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Why Are We Signalling A Repeal Strategy For Obamacare When It Has Yet To Become Law?

Well, here we are. Everyone knows the epic failure of Mitch McConnell and his lack of effort in slowing down let alone defeating the Democrats in their efforts to pass HCR before the Christmas Break so I won’t rehash it all here. Let’s just say I’m sick to death over it and frustrated beyond measure that more wasn’t done when it’s clear to everyone the Republican effort in the Senate was lackluster at best.

So, where are we now? Is Obamacare an inevitability?

Obama and his minions in the lapdog press want us all to think it is!

This despite the real possibilities that the Dems could tear themselves apart over the conference to reconcile the House and Senate versions. Republicans could still object to the conferees…DeMint has done just that in fact. Cracks can be exploited in the Democrat coalition because the far left is up in arms at the fact the Dems are abandoning the public option. Nelson has been under withering assault because of the fire sale he conducted to purchase his vote. The Stupack Amendment is a thorn sticking out of the side of the House bill that is the size of a meat cleaver…There are liberal groups out there that want this to be killed we could team up with in bringing pressure to bear on one or two Senators or even one or two Representatives to switch their votes…and on and on!

Much has been written of late about how we can still kill this pig before it becomes law beginning with: The Three-Step Plan to Stop Nationalized Health Care by Ben Shapiro and Ten New Reasons Why Obamacare Can Still Be Killed and others showing how this potential negative for Republicans can be turned to a positive by fracturing the Democrat Party while simultaneously killing a bill that is opposed by a plurality of Americans exceeding 70% in some polls.

So…what are Republicans to do? surely they are toiling away figuring out how they can do all of the above while putting themselves on the side of the Tea Party protesters and a majority in this country who want no part of this?

You’d think so wouldn’t you?

Well…YOU WOULD BE WRONG!

It seems the geniuses who brought us McConnell’s messaging strategy have given up stopping this thing out right and decided on a strategy of allowing it to pass…and running on a repeal platform in 2010: GOP banks on repeal push for 2010!

Republicans hope a push to repeal the Democrats’ health care bill will inspire voters to turn out for them in the 2010 elections — even though some of them admit that it has no realistic chance of working.

Never mind the fact that once this thing is passed…we’ll be in chains…We’ll be stuck with an individual mandate that put’s the federal government in a position of telling me how I can spend my own money.

Uncle Sam will not only tell me I have to purchase a health care plan…he will be deciding what health insurance will be available for purchase! He’ll be raising taxes for the next four years to supposedly pay for this legislation as if those funds won’t go into the general fund and spent so Democrats will have plenty of pork to hand out between now and 2014 leaving nothing in the treasury when this chicken comes home to roost!!! (never mind the predicted funcds that will never bee seen since they come from raising taxes in the middle of a deep recession)!

But hey…we shouldn’t worry…we’ll make huge gains in the 2010 elections running on repealing this legislation won’t we? We might even take back the House and Senate…and we might even vote on a blanket repeal of the legislature with our new majorities, (excuse me if I don’t hold my breath waiting for that!).

Of course we’re supposed to be to stupid to realize even if we were to take back both houses of congress and pass a repeal with our bare majorities…that any repeal would need to be signed into law by…(gasp)….wait for it….BARACK OBAMA!

What about the short term effect of what these mental midgets are doing? The Politico article raises this very question:

And even some supporters say the push for full repeal could backfire on Republicans. By starting their positioning for a repeal before the bill even passes, the GOP is reinforcing the Democratic narrative that passage is inevitable — and that Republicans haven’t done enough to shape the bill along the way.

Heh…ya think?

Which brings us full circle to my original question and what the Dems and the media want us to think…”Is Obamacare and inevitability?”

So apparently the new Republican position is, “Let’s just stop fighting it now because we’ve got a better…much more “NUANCED” and brilliant plan to pad our numbers in the hallowed halls of Congress…and damn the consequences to our liberties and this grand republic!”

Imagine General Washington in preparation for his trip across the Delaware to engage the Hessians the day after Christmas in Trenton riding out in his best dress uniform upon a grand white stallion to adress those he would be sending into battle that day:

“We are now engaged in a lost cause with no hope for victory…The Red Coats and their hired guns represented by the Hessians across the river are destined to win this war…there is no way we can stop them from burning our towns and villages, killing our children, raping our women and raising our farms, crops and livelihood to the ground…But Men…I want you to spill your blood….I want you to leave your very limbs on the ground in Trenton…I want you to die today secure in the knowledge that in losing this battle…you’ll get more suckers to join the fight so they can fight, sacrifice their limbs and bleed their life’s blood into American soil and die another day for a cause your general, your congress, and your people have no commitment to winning!”

Inspiring stuff is it not?

The 800 pound gorilla in the tent which blows a Mack Truck sized hole in this brilliant strategy is this. The assumption is that by lying back and allowing HCR to pass, Republicans will be able to make political hay against the Democrats and they wont face any negative consequences for lying back and doing nothing while the Democrats rammed it through all the while thumbing their noses at the majority of voters who want this to die. It’s a flawed assumption which is borne out by recent polling showing high negatives for Democrats but even higher negatives for a Republican Party which is doing nothing to help an increasingly frustrated voting block stop an unpopular Juggernaut while claiming to do everything it can!

In closing…let me slip in another defense of my constant harangues directed at the Republican Party…It bothers me that I’m known as the crazy malcontent who can’t find anything about the Republican Party to be positive about. If it didn’t bother me…I wouldn’t keep trying to explain it…
that said, let me give you an analogy I’ve been working on to explain why I tend to ignore what the Demoncrats are doing and expend all my energy yelling at the Republicans.

Consider a prize fight were you’ve got two heavyweights standing in the middle of a ring…one represents the Republican Party…the other represents the Democrat Party…it’s the 8th round of a 10 round fight and the Democrat has pounded and pounded the Republican for the previous 7 rounds while the Republican has stood in the center of the ring with his arms at his side refusing to lift his arms to even block the Democrat’s punches…let alone punch back in an effort to defend himself…YOU are in the Republican’s corner. You love the guy getting his head pounded to a bloody pulp in the middle of the ring and you want to see him win…or at least put up a respectable fight before assuming a place on the mat for an eight count…and not get killed….

Let me ask you…are you going to yell at the Democrat for doing what he’s supposed to do and that is to beat the ever living hell out of the Republican….or are you going to give your guy hell for standing there and taking it and demand that the punch drunk fool man up and put up some semblance of a fight?!

Cross Posted to The Minority Report

COMMENTS

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
    • Common_Cents

      They have sold out America and are only interested in their re-election bids. Voters are those nuisances they have to deal with from time to time.

      • AceInTX

        I don’t see how else you read McConnell and Alexander’s half assed approach to this in the Senate while it was being worked out followed by a swift shift toward repealing it before the conference or final vote is even scheduled!

    • Hoosier Economist

      I live near a Blue Dog here in Indiana (Baron Hill). Even when the guy had his feet held to the fire, he held the party line. Now that the conference process will essentially be passed over and the Senate bill more or less adopted by the House, Blue Dogs will be given some cover – particularly with the removal of abortion coverage in the text of the final bill.

      • AceInTX

        had Chrchhill taken your attitude about the battle of briton he’d have grounded the RAF and started planning how he was going to deal with the NAZI occupation of Britain!

        • Hoosier Economist

          …you should probably not read my comments at all.

          I’m just spelling out reality. Even as we write our comments, the Democrats are trying to streamline the conference process to speed this thing along and usurp the Senate filibuster option.

          I have no problem with a fight – in fact, I encourage it. But to recommend the same failed strategy of targeting Blue Dogs who will inevitably fall in line leaves the cause right where it was before.

          • AceInTX

            I welcome your input even when I don’t agree with it…and I will counter what I see as a weak argument…

            maybe we won’t win if we fight it…I’m simply pointing out there was every reason to believe the RAF would be overwhelmed by the Luftwaffe and her vastly superior in numbers and plenty of reason to sue for a cessation of hostilities.

            But the British fought and won the battle of Britain rather than surrender because things looked hopeless.

            I laid out several possible strategies and linked to Articles from other authors who lay out other possible strategies for fighting…if we fight bravely and lose in the end…at least we fought…but to me it’s crazy to just stop and place our own shackles arounf our akles just because things look hopeless and it’s STUPID to pat ourselves on the back for how smart we are while doing so!

            You may also be right about it being futile to rely on a Blue Dog strategy…but that’s all we have right now to bring about a 41st vote to stop this thing…and if you have a better strategy…please let us hear it because I’m for pulling out every stop…playing every trick and firing every last bullet at this to kill it…if it survives at least I can rest assured that everything that was possible was done to kill it!

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine
    • izoneguy

      Need to HIGHLIGHT the fact that people will not get FREE health insurance or FREE healthcare. Libs are still thinking that if the “historic” healthcare bill passes that everything will be lollipops & gumdrops. Nothing could be further from the truth. 10,000,000 people in America can afford health insurance RIGHT NOW. They choose not to buy it. If the healthcare bill passes – they won’t have a choice.
      The MINIMUM it will cost these 10,000,000 people is a $750 per year fine for not having health insurance. NOW that is CHANGE you can get pissed off about.

      • AceInTX
    • AceInTX
  • izoneguy

    Oppose the Government Takeover of Health Care

    http://www.freedomworks.org/talking-points

  • nessa

    I liked the Battle of Britain analogy, it’s accurate. I’ve been asking the same question and others along the same lines. Why didn’t they actually fight in the senate, instead of gambling our freedom on some sort of political jello wrestling? Do they actually care if they defeat it? Or were they just putting on a little Kabuki theater for our benefit? Have the “leaders” of the GOP decided it will be more beneficial to allow it to pass, garner votes in a “repeal Healthcare” campaign and, who’s to say what happens then, it is billions of tax dollars we’re talking about, why would they want to just give them back to us? Unless they give them back in an earmark or two. I’m not willing to trust this crop of “elected representatives” when there is money and big government involved. There’s a good chance we’re being sold a bill of goods and up the river at the same time.

    • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

      I don’t trust the current crop of Republicans very much. A lot more of them have to retire or lose in primaries to conservatives till I have any trust at all.

    • AceInTX
      • nessa
  • sharonmcp

    “House and Senate Democrats intend to bypass traditional procedures when they negotiate a final compromise on health care legislation, officials said Monday, a move that will exclude Republican lawmakers and reduce their ability to delay or force politically troubling votes in both houses.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/04/democrats-plan-cut-gop-final-health-care-negotiations/

    • izoneguy

      lock, stock & two smoking barrels…..

      I am not happy that they are steering our healthcare system into the ditch…

      But YOU KNOW the socialists will blame republicans when the whole thing blows up. They will say that they looked for “bi-partisian” support but got none. The state of your crappy healthcare is the result of those evil republicans….

      Remember when the evil Republicans were trying to rein in Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac? And got slammed for being racist? Now Obama has blown the lid of any restrictions on how much Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac can lose…..

      It will be real interesting to see what the demialists will do to
      “rescue” the healthcare system after they have killed it.

  • Jaimo

    Isn’t there an amendment in the bill that says “future Congresses will not be allowed to repeal or amendment this bill”. I thought I saw that the week before it passed in the Senate.

    Could someone confirm that, apparently they would need a super majority in order to repeal. I don’t think the Republicans are looking at that big of a win in 2010, so in my opinion they would be lying to us if that’s the route they want to go.

    • AceInTX

      say that 7 times fast.

      I would also expect that provision to be found unconstitutional….but I expected Kilo and McCain Fiengold to be held as unconstitutional as well…so what do I know?

      (shrugging shoulders)

    • vrwcnut

      If I remember correctly, it was actually written as a change of the rules of the Senate. Something not normally buried in other legislation but in effect it said that anyone in the Senate who introduced legislation to repeal any part of the bill would be considered “out of order”. That would effectively prevent future attempts to even debate changes.

      I’m no Parliamentarian but since it is proposed merely as a rule within the Senate, its not likely it could be challenged in court as “unconstitutional”.

      • AceInTX

        I also think it could be a constitutional issue as well however so I don’t totally agree…I don’t see how a current congress can tell a future congress what it is allowed to do

  • blugrass

    and it’s looking like our side sold out even before Obammcare even started through CONGRESS ( can I use that or is it a cuss word ). The next plan after further review when we get more help in here on our side is not to repeal, just tweeeek it and make it better.
    Tell me I’m wrong.
    When we’ve had the numbers on our side we did nothing. Kinda hard to improve on the ability of wanting to keep on doing the same thing. NO THING.

    We are in a big mess and get’n better just ain’t looking real good.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Hammer it out in conference or have the House vote up or down on the Senate Bill. This smells rotten,:

    http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-treatment/exclusive-dems-almost-certain-bypass-conference

    Ironically, it was the GOP delay tactics that caused this

    • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

      The GOP delay tactics are standard. What the Dems are doing now is the new thing. Nobody has ever passed a bill anything like this with all the negotiations in secret backrooms, no public participation, and completely cutting out the minority party.

      • Ausonius

        That is precisely why the GOP leadership needs to be blamed!

        They are not thinking like the rodentia who are inventing ways around the “standard tactics.”

        I will indeed blame them!

        • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

          I was just saying that we can’t let the Dems off the hook for their backroom trickery by saying the mean ol’ Republicans made them do it with their objections and refusals.

          On the other hand, the failure of imagination by Republicans is tragic. That is an error of omission, though, not commission.

        • AceInTX

          Why aren’t they raising hell about the majority stomping on the rights of the minority….I can gurantee you if the Republicans were being this heavy handed…every Democrat Senator would be beating a path to every microphone they could find to complain…yet here we are…three days after Ried announces his dictatorial plan…and still not a word for McConnell!

          NOTHING!!!

          • Ausonius

            “You like me! You really like me!”

            Is that what McConnell wants to say, needs to say, to the Dems?

            I agree: where is the outrage? Where are the “fightin’ words” ?

            Where and when will we see some seriousness from top Republican “leaders” instead of dainty finessing with this avalanche-causing snowball?

  • chbroussard

    Roll over and play dead before the battle is even over. It’s no wonder we’re in the mess we’re in. The majority of the country is against this bill, so why are Republicans waving the white flag? There were times in WWII when we could very well have lost the war. But we didn’t give up. It was too important to keep fighting. Bunch of eunuchs.

  • avgjo

    I am new here, and i have spent a lot of time reading, but now i would like to say something.

    Hi.

    No less a mind than Michael Barone says that Republicans can ‘make hay’ running on repeal, but need to run on other issues, as well.

    Short of a miracle, there is nothing we can do to stop this bill. Sorry if that sounds defeatist. It’s real. Look at the shenanigans going on in the Senate, and now this conference nonsense. They don’t care what we think. All the emails and phone calls and faxes in the world HAVE NOT gotten them to listen. After the Aug. town halls, BO shouldn’t have had a prayer to get the votes for this. But he rammed thru both. Why? Because they don’t care what we think.

    If played right, I think this running on repeal is a smart strategy. See, it gives a channel for people like us to put our anger thru in the next election. It is redmeat for redstaters. It is more than likely that this would lead to a House majority. If we get the House back, we can make BO’s life a living heck. Cut funding for everything. Shut the government down.

    Before you start telling me that the Republicans would never do that, let me explain what would make them do so. We have opportunities in the coming weeks to nominate conservatives. That’s one channel for us to exert our influence thru. The second is, we will have to put the same kind of pressure on Republicans, once we have elected them, that we tried to put on Dems not to pass ObamaScare, to oppose and, yes, ‘obstruct’ Obama.

    The same time, the Republicans and we will have to inform the public that we would love to do x, y and z, but we can’t because BO is so darned ‘obstructionist’. If only you will give us even more support in ’12, we can remake America.

    I wouldn’t expect BO to be smart enough to moderate in such circumstances, but at least the damage he does can be mitigated.

    One other thing, we should try to keep the midterm democrats busy until next Jan. Perhaps scandals could be dug up or charges made that they HAVE to respond to; make it a long year for these jerks.

    We have to start thinking outside of the box. Let’s take a lesson from our fine military. They adapt to any conditions they are faced with. We will have to do the same, whether it’s a deficit of power, or a new electorate (amnesty) or whatever comes our way. I don’t like it, I am too young to have had a hand in the decline (as are many here), but we are stuck with this hand and have to play it. Let’s play it smart.

    Perhaps what i have said here will get me banned. I like it here, but if what i have said gets me banned, that’s o.k.

    I believe it has to be said.

    At least consider it.

    thanks for reading.

    • DONTREADONME

      Have you been paying attention for the last 2 years? Or are you one of those that is awaking from the slumber? BTW, no FLAME from me

    • bs

      If nothing else, a repeal strategy is a smart contingency plan. And I think you’re right about channeling the anger.

      I guarantee you that this comment won’t get you banned.

      • AceInTX

        but why would you put it out there front and center before the battle has been lost?

        There are still battles to be waged in this and the majority in this country want’s those battles to be waged…why are we quitting?

        • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

          Surely there has been copious oath-breaking of the congress-critters’ oaths to protect and defend the constitution, in addition to bribery, and dereliction of duty for neither reading nor writing the bill themselves. I don’t know what is actionable, but if Scooter Libby was guilty of a crime for remembering a conversation differently than Tim Russert did, then I’m sure perjury is spilling over in the Senate every single minute.

    • AceInTX

      The Dems hoild all the cards yes…and no one says it’s easy….and we may well lose if we fight….but the bottom line at this point is…we are where we are because we haven’t fought and we’re guranteed to lose if we don’t fight.

      It’s the preemptive surrender that is so infuriating here…stand and fight…win or lose this on it’s merit…but for Pete’s sake let’s not lose this because we gave up before the first shot was fired!!!

      • AceInTX

        Run the adds…fire up the voters…get people to call and march on Washington every single day…raise as much hell as possible…that way if we kill it we all win…if we don’t kill it we still win because we’ll be seen as being on the side of all those people who want this killed…as it is now…those that want it killed are looking around and wondering where the opposition is and when this comes out in the wash…the Republican Party will be seen as equally responsible for it’s passage as the Democrats because of the cynical way McConnell and his car load of clowns have acted in this…

        and anyone who actually believes this will ever be repealed once it is passed are at best naive…and at worse dumb as a stump!

        • avgjo

          I know i’ m not naive. I’ve read history. i know all the arguments about the European countries that have never gotten rid of their socialized medicine, blah, blah, blah.

          We’re not Europeans. Case in point: as Mark Steyn pointed out last week on Rush, all the Europeans were clamoring last year for government to do something more for them, we were clamoring for it to do less.

          They’ve never had the freedom we do. Even now, they don’t have the freedom of expression, or the access to gov. we do. I know the dems would love to change that, but if that happens, it will be our fault alone.

          So it’s not naivete that leads me to believe this.

          I think it’s naive to believe that any more shouting by us or maneuvering by the GOP will stop this from going thru. Of course, I naively base this on what we have seen already.

          Maybe I’m dumb as a stump. I am a political theory and math major, and i have all A’s in political theory and a 3,8 in math. I speak 6 languages well (if you don’t believe me, we can debate in English, Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese or German. Just post your message here in whichever language.)

          So yeah, maybe I’m just dumb as a stump. So is Newt Gingrich, Michael Barone and many others. That pro ‘ly explains it.

          Or it could be that I’m right and you’re wrong.

          I don’t know you personally, so I will not try to attribute any of the following to you. But I have seen these in the people I’ve met who don’t believe the repeal of Obamacare is possible.

          Projection – they know they themselves will merely acquiesce, rather than fight. So, they assume others will do the same.

          Arrogance – they think the ‘sheeple’ will just acquiesce. This is based on an assumption that people are stupid. I cannot argue that our present situation doesn’t imply this, but do consider that Obama could not have been elected without a compliant media or massive voter fraud.

          People tend to be rational, BASED ON WHAT THEY KNOW. For millions, the MSM is, unfortunately, the only source of info. So that’s what they base their decisions on.

          Aloofness – look at the tea party. Look at its popularity. It is predicated on a massive, zealous rejection of Obama’s agenda. They don’t want it. I think it is an aloof and frankly inattentive view that considers the current situation with Obamacare’s (lack of) popularity and the massive protests against Big Government that assumes that this movement will acquiesce to a tyrannical, substandard system. Or perhaps its just cynical.

          You made a broad, sweeping statement about people who believe this can be repealed. I will make no such statements. I have offered some observations that I have made from watching people who think Obamacare cannot be repealed. I had to offer you a third possibility, which fell outside the choices you offered. I respectfully submit my observations and invite any more possibilities.

          Thank you.

          BTW, please don’t think I am pleased with the GOP. I am absolutely furious with McConnell’s rolling over before Christmas. Further, his ‘reach across the aisle’, ‘let’s be friends’ attitude irks me to no end. He needs to retire, with all due respect. All I am saying is that the same defeatist attitude you’re referring to is also manifested in those who will not fight for the repeal of Obamacare.

          Look up Ramesh Ponnuru’s article from several weeks ago. He outlined the strategy the GOP should have used (w/reference to repeal) from the beginning. I believe that if the GOP had threatened this from the beginning of Obamacare’s unpopularity, the ‘blue dogs’ would have seen that this had no mitigating effect on the unpopularity of the proposal, would have realized that the American people were tacitly affirming the repeal position and may have seen that a vote for Obamacare would be to sacrifice a career for a lost cause.

          The GOP don’t have the killer instinct. Look at Steele. The guy’s a clown.
          This lack of intestinal fortitude is one of the reasons the GOP got reamed in recent elections. To run on repeal is actually encouraging; it displays, dare I say it? …courage.

          • AceInTX

            Why Is Brian Lamb Doing What Republican Leaders Won?t! What Would AceInTX Do?

            let me be clear…I don’t mean to call anyone dumb as a stump and regret posting it that way…but the fact is…to my knowledge there has never been an outright repeal of any legislation of the size and scope of what’s being pushed here…

            I contend now is the time for an all out…scorched earth war to stop this from going through…because once it’s passed…it won’t be repealed…there won’t be enough Republicans to get a vote past cloture…and there won’t be enough to get it past an Obama Veto….NOW IS THE TIME TO KILL THIS….

          • AceInTX

            It just hasn’t happened in history that I’m aware of…and I don’t see the current crop of crap weasels we have representing us changing history either

          • avgjo

            we need to fight this tooth and nail.

            Someone once said,

            ‘when you run out of ammo, use your bayonet. when your bayonet breaks, use the stock. when the stock breaks, use your fists. when your fists break, use your teeth’.

            that’s how i look at this. we were out of ammo as of last nov. Will our bayonet break? We shall see.

            thanks.

            BTW, I totally respect your passion.

            And you’re absolutely right; we can’t count on this crop to do anything. Thank God for the primaries, the Tea Party and we the conservative people.
            It may be painful, but I really think we’ll come out of this well and better as a nation for it.

            Talk later.

            And I’ll keep calling, emailing, shouting and spreading the Good News.

            If that fails, see you at the battle for repeal.

            Let 2010 be the beginning of the end of tyranny in this country.

          • AceInTX

            You’d think they’d have voted the Kilo decision was unconstitutional or at least made a federal law banning the taking of private property for personal gain by eminent Domain and they haven’t touched that.

            Let me bring the Dumb as a stump comment down where it should be….I meant it as a generality and not to apply to anyone in particular which I’ve stated but I haven’t apologized which I’ve meant to do in my last two posts on the subject….let me take this opportunity to say I’m sorry and I hope you didn’t take it wrong

  • avgjo

    i have been screaming about this stuff since i was 19. it has probably taken 10 years off my life, and it has definitely cost me some hair.

    So no, i have not just awoken. The sort of stuff i had in mind was stuff a p.i. would have to dig up and would have to be popped on live television. you know as well as i that the MSM won’t just report the truth on these people. so their viewers, many of whom have no other access to newsources, never see the truth. i don’t believe most people are dumb; i think they are ignorant. of course, you have your true believers, who will be dem, no matter what. but look at the drop in people who take the dem label (q.v. Rasmussen). they have eyes; they have ears and they have brains. and this is not what they want.

    Heck, we could all get together and buy a newspaper or tv station and get it out. just throwing out crazy ideas.

    I’m just saying, we have to be slicker than ever.

    We on the right have the arguments down pat. But logical, rational thought has its limits as a tool to effect public change, especially in this environment. We must also master rhetoric and theatrics. And as if that’s not enough, we must become masters of time and place.

    Imagine, a candidate with Couric; she’s trying to play ‘gotcha’ and he not only answers her question, but he ‘gotchas’ her back.

    or, a self-righteous media personality is grilling one of our people on a minor indiscretion, on live national tv. and our person responds with a major indiscretion from said media personality’s past.

    Maybe it’s not nice. Maybe it’s not pleasant. But this is the closest to an all-out war we can get here. And we have to fight accordingly.

    If they want to fight in the gutter, we fight in the gutter.

    sorry.

    thanks again for reading and considering.

    here’s to victory and the beginning of the end of tyranny in America in 2010.

  • avgjo

    i think we were on different pages. i don’t mean a repeal in ’10. i am not crazy. if i came across that way, you had every right to think i was naive or stupid. i am sorry for not clarifying. i just think that the conservatives in this country have to control the repeal dialogue from the start. because whether our ‘representatives’ run on it or not, the dems will try to use repeal as a tool against us.

    we always lose because we allow them to define us and the situation. the same will happen in this case. so we have to take control of this from the beginning. and that means riding on the opposition to this, and keeping it up and using this to the country’s advantage in ’10, ’12 and beyond.

    later.

    have a peaceful night.

    • AceInTX

      and taking the pressure off the Dems by signaling right out of the shoots that you are retiring to the keep and will hold fire until the enemy has breached the gates isn’t sound strategy from my perspective!

      • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

        All we have until then are extra taxes and regulations. Oh, and unionized government jobs. So it won’t be easy to get rid of, but it will be possible.

  • jayburd

    Think of the constituent services opportunities if this thing passes! In reality, repeal strategy is just a cover.

  • http://vbushmills.blogtownhall.com/ vassar

    …it one indictment.

    We mentioned this on the 1st (http://www.redstate.com/vassar/2010/01/01/health-care-the-planned-for-and-unplanned-for-counterattack/)

    and believe the Dem’s already have a preemption strategy. If in fact the GOP leaked this tactic, it was stupid, but what RedState and the Tea Partiers can do (that the GOP cannot) is not only call for repeal (which Obama would veto anyway) but also call for criminal investigations.

    I’m hoping someone in RedState’s AG’s office is already looking that up.