How NY23 Revealed the Republicans’ ACORN Problem


From the diaries by Erick.

As the nation watches the events in New York’s 23rd Congressional district unfold, an appropriate title for this story would be “How to squander money and alienate your base.” After the Saturday withdrawal of Republican Dede Scozzfava, the GOP is reeling from a massive insurgency by its conservative base. Of course, the story got stranger as Erick Erickson of Redstate reports:

“Dede Scozzafava is throwing her support to the Democrat, Bill Owens.

“She and her husband are working with union activists to drive the vote up for the Democrat.

“The Republican Party spent $900,000.00 to help her and this is how she repays them.

“And Pete Sessions, Chairman of the NRCC, and Guy Harrison, Executive Director of the NRCC, still have their jobs and are failing to take responsibility for this disaster, instead blaming conservatives.

In the GOP there are still some are shaking their heads and wondering what went wrong. The GOP nominated a “moderate” and if she happened to have big labor and ACORN ties, then so be it. For once, the elephant in the room was not the GOP but this blatant, illogical and damaging alliance it had formed with Scozzafava. As the Wall Street journal reports, this relationship would eventually set off a national chain of events:

“Saturday’s decision by Republican Dede Scozzafava to drop out of tomorrow’s special Congressional election in upstate New York is a potentially big political moment that could help to return the GOP to first principles—or could lead to internecine ruin. Much will depend on how GOP leaders and conservative activists respond.

“Picked by GOP elites without a primary and with a voting record to the left of many Albany Democrats, Ms. Scozzafava faced a revolt by local and national conservatives in favor of businessman Doug Hoffman, who was nominated on the Conservative Party line. The longtime GOP assemblywoman saw herself falling in the polls and yesterday endorsed Democratic lawyer Bill Owens, who could still win the GOP-leaning seat with a plurality.”

Republican liaisons with far left Democrats have already been detrimental to the conservative movement and Scozzafava’s ties to ACORN and their “affiliated” Working Families Party was covered extensively in the blogosphere. Top Republicans chose to ignore the corruption right under their nose and to sell out their base by following the Left’s mantra to elect “moderates”. These “moderates” tend to be leftists in Republican clothing. Kirsten Gillibrand is an example of a local “moderate” who abandoned her principles and base after being promoted from Congressperson to United States Senator. Republicans like Darrell Issa (who released a damning report on ACORN last July) backed Scozzafava while still pursing ACORN corruption.

In any partnership, there is compromise. Some compromise is acceptable, but fundamental values should not be compromised. When conservatives align themselves with polar opposites, it always seems that they are doing so because of race considerations or political expediency. During a panel discussion in which I participated on October 23, 2009, Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media asked why Republicans in the Bush administration approved ACORN funding.

John Fund of the Wall Street Journal, replied that Republicans acquiesced with the pretense that these organizations are doing good work and that race is a major factor behind that acquiescence.

While partisanship should not play a role in exposing corruption, when that corruption is rooted in the pay for play politics that tip heavily to the Left, partisanship cannot be ignored. Nonprofit groups have been allowed to run rampant with charitable donations that somehow elect Democrats. To stop this trend, conservatives must become creative and steer clear of situations like the one in the NY 23 with Scozzafava. If such situations are allowed to continue, others will succeed in dividing the GOP from the grassroots conservatives, and thus strengthening the left.

ACORN is a Democrat scandal and it is hard to separate one from the other. Corruption is the overriding theme and it comes mostly from the left. Another particularly odd pairing continues to be the radical reformers of ACORN and top Conservatives and Republicans. The ACORN 8, a group of former ACORN board members, have formed a Scozzafava-like partnership with the Republicans. In attempting to expose ACORN, some appear to have ignored key facts and overlooked a pattern of withholding key information to coincide with opportunistic timing aimed at aiding Democrats. An example of this is the complete removal of two longtime Obama ACORN cronies from a complaint filed with the United States Justice Department last January by the ACORN 8. Madeline Talbott is described by Stanley Kurtz of the National Review Online as “the woman who first drew Obama into an alliance with ACORN.” And Keith Kelleher is Talbott’s husband, the Chief Organizer of SEIU Local 880 in Chicago.

Version 1 and Version 2 of the ACORN 8 Civil RICO complaint

Another example of the GOP ignoring the evidence in front of it involves investigative reporting by the National Legal and Policy Center, a group that “promotes ethics in public life through research, investigation, education and legal action.” The NLPC uncovered more on ACORN’s relationship with Scozzafava. The GOP seems quick to support organizations and people with strong ties to ACORN as long as they technically are not ACORN. Unfortunately for conservatives, the credibility being bestowed on such groups receives little scrutiny beyond the blogosphere and Fox News . Key ACORN opponents have formed relationships of convenience with little thought to the outcome. As the NLPC reports, even the unions are involved:

“The powerful New York City-based health care workers union, Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Local 1199, also has endorsed Owens. But common sense says that if Mrs. Scozzafava is elected, she effectively will have established a Republican congressional beachhead for ACORN, who would claim its ‘bipartisanship.’ It’s not as if her own party will be against her. Top GOP members sending her checks include House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio), former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Minority Whip Eric Cantor (Virginia), National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (Texas), Rep. Kevin McCarthy (California), Rep. Jeb Hensarling (Texas), and Rep. Peter King (N.Y.).

How did leading Republicans, some of whom (like Boehner) have been ACORN’s toughest critics, come to endorse a candidate with a history of endorsements by its main political front, the Working Families Party?” (emphasis mine).

Good question. In NY 23, the GOP candidate selecters chose to ignore the evidence of Scozzafava’s ACORN tainted background. Just as the GOP and Fox have also ignored the clear statement on the ACORN 8’s website which does not call for not for full truth, transparency and accountability by ACORN to the American people. Rather, as stated on the ACORN 8 website, they call for “truth, transparency and accountability within ACORN.” Apparently in exposing ACORN it certainly does not hurt to have a black face to speak about ACORN corruption. The color of whistleblowers should not be important, but their message should be.

When groups like the ACORN 8 speak to conservatives and tell them that ACORN was a great organization that was “hijacked” by some who had sinister motives, it’s believable if no one checks the facts. How can an organization whose founder remained in place for almost 40 years become hijacked? How can ACORN be reformed if the same longtime insiders are the new control group? This fiction must be exposed. Fox has been leading the way on exposing ACORN while other so called respected media outlets like the New York Times, finally admitted to having been continually scooped by Fox. But Fox needs to report all the facts to its viewers instead of promoting the ACORN 8 and wishful thinking.

As TV/Radio host Glenn Beck continues to expose the true subversive nature of ACORN, and Obama’s radical roots, he contradicts many of the assertions made by this group of reformers. Though no one ever mentions the distortions on air, one has to wonder if Fox is doing its viewers a disservice by aligning themselves with groups who support Obama’ s policy initiatives. As the conservative base mobilizes online, there is a disconnect between then and the so called leaders. The base sprung into action as a subsequent Glenn Beck boycott of advertisers begun by Van Jones and his organization Color of Change attempted to silence Beck and that same base is ready to fight as ACORN attempts to DeFox America.

Those outside of this boycott alliance spread the word on Twitter and Facebook about the Left’s attempt to silence Beck, while the ACORN 8 remained largely silent on these issues and others that concern the very people they fundraise and ask to support their efforts. Like the $990,000 the Republicans spent on Scozzafava, conservatives are being asked to foot the bill for a partnership that was never ideologically aligned with theirs. As stated, such partnerships are rarely mutually beneficial for long. While the Left exploits the fears of conservatives on the issues of race, conservatives must be willing to fight back and respond to the blows instead of merely trying to deflect them.

After watching the ACORN prostitution stings, Americans do not see ACORN as serving a noble purpose and one has to wonder what people were doing on the ACORN board for years. Marcel Reid was active in ACORN for nine years and her story that the ACORN board was “ceremonial” does not excuse any board member. She claims to have noticed ACORN corruption only after the embezzlement scandal was publicly reported. As a former employee who started in October of 2005, I was already calling the folks at www.rottenacorn.com by May of 2007.

The question now is whether the GOP can overcome its fear of being labeled “racist” by the left and learn to respond to these attacks. Fear of that seems to be the tipping point for their ultimately disastrous relationships with liberals who wish to keep Democrats in power.

Until and unless we conservatives form our own groups and become more involved in the communities of color, we will find ourselves aligned with every group that sprouts from the ACORN seed. ACORN 8 professes to love ACORN and does not want to see it dismantled, just “reformed. ” But ignoring the reality of the radical ACORN 8 potentially opens that door to other alliances with ACORN “insiders” who are willing to offer information in exchange for credibility and a chance to retaliate against the very control group that threw them out.


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Two suggestions if you don't mind advice from a nobody

bk Monday, November 2nd at 2:59PM EST (link)

I’m assuming you put a lot of work into this unless it was copy/pasted from somewhere else. But two quick thoughts:

  • It won’t win you a lot of friends around here when you spell Erick’s first and last name wrong in your opening paragraph.
  • Adding a blank line at paragraph breaks will make it 100x more readable, which makes people 100x more likely to read it instead of blowing it off.

Thank you

anitamoncrief Monday, November 2nd at 4:01PM EST (link)

Still getting used to the publisher. I apologize if it is hard to read. I did add spaces but can not get them to show up. Would appreciate any help or feedback.

I did not mean any disrespect to Mr. Erickson, I follow his work and have the utmost respect for me. Just an overlooked typo.

Anita, thank you.

Steph C Monday, November 2nd at 5:16PM EST (link)

You’ve been on the front lines of the whistle blowers on ACORN’s doings for a long time now. It’s amazing how you keep going in the face of the vitriol, anger, and outright lies from that organization.

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Which tab do you use when doing a diary?

bk Monday, November 2nd at 5:43PM EST (link)

My experience is that the Visual one does weird things, while the HTML one is more logical. But maybe that’s because I’m comfortable with HTML. It preserves blank lines on that tab, but ignores multiple ones it seems.

The easiest way to use it on the HTML tab is to just type up your stuff and then you can add start and end tags, links, etc. in one shot. For example:
- Highlight a paragraph and hit the “bquote” button and it turns it into a blockquote,
- Copy a URL you want to link, highlight some text, hit the link button, and paste in the URL.
IOW you don’t have to hit one of the buttons to start, then type, then hit a button to close. Same story with bold, underscore, etc.

I don’t know if that helps any - bs or Neil can offer more insight there than I can.

I probably made it sound more serious about Erick’s name than I meant to be. I was just “yanking your chain” as we’d say here at work. I should have made it more obvious I wasn’t trying to throw rocks at you about it.

I understand

anitamoncrief Monday, November 2nd at 5:53PM EST (link)

I am used to the blogger world now and know that you were not being mean spirited. I really do want feedback and I appreciate the help. I am pretty computer savvy but HTML code gives me headaches. I will try another method for posting next time though. Everything I tried only seemed to make it worse.

You really don't need to understand HTML code

bk Monday, November 2nd at 6:05PM EST (link)

If you do the buttons after the fact it becomes pretty easy. If you do the buttons to start and stop it’s more like you’re actually writing the HTML code as you go along and more confusing.

And I didn’t even recognize the name until people commented here, then it clicked. Welcome aboard!

 
 
 
 

Picky Picky Picky

Scope Monday, November 2nd at 4:10PM EST (link)

I’m a heck of alot more interested in what Miss Moncreif has to say, rather than how she spells or breaks apart her paragraphs.

Should we bet on what percentage of people don't read the content if they think it's unreadable?

bk Monday, November 2nd at 5:36PM EST (link)

:-)

Seriously though, there’s good stuff here but a couple of tiny things make it so much better. I’m sure Erick’s used to having his name misspelled so I wasn’t trying to overplay that.

 
 
 

Obviously the GOP has had NO PROBLEM with ACORN...

JadedByPolitics Monday, November 2nd at 3:35PM EST (link)

because when they had the whole kit & kaboodle they allowed them to run their CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE and did NOTHING about it! I do believe Steele remarked that Bertha was a good person EVEN though she is the HEAD of the CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE! They say that politics makes strange bedfellows I say if you are running with or ignoring those who would STEAL an election that is not a strange bedfellow that is a SMACK in the face of every American who gets up early to go to the ballot box in belief that their vote counts!

The GOP has A LOT of soul searching to do and they don’t have a lot of time with which to do it. They can either make nice with the base or they can go ALL IN and call themselves Democrats its their CHOICE!

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Many "leaders" of the stupid party really think that if they're nice

Achance Monday, November 2nd at 3:47PM EST (link)

to unions and Democrat front non-profits that they’ll like them too. Here in Alaska, I have a Republican Speaker of the House and announced candidate for Governor who likes to brag about how he used to be a Teamster and who really, really believes that he can get organized labor support in his election bid.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT A REPUBLICAN CAN DO TO GET A UNION TO LIKE A REPUBLICAN. They might, just might, be willing to use you for an election or two, but they’ll turn on you at the moment a viable Democrat opponent comes along. The ONLY exception is some, only some, independent law enforcement and corrections officer unions, and even they aren’t real comfortable with Republicans, they just don’t like squishy Democrats so much.

In Vino Veritas

They need to have the story

Lammo Monday, November 2nd at 5:40PM EST (link)

of the turtle and the scorpion tatooed on their foreheads, in reverse so they can read it every time they look in the mirror.

ACORN: Association of Criminals Obama Represented in the Nineties. (jupitersuite)

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Isn't there kind of a weird parallel there?

bk Monday, November 2nd at 5:48PM EST (link)

A lot of Republicans think if they’re nice to people who hate their guts - union thugs and various others - that they’ll be nice to them in return.

A lot of Democrats think if they’re nice to people who hate their guts - terrorists and various others - that they’ll be nice to them in return.

Both are wrong.

 
 

many RINOs are (some openly) hoping Hoffman loses...

JLenardDetroit Monday, November 2nd at 3:53PM EST (link)

so they can, of course, continue that “blaming Conservatives” line of hooey. Nothing can be taken for granted in this race including the same Voter fraud (see: Vote fraud - How/What/Where to look for and how you can help!) we are looking out for in NJ. This race especially will be telling, but the Moderates will be looking to apply Confirmation Bias to any and all results to make their case, rather than honest Campaign handicapping factors - Analyzing Campaign chances by more than “gut feel” or preferred/desired/hoped-for outcome (also: BLUE-ism & Voting Psychology (Bandwagon and other effects) coupled with MSM bias attempts to mold/shape turnout). The easiest way to avoid any credence to it is to run away with this race in a landslide. No positive Polls can be taken to heart and anyone’s guard let down…. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE CONSERVATIVE TURNOUT!!!!

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Everyone needs to get this point about the Scozzafava fiasco:

Read Chesterton in New Improved Jersey Monday, November 2nd at 4:06PM EST (link)

But common sense says that if Mrs. Scozzafava is elected, she effectively will have established a Republican congressional beachhead for ACORN, who would claim its ‘bipartisanship.’

Based on that alone, I would call for an investigation by the US Attorney’s Office into Michael Steele et al for possible racketeering - infiltrating the Republican Party for the purpose of undermining same.

“Nature is not our mother: Nature is our sister. We can be proud of her beauty, since we have the same father; but she has no authority over us; we have to admire, but not to imitate.” - G. K. Chesterton, “Orthodoxy,” Chapter VIII.

God in Heaven

Scope Monday, November 2nd at 4:19PM EST (link)

we here at Redstate were not in favor of Steele, but, the fix was already in. I think it would be alot easier to go after Steele, and penalize him heavily, like firing him, than it would be firing all the now thug Republicans in Congress all the way off in 2010. This keeps getting worse and worse. Lately it seems every day another thug Republican is having light shone on their dark deeds. And we thought Deeds was bad.

I’ve been saying for months “Don’t trust Eric Cantor”, now there is still yet another reason not to trust the great and upcoming conservative candidate, the wonderful Eric Cantor. Puke!

 
 

bk, let's welcome Anita...

mdyou Monday, November 2nd at 4:07PM EST (link)

…and give her some time to get her bearings here. I’m sure Erick will not mind. The woman is courageous and just the kind of person this country needs more of. She’s a patriot.

I went a little overboard - sounding more serious than I meant to

bk Monday, November 2nd at 5:45PM EST (link)

I tried to explain it above. I was really trying to be helpful but didn’t exactly do a bang-up job of it to say the least.

 
 

anitamoncrief...let me add some more for you to add in your investigations...

AceInTX Monday, November 2nd at 5:58PM EST (link)

I uncovered this a couple of months ago and put it out there hoping someone with time and resources to commit to researching the subject and to date, no one has picked up the gauntlet.

The Republican Main Street Partnership, chaired by Tom Davis, and touting membership such as Charlie Bass, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Senate Candidates Mark Kirk and others received a direct contribution from SEIU in the amount of $50,000 last January….another group called Main Street individual Fund who has gotten $50,000 from George Soros…in April of 2004. There is another group called Main Street fund that has gotten another $200,000 from SEIU, I’m not sure how these groups are tied together if at al;l…or if they are associated with the Republican Main Street Partnership but they ala have been the recipients of numerous large contributions from Amory Houghton Jr who is a liberal Republican from New York.

I have recently also come across an organization I believe to be new started by Tom Davis called “Main Street Advocacy” that doesn’t have anything up at open secrets yet…

anyway…as I say…I don’t have the time, knowhow, or the resources to track it all down…but there is evidence out there that the Acorn, SEIU, Soros triumvirate has a presence in the Republican Party and is weilding influence over certain so called “moderate” Republicans in office

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any so called republican who takes a bribe, er donation from SEIU, Acorn, or Sorros...

kyle8 Monday, November 2nd at 6:23PM EST (link)

Should be dead meat in their next primary. If I were running against them I would have that a front and center part of my campaign.

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Go to the RMSP web site...every member is listed and the RMSP did take money from Soros in 2004....and they've taken money from the SEIU this year! nt

AceInTX Monday, November 2nd at 6:42PM EST (link)

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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I will look into it

anitamoncrief Monday, November 2nd at 7:57PM EST (link)

Thank you for the info. I always love delving into new info. I feel that Republicans who take any money from ACORN, labor or Soros is beyond compromised.

 
 

Welcome to RedState Anita.

The_Gadfly Monday, November 2nd at 10:29PM EST (link)

Your work on this has been of the sort for which we can never appropriately thank or repay you.

We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.

-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463

If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?

inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156

 

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