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Yawn.
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Smallest upside. Smallest downside.
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What a difference two years makes for Pawlenty. To go from winning reelection in 2006 by 1% – aided by an embarrassing outburst from his opponent five days before the election – to the Vice Presidential nomination is a big jump.
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That said, Pawlenty is a capable executive, has a nice blue collar background (slightly inflated by the Sam’s Club meme), is solidly pro-life with a good evangelical political base, and is significantly more experienced than Obama. In all, he represents the future winning coalition for the GOP (or rather, if it can reach middle class Latinos along with the white working class, it’ll be a winning coalition).
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This pick shows that McCain doesn’t believe he needs to freaking impress anyone. He’d rather pick someone he likes personally, someone who is ethically sound, represents a blue state, and will not offend any significant niche of the base – in other words, McCain’s passing on testing the boundaries of political history.
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Pawlenty truly likes and admires McCain. But one wonders if this pick would’ve gone differently had Mark Sanford chosen to endorse McCain, and support him in South Carolina, earlier this year.
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If you had asked who the likeliest VP choices would’ve been prior to this primary, Sanford and Pawlenty would’ve led the list. After all the other names being thrown around, it says something about the incentive to pick an executive (in an otherwise all-Senate year) that one of them ended up with it.
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Pawlenty is a better pick than Romney, certainly a better pick than any of the KBH/Ridge pro-aborts, and a marginally better pick than a roll of the dice like Palin. It lacks any of the sex appeal of Joementum (and this is the first and last time “sex appeal” and “Joe Lieberman” will appear in any proximity to each other), but neither does it have any of Lieberman’s very real negatives. I will still believe that Cantor would’ve been a better choice, but we’ll just see what his future holds.
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McCain clearly believes that Obama-Biden is self-destructing – weighted down under their own hubris and a campaign staffed by people who know how to win small-money caucuses, not big-money general elections. And he won’t interfere with that pattern by going outside of the box.
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But if he wants to contend for 2012-16, Pawlenty needs to bring back the mullet.
10 Quick Thoughts on Tim Pawlenty as Veep Nominee
Everyone's saying it's him - let's assume everyone is right
Jeff Emanuel
Neil Stevens
Caleb Howe
Daniel Horowitz
Can We Not Unite
dld1717 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 6:52PM EDT (link)I am thrilled with Pawlenty:
Young and Vibrant
Catholic and from Battleground state
Tried and Tested and Very Popular in Minn
Record of Achievement
Down to Earth and One of Working Man
Pawlenty
Wintergreen (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 6:59PM EDT (link)made a fairly sexist comment about his wife in an interview she was in on. I can’t imagine that will play well.
By the way, despite what you say about Obama’s thugs not knowing how to win nationally, I’m not resting any easier.
This election isn’t about debating ideas and freedom of speech. As Obama’s thugs are demonstrating behind the scenes and what the MSM is showing, is that this election is about sneaking a pseudo-communist onto the country before anyone finds out anything about his past.
He is running for president and the press refuses to take a close look into his background. Scary.
I'm down for supporting Pawlenty, but lets be realistic
Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:01PM EDT (link)1) Uh, he’s many things, but vibrant is not one
2)He grew up Catholic, but does not practice
3) tried and tested – meh
4) okay
5) that’s probably his best attribute
Yeah, let's correct some of this
Ben Domenech (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:02PM EDT (link)I don’t disagree with 4 or 5, but:
Vibrant is not exactly a word you would use if you’d seen Pawlenty speak.
He’s not Catholic.
He routinely polls in the mid-50s in Minnesota; not exactly hugely popular. He nudges the dial – he doesn’t push it.
True.
True.
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One thing about Pawlenty...
IR_MN Thursday, August 28th at 7:03PM EDT (link)…is that he’s a palatable version of Huck. In 2002, the state budget was around 25 Billion. Now it’s nearing 35 billion. The dems are going to highlight the bridge collapse and the retribution that was done to moderate GOPers that voted for an increase of the state’s gas tax.
He won in 2006, in a difficult year, in a knee-jerk DFL state. But, there was a third-party liberal candidate, and Mike Hatch exploded on camera a week before the election. If it weren’t for those two things, he would’ve lost.
Not Catholic, not "vibrant"
Jeff Emanuel (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:03PM EDT (link)JE
Pawlenty's Comment
dld1717 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:06PM EDT (link)Pawlenty said he could get his wife to go to hockey games, fishing, and to football games now if only he get her to have sex with him
I don’t think many woman or men will find that insulting its a pretty funny line
This is basically all true
Ben Domenech (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:09PM EDT (link)Except that Huck is more charismatic and telegenic.
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Seriously?
Wintergreen (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:12PM EDT (link)I can’t picture many women laughing when those words are played in an ad.
Romney Fans Chin Up
dld1717 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:12PM EDT (link)I hope Romney fans don’t try to stop unity here.
Pawlenty is impressive Republican and bridge collapse had nothing to do with him. If Dems use that they are pathetic
Safe
adamsweb (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:14PM EDT (link)Pawlenty would be a safe choice, most other possibilites ranged from stupid to slightly scary.
At least it's not...
Chancelot Thursday, August 28th at 7:21PM EDT (link)Huck. Talk about an anchor.
wow
Chancelot Thursday, August 28th at 7:29PM EDT (link)that’s sad that he could be more charismatic and telegenic than anyone. I feel sorry for those sad souls.
Sanford?!!
Pentagon16 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 7:32PM EDT (link)that is insane. the guy didn’t support McCain, he is AWFUL in interviews, he comes from a hugely red state, and he would gain NOT ONE independent or moderate democrat. Just an awful choice..
Pawlenty is the reverse, lots of potential to bring new members into the GOP middle class club..i love this pick. no mistake, just solid movement forward. Please let it be Pawlenty!
“Small town folks get bitter after which they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren’t like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment”- Barack Carter Obama
Per KOS, Dems may try to "Quayle" Pawlenty
McCainForPrez (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 8:01PM EDT (link)nt
I think Quayle is a fair comparison.
CrabCakes (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 8:16PM EDT (link)In a long lost comment that I just typed (darn Internal Service error), that’s just what I said: he’s no good on the attack, just like Quayle. He’s a nice enough guy, but a VP has to make attacks that the guy at the top of the ticket can’t make for fear of raising his own negatives. Pawlenty is too mild mannered for his attakcs to stick. When he does attack its at around the level of vigor that I get from my university librarian for keeping a book out too long.
I’m not sure what the Kossacks mean by “Quayle”-ing Pawlenty, but Pawlenty’s similarities to Quayle aren’t something that the Democrats need to point out. It’s simply a weakness that the two share.
And Huck is also much closer to being
mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 8:16PM EDT (link)a socialist. He’s never met a problem government couldn’t solve and, even with 10 years as Governor of TrailerTown™, he still makes Obama look like a heavyweight.
Please be joking...
davenp35 Thursday, August 28th at 9:25PM EDT (link)I really hope this is just a sick joke and McCain has the brains to pick Mitt Romney for VP!
OOoooooh
itrytobenice (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 9:46PM EDT (link)Did he really say that? That’s a BAD one. Some things are and should be private.
If he hasn’t managed to woo the wife, keep it to himself. TMI.
Proper grammar saves lives.
Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.
Easy
zuiko (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 9:50PM EDT (link)They’ll just try to make him out to be a moron. The same as they have attempted with every other Republican candidate for anything since the beginning of time. Some Republicans are even morons and evil geniuses at the same time… haven’t quite figured out how that works. It’s only really stuck in the case of Quayle, so that isn’t exactly a sure-fire strategy.
Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. – Milton Friedman
You all missed the deer caught in the headlights look
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:17PM EDT (link)Biden is an arrogant ass…but I think he’ll eat little Timmy’s lunch!
That is pretty bad...
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:21PM EDT (link)there was a time when a man would have punched him in the nose for daring to disrespect his wife with her sitting there…It actually ticks me off thinking about it..
No worries
Cowboy (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:35PM EDT (link)This Romney fan will act nothing like Huck and support Pawlenty.
And you can bet that Romney will do the same.
I disagree with you Ace about Pawlenty
pilgrim (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:45PM EDT (link)I wrote a blog about Pawlenty for VP on 12/5/07. LINK
I gave 5 different reasons than dld1717.
When he runs for an office he wins – even in a bad year for Rs like 2006.
Tim Pawlenty governs and eliminates budget deficits without raising taxes.
Tim Pawlenty is right on the immigration issue, and this propelled him to win in 2006. Gov. Tim Pawlenty started running an ad that criticizes his opponents on the issue of immigration. The ad blasts the Independence Party’s Peter Hutchinson for supporting a plan that would allow people who are in the country illegally to pay in-state college tuition rates, which are lower. The ad also rips DFLer Mike Hatch for not taking a stand on the issue.
The GOP Convention is in Minnesota, and the enthusiasm coming out of there with Pawlenty on the ticket will be huge.
Tim Pawlenty could get 10 electoral votes for the GOP that went to the Dems in ’04. Perhaps more if his being on the ticket brings over the electoral votes of Wisconsin. In ’04 the score was 286-252 so a 20 point swing can be very big.
Ben, why do you think Paws is better than Mitt? - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:51PM EDT (link)1
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
well argued pilstradamus - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:54PM EDT (link)1
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Its not really a 'safe' pick
SirGladiator (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 10:54PM EDT (link)I dont understand how Pawlenty can be considered a ‘safe’ pick, unless you think ‘safe’ and ‘boring’ mean the exact same thing. With all the Hillary supporters and Independent Women out there undecided, who are ultimately going to decide this election, there’s really nothing ‘safe’ about picking someone who doesn’t appeal to them. He needed to pick a woman to appeal to those key voters, by picking Pawlenty, who no doubt is a great person and certainly is right on all the important issues as far as I know, he’s really thumbing his nose at those voters, and that can’t possibly be anybody’s definition of ‘safe’.
Rs don't do identity politics. That's a D thing
pilgrim (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:01PM EDT (link)Rs select leaders and candidates on the basis of principles instead of group identity. On the basis of principles Pawlenty is a safe choice.
I don't disagree on his qualifications...
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:01PM EDT (link)though I don’t think they’re as impressive as you make them out to be…
I’m talking about the way he comes across…I’ll admit ignorance about him because I’ve never paid much attention to him…I’ve seen him interviewed twice…I was underwhelmed…and I remember thinking…”why would he be considered”
and the deer caught in the headlights was my first and lasting impression.
sorry…that’s the way I took it.
results are more important than TV interview impressions
pilgrim (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:12PM EDT (link)The TV reporters are in the tank for the Ds and always have been. They will try to frame the narrative of the impression they want you to have.
Dan Quayle is not what they led you to believe he was. He won every election he ran in until the ‘read my lips’ line by Bush the elder and 3rd party Perot in 1992, and this includes a surprising defeat of an incumbent Sen. Birch Bayh. Dan Quayle was shrewd, and he knew how to win an election.
Paw-who?
JustLeaveMeAlone (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:21PM EDT (link)Vibrant? More like boring.
Outside of the upper Midwest and other Tundra-like regions, has anyone ever heard of him?
Sorry, folks. But I think McCain would have done well NOT to pick another white guy in a dark suit.
As far as his credentials to be commander-in-chief, what are they? Because let’s face it: at McCain’s age, the odds increase that his Veep may have to fill that role at some point.
This pick will really bum me out. Is it too late to draft Kay Bailey Hutchison?
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
I'm not one to be swayed by the media spin on anything...
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, August 28th at 11:34PM EDT (link)The first time I saw him interviewed was on MTP with Russert…the second I think it was Hannity…I’m admitting they were first impressions…and I’m ignorant about Pawlenty…but my first impressions of him were “lightweight” I hope I’m wrong if he’s the #2…but he definitely came across as the deer in the headlights to me…
I take issue with #2 and #5...
Josh Painter (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 12:42AM EDT (link)The cigarette tax wasn’t a tax?
If Pawlenty couldn’t deliver Minnesota for McCain in the primaries (Romney crushed McCain in MN by 19 points), how can he possibly deliver it in the general?
JP
“An armed society is a polite society” – Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)
Huck?
Patrick Friday, August 29th at 2:07AM EDT (link)Gov. Huckabee, you will recall, partnered with McCain in SC primary to win it for Huck and get Romney out of the race….was there a prearranged backside payoff (VP)? If so, McCain will show that he can surprise people.
Nothing says “Peace out” quite like a US aircraft carrier task force deployed off the coast of a tin-horn dictator’s capital.
Huckabee has said today it is not him
Brian Simpson (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 2:13AM EDT (link)He said so in very certain terms. He says he was never even vetted. So, no Huck.
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underwhelmed
nobob Friday, August 29th at 2:21AM EDT (link)better than Quayle? Sacrificial Lamb? Cannon Fodder? but just maybe he’s got game…
I'm from Texas
PostalMed (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 2:40AM EDT (link)and I can definitely tell you that Kay Bailey Hutchison would be a bad pick. Though at least 10 years younger than McCain, she looks as old or older than he does. She is not a great public speaker. Also she is not conservative enough to shore up the support from the right wing of the Republican party that McCain desperately needs to win in November. (No matter how much he pulls from the center, if he loses the right wing, he’s toast.)
As for Pawlenty, I agree with the idea that he’s a “safe” choice. But McCain doesn’t need safe. He needs excitement, he needs a bolt of lightning in his campaign. He needs to do something to show that he can be an agent of change (without having to crow about it like Obama).
I am hoping against all hope to see Sarah Palin standing beside McCain in Dayton later this AM.
Palin is young (compared to McCain), but unlike a much younger man, this will not accenutate McCain’s age. McCain is running as the maverick, trying to end corruption and earmarks in Washington, and Palin fits right in with him on this. And Palin is, for a politician, an expert on energy policy, especially regarding oil. And energy (Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less! Or at least keep American money in America!) can be the issue McCain uses to run over Obama if it’s done correctly. She’ll attract some of the disgruntled Hillary vote. She’ll be able to connect to the “common man”; she has a working class background and her husband is a commercial fisherman. She’ll be able to address women’s issues and childrens’ health issues from a conservative point of view. And, unlike just about any of the other women being considered, she can viably be considered to serve as VP while being groomed to be the first women President of the United States after McCain steps aside in 4 or 8 years.
What’s not to like about a Palin vice presidency?
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ObamaCare delenda est!!!
Yes, a woman
PostalMed (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 2:41AM EDT (link)and the right woman is Sarah Palin!
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ObamaCare delenda est!!!
Pawlenty's favors fish o'er sex
Hammer2008 (Diary) Friday, August 29th at 3:03AM EDT (link)Sadly, yes, he did say it. Not a great way to pull in the Hillary dispora. The fishy details here
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loosegoose2287 Friday, August 29th at 7:16AM EDT (link)McCain has proven he’s better at keeping a secret than Obama.