonious crap about how I prefer to attack Republicans over Democrats which is an over simplification…The issue is…I expect more out of Republicans than Democrats and I’m outraged when people do crap like this when they should darned well know better!

I just can’t figure out for the life of me what we gain by having Snowe doing this because with her…even when we win…WE LOSE!

Cross Posted at The Minority Report

COMMENTS

  • BlackConservative

    They pull stuff like this, and give the socialists enough cover to call the dog manure that they wiped on paper a bi-partisan bill. And for some reason all of us are supposed to jump up and down and be so grateful that we have Republicans holding these seats. And for what? Oh thank you so much Senator Snowe, you give our enemies cover on everything from national security to the War on Terror (yes I’m still calling it that, whether or not Obama and his Gestapo have banned the terminology) to now of course, socialized healthcare. Yet we are supposed to clap our hands like happy seals, because gee whilikers, at least they are Republicans. We sure can always count on the moderates to screw us in the end. Yeah Ace, it feels good to be back. I’ll be around more now. It’s on.

    • AceInTX

      You sum it all up as well as it can be said…

      Bravo

    • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

      But yeah you and me an Ace see it the same way, better not to have people like Snowe in the party, or if they simply must run as republicans, then so be it, but no appointments or party positions for them.

      As far as it helping us get to a majority, well, that didn’t really do us any good because whenever something came up that they disagree with they just turned us over to the democrats.

      • BlackConservative

        Got my two boys good and entrenched, baptism coming up this week, and still working on getting a job within the MIGOP. Hoping to do some work for Cox as he could win since the Demmies here have driven the state so far into the ground a Republican doesn’t sound like the kiss of death that it usually is in Michigan. My plan is to have all the bums out by 2012, GOP and Dem alike.

  • bk

    is that Reid still cares about Snowe now that they have newly minted Senator Kirk from Mass. I guess Byrd must be in bad shape, but not bad enough to die quite yet.

  • penguin2

    That’s what we are talking about. From what I recall from history lessons, debtors’ prisons were common until the mid 1800′s. People were thrown into prison for unpaid debts and fines, and would languish for years unless their families could pay. Many died in prison. In the U.S. one can go to jail for unpaid fines. If the healthcare legislation incorporates fines and penalties for not buying health insurance, we will see a prison population explosion.

    read about here

    • Scope

      or will they be using some stimulus money for shovel ready jail building projects?

    • Scope

      or will they be using some stimulus money for shovel ready jail building projects?

    • clowngirl

      The government’s idea of what is “affordable” and that of citizens has been known to vary. Expenses are not taken into account.

  • bk

    If you just collect the extra taxes and provide “free” single-payer health care for all, then you’ve gotten around the little Constitutional issue of forcing people to purchase health insurance and have eliminated the need to send them to jail if they don’t. You just send them to jail if they don’t pay the extra taxes. VOILA!

    • AceInTX
  • mom2oneson
    • AceInTX

      because once we all face the fines…half or mor will be begging the Government to just give it to us so we can just spend our money the way we want…

      This is the way the Dems attack a problem from six different angles…

      It’s like heading cattle…you have hands pushing them from every angle into one single direction…keep em moving the way you want em and keep pushing the stragglers from the edges when they tru to avoid the chute!

      • mom2oneson

        that and when everyone has it prices will jump up so high like they have done now with pediatricians. Most everyone has SCHIP or health insurance or medicaid. One topic I never see discussed is how gov programs hurt the poor the most that don’t want to use public assitance by driving up prices and messing with free market solutions that would naturally happen when there is a demand for lower price this or that. I’ve seen this with food and with housing.
        I’ve never herded cattle but I know about trying to get several cats in one room and if they are anything like cats LOL I agree!

    • Common_Cents

      unearned tax credits to the poor will solve any issues. Redistribution of wealth.

      • AceInTX
  • Scope

    She is one of 5 Republicans that have voted for every big spending bill passed in the Obama Admin. Whenever Snowe says she is against anything in the Liberal bills in Congress, her nose grows at the same rate as Obamas. Snowe makes a few noises now and again, just to remind she has an R behind her name, and to get a few lousy dollars for her state, all the while being complicit in the destruction of the country. It’s like you said Ace, it’s all about winning at any cost for some of the R’s. Snowe, among others, is the direct result of that strategy, and amazingly there are still some that believe if you get one good vote out of an R you are ahead. The mood of the country is chaging, and there is as much screaming about the RINOS as the Progressives. Here in VA, McDonnell is leading with the Independents by 22%, and he didn’t run to the middle to woe them.

    • benty

      They are Liberals, not conervatives.

      • Scope

        in Arizona think McCain is out of touch with the party.

        • nessa
        • AceInTX

          Don’t ya just love this foolishness?

          • Scope

            that no one will touch the old fartbag. Heck he’s even willing to trade him for the Snowejob. Might be why no one will primary him, hence, Simcox.

          • AceInTX

            but it’s worse because no one will challenge him

          • Scope

            that no one will touch the old fartbag. Heck he’s even willing to trade him for the Snowejob. Might be why no one will primary him, hence, Simcox.

      • Scope

        in Arizona think McCain is out of touch with the party.

  • AceInTX

    we’re all pitchfork wielding peasants that are an embarrassment to the Powers in our Party. We are a necessary evil who exists only to fund the campaigns of those who wouldn’t piss on us if we were on fire. Our whole roll and duty is to vote for our betters and shut up from there.

    If that’s not it…then I can’t explain their behavior because we’ve followed the same losing strategy for 70 years with a few exceptions with Reagan…and after the two worse elections in a row this party has ever faced…we’re doubling down and pouring on the gas…

    I’m so frustrated I can’t breath right now looking at this!

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Cornyn’s dereliction of duty is not random. There is a calculated attempt going on here to turn the NRSC into a platform for recriminations over the 2006 and 2008 elections.

      • AceInTX

        blind hogs finding acorns…etc…LOL

        Seriously Neil…We’re not that far off from each other…I just get more bent out of shape about Republicans who I expect to know better…and have a higher expectation of…

      • AceInTX

        There is a calculated attempt going on here to turn the NRSC into a platform for recriminations over the 2006 and 2008 elections.

        either that or they just can’t believe that they could have been wrong in 06 and 08 and they are terrified of giving conservatives a chance to prove they were wrong…there seems to be an almost frantic-ness amongst them and a desperation to avoid letting conservatives prove their pet theories wrong!

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      Just select cells, such as the NRSC.

      • AceInTX

        That’s why I put on the qualifiers of “Establishment”, “Leadership”, “Power Pimps”….etc

        You don’t see me going off every day about the NRCC since I think they’re doing OK…I’d like to see more promotion of ideas and brand from them…but at least they’re not actively working against us…ditto the RNC…

        My beef is with the NRSC…the State Parties, the RMSP and like groups…and those Republicans on the left who are ACTIVELY working to undermine the party and it’s base!

        • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

          Don’t call out “the establishment.” Call out the people doing harm.

          Do the research. Know the people. Name them and shame them.

          • AceInTX

            I’m not a part of the “establishment” neither are most Conservatives…I am defining the bad actors by using the terms I use…

            I can agree with you and do about saying, “The Republican Party Sucks” for instance…that’s attacking the Party.

            But if I attack “The Establishment” I’m singling out a specific part of the party…they are a minority of the party who control and run things starting with the state party apparatus and use that power base to control the national apparatus…My issue and frustration has always been that we have about 10% to 15% of this party who controls and lord’s it over the other 85% to 90% of the party because the “establishment” stays engaged during the off years and during mid term election cycles while the vast majority of conservatives get active for 8 months out of every 4 years and then go back to living their lives.

            I’ve always agreed with you when you tell folks they need to get out and take over their precincts and use that to get involved at the district…then state levels…it’s the only way we’ll ever control the national party. so we agree on far more than you seem to be willing to acknowledge….I think the rub comes between us in that I won’t criticize the Democrats for doing something or pushing for a certain agenda…while turning a blind eye to Republicans who are doing the same thing and pushing the same agenda.

            As for calling people out by name…and shaming them after doing the research…that is what I try to do…this piece is an example of where I’m doing just that.

      • AceInTX

        I’ve always countered the “purist” argument with that very point…

        Where I do fault the party as a whole is in allowing the RMSP and the Snowe’s, Specters, Chafees etc as well as the NRSC to work their mischief without challenging them…and for attacking those of us who do wish to hold those bad actors as “Purists” and other vile crap.

      • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics

        I know that we can’t cleanse the party.

        So welcome to the bipartisan Obamacare.

    • BlackConservative

      We the people are not good enough for the moderates in party leadership who are more content with maintaining power and “order” than making actual leadership changes that they might actually have to be accountable for. We have ceased to be the party of ideas because the powers that be in DC are more concerned with their own electoral aspirations or maintaining their own grip on power so that they are unwilling to take the next step. And look at the fundraising-the Party backs the turncoats like Specter, Chafee, Collins and Snowe, and writes off the good conservatives like Santorum and Allen. We are good when we are good publicity, slaves good enough to work for the system but not good enough to get in the house and eat at their table. I say throw everyone out. Replace the socialists and liberals with conservatives. Throw all the bums out!

      • AceInTX

        throw everyone out. Replace the socialists and liberals with conservatives.

        By all means…throw ALL the bums out…let’s just make sure it’s only the bums that get thrown out! We can’t afford to burn the house down around the family in order to get rid of the termites!

      • Scope

        when the same idiot constituients keep voting for the same idiots in Congress? Snowe, for example, didn’t just turn to the left recently. How far left does she have to go before the voters she represents finally say enough is enough? At this point she should just be honest and honor her neighbor Sanders, in becoming a member of the Socialist Party. She already votes that way. Republican Senators like her and McPuke make for a great argument for term limits.

      • Scope

        when the same idiot constituients keep voting for the same idiots in Congress? Snowe, for example, didn’t just turn to the left recently. How far left does she have to go before the voters she represents finally say enough is enough? At this point she should just be honest and honor her neighbor Sanders, in becoming a member of the Socialist Party. She already votes that way. Republican Senators like her and McPuke make for a great argument for term limits.

        • BlackConservative

          Which is fine with me. I just wish she would pull a Specter, call yourself a Democrat since thats how you vote and be done with it. Stop soiling the GOP mantel with your socialism. The Maine voters think they have coverage and are bi-partisan when they are just voting for liberals with Rs next to their names. They give bi-partisan cover to the liberals and get cover for their own re election as moderates. I’m tired of being used!

    • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

      I suspect this fella in SC won’t be getting any support from the “powers that be” in the national Republican organizations that dole out dough to “worthy” candidates.

      Embedded video from CNN Video

      In case the embed did not work, go here:

      http://www.breitbart.tv/machine-gun-social-gop-candidate-offers-ak-47-in-fundraising-sweepstakes/

      Thank you.

      ColdWarrior

      www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    That’s why we conservatives have to change the leadership. How is that accomplished? The only way is to achieve a majority of conservatives in the voting ranks of the Party. Are you one of those conservatives. If not, you best become one. NOW.

    “We the [conservative] people” have a golden opportunity to take over the voting ranks of the Party, the precinct committeeman ranks, overnight if enough of us would just do it. 50 per cent of the Party PC slots nationwide are empty. There’s about a 50-50 split in those slots that are filled. That spit is reflected in the leadership of the Party and the kinds of “Dem Lite” Republicans who win the primaries who then go on to get creamed by the real thing in the general elections.

    If we conservatives flocked into the Party in droves to fill up the vacant PC slots, that 50-50 ratio would turn into a 75-25 ratio in favor of conservatives. And we could endorse the best conservative candidates in the Republican primaries.

    Better become a PC now — in some states the deadline for becoming a PC for the next round of leadership elections is fast approaching.

    Go to these links to read more:

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/09/24/new-york-republicans-put-up-acorn-backed-candidate-in-ny-23/#comment-33531

    http://www.redstate.com/mikerobinsonpc/2009/09/27/romanoff-makes-obama-magic-disappear-in-%E2%80%9Cuntouchable%E2%80%9D-douglas-county/#comment-4

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

    www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

  • The_Gadfly

    You need to delete Rush and Beck from your rant list. I’ve heard both of them arguing against the trigger on their respective programs. Beck in particular is emphatic that there be NO healthcare legislation this session. He has repeatedly said it is so fubarred there is no way to disentangle it even if the proposed legislation were posted on the internet immediately and the vote were held on the last day of the current session. I haven’t caught much of Hannity lately, so I can’t vigorously defend him, but would find it difficult to believe he isn’t speaking against the trigger provision as well.

    • AceInTX

      and I’m not ranting against them…I’m belittling them because they don’t drive this point home…this trigger stuff serves two purposes…I here them explaining one…but they leave the larger point un said…

      The MAIN part of the trigger option is to settle us down an make us think we WON!….but what they are really doing is, guaranteeing these provisions are law at the moment they pass since the event activating the trigger is inevitable…without having their fingerprints on it…they’re not kicking the can down the road…they’re kicking a grenade down the road so it will explode somewhere else….so no-one else knows they’re the ones who kicked it there!

      • AceInTX

        I agree with them on substance whole heatedly.

        I follow Beck, Ingraham, and Limbaugh on mp3 and don’t miss an episode…I quit listening to Hannity because I just got tired of him repeating himself ad infinitum…he’s like s skipping record if you listen to him every day…

        my criticism is that they don’t spend enough time explaining what the trigger is, and what it does…as well as the reason politicians who wan to avoid blame love it so much.

        It’s not enough to say Oppose the trigger because it doesn’t say anything about what the trigger is, what it does, why it’s so dangerous, and how deceitful it is from it’s inception….the whole idea of a trigger on any legislation has the same purpose…to temp down opposition to the provision and to set it up in the law to be implemented later with out the need for another vote for the weasels pushing unpopular legislation down our throats…it’s something I knew was wrong instinctively…but the magnitude of the deception, slight of hand, lies and underhandedness always escaped me till I stopped one day a couple weeks ago and thought it through down to it’s most insidious level…

        Legislators who use this device in my mind are the lowest of the low…they are the most despicable slithering worms I can think of…and the personalities I’m taking a backhand slap at haven’t done a good enough job of pointing this out IMHO…and my slap has nothing to do with my agreement on 99.999% of things they are about…it’s a critique on what they are leaving out…not what they say….no more…no less

  • baserunr

    of whether or not the Imperial Federal Government even has the authority to force such onerous regulations on the populace. I contend that the Constitution affords them no such ability, and HOPE for the Supreme Court to invalidate such nonsense when it becomes law. (But McCain-Feingold rears its ugly head…)
    Suppose a doctor decides not to accept this wonderful “Universal” insurance when seeing patients. Will he have that right? Will he be clapped in irons and hauled away? Will he be forced to accept insurance, just as everyone is forced to purchase it? What about a hospital? What if they refuse? Will we send administrators to prison? This is not a slippery slope, its a waterslide….

    • AceInTX

      in my mind as to whether the cental government in the rotting cess pool of foggy bottom should be able to tell an individual how he or she must spend his or her family resources before being subjected to federally mandated fines followed by criminal and civil fines and imprisonment if they don’t….

      I can’t think of anything going clear back to the Magna Carta in english common law and western juris prudence that is more antithetical to liberty than the idea of an all powerfull government telling me how I must spend my money after I’ve earned it by the sweat of my own brow!

      • AceInTX
      • baserunr

        So the Government is going to force me, at the point of a gun, to buy a product from a company, or them, that I don’t want, don’t need, and maybe can’t even pay for? I saw some nitwit liberal (is there any other kind?) on TV last night saying that this provision would never be enforced, it’s only there because Congress is populated by idiots.
        Aside from being obvious, how does that inspire confidence that this legislation will “fix” the health care coverage “problem”? And if it is not going to be enforced, then why is it even there? Its there for a reason; namely, that the young must be forced to buy insurance and subsidize the old.

        • AceInTX
  • DavidS1787

    There has to be a better Republican candidate for U.S. Senate than her!

    • mbecker908

      I would happily trade my Senator for Ms. Snowe.

      • AceInTX
        • mbecker908

          Arizona.

          And I’ll say again, Snowe (and Collins) haven’t done any real or lasting damage to either the country or the party in their combined tenure. They aren’t leaders, they have little or no say in policy and their votes, while I don’t like many of them, typically make no difference.

          McCain, on the other hand…

          And yes, I’m serious as a heart attack, I’d happily take either of the ME Girls over McCain.

          • AceInTX

            and you make a good point about McCain….but I’d be happier without any of them because I don’t see what they add to the mix aside from procedural votes…and even in that I don’t think they’ve been all that loyal…I think it was Chafee and Jeffords that forced the leadership sharing on Senator Lott in 2000 and I wouldn’t be surprised if Snowe and Collins wasn’t part of it

          • mbecker908

            with anybody on the R side now. The ME Girls have never shown any initiative in the whole of their tenure. They are followers. I’m convinced – and it’s just based on my opinion – that the only reason they supported O on the Porkulus is because Specter gave them cover.

          • AceInTX

            as the Dems wine and dine her

          • azred

            the Goldwater days of AZ are going to be threatened due to immigration. Once the illegals are granted amnesty, the demographic will change so heavily it will be much more difficult to hold off a swing left. Rumblings of Napolitano running for Senate just makes me sick. Reward for bad behavior in the Party is a cushy job. Why she slid under the scrutiny of the few in the press that really cared, I don’t know.

            Just look at the swing left in Tuscon. The border is pushing northward, and it is very apparent the left is aiding and abetting.

            As for McCain, yup he needs to go.

          • AceInTX

            and anyone who thinks bringing in more Mexicans…or canucks for that matter…will make a state more red needs to just come on down to Texas so I can sell them a tropical island out around midland!

          • mbecker908

            from Mexico. It has everything to do with immigration from CA and IL.

            Tucson has ALWAYS been the lefty haven in AZ because of UofA. It’s no different that Berkeley or Austin, TX.

            Napolitano is the ONLY person around who could give McCain a run for his money, and she might even beat him.

      • Swamp_Yankee

        In 2008, Obama carried Maine by 18 points: 58 to 40.

        In 2008, Collins beat Popular Congressman Tom Allen by by 23: 62 to 39

        There are better targets and fights than the Maine twins. The truth is that Maine is liberal and The Twins are popular. Trying to fight them from the outside is like conservative Democrats from the South trying to run a Blue Dog against Ted Kennedy. Any conservative resurgence has got to start with the cultural institutions like the local press and politics and the city and town level.

        If not maybe a candidate can be recruited from the Maine Hippie Trail: http://www.downeast.com/magazine/2005/august/the-maine-hippie-trail

        • AceInTX

          If you vote for allowing the federal government to fine and arrest me for not spending the money the way the Feds see fit…you are my political enemy…I don’t give a hoot in hell whether you call yourself a Republican or not!

          and save your breath with the “we need more in the R column to stop the Democrats because they’re not stopping the Democrats

          • AceInTX

            nd save your breath with the ?we need more in the R column to stop the Democrats because they?re not stopping the Democrats

          • Swamp_Yankee

            In reality, Collins and Snowe and better than your own Kay Bailey Hutchinson. Collins and Snowe represent a state that went +18 for Obama. They are representing the will of the people in their state. And like I said, they are loved up there. It doesn?t matter much what other people think. You can spew at them, but it wont change anything.

            Politicians are the byproduct of the people who vote for them. It?s the nature of a representative democracy. Spend some time in Portland, ME. I don?t think people realize how many hippies have infested that state. To put it in perspective; it?s like a giant Austin. I?ll take any fight that I can get from The Twins like I would a Republican from Austin.

            Its people like Hutchinson, Huckabee and McCain have no excuse. They are the real RINOS because they betray their constituents.

          • AceInTX
  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    It is simply beyond the pale in America if we take the concept of Liberty seriously.

    Hence, my complete and utter disgust with respect to the Democratic Party (they ALL voted for it).

    • AceInTX
      • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
  • clowngirl

    One would think self preservation would kick in at some point.

    • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics

      The left is willing to lose an election because they know once the program is implemented it will never go away. And they will always get the positive credit for it while blaming conservatives for any problems it creates. “If only it were fully funded.”
      Conservatives respond by gradually adopting the platform of the left which is a losing strategy by itself since the left will still get the credit for it and the conservatives will just look like Johnny-Come-Latelys who finally woke up to what the left recognized all along.

      For example how many conservatives today want to outright eliminate Social Security? Farm subsidies? Medicare? The Federal Reserve? the minimum wage? These are all failures but????
      It would be hard to get a majority of conservatives (meaning prominent Republicans) to vote to eliminate the Dept of Education.

      Voters can hardly be faulted for seeing that these “genius” ideas all came from the left and Republicans only grudgingly supported them.

      With people like Snowe and McCain and others we are worse than the party of me too we are the party of if we have too.

      I heard somebody on Hannity say that as a liberal she agreed America is “not yet ready” for one world government. They see it as inevitable, we are just not yet ready. No wonder they do, wherever they lead we follow along like whupped dogs griping and complaining but never putting our collective foot down and saying “THIS LINE I WILL NOT CROSS.”

      • AceInTX

        or defend forcing public broadcasting to even show balance in it’s program a couple years ago…so the left has a monopoly on the use of our tax dollars for broadcasting purposes….and our guys can’t muster an argument against it!

        AHHHHHHHHHH!!!

  • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics
  • randy streu

    Snowe can WIN!!!! Isn’t that all that matters? Even if she is a fascist in elephant skin, what’s important here is that she can WIN!!! Isn’t it?

    Sorry… channelling somebody… else.

    well done, Ace.

    • AceInTX
  • http://brockwayfamily.spaces.live.com/ Erick Brockway

    Finally?please spare me the sanctimonious crap about how I prefer to attack Republicans over Democrats which is an over simplification?The issue is?I expect more out of Republicans than Democrats and I?m outraged when people do crap like this when they should darned well know better!

    This is why it does no good to win a seat when the rear occupying it is a seat warmer for a Democrat.
    What % of Olympia Snowe is good for the GOP, exactly?

  • parker3467

    im a veteran, i have a 9 year old daughter with type 1 diabetes and a major learning disability, her mother is 100% diabled, and i am partially diabled, amd altogether our total monthly income is 581 dollars a month. we live in absolute MISERY and poverty. weve lost everything in the last few months. id like to see those frakkin losers muster up someone well trained enough to handle me takin me to jail fer bein destitute level poor. therell be lawmakers and peace keepers laying everywhere about my feet. let em try it, please, please try it i beg you. ive got NOTHING!! and they would put me in jail because I have NOTHING!! hah!! washington has a nighmare ahead of them with many many more like me if this happens. theyll NEVER forget that mistake for as long as they live.

  • http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish/ reelman

    THE HC PLAN U CAN?T GET (congress has)

    Ever wonder why people spend a million to get a job paying under $175k? Our arrogant congressional royalty?you know, the one that raises its own pay in a severe recession and lusts only for 40 years in the D.C. power bubble, that royalty.
    Ever realized their health care coverage WE pay for with taxes?
    According to the May 2009 Consumer Reports?

    this is what they have in their FEDERAL Employees Health Benefits Program:

    1?No annual or lifetime limits for major services
    2?$300 deductible per person and $600 per family
    3?Limited 5k a year they pay with preferred providers (which includes most deductibles, co-insurance and co-pays)

    Covered Services are:
    1?In and out-patient care, visits, surgery and mental health care
    2?Prescriptions and diagnostic tests
    3?Preventative care including routine shots
    4?Chem and radiation therapy
    5?Family Planning and organ-tissue transplants
    6?Durable med equip and artificial limbs
    7?Physical, occupational and speech therapy

    They pay $152 a MONTH each or $357 a FAMILY.
    Okay, take out your family policy and compare.
    The folks that ?understand? your family struggles have this program.
    The feds are special, you and your family are not.
    Ask yourself why we can?t have the same coverage.
    They are exempted from any new gov-meant Plan too.

    http://conservablogs.com/theconservativecrawfish

    • AceInTX

      I worked for DOJ and we had free access to it as well

  • melissatx

    this will lead to a new debtors prison.

    If the Democrats were serious about reforming health care, and they are not, they would first make sure tort reform is instituted. But, since they do not care for the middle class and poor, they will keep rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic and loose in epic numbers come 2010.

  • GregInFla

    I’ll take them to court and take it as high as necessary, challenging their fines in criminal court. I bet Mark Levin’s group would gladly take the case pro bono.

  • OccamsRazor

    If not, push Right.