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DE Senate: So This Is The Monster We’ve Heard So Much About? Are You Kidding Me?

By: AceInTX (Diary)  |  October 30th, 2010 at 03:44 PM  | 

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Fox News has done an interview with Christine O’Donnell which ran Saturday.

Everyone knows the story. Everyone knows the smear job that’s been done on this girl. Every fair minded person knows the unfair characterizations of her!

Starting with Bill Maher, trumpeted by the so called “objective media”, and magnified by Carl Rove and his clown followers in the Republican Establishment she’s been caricatured to be everything from a witch to a tax cheat to a Christian country bumpkin and everything in between.

That said…it is one thing to know it. It is another thing to BELIEVE it. It is yet one more thing to be outraged by it.

I’ve been interested in this race all along and I’ve defended O’Donnell with my trade mark stridency here with all the above in mind. Yet I’ve been uncomfortable at times by her apparent lack of polish and poise. But it’s something else entirely to be confronted by the magnitude of the distortion when she is finally given a forum where she can speak her mind without being lead into a mine field by questions designed to entrap, denigrate and embarrass her.

Fox News carried an interview this morning with O’Donnell, and it’s the first even handed and fair chance she’s been given to speak about who she is without having to shout over someone…or have her comments Miss-characterized by a reporter before they are aired with heavy editing.

What a contrast to the narrative.

Fox News Interview With O’Donnell

Fox News Interview With O’Donnell 2

This is my message to John Cornyn, Comrade Carl, the RNC, and the rest of the Republican Establishment.

O’Donnell is within anywhere from 6 to 10 points of Coons.

By all accounts she is surging!

There is still time to help make her #10 which would put the US Senate in Republican hands.

It’s very late in the day and it’s well past time to get off your high falutin asses up there and go all in in DE.

You can help her in these last days…and help yourselves in the process with your own voters and with another seat that may well put you in charge of some very important committees.

Who knows…you might even get a small measure of credit for her victory should she win despite your cretinous behavior up to this point.

Do nothing and and you can rest assured: If she wins…She will have won DESPITE you, not because of anything you have done:

YOU DESERVE NO CREDIT WHAT SO EVER!

If she loses by a few points because you refused to help….because you decided to join the talking heads in starting every discussion about her with the “she’s unelectable” meme…Because you pined for the glory that would be a Senator Mike Castle with every syllable….And Whined about the ignorant unwashed hicks and hillbillies who nominated her:

YOU DESERVE EVERY MODICUM OF THE BLAME!

Don’t you DARE attack the people who nominated her for their lack of sophistication in turning their noses up at Mike Castle!

In doing so…you point out your own lack of sophistication in refusing to get on board with the people’s choice! You have soiled her name with your despicable behavior and soiled yourself in the process.

The lady I see in this interview is so far and away better than what she’s been portrayed to be by you and your MSM cronies that it takes my breath away. She deserves better than what she’s gotten from the lot of you…and she deserves any help you can still give her!

Shame on the whole lot of you!

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  • chbroussard

    Christine O’Donnell would have walked away with this seat if she had gotten even some support from establishment Republicans. In fact, she probably would have walked away with it if they had just kept their darn mouths shut. If nothing else, Christine has taken every punch that’s been thrown at her, many of which would have been a KO for anyone else. But she brushes it off
    and keeps on going. She has proven that she is more than qualified to be in the U.S. Senate. In fact, she’s more qualified than the majority of the dog mess that’s serving there now.

    I’ ve sent her money several times, and on Nov. 2 I hope to be able to say that in a small way I was able to help her cross the finish line. Whatever way that race turns out, my Sen. Cornyn is going to get yet another earfull from me.

    • AceInTX

      I’ve had it with him…and his behavior in DE was the final straw for me.

      I’ve worked for the miserable…well…you know….since his fist run for Senate….next time out…I’m backing any Republican who will challenge him.

      • texasgalt

        Williams will already have Kay’s seat in ’12.

        • AceInTX
          • AceInTX
        • wonkish1

          n/t

        • edintexas

          Only if I can get an equally great Representative out of the deal. I know, I know. I’m being stingy in not wanting to share Jeb with the rest of Texas, and I would gain a great Senator out of the deal. But still….

    • jeremyz

      Christine O’donnell is a nice woman, but she has no record of accomplishment and she created the mess she found herself in. A potential conservative republican candidate CAN NOT get on Bill Maher’s televised and recorded show and say I practiced witchcraft in our current media world…IT CAN’T BE DONE…and then expect to win a statewide election in DELEWARE!!! She is not running in Louisiana where Vitter committed adultery with prostitutes and is going to get reelected. This is Delaware. She is not running in Alaska where Joe Miller’s ethics issues are potentially hurting him but where he still has a chance to win. This is Delaware. For decades they kept on voting for the moron Joe Biden!!!

      O’Donnell thus far is the Tea Party’s “Bridge Too Far”. Yet, it was going to happen somewhere. Could the pollsters possibly be this far off and might she still win, I hope so, but highly doubt it. Please Delaware, prove me wrong. Yet, there are some sensible limits to voter passion.

      This seat was tailor made to be won by a republican, even a conservative…unless they selected a candidate who said on a moronic television show that she “practiced witchcraft”, “had a date with a guy on a Satanic altar”, etc. I am sorry, I hope she wins but I don’t think so. If she does, please get back on here and tell me I was wrong.

      • AceInTX

        Save it for your next Castle worship service…the election is Tuesday….if you want to cap on the floor and stink up the place…save it for Wednesday

        • AceInTX
      • Wubbies World

        … The only thing that doomed this lady was the sell out Republican establishment who wanted her to lose. Right now she is surging despite the Republican Establishment and people like you.

        She hasn’t won yet, but your still wrong.

      • Finrod

        Then don’t let the door hit you on the a$$ on the way out.

      • Martin Knight

        The AK media usually tries to hide what the so-called “ethics issues” is whenever they ominously mention that Joe Miller has “ethics issues”.

        Are you even aware of it or are you just repeating what you saw on TV?

        FYI, the ethics issue is that he took part in an online political poll during his lunchbreak. That’s it. How something so picayune can figure in anyone’s decision process in choosing who to vote for is something that is beyond me.

        • fbks

          was of a minor degree that a three day suspension without pay was the penalty. The problem is that Miller should have laid it out in the open months ago, not a few days before the election during ongoing early voting, because engaging the media in the manner he did hurts him and plays right into the narrative and hysteria the media wants. The Fairbanks Daily News Miner, the Anchorage Daily News and the Juneau Empire are acting as campaign arms for Lisa and they are out to cut Miller’s throat, not even a pretense at objective journalism.
          There is no question for an engaged and motivated conservative voter that Miller is correct on the issues, but the media only needs to chip a few percentage points of voters to throw the election to Lisa or Scott. The argument that the media is not fair is for losers, the candidates know going into a fight to overturn the liberal establishment is going to be a brutal with no prisoners taken engagement.
          Supporting Miller is taking all my time and resources, if it weren’t so critical here, Christine has earned my respect and wish I had time to spare to help her.

          • AceInTX

            Besides…This post is about O’Donnell…not Miller

          • fbks

            while reviewing the Christine posts because after viewing her unedited interviews I became a fan of hers. I only responded to the Miller sub post above because there is so much mis information about Alaska.
            Therefore I apologize for inadverdant posting or whatever the “off topic” tag indicates. When you spend 16 hours a day for weeks directly supporting the Republican nominee it is offensive to be accused of “bashing” him. Particularly in a small town in a small population state where retribution is a very real possibility. Taking on Lisa means taking on very corrupt and powerful entrenched interests and there is no authority to request redress from in the event of retribution, because her influence extends to our Supreme Court.

          • AceInTX

            I was pretty punchy about some here who want to pout about the establishment’s bloody nose we gave them in the primary and I was in a no quarter asked or given mood last night

          • Martin Knight

            I’ve always thought the best time to air your dirty laundry as a political candidate is as early as possible. In Miller’s case, right after the primary.

            Miller messed up here by not coming out and plainly saying that he has a black mark on his record from taking part in an online poll on his work computer during his lunchbreak and that he reported himself immediately afterwards when he realized that he had violated a work rule.

            It would have struck everyone as so utterly minor that it wouldn’t be such an issue so many months later.

      • Tbone

        Go away you RINO scumbucket..

        • AceInTX

          • aesthete
          • AceInTX

            Now I’m off to save the day!

          • jeremyz

            You both obviously follow the same ad hominem tactics. Well done…point (whatever that could possibly be???) proven!!!

          • powertothepeople

            after you inserted it permanently in your rectal area. How hard is it for you to understand, WE DO NOT ATTACK REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ON THIS SITE AFTER THEY HAVE LEGALLY WON THE PRIMARY?

            Or do you think everyone who has stated you are out of line are the dumb one who are wrong? You must love your blissful ignorance.

          • Tbone

            and I got a simpleton to answer. Thank you. Now, swim along.

      • The_Rebel

        Ted Kennedy

      • Finrod

        The lead-up to an election IS NOT THE TIME to go around trashing Republican candidates.

        Doing that just makes you look either WAY clueless, or a troll.

        Then you go digging yourself further in deeper by whining about Ace. For my $0.03, Ace is supporting a Republican candidate, and you’re not. That makes him more important and useful than you here, no matter what you think of his characterization of what you said.

        We’re trying to get as many Republicans across the finish line as possible. If you can’t help with that, then you need to STFU.

  • Scope

    I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Rove and his fellow travelers, including Krauthammer, to even call her by her name at this point, let alone endorse her. When O’Donnell wins on Tuesday, she is beholding to no one, except Jim DeMint, the DE voters, and all of us who have supported her, and, that is a very good place to be for her.

    I wouldn’t go so far as saying she could be #10. Joe Miller, who is also in a battle against the establishment supported Morepukeski, could also be #10. Ken Buck in a close race could be #10, etc. I had a problem with Brown being known as 41, as there were 40 others that could easily have voted for Obama’s legislation, such as Collins, Snowe and Graham. He proved that 41 was not such a magical number with the Financial Reform bill. She is certainly a more dependable conservative vote, but, we still have to deal with some fence jumpers, even if the Republicans win every Senate seat in play this year.

    Go Christine- Break a leg.

    • AceInTX

      and put her over the top…here’s hoping he does

  • bluerose75

    I agree that Ms. O’ Donnell deserved better. Jeremyz you are the exact type of arrogant elitist that continues to look down and thunb your nose at “ordinary people” who do not have perfect lives. I am sure you do?? Cut the crap!! I am sick and tired of well dressed Charlatans that impress with words and destroy with actions!!

    Ms. O’Donnell is not perfect..SO WHAT!! She has a passion and a desire to serve despite being grilled like chicken at a weekend barbecue!! ( I like terriyaki by the way!!). But who meets the standard? We claim to want citize candidates and then we criticize them because of his/her past!! Well hello reality buzz!! I prefer the imperfect because they live on PLANET EARTH not in the Twilight Zone with Rod Serling, John Kerry and Omama!!

    Christine is real!! which means when it comes to voting she will look at things from a REAL PERSPECTIVE!!! Wow how unique!! Washington is full of hemorrhoid stars of the month like Karl Rove and quite frankly I am sick of him and elk like him!!

    Good Luck Christine…I donated to your campaign and I, like many others on RS, appreciate the fact that you are taking slings and arrows because you believe in this great country!! The GOP establishment can take the next train to Smucksville for what they did and have done to this woman.

    • AceInTX

  • SIConservative

    Before I get into the part I disagree with, let me make clear that I agree 100% that there was no excuse for the establishment’s response to her primary victory.

    That said, there are two reasons I don’t think doubling down on DE-SEN is a good idea. First, we have another half-dozen plus Senate races that are still not decided. CO, IL, NV, and PA are all touch-and-go. CA and WA remain tight, though WA is mostly over. AK is a dicey situation. That doesn’t even account for House, Gubernatorial, and State Legislative races that are toss-ups. There are countless other more competitive races more in need of help. I might agree had the GOP responded to her victory appropriately, but now it’s too late.

    Second, the election night narrative will set the stage for the next two years. The story has to be that we dominated, routed, ran up the score, etc., etc. If we double down on DE, we give the Democrats the opportunity to argue that the victory wasn’t really as big as it could’ve/should’ve been. Now, we could make the case that we ran up the score anyway, but it won’t be as effective and won’t play out as well in the press. Now, you can say “press be damned”, but I can assure you that how things play out in the press has a lot to do with what happens in Washington.

    I recall a Seinfeld episode in which George gets dumped. During the scene, he says, “But I have hand.” The woman replies, “And you’re gonna need it.” Tuesday night we have to give the same reply, and making Delaware look important isn’t the way to do it.

    • AceInTX

      CO, IL, NV, and PA…

      CA and Washington are dicey I agree as is CT which you left out but I’ll throw it in here…

      That said…no one says they have to make a big deal about it…but the national party can make a difference with some last minute help while the Dems are looking the other way here…and they have a chance to redeem themselves in this.

      My main question is this…did you watch the interviews I linked to here?

      I tried to embed the video but it wouldn’t work.

      Anyway…She’s not the troglodyte that she’s been made out to be…and she’s surging….as opposed to some other candidates that are stagnating at the moment….a last minute infusion of juice could put her over the top…which is what I’m calling for here…

      finally…the other point of my post is a warning to the establishment…after they way they’ve behaved in this race in particular….they don’t need to think they are going to get away with acting like it is all our fault when they did everything in their power to tear O’Donnell down from the start of this…and they damn sure better not try to take any of the credit if she ends up winning despite them unless they help her over the top!

      • AceInTX
      • SIConservative

        I’m in China, and internet videos aren’t easy to come by. With that disclaimer, I’m not sure there’s anything she could say that would make me view her as viable. Much like Sarah Palin and Sharon Angle, I agree with her on most things but see her as a terrible candidate. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to see her elected, just that I think there are other races where we’re more likely to get bang for our buck. Sure, she may have pulled off a good interview, but (somewhat sadly) candidates have to adjust to other forums, and she can’t.

        As for those races, I couldn’t help but think of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington in reading your assessment. Democrats have been known to steal elections in Chicago and Philadelphia, so Republicans probably have to win those races by 3-5 points to have any chance. Toomey’s lead is well within the margin of error. In CO, the last four polls average a 2.3% Buck lead, again, well within the MOE. Not incidentally, I think you too easily overlook that stat. Kirk’s lead in IL is about the same. Although I and everyone else expect at least high single digit gains, it’s entirely within the realm of possibility that we’ll end up getting just four Senate seats.

        Again, this doesn’t even account for other races, which I think for some reason most of us have overlooked. It’s probably because the House simply has too many races to track unless that’s your full-time job and the Senate seems sexier than GOV races, and even more so state legislative races.

        On credit in the unlikely event of a victory, agreed completely. I’d like to think that Cornyn & Co. wouldn’t be so brazen as to try to take credit for it, but I’m sure they would. Of course Cornyn will take credit for anything at this point since he has done precious little at the NRSC.

        • AceInTX

          Thus my problem…when you speak of o”other forums”….we’re not talking about a fair fight here…we’re talking about reporters setting up the candidate with “when did you stop beating your wife” questions.

          It’s three days before the election….she’s surging….yet our side is continuing with the trashing…and now you add Palin and Angle in the mix….maybe the Chinese haven’t told you that Angle is pulling ahead of Reid in Nevada…and Palin is doing a bang up job rallying the troops…keeping the excitement up…and firing up Republicans to show up at the polls in record numbers

          But I’m sure…if you trash Angle some more…Harry can re count his way back to the Senate because elitist Republicans don’t know when to just shut up and help pull the wagon…then you can all claim later that it was Conservatives that insisted on nominating unelectable candidates and demand that we nominate liberals like Castle that kept us from winning the Senate… and you cann pat yourself on the back and say “We told you so”

          As for the numbers you site…late polling is showing most of those moving out to significant leads…but you go ahead and preach your gloom and doom while we work on winning back here…OK?

          As for Cornyn…I can’t argue with you there…because I’m sure you are right…and I’m sure he’ll be out with your meme the next day of we lose that you laid out for a second time here that We nominated a bunch of extreme candidates in the primaries and it’s our fault we don’t have the Senate on Nov 3

          • Lloyd Davis

            Obama is one of the most polished you will ever see… he’s still a crappy president.

            Don’t forget Cornyn said after the 2008 elections that Republicans had to recruit more moderate candidates if we ever wanted a chance. He proved where his loyalties lie and we have to show him that we won’t forget he is not with us.

            ………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

            ?Never say sorry – it?s a sign of weakness?
            John Wayne

          • JSobieski

            I think there is a disagreement as to the requisite level of accomplishment in life, but that is different than polish.

            For example, neither Paul nor Angle is a polished candidate. However, both have achieved a certain level of accomplishment.

          • AceInTX

            he/she did in deed call out Angle for her lass than polished persona…

            There have been many posts in numerous threads I could point to where it’s been said O’Donnell wasn’t polished….or had to many flaws….or whatever other characterizations you want to make….so you’re assertion here just doesn’t hold water.

          • JSobieski

            I definitely support Angle. I would still characterize her as an unpolished politician. As is Dr. Paul. Compare them in a TV interview to someone like Rubio or Toomey, and that conclusion is undeniable.

            The contention isn’t that people say Angle is unpolished. The contention is are conservatives saying not to vote for Angle BECAUSE she is unpolished?

            I don’t recall seeing a lot of Angle is destined to lose because she is unpolished.

            I do see a lot of “I told you O’Donnell can’t win” stuff though.

            I have not seen the rumblings here at RS with respect to Angle that you see for O’Donnell.

          • AceInTX

            but they did say:

            I?m not sure there?s anything she could say that would make me view her as viable. Much like Sarah Palin and Sharon Angle, I agree with her on most things but see her as a terrible candidate. Doesn?t mean I don?t want to see her elected, just that I think there are other races where we?re more likely to get bang for our buck. Sure, she may have pulled off a good interview, but (somewhat sadly) candidates have to adjust to other forums, and she can?t.

          • AceInTX

            What Brilliance!

            I’m in awe

          • JSobieski

            but its not wide spread—at least not here.

            Moreover, does being 100% positive mean we can’t make honest assessments?

            Is Rubio a far more articulate communicator than Angle? If you polled 100 people on that topic, would just about everyone agree that Rubio is a better communicator?

            Are we so handcuffed that we can’t say anything as analytical observation?

            I also think the timing of the comment matters. If the person really feels that Angle isn’t viable, they should stop talking about her. I would agree with you in chastising anyone who keeps writing about the viability issue at this point in time.

            What Karl did was far worse of course, because the audience for any particular RS comment is small. Karl in contrast was heard by millions.

            Also, the RS comment you quote is fairly nuanced. Karl’s rant was far more of a turd.

          • AceInTX

            but three days before the election?

            Then there is the bad faith of some who play the…I support O’Donnell…BUT followed by every left wing, MSM Establishment Republican Smear that has ever been uttered against her….

            it’s gotten really old…and I think a lot of people here are getting punchy about it much the same way we all did about the smears and attacks on Palin during the election…and just after by McClame’s underlings

          • AceInTX

            since she’s leading the Senate Majority Leader for the United States Senate in the last 4 polls I’m aware of and is within the magin of error on many before that…

            It’s a dumb comment to begin with…and secondly…I can’t speak for the motives of the one uttering it…but the tactic followed in the smear is all to familiar to conservatives

          • SIConservative

            I didn’t say she isn’t viable. I said she’s a poor candidate. Fortunately for us, so is her opponent, who has worked his toucas off in every race he has had. It speaks volumes that the Senate Majority Leader, who has been in Washington for over two decades, needed to find his notes to make his closing statement on why Nevadans should send him back to DC. Poor candidates can be viable, especially when they’re running against poor candidates.

            That said, had we nominated a good candidate like Danny Tarkanian, Reid probably wouldn’t have gotten himself back into the race. (For the record, in a heads up match-up between Angle and Lowden, I’d have supported Angle.) She absolutely has a fair to good chance to win, though it’s far from a foregone conclusion. The same can’t be said of our nominee in Delaware. Given the choice between allocating the final hours and dollars to Delaware or another state, like Nevada, I think the choice is clear.

          • AceInTX
          • Doc Holliday

            they don’t know squat about Delaware, they just want to come off like “fair minded” conservatives, you know, the Joe Scarborough or David Frum. They figure Christine will lose and they want to get the jump on the idea that they knew better than the rest of us. But they are the schmucks, we know better than them, but we choose to fight not to act like Lord Haw Haw.

          • AceInTX

          • JSobieski

            but not me (nor Aesthete for that matter).

          • SIConservative

            Honestly, I’m not sure for whom I’d have voted in the Delaware primary. Even if it means a 50/50 or 51/49 Senate, though, I’m not about to mourn for Mike Castle. That, though, is a separate question from whether it’s a good idea for Republicans to make a last minute push for O’Donnell.

          • AceInTX

            apparently you’re not able to stay up to date on the latest….so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt…

            So let me make my main point once again…we have several conservatives pulling away in these last days….we have a couple falling away….and we have Christine surging and catching up to the Bearded Marxist at the last minute…a last second push from the NRSC and support from Red Staters not intent on destroying her because she embarrasses them could and would likely put her over the top…and possibly make her #50 so why wouldn’t you, in the final push…put troops on the ground, money, and a little moral support from the top of the party to close it out?

            I dn’t know you and haven’t debated you enough to know where you are coming from so I’ll not attribute motives to you any more on this

            Let’s just leave it at this….there is an element in this party that have a lot invested in the meme that we can’t tolerate a social conservative in NE because “in order to win in NE you have to be socially ‘moderate’, (read liberal) and fiscally conservative. They staked everything on that and their very power rests on that idea because as long as they can ride on that meme, they can push their candidates on the electorate and not have to deal with tradition value hicks and hillbillies.

            Christine is a threat to that Meme. The Chaffees, the Basses, the Danforths, Snowes and Collins’s have everything riding on that meme…let Christine or any down the line conservative win in any New England state and the very source of their power disappears in an instance…all of a sudden they can’t sit back in their smug know it all arrogance and hold back the riff raff. and they just won’t tolerate a Christine O’Donnell win and will do everything in their power to make it happen.

            I won’t put you in that category….but some of us have been fighting this meme going all the way back to 1994 and sometimes in our stridency we through the wrong people into the category I describe.

            So…I’ll back off on my rhetorical slaps…take you at your word…and ask once again…if you can’t support O’Donnell in the final push at least try to do no harm as I have with Kirk. Fiorina, Whitman and a few others I have objections to

          • SIConservative

            I have worked for and with so-cons in the Northeast even though I’m generally more libertarian than they are (I am pro-life and have worked on that issue full-time). I’ll even go you one further and say that the “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” line is crap because Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Specter crowd would be lucky to pass as fiscal moderates. My problem with O’Donnell is that I don’t think she can win. That’s not because of her pro-life position, or even because of her general social conservatism. It’s because she has severely harmed herself as a candidate with such things as the “I’m not a witch” ad. If so-cons are to win in the NE, they generally have to be perfect candidates. She hasn’t been.

            The crux of my argument has nothing to do with whether I like her, think she should’ve won the nomination, or anything other than maximizing results. I’ve had this argument with countless people here over a couple of cycles. The case that I have made and continue to make is that resources are finite and should be used in such a way that we get the most bang for our buck.

            Case in point: let’s say hypothetically there are ten people who live in Delaware who will be involved in campaigns in these last few days. For the sake of simplicity, let’s say each of those people will deliver ten additional votes for the candidate for whom they campaign. Those people can choose to work either for Christine O’Donnell or Pat Toomey. In which state are the votes that they deliver more likely to make the difference between winning and losing? Given recent polling in both races and the propensity of Democrats to steal close elections in PA, I would submit that the best allocation of their time and effort would be crossing the border and going to work for Toomey.

            I’ve also been accused of being overly pessimistic, though my assessments of the ’06 and ’08 campaigns proved out. I’m cautiously optimistic about Tuesday, but I also think “the band is on the field.” I think we are in grave danger of losing some winnable races, in particular CO, NV, and PA, because some people are taking them for granted. If we lose one of them, we can’t recapture the Senate. The same goes for races at other levels. I guarantee that there will be at least one or two “How the Hell did he survive?”s on Wednesday, and there’s no excuse for it.

          • powertothepeople

            there are different periods in political speculation.

            The first is the primary season. This is the time to check into the candidates and raise any concerns you may have whether that be their character, their conservatism, or their electability. You had plenty of time to do this with O’Donnell. You may be right, although I disagree with you, but the time to raise your concerns was before now.

            The next period is the election season. This is not the time to run our mouths about a candidate. It does nothing but harm our cause and give aid and comfort to the left. The reality about O’Donnell is that she has been beaten, should she lose, by us. Please do not clown yourself into trying to claim she is not electable. The reality is, there are many more candidates around the country who have much more baggage or idiocies that get elected. It is also reality that she beat Castle who was beating Coons. This means there were enough in the state who like her at least at that point. She could have won had everyone simply supported her, and she may still pull it off with no thanks to folks like you.

            During this season of the election process, it matters little who gets elected, we need to support them. If Mickey Mouse won, Mickey would be our candidate.

            The third and final season of the period is after the election. This is again where people should critique the candidates.We need to be taking notes on their actions, getting in their faces when they screw us, and setting into motion plans to rid this country of even more dem-lites. You do not like O’Donnell or feel she will not be elected again, this is the period where you raise those issues and push for a more viable candidate. But the nonsense does not belong in period two and you need to understand that. Everything printed on here is public record and is watched by the left, When people like you state she was a mistake, she is nuts, she is not electable, or anything else that disparages her, they see it and use it.

            Already leftist sites have quoted this site and others like it concerning candidates who have been trashed or disparaged. O’Donnell has not escaped that either. We have done more damage to the O’Donnell’s campaign than the left has and people like you continue to damage it more. Same goes for Angle’s campaign. You may have valid points, may even be right, but now is not the time to raise them and you have no defensible reasons as to why you are. Raise them weeks ago or raise them on the 3rd, but now is not the time, period!

          • SIConservative

            You completely ignored the reason I stated for making my case now. So, where is time better spent, Delaware or Pennsylvania?

          • powertothepeople

            as do many others. If you do not feel DE is the place to support, fine. I have chosen which candidates I want to support with my time and money due to their ability to win and their stances. But you will never hear me to tell you which ones I do not support nor why.

            And that is what you have missed. Don’t like O’Donnell, fine. Have reasons no to like her, fine. Don’t want to “waste” you time on her campaign, fine. But with the primary over (which was the time to voice any and all concerns) and the election just days away you don’t call her a mistake, talk crap about her, and damage her hope for a win. That is just common sense, something that has not been displayed on here by a few lately.

            Support who you want and for whatever reason you may have, but for the sake of the party and the cause, stay silent on the reasons you chose not to support O’Donnell at least till the election is over. At least have that much respect for the rest of us.

          • Finrod

            If you think it’s better to spend time in PA than DE, then great, GO SPEND YOUR TIME IN PA. Don’t sit around on your backside whining about other people spending THEIR time in DE.

            You need to be providing POSITIVE contributions to this overall effort, not NEGATIVE ones by trashing GOP candidates, no matter whether you think they can win or not.

            People at one point thought that Marco Rubio, Scott Brown, and Ronald Reagan had no chance at all, either. But other people didn’t and went out and worked hard, and look at what happened (or in Rubio’s case, is about to happen).

          • AceInTX

            Toomey is starting to pull away in PA…If he weren’t…Id be all in with what you are saying here if I believed Toomet was in any real dander…but I don’t believe he is…ditto Rubio….ditto Paul, Angle and a couple others….

            Then we get to your repeating of the “I don’t believe she can win” line. Maybe you believe that…and if you were right…I’d agree with you…but on what do you base your assumption on? She has cut through all the Bill Marr generated crap and has gone from down 30…to down 20…and after a long pause in any polling….there are a couple polls that show her anywhere between 6 down and 10 down…if she’s six down she’s within 2 if the MOE is taken into account….

            Which brings be back to my point…if you have several candidates breaking out vsv their opponents….why wouldn’t you want to put some extra resources in here

            I could also turn the question around…the focus of the NRSC is on Fiorina vs Boxer…and there are all sorts of resources being thrown into that race when it looks like Boxer is pulling away from Carly…

            So what’s the difference in these races besides the obvious ideological difference between the two with Carly representing the establishment candidate?

          • AceInTX

            yet we’re not willing on putting resources into a race that has a conservative surging and headed in the right direction?

            I’ve asked this question over and over again…and I note you have yet to answer it

          • AceInTX
          • SIConservative

            The long and short of it is that, while I think we may win them, I don’t think the other races are signed, sealed, and delivered. You do. I hope Tuesday proves you right, though if the margins are four points or less, I’d say that I was right.

            As for the CA comparison, I think Fiorina has a better shot that O’Donnell. The latest polls have O’Donnell down 10-20 points with Coons consistently polling over 50%, and he’s not an incumbent. In CA, though, Boxer is an incumbent who has been hovering around the 50%, sometimes ticking above, sometimes dropping below. For what that means, check this out: 420168019101148008600325655910. I won’t predict a Fiorina victory, but those numbers aren’t good for Boxer, and CA remains in the toss-up category.

          • AceInTX

            yet we back Carly and leave O’Donnell to fend for herself.

            Anyway…you’re right…we’ve reached the end og this discussion because I don’t think you are wrong….it’s just a matter of strategy and opinion at this point….I think we could afford to help the Nominee in DE you think it would be a waste of funds.

            which takes me back to my OP…which is…if she beats Coons…the NRSC deserves no credit….if they don’t help in these last days and she falls just short….the NRSC deserves the blame.

          • Flagstaff

            and answers questions better, and with better conservative answers, than does Sarah Palin, and you know I like Sarah.

            Christine was interviewed by Greta a couple of nights ago, and she came off very well indeed in that interview. She’s better than Sharron Angle, in what I’ve seen and heard. And she’s doing it on her own without much Party help.

            Newspeople are jackazzes. To waste our time with questions about her high school days or Hallowe’en parties is ludicrous, especially given that they never cared about Bill Clinton’s cigars or his Chinese money, not do they care about finding out any truth about Obama’s background or intentions. You’re hearing what you’re hearing because reporters are both front-runners and lazy. Angle always had better numbers than O’Donnell, so she’s gotten better press. If Mike Casthole had come out like he should after being beaten in the primary and endorsed her, AS SHE WOULD HAVE ENDORSED HIM IF HE’D WON, she’d be a few points up now, just as Angle is. Instead, Casthole joined the Sore Losers’ Club as an associate member and left her to contend with those stupid videos from years ago all alone.

            If she’s such a bad candidate, why did the Delaware party let her represent them in 2008? Are you even aware that she was the Republican candidate for Senate against Joe Biden in 2008?

            Delaware is a small state, folks. If a few things break right, she can win.

            Donate to her campaign, then give some more. It may not win for her, but it’s the right thing to do.

          • AceInTX

          • SIConservative

            One interview doesn’t make you a good candidate. You can complain that other forums aren’t fair all you want, but that doesn’t change the need for candidates to be able to handle them. As JSobieski points out below, other candidates (he cites Rubio and Toomey) can handle those forums. Angle can’t. Because of the potential for a wave, she may win even while ducking the media. Good. In general, though, I’d much rather have candidates who don’t have to do that.

            As for Palin, she’d make a horrible Presidential candidate. She’s a great fundraiser and is doing a spectacular job rallying the troops. I never argued that. I’m glad to have her around for that. I’m even gladder, though, that her name won’t appear on ballots nationwide, because if it did, we’d have a serious problem.

            I do thank you for thinking my comments so important that they’ll deliver victory to Harry Reid, but the suggestion is ludicrous. You also seem to assume that I suggest abandoning Angle. I did no such thing. She’s a poor candidate, but not as bad as O’Donnell, and though her handling of the press has been poor, she’s done other things well enough to be locked in a tight race. At least she didn’t use “I’m not a witch” as a campaign slogan.

            Polling data showing “significant leads”:
            CO
            McClatchy/Marist 10/26 – 10/28 Buck 49-45
            Rasmussen Reports 10/25 – 10/25 Buck 48- 44
            CNN/Time 10/20 – 10/26 Buck 47-46
            PPP (D) 10/21-10/23 Tie 47-47

            IL
            Rasmussen 10/26 Kirk 46 Giannoulias 42
            Chicago Tribune 10/18-10/22 Kirk 44 Giannoulias 41
            Mason-Dixon 10/18-10/20 Kirk 43 Giannoulias 41

            NV
            LVRJ/Mason-Dixon 10/25-10/27 Angle 49-45
            Rasmussen Reports 10/25-10/25 Angle 49-45
            CNN/Time 10/20-10/26 Angle 49-45

            PA
            Morning Call 10/26-10/29 Toomey 45 Sestak 43
            Ras. 10/26 Toomey 50 Sestak 46
            Marist 10/26-10/28 Toomey 52-45
            CNN 10/20-10/26 Toomey 49-45
            Reuters 10/22-10/24 Tie 46-46

            By definition, all of those leads are statistically insignificant, but thank you for playing.

          • AceInTX

            Like I said…can you stifle it for three more days please….and stick to the points in the OP as well…Angle, Miller, and Palin are all quite beside the point but you’ve managed to drag them in and disparage them in a thread about O’Donnell

            I call bad faith….I’m not familiar enough with you’re posting history to call you a troll….but I can’t help but wonder at this point since you insist on continuing tearing down nominees and irritating the hell out of people trying to elicit support for the party’s nominees.

          • aesthete

            SI’s been here since the early days of RS. If I recall, he left after being disheartened by the ’08 elections and Johnny Mac’s nomination (can’t say I blame him).

          • AceInTX
          • blooch

            rebijjeb the troll liked him for it:

            http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2010/04/26/president-obama-concedes-loss-of-house-in-2010/

            I’ll give him this…SI was onto Obama early, probably late 2006 or early 2007, and I remember replying to one of his dire warnings, by saying that even if Obama won, he’d be so bad that he’d get primaried by Hillary in 2012.

            SI, you were dead-on and early on about Barry. I hope you’r e dead wrong about O’Donnell.

          • SIConservative
          • JSobieski

            and I pledge never to bring it up.

            Both sides should just drop it. Most of the “discussion” falls into beating up straw men to a bloody pulp while talking over each other.

            However, human nature being what it is . . . . I suspect there will be nasty arguments on her candidacy later next week . .. regardless of how it turns out.

          • Doc Holliday

            and I don’t want those who are easily disheartened on my team. I judge men (and women) by their character, that will never change. You don’t sound like yourself tonight Aesthete.

            Anyway, I leave this to you Ace if you still can suffer this crap, I am done with it.

          • aesthete

            so that could have something to do with the tenor of my posts as of late. I didn’t mean to score any points or rub it in Ace’s face at all, simply wanted to say that SI’s posting in good faith.

          • Doc Holliday

            that has happened to me a few times, it is actually starting to happen again but I do plan on enjoying tomorrow.

          • jeremyz

            …when his arguments lack cohesion and logic. Typical LIBERAL response, shut down debate knowing that your ideas can’t hold their own.

          • AceInTX
          • jeremyz

            Interesting that you go ad hominem on people and posts and can’t remember doing so. That is a great way to post and lead a diary. My point was already stated and my “snarkiness” is simply a response to yours. My point was cogent and valid, agree or disagree. Your response to it was snarky so two can play in the mud right?

          • AceInTX
          • AceInTX

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          • jeremyz

            You know you are giving most informed persons from TX a bad name. Please stop trying so hard to fulfill the negative stereotype, it is not generally true and is definitely not becoming.

          • AceInTX
  • JadedByPolitics

    Gallups low voter turnout is 18% for the GENERIC Republican and in DE they had the low voter turnout for this primary These people don’t take their civic duty very seriously and they ain’t going to be jumping to the polls on a rainy Tuesday for a Marxist who has raised taxes twice after saying he would not, I say she wins by 4% points…..watch!

    • AceInTX

  • bluerose75

    Did i just read a post that the WA is mostly over….Are you kidding? Well lets send the stool pigeon to Dino Sic Conservative!! Boy you must have the inside track!! You have are out to lunch!! Get real! That race is neck and neck. Who do you think you are coming on RS and telling us its “mostly over” go tell that gargabe to CNN or MSNBC. That race is tied and in a dead heat sir!!

    I cannot believe anyone with a clue of knowledge would make such a ridiculous statement. The momentum is with Rossi and its over…this is no Roy Orbison song buddy!!

    GOP enthusiasm for Rossi is outpacing Murray and the DEMS and she has not be able to close the deal OH NO SIC….WA is very much in play..take your sour grapes somewhere else.

    • AceInTX

      But if it’s me…let me just say…I never said the WA race was over…nor did SIConservative….he/she said it was dicey and I agreed….as did you since you just said it was tied…

      Get a grip and read what we said before you go dumping on us would ya?

      • bluerose75

        Get a grip yourself!! I was not referring to you! I was referring to what SIC Conservative wrote not you. Maybe get some of your own glasses Einstein before you think you know it all!!

        • AceInTX

          Which is the same as tied which you said in the middle of your rant….

    • SIConservative

      What Ace said already, but that really wasn’t what I was going for anyway. Over 2/3 of the expected vote has already been cast. Last time I checked, that’s “most”.

  • jeffreywturner

    So, I suppose Dr. Charles Krauthammer is a “clown” now?

    You people need to check yourselves.

    YOU folks who so rabidly supported Christine over Castle are so quick to call the rest of US names, and then you act as though WE are the bad guys for simply pointing out the political reality that Castle would have been a guaranteed pick-up while Christine is a long shot at best.

    Look, I want Christine to win as much as anyone, but don’t go trying to lower the bar so you can act like it is our fault if she loses.

    If she loses by a point or two, then fine, you can say it is our fault for not being enthusiastic enough in our support for her, and I’ll accept that. However, if the more likely scenario plays out and she loses by 4 points or more, don’t go peddling that line of BS about how its our fault, because pundits simply don’t have that much of an impact.

    • SteveLA

      jefreywturner

      WouldaCouldaShoulda season starts bright and early Wednesday 3 November in all the races.

      Best to save it for then.

      • AceInTX

        and let it never be said I won’t give credit where it’s due

    • Doc Holliday

      the establishment showed itself over and over in this election. And you do NOT want Kristine to win “as much as anyone else”.

      Castle is a gun grabbing leftist, I am glad he is gone either way.

    • AceInTX

      So, I suppose Dr. Charles Krauthammer is a ?clown? now?

      In a word…


      YES!!!!

      and then there is this gem:

      Look, I want Christine to win as much as anyone, but don?t go trying to lower the bar so you can act like it is our fault if she loses.

      If you want her to win…why don’t you try acting like it? The election is 4 days away….yet you and your crowd can’t help crapping on our carpet and complaining about the smell in our living room prooving everything I said above…

      So…if she wins…don’t pat yourself on the back…and don’t EVER AGAIN claim that we owe you ANY loyalty….because you’ve shown right here how one sided that is with you!

      • SteveLA

        Ace

        So those elected Republicans who are going to be elected or re-elected and who you’ve constantly trashed, they should follow your advice and realize that they don’t own you one bit of loyalty or pay one shred of attention to what you have to say?

        Sounds like a fair standard…Cool Beans!

        • AceInTX

          Same standard Conservatives were held to in 2008….that somehow doesn’t apply in 2010

          I’ll wait till Nov 3rd before I get back in the saddle again…unlike our friend here…and I’ll ride that horse all the way till the day after the last 2012 primary….

          Then I’ll back the nominee like I always have no matter how sick it makes me.

          • SteveLA

            After the election, what is the meaning of “Big Tent”, respect for those who you disagree with on real issues and all the rest. Yep I agree.

          • AceInTX

            Is this some kind of sick joke?

            ha!

      • jeffreywturner

        I didn’t ask if Dr. Krauthammer was “acting like” a clown. I asked if he “is” one, period. So, you can disparage him all you want and then act like we are the bad guys.

        And I have donated some hard-earned money to Christine’s campaign. Hopefully you can say the same, but don’t accuse me of not acting like I want her to win.

        Now you people can call Rove and Krauthammer clowns, but they, nor I, have called Christine a clown or any other disparaging name. They have merely given their opinions about her viability as a candidate. Now who exactly is engaging in name-calling here?

        • AceInTX

          again…in this instance Krouthammer and Rove beclowned themselves so…excuse me if I don’t bow to your sensibilities in this case…

          I think the old saw that if you can’t say anything nice, (about the nominee in this instance), don’t say anything at all…

          for those of you in Rio Linda…that means…Shut the HEXX up for three more days…that’s all!

          • jeffreywturner

            Krauthammer has said himself, as have I, that Christine is a perfectly nice woman, and he hopes she wins.

            The only thing we have said is that she is unlikely to win.

            The way you guys are acting, one would think we were out there saying she is bad and people should vote against her in the general election.

            Look, we agree that she would be a good Senator. We have only said that she isn’t a good general election candidate, that’s it.

            Just because you acknowledge that your team is the underdog doesn’t make you a disloyal fan, and it doesn’t mean that you don’t still want them to win.

          • AceInTX

            the problem isn’t just what’s been said…it’s that you all insist on saying it over and over and over again…which you’ve done yet again on this thread….

          • jeffreywturner

            Did I not just say that I think Christine would be a good senator?

            Do you actually read a post before responding to it?

          • AceInTX

          • AceInTX

            The only thing we have said is that she is unlikely to win.

            You all said she was unlikely to win against Castle didn’t you?

            And again…as I’ve pointed out…she’s surging….she could pull it out with some help…but NO….let’s cling to the meme that she sucks to the bitter end!

          • jeffreywturner

            Did you not read above that I sent her money? Perhaps you are wealthy and money is no object to you, but I don’t have tons of it lying around.

            You make it really difficult to be on the same side. It almost feels like you want me to want her to lose.

          • Mike Ferguson

            Saying “I really want her to win!” after a lengthy post giving all the reasons she probably won’t and saying she is “unlikely” to win. Then you continue to argue with the people who are pointing out your defeatist attitude. Sure you are trying to help. How about this…….”I hope she wins.”

            See how easy that was and so much less likely to get you verbally abused on the “CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN BLOG that you posted your early Verbal Diarrhea on.

          • jeffreywturner

            I have said I want her to win, and I hope she does. I have said this so many times that I can’t even count.

            None of that will help her win, but perhaps the money I sent her will help.

            I don’t live in DE, so I can’t vote for her and I can’t afford to take time off to go campaign for her. Sending money is all I can do.

            If I didn’t want her to win, I wouldn’t have sent her money.

            Just stop freaking bashing me and others for being realistic about her chances. Just because we choose to be honest in our assessment of her chances doesn’t mean that we are stupid, or any less committed to conservative principles than you are.

          • AceInTX

            Please?

          • Mike Ferguson

            This is the time to throw your entire weight, heart, and soul behind the woman. Instead you insist on only pointing out the negative and the the possibility of defeat. If you start thinking of defeat you help it happen, basic human psychology.

            However, I can see this will only fall on deaf ears as the point of my entire early post obviously went over you head like a stealth bomber at night. The whole point that Doc and AcelnTX have been trying to make to you is basically accentuate the positive and stuff the negative. Get behind the woman 110% or get out.

          • Mary Beth
          • AceInTX

            Let’s review shall we?

            YOU folks who so rabidly supported Christine over Castle are so quick to call the rest of US names, and then you act as though WE are the bad guys for simply pointing out the political reality that Castle would have been a guaranteed pick-up while Christine is a long shot at best.

            If she loses by a point or two, then fine, you can say it is our fault for not being enthusiastic enough in our support for her, and I?ll accept that. However, if the more likely scenario plays out and she loses by 4 points or more, don?t go peddling that line of BS about how its our fault, because pundits simply don?t have that much of an impact.

            Look, we agree that she would be a good Senator. We have only said that she isn?t a good general election candidate, that?s it.

            Just because you acknowledge that your team is the underdog doesn?t make you a disloyal fan, and it doesn?t mean that you don?t still want them to win.

            Saying “I want her to win BUT she’s a bad candidate…She can’t in” or whatever else isn’t helpful.

            What’s so aggravating here is that you keep harping on how she sucks and ignore what I said…that she’s not the monster she’s been portrayed to be….she’s not been given a fair shake at all in the press or in her debates…that she shined in this Fox interview…and that she’s surging in the polls!

            At this point I don’t know why I’m continuing to type this because you’ll come back yet again with a “I want her to win but she sucks” post so…with that….I’ll bow out

          • jeffreywturner

            I totally agree that the media has not given her a fair shake.

            If the media put half as much effort into pointing out that her opponent is an admitted communist as it has trying to cast her as a witch, she’d be up by double digits right now!

            And you know what else? She f***ing TROUNCED Coons in that law school debate, because she was right, “separation of church and state” is NOT in the Constitution. On issue after issue, she is right and Coons is wrong.

            All this doesn’t matter though, because the media covers for Coons while stuffing knives into Christine at every chance.

            Here is difference between people like you and people like Dr. Krauthammer and I: You are apparently surprised by the treatment she has received from the media, but we fully expected it all along. We KNEW the media was going to do this. Remember, this is the same media that helped elect a disciple of an antisemitic racist to the White House. I REMEMBER seeing her on Bill Maher’s old show when she was basically a kid, and I could have told you that the media would trumpet everything she said in her youth as a disqualifying factor for her in this race.

            Republicans are simply held to a higher standard than Democrats are. That is why in a general election campaign, especially in a liberal jurisdiction, Republicans need to nominate someone who is nearly flawless in order to win.

            The thing I hate most about this race is that it has pitted honest, well-meaning conservatives like you against honest, well-meaning conservatives like me. Please don’t just take your marbles and go home.

            I say:

            1. Let’s both hope and pray for a victory for Christine Tuesday.

            and

            2. Let’s agree that honest, well-meaning, intelligent conservatives can disagree on the political calculus of nominating her.

          • Doc Holliday

            yes that is bragging and that is my point. Most political types could rail off off a bunch of names for each race. But that is not the system we have. one thing about our system, is that it has political parties. Those parties are supposed to support their candidates during the campaign. We have seen what happens when that system breaks down, check out FL, check out AK. The point is not whether there was a better candidate out there, the point is Christine is our candidate. DOCTOR Kraut and NON DOCTOR ROVE did nothing to help the Republican win, and you are doing nothing to help her here.

          • JSobieski

            except that its not bragging.

          • AceInTX

          • aesthete
          • AceInTX

            He spent a couple paragraphs in about how he likes O’Donnell before he went back to all the reasons the people of DE were wrong to nominate her and how bad she sucks….

            All this after I’ve said over and over she is surging…she has a chance…she shined in this interview and the NRSC could redeem themselves by helping….

            But let’s stick to them meme and say it all again!

            Incredible!

          • Doc Holliday

            if they keep trying to convince you of same, be wary. Like I said, a few here just can’t let it go, their reasons are personal and not my business. Why does this guy keep emphasizing “DR.” Krauthamer like some lib would emphasize a Nobel Laureate? Because he is trying to bolster a position even he is starting to question in my unprofessional psychology view.

            In the end, all that matters is that team players fight until the whistle blows, they run THROUGH the tape, not too it. It seems a few here want to get prognostication credit as if only they know the odds at this point. What they don’t get is we know the odds too and we still are fighting for our team.

            What is with this new claim that when the MSM is against a Repub we are in big trouble? When has the MSM ever been for a Repub since Lincoln?

          • jeffreywturner

            Bless your heart Ace.

            If you really are from Texas, you will know exactly what that means.

            Oh, and Doc Holliday, bless your heart as well. If you don’t know what that means, find someone from south of the Mason-Dixon and ask them. If you are from south of the Mason-Dixon and you still don’t know, then shame on you.

          • Doc Holliday

            Bless Your Heart to yourself over and over.

          • Doc Holliday

            you have been here so long and what exactly do you do other than this?

          • AceInTX

          • JSobieski

            The challenge of O’Donnell’s candidacy is that so many people use the opportunity to put words in other people’s mouths.

            No serious conservative believed that any conservative R is going to get a fair shake from the MSM, so using that as your argument is silly at best.

          • Doc Holliday
          • Doc Holliday

            from Delaware, didn’t think that would be so tough here lol.

          • Doc Holliday
          • AceInTX

          • Doc Holliday

            it is never “the last time” when they say this is the last time :)

          • cactusjack

            This is three days b efore the election for crying out loud, not one negative thing about any Rs, just say good things about the ones you really like, and send $ and say prayers and do what your committee asks or serve in the precinct you are slated to work in. And if someone isn’t exactly a troll or a moby, I say, create a new category borrowed from property law: “constructive trolls” and “inverse Mobies.” Meaning, if they are puportedly loyal RSers, but the effect of their comments causes the same disruption a true troll or Moby would, deal with them accordingly. In the 72 hr period before an election, that is. This can only be a place for positive energy and urgent , campaign saving communications.

          • cactusjack

            And I mean that last bit especially. we’re down to “October Surprise” time. Do we all realize how visible RS has become – to the Dems as well as MSM. Space and time are very limited now. I hope the post that alerts a house campaigner/staff to an open flank on their opponents, submitted by a local RSer, doesn’t get pushed out of the way or shucked down webpage because someone is grieving that Bridgewater wasn’t that bad in Utah or Christine’s car registration in DE three yrs ago was a month late.

          • AceInTX

          • Doc Holliday

            I can’t even properly quote text here!

          • AceInTX

          • Doc Holliday

            I thought you would have a smiley pole vaulting or something in that response lol .

    • 6eorge Jetson

      If he was such an awesome candidate, why did the DE Republican voters go elsewhere?

      The Republican primary voters made their choice. Deal with it.

      Go Christine!

  • Kyle-MI

    Neither DE GOP candidate was the right fit for this race. Castle might have won, but would have probably been a constant thorn in our side for the next two years. O’Donnell is better on the issues, but is a stretch for the average DE voter.

    • AceInTX

      • Doc Holliday

        I would start blamming all these concern trolls if i had the chance lol. And I don’t want to hear it after November 3rd either

        • AceInTX

          I had a hard time with the McCain thing in 08….and can see now why I set so many people off…

          but even I shut up a couple weeks out from the election and helped pull the wagon in the end….sad to see some here just can’t…or won’t.

          • Doc Holliday

            they must know they are not gaining friends or credibility, it must be some type of personal catharsis thing.

  • Mike Ferguson
    • AceInTX

      • JSobieski

        nt

      • Mary Beth

        I want to savor their bitter, bitter tears as they announce Senator Christine O’Donnell, Senator Carly Fiorina and Senator Dino Rossi.

        MUAHAHAHAAHAHAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • AceInTX

          I’ll be watching…

          • Mary Beth
        • Mike Ferguson
  • aesthete

    If she loses despite invested funds and time invested, and one of our cash-strapped Tea Party candidates loses because he/she didn’t get enough money and volunteers, that loss is on you. If she wins and makes a fool of herself/votes for unconservative things, and a more reliable Tea Party candidate loses as a result of the time/funds that went to O’Donnell instead of that candidate, that is, similarly, on you. It is not a binary proposition between supporting O’Donnell and watching our prospects go up in smoke, and in point of fact, there are many, many more viable (and more reliably conservative) candidates who may lose due to monomania concerning O’Donnell (Jesse Kelly in AZ-08, for instance, could really use the cash). You’re right that we should try not to badmouth O’Donnell during the campaign (though correcting an inaccurate perception or hagiography of a candidate is not badmouthing). Rhetorical support is a costless resource that we can afford to use liberally with our candidates (at least, until the election is over). Scarce resources like time and money, OTOH, need to be allocated efficiently, and as much as some people don’t want to hear it, O’Donnell’s campaign is not currently the best use of those funds. Thanks for pointing out that we should refrain from unprompted candidate bashing, if only for our political self-interest. However, I hope that by “support”, you do not mean that we should spend time or money on her campaign: it has enough of those as is, and the fact that O’Donnell is becoming something of a cause celebre on the right is asphyxiating the cash-strapped candidacies of more reliably conservative and better candidates who may very well lose because of this fixation.

    • rsexteriors

      can you?

      The reason you and these other nay sayers are out posting negative things is because you TRASHED her when she won the primary and you INSISTED that she had NO CHANCE and now you are WORRIED that she just may win and make you look stupid.

      So now that the flaming and trashing has not worked you start to say IF she wins then “WE” will be responsible for her bad votes. And because we support her other tea party candidates will lose.
      What a CROCK.

      Just a month ago you Geniuses told us she would lose by 20+ points now you say if she loses by anymore the 4 points it will be a disaster and show us what a mistake we made. Keep moving that goal post huh?

      She will win and she will be a good Conservative vote instead of the communist Coons or Castle.

      Like I said before I would rather have a senator with a (D) after their name vote like a communist then a Rino with a (R) after their name vote like a communist.

      • AceInTX

      • JSobieski

        Go back and read his comments from the DE primary.

        The problem with the die hard O’Donnell backers is that they insist on the whole as characterizing the less than die hard O’Donnell backers in certain ways that are untrue, forcing those of us who are somewhat more skeptical once again to explain ourselves.

        I do want O’Donnell to win. However, if folks are going to insist on saying things that simply aren’t true (if the “you” in your comments are directed to Aesthete–then literally NOTHING you said is true), you are in a very real sense forcing a response.

        Don’t create straw men just to look tough in knocking them down. Resources are always limited, and there are always balancing acts in how one allocates resources. To deny that is to deny reality, which is inherently unconservative.

        • AceInTX

          The issue we have here is that the Castle supporters won’t let go of the Meme that O’Donnell is flawed and can’t win. and they say it over and over and over again in a thread where I started out saying she did well in an interview…she’s surging in the polls…

          To be fair…I did say the NRSC has a chance to redeem themselves by helping her at the last minute and if they don’t…and continue to trash her…then don’t expect any credit if she wins…and expect to be blamed if she loses. which wasn’t the point of the OP….but that was apparently like pulling a sting on the pull toy that gives the standard response about what a crap candidte O’Donnell is and what an irresponsible bunch of asses we all were for supporting her in the first place.

          Is it really to much to ask for 3 days of silence about all the reasons Castle was a better candidate than her?

          Really?

          • JSobieski

            I said nothing bad about O’Donnell in doing so, nor nothing good about Castle.

            What I am saying is that the election is only a couple of days away, so I wish people would not find ways to pick at that scab.

            Mischaracterizing Asthete as some type of linquiny-spined establishment RINO is just as needlessly provocative as people being “I told you so about O’Donnell” when the election hasn’t even happened yet.

            I am merely trying to keep the peace and be fair.

          • AceInTX

            1

          • JSobieski

            I see one person above predicting she won’t win, but I am not defending that person. I agree that anyone setting up an “I told you so” at this point deserves a kick in the but.

            People who want 3 days of silence on this issue shouldn’t mischaracterize the opinions of others.

            Now lets commense with some @$$ kicking on Tuesday!!!

          • aesthete

            In this thread have been rsexteriors and yourself. In fact, since O’Donnell won, my only mentions of the man and the establishment have been uniformly negative. (For that matter, I wasn’t exactly singing sonnets about the man when it was primary season, and had plenty of harsh things to say about the man.) I don’t hold any of the self-important bottom feeders in politics in high esteem, and that certainly includes Castle. The only people I see holding on to the dessicated spectre of Castle is those who use him as a bogeyman whenever someone isn’t spouting the party line about O’Donnell (which near as I can tell, is that money and other Senate seats are no object when it comes to O’Donnell’s victory).

    • aesthete

      I wish I’d seen SIConservative’s post, as it expressed my general thoughts very well.

      • AceInTX

    • AceInTX

      and who pray tell are these “more reliable” conservative candidates you speak of? and what criterion are you using to determine that they are in fact more reliable votes than O’Donnell would be were she to win?

      Finally….as I’ve pointed out….Most of our other candidates are pulling away the last day or so from their Dem Opponents….others are stagnating and or falling behind at a time that O’Donnell has hit her stride and is surging….

      it makes sense to shift some funds toward a candidate that is gaining in the last days and has the wind at her back…

      but by all means…let’s continue to disparage O’Donnell and keep reminding everyone that she has no more chance of defeating the gun grabbing, baby aborting, tax and spend bearded Marxist than she did of defeating Mike Castle who was a lock to win this seat and vote with the Democrats like a good establishmentarian would have

      • aesthete

        “who pray tell are these ?more reliable? conservative candidates you speak of?”

        Among others, Sharron Angle is significantly more conservative than O’Donnell: she favors moving towards a Chile-style privatization of Social Security (O’Donnell simply wants to raise the age for benefits), elimination of the Dept of Ed, privatization of Medicare, and is incredibly supportive of the Second Amendment. Miller has also made comments regarding the un-Constitutionality of Social Security and Medicare. Rubio has been talking about entitlement reform, as well. O’Donnell has been reticent to specifically name government programs that she is dissatisfied with, and Pat Boone (one of her early supporters) has said, “Christine O?Donnell can always be counted on to protect Social Security and Medicare”. O’Donnell has been quite ambivalent regarding government spending in the past, so there is some concern that she may not be as committed to cutting it as other Tea Party candidates. This is not a rehash of O’Donnell’s pros and cons, however: the three aforementioned candidates are three Senate candidates who are on the knifes’ edge who, IMO, are more in need of the NRSC’s help than O’Donnell. As you mentioned only the RNC in your diary, I felt it perfectly appropriate to mention Kelly (who is a fantastic conservative in need of our help, btw).

        “but by all means?let?s continue to disparage O?Donnell and keep reminding everyone that she has no more chance of defeating the gun grabbing, baby aborting, tax and spend bearded Marxist than she did of defeating Mike Castle who was a lock to win this seat and vote with the Democrats like a good establishmentarian would have”

        You’re better than putting words into my mouth. I said nothing approaching this, and I hope that you’re right and that O’Donnell wins. She is far preferable to Coons. OTOH, I think that as a matter of priorities, O’Donnell’s campaign should be a low one, because relative to other races, she has both less of a chance to win and plenty of money in her warchest.

        • AceInTX

          I’m speaking in general terms there and don’t mean it to apply specifically to you….

          I’ll just go back to my main points that I tried to convey in my OP. O’Donnell did well in the interviews I linked to and she is by no means the unpolished monster she’s been made out to be….She’s surging and has hit her stride at exactly the right time for an upset and the NRSC has a chance to redeem itself in her case by adding a little last minute push to her already considerable momentum….

          I derailed that by adding in the flourish about the establishment not getting credit…and deserving blame….which I will stand by….but my main points are the as I just laid them out

          • JSobieski

            No reason to dwell on whatever series of miscues may have occurred in some of the comments above—lets focus on the upcoming TSUNAMI!

            We are all on the same side.

          • AceInTX

          • JSobieski

            it was always one of accomplishment. However, once she wins and becomes a sitting Senator, that won’t be an issue any longer.

            Saving the country from a Senator Coons definitely qualifies as an accomplishment.

        • Doc Holliday

          sending more money to O’donnell.

    • blooch

      I’d like to see that.

      I’d also like to see some of those corrected inaccurate perceptions, because I keep seeing the same old uncorrected inaccurate perceptions pop up every time she wins or moves up in the polls.

      • AceInTX

  • rsexteriors

    that when Christine won the Primary these RINO geniuses told us that it wasn’t about the candidate it was about taking back the Senate and Castle could have done that but Christine had absolutely no chance of winning

    Now that she is surging we have the same idiots telling us that it is bad to put resourses into her race to WIN and that even if she does win she will be a bad Senator and make us all look bad.

    They had NO problem with Castle winning and voting like a Liberal as long as we got the “Chairmanships”, but now it seems those Chairmanships no longer matter as long as they can keep Christine from actually winning and giving us those “Chairmanships”

    It was NEVER about the Chairmanships. It has always been about her being a CONSERVATIVE and they are RINO”S who demand candidates that support the killing of babies, never ending spending and Big Government

    • AceInTX

    • JSobieski

      Toomey, Rubio, Angle, Paul, Miller, et al.

      Are you suggesting that their support of these other tea party candidates is a ruse? A false front set up just for the purposes of being somewhat less enthusiastic for O’Donnell?

      That is totally nuts. Even Karl Rove, a man whose behavior re: O’Donnell was totally stupid and self-defeating has raised a lot of money of Angle.

      Does that mean Angle isn’t conservative?

      • AceInTX

        Now I can see why I irritated so many because I had such a hard time reconciling myself to the idea of a president McCain…

        But I was able to finally settle on the idea…and spent the last month of the campaign saying positive things about the old Pr…er…jerk….and I quit attacking him till after the election…

        yet here we are…three days before the election….and some are still on the attack

      • The_Rebel

        yet that is exactly what you have done here. I see nothing in rsexteriors’ comment suggesting a ruse, and I’m sure he is also supporting Toomey, Rubio, Angle, Paul, Miller, et al.

        You’re reaching here.

        • JSobieski

          There are plenty of people who aggressively support a long litany of tea party candidates who have not jumped on the O’Donnell badwagon.

          rsexteriors comment (and other comments above) strongly implies that people can still be conservative and be skeptical of the desirability of O’Donnell’s candidacy.

          “that when Christine won the Primary these RINO geniuses”

          Who does “these RINO geniuses” refer to? Karl Rove? He supports everyone on the list I mentioned? Aesthete? Heck, he supports O’Donnell. If rsexteriors want to limit the scope of who is included in the phrase “these RINO geniuses”.

          The characterization is “RINO geniuses” not “misguided conservatives” or “conservatives who have made a bad political calculation”.

          So the argument is that people not on the bandwagon are RINO’s.

          “Now that she is surging we have the same idiots telling us that it is bad to put resourses into her race to WIN and that even if she does win she will be a bad Senator and make us all look bad.”

          “Same idiots” refers to the “RINO geniuses” of the above paragraph. Again, no room for good faith disagreement. If you don’t care that much for O’Donnell, you must be a “RINO”.

          “They had NO problem with Castle winning and voting like a Liberal as long as we got the ?Chairmanships?, but now it seems those Chairmanships no longer matter as long as they can keep Christine from actually winning and giving us those ?Chairmanships?

          The “they” in this paragraph refers to the same “RINO geniuses”.

          “It was NEVER about the Chairmanships. It has always been about her being a CONSERVATIVE and they are RINO?S who demand candidates that support the killing of babies, never ending spending and Big Government”

          Very clearly, this is saying that people who don’t like O’Donnell don’t like her because she is “CONSERVATIVE” not because they make a different political calculation.

          No straw man here. I am referencing specific language in the comment.

          “It has always been about her being a CONSERVATIVE and they are RINO?S who demand candidates that support the killing of babies, never ending spending and Big Government”

          Nobody in this threat is a RINO, and calling them as such creates more argument.

          That last sentence is a big time straw man:

          “”It has always been about her being a CONSERVATIVE and they are RINO?S who demand candidates that support the killing of babies, never ending spending and Big Government”

          Lets see, I am pro-life, love conservative candidates generally speaking (supported all of the upstarts in the primaries except O’Donnell), but skeptical of O’Donnell in the primary.

          • The_Rebel

            but let’s remember it was Karl Rove who went over the top about O’Donnell winning. I thought that, like Red State, all Republicans would get behind the winner of the primary and not cry about their chosen candidate losing, and then proceed to thoroughly trash the winner. Obviously Karl Rove needs a refresher course in Ronald Reagan’s 11th Commandment, “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican!”.

            Most candidates have warts of one kind or another. No one is perfect. Take Sen. Scott Brown, for example. During his campaign, it was revealed he posed nude for Cosmopolitan Magazine’s center fold. He was 22 at the time. O’Donnell was dabbling in witchcraft when she was a teenager. Somehow the nude display didn’t stop Brown from being elected Senator, yet a teenage indiscretion will prevent O’Donnell from being the next Senator from Delaware. If instead, she had posed nude in Playboy, the sexist double standard would apply and she would still not be elected. At least according to some people.

          • JSobieski

            I think there is an honest disagreement as to the level of accomplishment that people are looking for in a candidate. There is no bright line rule on that, and maybe people draw lines differently. In my view there is a sliding scale that factors in ideology, accomplishment, and communication skills. Different folks have different combinations of the three.

            However, in a general election, I most certainly support the R, especially Rs who embrace the label of conservatism.

            DE was a very extreme example of some diverse data points. I can’t wait for the DE primary to be put out to pasture, which I hope happens on Tuesday.

          • The_Rebel

            “However, in a general election, I most certainly support the R…”, you need to remind Karl Rove of that. If she loses, you can be sure the DE primary won’t be put out to pasture, as he will be happy to tell us all, “I told you so”. A self-fulfilling prophecy.

          • JSobieski

            He should have just shut up about O’Donnell instead of saying anything.

            However, I would also remind folks that he is raising a lot of money for Angle, who is asserting more wide ranging conservative positions than O’Donnell is.

            Karl is not being a good team player, and he deserves a kick in the butt.

            Karl may be a squish, but I wouldn’t chalk up his O’Donnell behavior as a result of being a squish. He is supporting other unpolished candidates like Angle.

          • The_Rebel

            as we seem to agree on Karl Rove’s behavior in all this.

          • JSobieski

            particularly over the next 3 days.

          • AceInTX

            It’s not so much that he didn’t think she could win…it was the days and weeks after she spoiled Karl’s brilliant strategy when he went after her hammer and tong and disparaged the hicks and hillbillies that nominated her that still grates….

            and he’s already been burned for it…rightfully so…and I’m not so ticked at him any more though I will still kick him in the shins from, time to time to remind him of his folly…

            The one’s that urk me are the ones like those on this thread tonight….who continuously move the goal posts as they’ve done tonight….

            first O’Donnell was going to embarrass us by losing to the Dummycrat by 20 points…and its all conservatives fault…then it’s our fault if she loses by 4 points even though they and the people they are parroting in the press and the establishment haven’t done anything to advance the ball for her….not we get the first inclings of…all her bad votes and the stupid things she’ll say as Senator O’Donnell will be our fault…

            It’s insidious…and it’s infuriating….and in many ways I get my hackles up more at them than I do at the Democrats because I don’t expect better from the Democrats….I would think my own guys would be above such foolishness.

          • blooch

            through the whole thing is the unshakeable, and now untestable, assumption that Castle would surely be walking away with it by this point. I’m not so sure of that at all.

          • JSobieski

            the number of typos, spelling errors, word omissions, etc is attrocious.

            My grade school teachers would die of embarassment. Good thing I write under an assumed name.

      • blooch

        Maybe Christine just stands out as the one who belongs on the sacrificial altar (pun intended) of DC moderation. They had to give up somebody to quell the muttering of “extremist” on the DC cocktail circuit. Problem is, she won’t stay culled. She’s been an embarrassment and rebuke to them from the beginning, and it looks like they’re now preparing to be proactively chagrined by hypothetical blunders committed by the extremely unlikely Senator O’Donnell.

        • aesthete

          But wouldn’t it be better to just ask them, instead of assuming that their motivations are malevolent? I’d be more than happy to go over a few of them after the election: suffice it to say, O’Donnell is much better than Coons, and should be supported by all conservatives. The extent and manner of that support (particularly regarding scarce resources like money and time) is another issue altogether, and it is better to approach that discussion with a cool head and somber appraisal, and not rhetoric about shadowy establishment types who are apparently bankrolling RS regulars. (I can assure you that my status as capitalist running dog in the Vast Jewish Conspiracy keeps me comfortable enough that I can safely reject any such offers from the Establishment :) )

          • AceInTX

            I don’t think I’ve seen anyone claim any RS regulars are being bankrolled by any shadowy establishment types…

          • aesthete

            directed at posters who conflate “RINO geniuses” with commenters on RS with a conservative posting history.

          • AceInTX

            1

          • Mike Ferguson
          • blooch

            RS regulars, either. I took it that rsexteriors and Jsobieski were referring to folks much higher on the food-chain than RS regulars. And I don’t know how you inferred my assumption of anyone’s malevolence. Those higher-ups made what they believed to be a perfectly rational political decision from their point of view regarding O’Donnell. They are apparently willing to eat the loss or eat the win, whichever happens. But I also think the “establishment types” are irrationally frightened of her because they’ve bought into the hype.

            Some of these guys might feel a little more comfortable about supporting her–maybe not quite reaching the level of “fixation”, as you put it–if they check out the Fox interview. And If she gets more money, I don’t think it’s going to asphyxiate anybody else’s campaign. Don’t you think that’s a bit much to lay on her?

          • aesthete

            My thought was that both were referring to RS regulars, given that rs’ initial posting vsv “RINO geniuses” was directed my way, and that this has been a recurring theme for regulars somewhat less enthused about O’Donnell than others. It’s all good, though: we’re on the same side, I’m eating lobster, life is good (if a bit busy) and I think I’ll retire for the night.

  • Rod_Patrick

    Donated already.

    Geesh! Ok! Ok! I got your point…. happy now?

    • AceInTX

      Geesh! Ok! Ok! I got your point?. happy now?

    • realisticconservative

      yours and other donations for her personal needs. You guys fell for a grifter. wait unitl the elections is over and you will realize that she spent less than half of the money she collected in donation for campaigning and she still have more than half not spent. You people made this grifter a millionaire.

      • Finrod

        It’s just very amusing that the types that have to call themselves ‘realists’ or ‘realistic’ or ‘reality-based’– are to a man the LEAST connected to anything resembling objective reality.

    • realisticconservative

      yours and other donations for her personal needs. You guys fell for a grifter. wait unitl the elections is over and you will realize that she spent less than half of the money she collected in donation for campaigning and she still have more than half not spent. You people made this grifter a millionaire.

      • Aaron Gardner
  • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

    For some reason, I can’t recommend this (or any other) diary this weekend. I agree wholeheartedly and would if I could.

  • Oz

    If you are in or near the O’Donnell campaign, tell her to split her infomercial into three smaller parts and post to youtube as well.

  • realisticconservative

    for any conservative with principles. I am shocked at the number of people who are living their lives for the sole purpose of having red meat thrown at them by the fake conservative like O’Donnel. The lady lacks a good and honest character. She is a grifter and a joke.

    • speciallist

      ht Blooch

    • Aaron Gardner
      • realisticconservative

        I just cannot support O’Donnell. Anyway I do not vote in Deleware and even if I was a resident of Deleware I would not vote for the Senate candidate, I will leave it blank.

      • realisticconservative

        I just cannot support O’Donnell. Anyway I do not vote in Deleware and even if I was a resident of Deleware I would not vote for the Senate candidate, I will leave it blank.

        • Aaron Gardner

          You don’t live there, you don’t want to support the Republican, you don’t want to support the Democrat, so why don’t you just do no harm and keep your opinion to yourself.

          I mean, unless you are a troll … then carry on until you reach your happy place and Moe sees fit to remove you.

          • realisticconservative

            equals trol?l. And you want the moderator to remove me because I do not support O’Donnell? So be it.

          • gekster

            Can you back them up, or is it just you’re leftist opinion.

          • Aaron Gardner
        • AceInTX

          so the rest of us don’t have to deal with it junking up the thread?

    • gekster

      sorry bud, you’r on the wrong site.

    • janis

      They think otherwise. What I find interesting is that you choose Christine O’Donnell to criticize while leaving Lizza Murrcowskki alone. She is the one who couldn’t abide by the choice of the voters, and she is the one who doesn’t have a “good and honest character. She is a grifter and a joke.”

      And yet you were apparently just fine with the Alaska grifter. Why is that exactly?

    • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

      1) She won fair and square.

      2) She has been Palined to the nth power by the likes of Gawker.

      3) She stayed in there and hit back with what she had. A coward would have run, A RINO would have made accomodation.

      Stop condescending. You beclown yourself. You remind me of Meghan McCain, a woman of no class or principles.

      • realisticconservative

        no class and principles is O’Donnell. She is the one who keeps lying about so many things in her life. She is the one who sued a conservative group claiming that they descriminated against her because she is a woman.
        What courage are you talking about? She is a grifter and of course she would not leave the campaign because she is getting a lot of fools money.

        • Aaron Gardner
          • realisticconservative

            You want to ban me? Please go ahead and show how weak you are for not be able to debate or accept and opposite opinion.

          • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil_truth

            It’s for promoting conservatives and Republicans. That includes supporting the winner of a Republican primary/caucus with VERY rare exceptions.

            O’Donnell is not one of those exceptions.

            This site is private property, and if you don’t behave according to the owners’ house rules, they will show you out the door and close it behind you.

          • realisticconservative

            to show me the door. You may want to ping them so it will be done quickly. Then you feel all happy, no dissent in opinion is allowed.

          • Aaron Gardner
          • realisticconservative

            Are you projecting? This is what liberals do,

          • Aaron Gardner
          • janis

            Because the longer this goes on, the more you are challenged, the more your grammar, syntax, and spelling go off into the ditch. Fess up, little fella, you’re a foreigner who thinks they can influence the election.
            To which I say–

            Obama’s not on the ballot this time. Foreign influence need not apply.

          • realisticconservative

            a liberal. You are focusing on superficial issues (such as grammar and spelling errors) rather than debating substance. Keep convincing yourself that you won the argument.

          • janis

            of being a liberal. And all the while, you make unfounded accusations of a candidate that the good people of DE voted for and chose as their candidate.

            Liberals hate that, you know, that conservatives can even vote in this country. But the ones in DE did. There’s your substance, you idiot.

          • gekster

            Just give proof of what you said about Miss Christine.

          • realisticconservative

            of a Republican primary/caucus with VERY rare exceptions.”
            Really, RARE? Such as who. The winner who does not agree with you 100% of the time? The so called RINO? The person who you do not like?

          • Aaron Gardner
          • Aaron Gardner

            Nice try.

            If you want to be a RiNO with all your Republican bashing you need to find another site.

          • realisticconservative

            abused word in the lexicon red meat throwers and receivers. Anyone who does not 100% agree with people like you is a RINO.

          • Aaron Gardner

            Try again. This is fun for me. RiNO.

          • realisticconservative

            in common with me. I do not lie about who I am and I do not wrongly sue a conservative group. O’Donnell is certainly not me and I am glad that this is the case.
            PS: O’Donnell is $ 50 short from buying those nice shoes so you please send her a donation.

          • Aaron Gardner

            Look, I gave you the easy way out earlier. I suggest you go back and reconsider the proposition.

          • realisticconservative

            in common with me. I do not lie about who I am and I do not wrongly sue a conservative group. O’Donnell is certainly not me and I am glad that this is the case.
            PS: O’Donnell is $ 50 short from buying those nice shoes so you please send her a donation.

      • realisticconservative

        no class and principles is O’Donnell. She is the one who keeps lying about so many things in her life. She is the one who sued a conservative group claiming that they descriminated against her because she is a woman.
        What courage are you talking about? She is a grifter and of course she would not leave the campaign because she is getting a lot of fools money.

        • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

          You act as if C O’D will take all the campaign donations and start a jack-a-lope ranch in Barbados after the election. You remind me of the “sane and logical” people at the Stewart rally with their “I masturbate to C O’D” signs.

          • realisticconservative

            (millions of dollars) and use it for her own personal needs.

          • gekster

            Please be precise.

          • realisticconservative

            that must prevent her from spending her campaign money on her own personal needs. But she has no principles and she is no conservative.

          • gekster

            Well, that takes care your two of your claims.
            1) She is not a conservative.
            2) She will take the money.

            Anything else?

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

            for a guest appearance on “The View” all we need out of you now is a rambling diatribe about how much of a Behar Sharon Angle is for sending Joy the flowers.

          • gekster

            I did say please.

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

            And it’s in Ottawa. The jackabasselope is the offspring of the jackrabbit and basselope. This would make sense, as Rosebud the Basselope was said to eat 50 RINOs per day.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

            She died of saccharine poisoning.

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      for conservatives. First she got rid of Castle, and then she caused the Dems to spend money they don’t have on a seat they shouldn’t have had to spend it on.

      Wait! and a third thing she did, she let us see just who the phony baloney rino pukes are.

      • realisticconservative

        the fools. And yes she is going to lose and lose big.

        • distantvoter

          Then why are you so stirred up? :-)

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

            …ou may well have answered your own question, Distant Voter.

          • distantvoter

            Should I feel guilty?

        • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

          I’d have to agree then, that the fools are excited.

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          mods need to dump your sorry butt.

  • realisticconservative

    well. However this thread is about O’Donnell not Murkowski.

    • janis

      The last part of it is about your delusions about O’Donnell. And if you are so outraged about the voters of DE picking her, then why don’t you go protest to them? Show up and tell them that she’s picking their pockets and being a “grifter.”

      In the meantime, I have every right to ask you why you’re outraged by a duly chosen Senatorial candidate and not equally outraged by one who was NOT duly chosen, but still is accepting large wads of cash for a third party run.

      • distantvoter

        He’s just trolling.

        • janis

          We’re just waiting for the cracks in his arguments to get wide enough that he falls right through them. It’s not long now.

          • distantvoter

            I don’t know why I wasted my time with that post. Well, probably for the same reason you wasted your time responding to him.

            Waiting for tomorrow, when a lot of trolls get silenced (for a while, anyway).

          • distantvoter
          • gekster

            it’s hard for them to see the light.

          • realisticconservative

            I am living in my parents basement (extreme sarcasm).

          • gekster

            And now that I have your attention,
            give proof that O’Donnell will take the campaighn money,
            and proof that she is not conservative.

          • realisticconservative

            going to use her campaign money for personal use has been already established from her previous failed campaign. Now after these elections the scandal of her keeping most of the money she collected will be there for everyone to see.
            Second she is not a conservative and all what she does is throwing red meat and rhetoric to excite the fools. Speaking conservative slogans and attacking the stupid liberal media does not make someone a real conservative. No conservative would lie about what they have done and no conservative would falsely accuse another conservative group of discrimination and sue them.

          • gekster

            or do I just take your sayso.

          • http://theminorityreportblog.com Repair_Man_Jack

            If C O’D had taken her previous donations and bought herself a Buick, she would be wearing the jail house suit. You are a moron, and I apologize if I have unduly offended the mentally disabled. She, like you, would have to be a Democrat to get away with that sort of a thing.

          • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

            nt

          • janis

            God bless you, Moe. We were all bored with him.

          • distantvoter

            or was he pushed?

          • AceInTX

            it’s polluting the thread.

            BTW

            Thanks for taking out the trash

  • realisticconservative

    well. However this thread is about O’Donnell not Murkowski.

  • proudmarinemom

    let’s not feed the trolls today.

    There is still work to be done.

    Christine O’Donnell has said that she paid a local station to run her ad, was told it would run over the weekend, and now has been told that it was overlooked or misplaced or whatever.

    We need to get her ad out via email attachment or FB posts or youtube, etc.

    Let’s get busy.

    Oh — and YOU, troll, GET OUT OF HERE.

    • speciallist

      ..

      • proudmarinemom

        First person to find a link gets our left-over Kit-Kats and Snickers bars.

        anyone….?Beuller?

        • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

          http://www.conservatives4congress.com/2010/11/watch-christine-odonnells-30-minute-tv.html

          • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

            I only hit reply once. It may be a problem with my browser. Here’s the video on her site: http://christine2010.com/christine-tv

        • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

          http://www.conservatives4congress.com/2010/11/watch-christine-odonnells-30-minute-tv.html

    • realisticconservative

      ad on Channel 28 a public access channel that few people watch and during time slots where even fewer people are watching. Why did she not buy more ads on more viewed TV stations and radio stations with more listeners? The answer is rather simple. She is going to spend little money from what she collected from the fools and keep most of this money for herself.

      • proudmarinemom

        You get the hell out of here.

        I’ll send my son’s DI over there to that basement of your mom’s and have him chew you a new one. You maggot.

  • proudmarinemom

    I don’t know how to embed video correctly. Forgive me.

    This is the one I am watching right now:

    http://vimeo.com/16388034

  • tngal

    Here is her site for the 24 minute ad, called We the People of the First State. its just a link off her main site.

    http://christine2010.com/we-people

    Intersting to note that there are twitter announcements where the station forgot to play the ad last night and today even though they’er were paid for last week. The station forgot. Um, okaaaay. As in they forgot last night and then the campaign called them this morning to remind them and they forgot again. Now she is looking for a venue to have a viewing party tonight somewhere.

    • proudmarinemom

      Get this link out to everyone you can as fast as you can.

      This needs to be seen.

    • Martin Knight

      They “forgot” … twice.

      If I were O’Donnell – all my financial troubles are over – win or lose, I’m going to sue them for everything they’ve got.

  • proudmarinemom

    keep their farms, restaurants or bakeris. It will not end wasteful spending on education.

    Where is the establishment Republican machine now? Has Karl Rove seen this video?

    Why can’t we get it on the air TONIGHT?

    I will wait here for your answer, you Beltway Republican sons-of-bitches.

    • geemen73

      Just watched the video, seems like she got the right idea, its a shame that the establishment elite in the republican party are well just Harvard educated IDIOTS not to help her out. I hold out hope if things break right she can win and I hope stick it up their You know what. Thats whu I never donate to the republican party, I gave to O Donnell twice and I hope it helps shut these morons up!

      • proudmarinemom

        during Vietnam. He is a grouch. He did intelligence work at smmsmughdifington and is not easily impressed with political candidates. He does not suffer elitist snobs, city slickers or shills for any cause. He sat here (I made him) and watched that video without a word. When it was over, he said, “She needs to win.”

        That’s how I know she will.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    never cease to amaze me. I have written two, maybe three very positive posts here about Christine’s candidacy, and yet never said a good thing about her. And it wasn’t hard. Not in Delaware at least.

    I simply have no difficulty in making a choice between the maybe-silly and the sinister-for-goddam-sure.

    Why we do this to ourselves I don’t understand.

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      I suppose it exists in all political people, it is far more prevalent in libertarian circles, but it exists among conservatives also.

      It is the tendency for the perfect to become the enemy of the good. The vain striving for perfection in an imperfect world.

      As the Psalmist says. Vanity of Vanities, all is vanity !

      • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

        vb

  • http://www.thejoyofreason.com Greg Garrison

    Let’s hope that this wsj article is right. Via Drudge:
    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/11/02/coons-camp-expresses-turnout-worries/

    • proudmarinemom

      Union members in Delaware are furious at the union bosses for spending millions on campaigns and for supporting pro-illegal immigration candidates.

      Union members will vote against Coons, or they will stay away in droves.

  • CJB68

       In the aftermath of O’Donnell’s loss, I’m in agreement with your comments 100%.  The Republican leadership, nationally and statewide, should take the blame for going the RINO route and brown-nosing for the Establishment media and political elites.  The minute they pulled the rug out from under her, starting with Mike Castle’s Murkowskiesque “Poor Loser Brat” act and culminating in their lethargy against the mass media smear campaign launched non-stop against her, she was facing a losing battle uphill against union bosses, welfare brats and college-indoctrinated soccer moms and corporate chairmen who got out their votes in the bluest county of the state of Delaware.

       I’ll have my finger on the pulse of the Delaware Republican party from this point out.  Next time around, there’s a governor’s race in the mix.  The US House seat is up for grabs again.  And I want to make sure that the man who gets into the Governor’s Mansion can tell the party leadership of this mostly-blue state to go fly with the pigs.

       By then, maybe the Obama Administration and Harry Reid’s Senate Democrats (and RINO accomplices) will do something Big And Stupid? that’ll finally shock the silly people pigging out at their trough into tossing them into the ditch and running back to help set this country straight…

  • flguardsman

    She said absolutely nothing in this interview. Nothing of substance whatsover. I watched her debate with Chris Coons, and she was way out of her league. She’s cute, and personable, nothing more. Now if she had been a mayor or something first…different story. As for the media “double standard”, come on…she was a walking talking caricature. Did the Media focus on Nikki Haley in SC?? No…why? Because she was qualified. She is just as conservative as O’Donnell, she beat the establishment, but, she was qualified. Nominate qualified candidates, and the media won’t have a field day.

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