Israel Airstrikes Gaza

Saturday, December 27th at 12:27PM EST

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Not a lot for me to add other than Israel is about 3000 Hamas fired rockets too late.

Also Ill point out the obligatory:

“The strikes caused widespread panic and confusion in Gaza, as black clouds of smoke rose above the territory, ruled by Hamas for the past 18 months. Some of the Israeli missiles struck in densely populated areas as children were leaving school, and women rushed into the streets frantically looking for their children. Most of those killed were security men, but civilians were among the dead. ”

Hamas puts their military instillations in residential areas so as to use its own populace as human shields.

Also, Hamas responded to the targeted attack by the IDF by blindly firing off more rockets into civilian areas of Israel.

I do want to add this, though. The current government of Israel, to me, seems in a bad position to be fighting any wars. Olmert will be gone, but one cant help but wonder what Olmert, Libby, and co will do to try to get the public to forget about the inept handling of Lebanon. If they do anything, of course.

Will also take this opportunity to remind people that unilateral peace action on Israels part has been met not with peace but with war. This practice on Israels part should, IMHO, end.

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I am sure that Hamas put all the children on the front line as well!

JadedByPolitics Saturday, December 27th at 12:39PM EST (link)

they are the most inhuman of the human species!

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

Lesson from the past

Critical_Thinker Saturday, December 27th at 12:40PM EST (link)

Golda Meir said “We can only have peace with the Palestinians when they love their children more than they hate Israel.”

That will be the day it is over, I don’t have much faith that it will be happening anytime soon.

Bad laws are the worst sort of tyranny. -Sir Edmund Burke

Politics and Critical Thinking

OK, time for me to get blasted by people.......

Kenny Solomon Saturday, December 27th at 3:10PM EST (link)

Hey Israel…… Nice job, but it’s not enough.

Y’all gotta wipe out anywhere Hamas exists. Leave nothing standing. Just do it, because if you don’t, they’re going to strike again and again.

Send a message to the world: As of this second, we will no longer bring a knife to a gunfight.

And before anyone whacks me for “oh what about the innocents?”….. There are no innocents….. not a one. From birth they are taught to hate and kill.

Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.

Kenny as far as I'm concerned you're a pacificst.

mbecker908 Saturday, December 27th at 4:45PM EST (link)

I think Israel should create three security zones.

All of Gaza.
All of the West Bank.
All of Southern Lebanon.

And remove everybody from those areas with napalm if necessary. There are NO “innocents” living there.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

Got to agree

Alberta Sunday, December 28th at 11:56AM EST (link)

Lets be real about this. Hamas is Iranian. Its a parasite on the locals. It is a transplanted gang that has bullied its way into power. Its a criminal regime, actually, having come to power not in those elections people point to, but in the running gun battles with the PLA that followed.

Im for people. All people. Im liberal in that way. Its one of the reasons I think G Dub isnt a doo doo head (liberation of Iraq and soon Afghanistan). But lets be real. If we want to help the egyptian and jordinian refugess in Gaza the best thing we could do is to eliminate Hamas and those who adhere to its ideology of death.

Suicide bombers rarely come into Israel from Gaza because Gaza is fenced. Because Gaza is fenced it hampers trade. Trade is a good way to establish peace. Now Im not advocating unfencing the animals. I am suggesting we domesticate the people who live in Gaza so that one day we can indeed remove the fence. If domestication requires occupation, Im for it.

Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right.
Abraham Lincoln

Isn't this what Hamas wanted?

Justin_Case Saturday, December 27th at 3:51PM EST (link)

“Air-raiding villages and killing civilians”?

Hamas dangerously underestimated the Israeli response...

rbdwiggins Sunday, December 28th at 3:52AM EST (link)

I don’t believe this is the response Hamas envisioned:

The Israel Defense Forces on early Sunday began mobilizing tanks and reinforcing ground troops near the Gaza border, in preparation for a possible ground incursion.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak told Sky News that he would not rule out widening the offensive in the Gaza Strip to include a ground invasion.

Barak on Saturday also said Israel “cannot really accept” a cease-fire with Hamas, rejecting calls by the United Nations and the European Union for a truce after Israel Air Force strikes killed at least 230 people in Gaza.

“For us to be asked to have a cease-fire with Hamas is like asking you to have a cease-fire with Al-Qaida,” Barak said in an interview with Fox News. “It’s something we cannot really accept.”

Asked whether Israel would follow up the air strikes with a ground offensive, Barak said, “If boots on the ground will be needed, they will be there.”

“Our intention is to totally change the rules of the game,” he said.

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

Is it the idea of electing Barack Obama?

Rod_Patrick Sunday, December 28th at 3:58AM EST (link)

The talking points of the ACLU, MOVEON, other Dems in the last election is something like this: Obama will make America “friends of all nations” again. That includes Obama’s efforts in winning over Hamas to befriend Israel and USA.

Let’s wait after January 21 2009 if the Obama can really make a difference.

The consequence of?...

rbdwiggins Sunday, December 28th at 4:56AM EST (link)

Possibly, but only indirectly. Hamas and Iran overestimated the Obama effect.

The Israeli people have had enough, and with only six weeks until the national election, Olmert and Barak were forced to respond. Especially since Defense Minister Barak wants to succeed Prime Minister Olmert.

The scope and duration of the current operation will also send a clear message to Iran.

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

So it's a wait-and-see then.

Rod_Patrick Sunday, December 28th at 6:50AM EST (link)

The Dems and Obama can do whatever comical things they want with the economy. But I pray that they will not perform too bandly with regards to national security.

With regard to Israel, I dunno. Two-thirds of American Jews voted for Obama. Somehow they don’t really care about Israel. After that lesson in the last election, Israel is now really the least of my concern.

For the sake of my fellow Americans, however, I just hope that no major 9/11 incident will ever happen again.

Do you mean that Hamas

Justin_Case Sunday, December 28th at 6:30AM EST (link)

believed it could continually mortar and rocket Israel without there being a response?

One only has to look at the last war with Hezbollah and the destruction brought to Beirut and other Lebanese by Israeli war planes to see that Israel means business. Most people view the Israeli incursion into south Lebanon as a failure, but the overview in my opinion shows that Israel, at present, has the capacity to inflict much more damage on its enemy than vice versa.

Israel sending ground troops into Gaza or South Lebanon is desired by Hamas - which views the suffering of its own people as necessary in order to gain world-wide support via sympathy, thus my comment about “air raiding villages and killing civilians”.

No. Hamas anticipated a response...

rbdwiggins Sunday, December 28th at 11:11AM EST (link)

Gaza’s political leaders went into hiding three days ago. It’s not clear where they went, Hamas’ top leader is in Damascus.

They just didn’t anticipate this response. It was not a typical Israeli surgical strike.

The events along the southern front which commenced at 11:30 on Saturday morning are the closest thing there is to a war between Israel and Hamas. It is difficult to ascertain (geographically) where and for how long the violence will reach before international intervention forces a halt to the hostilities. However, Israel’s opening salvo is not merely another “surgical” operation or pinpoint strike. This is the harshest IDF assault on Gaza since the territory was captured during the Six-Day War in 1967.

Palestinian sources in Gaza report that 40 targets were destroyed in a span of three to five minutes. This was a massive attack much along the lines of what the Americans termed “shock and awe” during their invasion of Iraq in March 2003. Simultaneous, heavy bombardment of a number of targets on which Israel spent months gathering intelligence. The military “target bank” includes dozens of additional targets linked to Hamas, some of which will certainly come under attack in the coming days.

“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan

Ok. I understand.

Justin_Case Sunday, December 28th at 11:49AM EST (link)

Thanks for the article.