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The Automaker Bailout and Obama’s First Hundred Days

You know already that Congress scuttled Plan A of the automaker bailout. The outlines of Plan B are now becoming clear. Per President Bush’s announcement last Friday (and subsequent publication of “term sheets” by the Treasury) the Administration will extend about $17 billion in grants (euphemistically called “loans”) to General Motors and Chrysler.

The terms and conditions of this capital infusion will be identical in most respects to what Senate Republicans rejected on December 11. It’s anticipated that the deal will close on December 29, which is not a day too soon for General Motors.

Now of course Ron Gettelfinger, the leader of the United Auto Workers, got himself quoted far and wide this weekend. He said that his union is being “singled out” to take the pain in the coming inevitable restructuring of the auto industry.

If you’ve been around business or finance people, you know what “restructuring” means. In this context, it’s a euphemism for “fire a lot of people and get a lot smaller.”

You may think Gettelfinger is just being disingenuous. He’s not. In reality, he’s positioning himself for the epic political battle that will come early in 2009.

Let me tell you what to expect.

The Treasury has to make a deal with GM and Chrysler in the few remaining days of this year. The process by which the deal will be made differs substantially from the legislative effort that failed.

The Administration (with the encouragement of Congressional Democrats) will broadly interpret the constraints of the TARP financial-industry bailout legislation.

That will allow them to use what’s left of the first $350 billion tranche of the TARP bailout fund. It means about $4 billion each, immediately, for GM and Chrysler, with a bit more to follow in January.

Since this is an administrative arrangement rather than legislation, you’re not going to see the public grandstanding, demagogy, and back-channel horsetrading that comes with the territory on Capitol Hill.

Instead, they’ll cut this deal with the automakers much as any cash-crunched business would arrange emergency financing from existing investors.

For one thing, that means that the automakers can not commit to wage and benefit reductions by the UAW. The UAW isn’t a party to the negotiation. Management can probably commit to “best efforts” to get concessions from the union, but that’s as far as they can possibly go.

That’s why Gettelfinger was apparently speaking out of school this weekend when he made his remarks about being “singled out.”

The politics of the issue has, I believe, been a great big surprise to all the principals of the drama, from the automakers to the union to the Congressional leadership. With phrases like “Bailout Nation” being thrown around the country, the popular mood is violently opposed to a taxpayer bailout of Detroit.

This is going to be an absolutely critical aspect of the next few months that you need to pay a lot of attention to.

And the thing that the American people have not been adequately prepared for (except for people who read RedState), is this:

We won’t be done bailing out General Motors and Chrysler if we give them $17 billion now.

Keep saying that to yourself, over and over, until you’ve got it memorized. That’s what will make this debate hot as a firecracker next year, and will consume Obama’s First Hundred Days.™

If car sales continue their current trend, GM is out of cash (I mean bone-dry out of cash, not even enough to pay the light bill) by late December or early January. The current Bush proposal gives them about $13 billion in several tranches. That only gets them to early or mid-March.

That means there will be a second bailout to follow this one, just as night follows day. Congress can’t start working on the second bailout any later than early February if they have any hope of completing it in time.

And after the next bailout of GM and Chrysler, there will probably be a third, and a fourth, and even more. We’re looking at an open-ended public commitment to these two failed companies. It simply isn’t credible for them to totally rationalize their cost structures before March 31.

But let’s put on the rose-colored glasses and assume that GM and Chrysler really could present a “viable” restructuring plan by the March 31 deadline. If the restructuring is phony, we’ll be propping up these companies with public money indefinitely.

And if the restructuring is proper, then the amount of lost jobs, bankrupt suppliers, closed dealerships, and retiree health benefits would still necessitate a public bailout that could easily exceed $100 billion.

It’s been pointed out that GM’s management have been wearing rose-colored glasses, predicting a future recovery for the economy and for car sales that is far from likely to materialize.

This isn’t true. When they first went up to Congress in late November, they definitely were trying to deny reality. I was told by industry representatives at that time that the North America vehicle market would be back up to 17 million units by 2010.

Like hell it will! 12 million would be pushing it.

However, in the recovery plan which GM presented to Congress on December 2, which I read carefully, they did use 12 million as a baseline market size for the next several years. To that extent, they’re facing reality. And they probably couldn’t have produced that business plan in two weeks over a major holiday if they had to make it up from scratch, so I think we’re seeing what their real thinking was all along.

I do, however, think they (meaning GM’s management) were badly surprised by the fact that Congress didn’t just roll over and play dead when they came asking for a handout. This speaks to the same kind of arrogance that led a former GM executive to tell Congress nearly sixty years ago that “what’s good for GM is good for America.” Facing imminent and ignominious death does seem to have a concentrating effect on people’s minds.

And that leaves the UAW and the Congressional Democrats. They had an incredible arrogance of their own when they proposed a bailout that expressly stipulated no concessions whatsoever from the union. Did they learn their lesson from their failure in Congress and the public outcry, as the management did?

That remains to be seen. And that also will be the most compelling and important thing about the political battle to come in January and February over the second (and third, and fourth) bailout.

Here’s how it will play out: the American people will be asked to put up an open-ended amount of taxpayer money in order to sustain the United Auto Workers in their current labor contract.

That contract pays UAW members twice the national average wage. Plus, they’re allowed to retire with full and very generous benefits at the age of 50. And, like European workers, they can’t be terminated when business conditions make that necessary.

The American people are going to put up a hue and cry over this, that will dwarf the protests over the Iraq War. You’re going to be told that the UAW contract is the template for what everyone should be paid.

But the people are too smart to fall for that line. They know intuitively, because they face it every day in their own budgeting, that you can’t pay someone too much in relation to the value that they produce. That way lies bankruptcy.

This controversy is going to be a great big surprise for the UAW and the Democrats, who seem to be assuming that the people will roll over and do whatever they’re told.

And it’s going to consume Obama’s First Hundred Days. At the same time, Congress will have to work on his proposal to deficit-spend about $850 billion on roads and bridges to nowhere, and on new HVAC and computer equipment purchased from China for schools and federal buildings.

God help us if there’s an international crisis.

COMMENTS

  • bs

    It is patently obvious that GWB just flipped his middle finger to the American people and said “I could give a s— what you think – I’m going to give them the money anyway”. It appears that putting legislation in front of Congress is a worthless endeavor if the POTUS wants to do something badly enough. The will of the people and the vote of Congress has been flippantly ignored.

    It seems to me that we have no say in the matter. We have to sit by helplessly while we take it in the nether regions. A “hue and cry” appears to be a waste of breath.

    George Bush cannot be out of office soon enough. At least I expect a screw job from Obama.

    • Francis Cianfrocca

      The people can put an awful lot of pressure on Congress. In fact, that’s what this website is all about.

      • IJB

        …It will be politically disastrous for him and the Dems. It will make ‘Gays in the Military’ look like a garden party. (And, incidentally, last I heard Obama wants to revisit that issue too – not smart.)

        Anyway, I agree with you – if the Dems do anything that looks like floating kickbacks to the UAW on the backs of the taxpayers, not only can the Dems kiss Card Check goodbye, but they’ll be ‘in it’, up to their keisters, in a firestorm of their own making.

        The Dems (and the GOP) are both about to learn that it’s a lot easier to be popular when you’re not the one making the hard decisions.

      • bs

        But look what happened already – Congress already voted down the bailout, and Bush just shoved it through anyway. What more can be done if Congress already “opposed” it (yeah, I know – it wasn’t actually voted down – it missed the supermajority)?

        • smagar

          Yes, he kicked the can down the road. But now, he won’t take full blame when one or two of the Big Three (Ford, apparently, doesn’t need to be bailed out–just yet, at least) dies. He gave the automakers enough money to survive until the new Administration comes into office.

          Now it’s Obama’s problem.

  • Joliphant

    I am really not happy with our president’s handling of domestic politics during his tenure. The New Tone (which even he now admits didn’t work) was an abject failure. But this is truly killing with kindness.

    17 Billion is a massive amount of money to anyone but a federal employee. To do this now and then force Obama to do it again and again is brilliant. Obama is going to expend political capital to save union votes that really can’t be saved and its going to happen in the worst of all possible ways, a little at a time in drips and drabs.

    The bottom line was this was going to happen anyway. The Unions have bought and paid for the democrats this just makes certain it happens in the worst possible way.

    • bs

      The public is going to expect him to be shilling for the UAW. He’s a freaking Dem. He’s hopey-changey. Those who voted for him knew going in that he would be pro-union. This is not new news. We’re the ones with a problem with it, not the Dems who elected him.

      Will the country eventually tire of a never-ending stream of money flowing into the UAW automakers? Maybe. I’ll believe it when I see it.

      • Joliphant

        Plus if the president does it and the ANOINTED ONE follows up, he really isn’t being hope and changey.

        • bs

          as long as the Dems are in the majority. I cannot see them voting against their union gravy train. Unless there is a profound, overwhelming opposition to what’s going on, the Dem Senate and House will do nothing. They will allow it to continue unabated. Right now the outcry is tepid. Even here, when Bush announced this thing last week, the response from the Redstate regulars was muted. I made a comment to this effect to some of the other RS contributors, and the response was something to the effect that people are “bailout-numbed”. I think that was an accurate assessment.

          You’re right about the hopey-changey thing, though.

          (Oh, and glad to see you back here, J. You were missed)

          • Joliphant

            And you are right. This will happen. I am just seeing that it can be easy or it can be hard for the Dems. I think the president has gone a long way to making it hard.

      • Francis Cianfrocca

        So I get to talk to radio hosts and listener call-ins in different parts of the country.

        I’m here to tell you that there are a lot of ordinary people out there who are mad as hell about this bailout. And they’re specifically angry because they think they’re being asked to pay higher taxes to people (namely the unionized autoworkers) who already make more than they do.

        One question I get from almost everyone is: “Why is it so darned hard for those people just to see reality and take a pay cut? They won’t really be that much worse off, and most of them can afford it just fine.”

        Forget that this attitude totally ignores the whole essence of labor negotiations: NEVER give anything back. The point is that people are thinking this way, and they will need to see some good answers.

        • bs

          If people ARE mad as hell, then they will have to do something about it. They are pushing a boulder uphill with a union Democrat-controlled Congress. There will need to be massive demonstrations by the American public on this, or nothing will happen

          Francis, my anger on this stems from the fact that George Bush is pushing this through, and there appears to be no way to stop it. There’s no legislative vote, no nothing. It’s a unilateral move by a lame-duck President who has absolutely no accountability to anyone. And I cannot imagine that the incoming President-Elect (we can now say that officially) is going to rock the boat with his union buddies and change things any (ht to Joliphant for pointing out that there’s no change here…) from what Bush is doing.

          I feel powerless, and I suspect the American public does as well. Yeah, I can write a front-page screed here on RS and churn up our conservative friends here, but it’s the Left that needs to get religion on this. And that’ll only come from a flood of input from their constituents.

          • JDidSaint

            …seems to be growing everyday. The envy that Francis was talking about is a huge motivator and is being contributed to by the flagrant injustice on the part of bailout proponents. As belts continue to tighten nationwide and people turn their thermostats down from 68 to 66 to 64, more and more attention will be paid to who “FDIC” is and why they get such a high percent of each pay check.

            Add to this the dirty politics of Chicago, the likelihood of a great fallout there, and the potential for more union scandals as they try to shore up funds lost in the market… It’s looking like 2009 will be a great time to be a conservative!

        • bk

          in 2010 we’ll be seeing ads aimed at the middle class along the lines of: “Remember the tax cut you were promised by the Democrats? Well instead of giving it to you, they’re giving it in the form of bailouts to guys in Detroit making twice what you are – whether they are actually building cars or playing video games – so that they don’t have to suffer. Is that the sort of hope and change you voted for in 2008?”

      • smagar

        Will Dem senators in states that have foreign carmakers be in such a hurry to vote for cloture on a second, third, fourth bailout bill?

        How about Dem Senators from states that don’t have strong union presences? For example, Salazar’s appointed replacement in Colorado? Or, Blance Lincoln?

        Much, much potential for mischief, if we’re willing to fight a ruthless partisan guerilla war.

        Something tells me that Mitch McConnell isn’t in too much of a New Tone mood, after the slime the Dems threw at him this past election.

  • midnightduck

    While the dems are naval gazing about cars and bridges and green stuff. When we complain the threats will come. “We can’t let michigan fail” I have bad news it alreay has failed. The question is how to put it back on it’s feet. More random thoughts later

  • char

    in the first 100 days means a strongly anti business agenda. In a recession!

  • mdkess

    The biggest problem with the UAW is not that they’re a union, but how corrupt and powerful they’ve become. $30/hr + benefits isn’t killing The General, it’s that coming to work drunk means that you are sent home with a day’s pay. Smoking crack at work? Well, we hit our productivity targets, so who cares! America needs a place for people who work with their hands rather than just their fingers, and I don’t think that just because you are a blue collar worker, you should be denied the right to raise a family.

    The problem here though is that right now, Toyota and Honda keep their pay at about the UAW level (I believe within $2/hr of the equivalent GM worker’s pay). This is not out of the goodness of their hearts, but out of a desire to stop the union from entering and destroying their plants. However, once the UAW collapses, and pay drops to around $15/hr, the Japanese will surely follow suit, and all of a sudden you have a drastic reduction in the buying power of a huge number of consumers. I think that as the Japanese have demonstrated, the current wage levels are supportable, providing that you have a workforce that does not come to work drunk and still get paid for it. While I don’t think that jobs should be unnecessarily protected, especially now this loss of buying power would be felt far and wide.

    I don’t know what the right answer is – it seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. I think that Gettelfinger is quite right when he says that the union is being singled out. Certainly, they are a major part of the problem, but they are not the only part of the problem. GM and Chrysler have both failed to surpass the Japanese in terms of quality, and while the gap is certainly smaller than it used to be, that there is still a gap shows the great apathy of the management of these companies.

    • Francis Cianfrocca

      A lot of what you’re saying is conventional wisdom (the pay scales are actually the same; Detroit’s quality isn’t as good; Gettelfinger is right), which I usually ignore.

      You’re locating a certain part of Detroit’s problem in productivity lapses caused by drunkenness and drug use by their workers. Unless you’re saying (and are willing to prove) that Americans who work in US-sited assembly plants owned by foreign companies don’t drink or do crack at the same level, it’s hard to agree with that.

      But the thing that caught my eye was your point about purchasing power. It’s a fallacy that you can increase purchasing power by increasing wages past the point at which they are justified by the economic value that is produced by the labor.

      There are a lot of different ways this can play out, but one of the simplest is this: if you forcibly overpay an autoworker (or a teacher, or a firefighter, or a worker in the soon-to-be-unionized healthcare industry), then you’re necessarily displacing resources that should go elsewhere in the economy. Long story short, you put somebody else out of work altogether.

      And over time, the economy grows below its native capacity because of the inefficiency and the misallocated resources. So the dollars that you’re using to overpay the autoworkers end up with less real purchasing power than would be the case if labor costs were allowed to find their own level.

      The other thing to keep in mind is deflation. All of the ill effects of artificially overpaying labor are exacerbated when the general price level falls.

      The only way out of this trap is for the government to create vast inflation. Which we’re in the process of doing.

      For what it’s worth, nearly all of the people who are coming to power in Washington and will be making economic policy next year, agree with you and not with me. So at least you’re in good company.

      • mdkess

        I don’t know how it works with the foreign plants, but with the union you essentially can’t fire anyone, so I can only hypothesize that the foreign plants are more efficient. I’ve been to a couple of Toyota plants, and several Chrysler plants (coming from a car family), and the difference is quite remarkable to say the least.

        I think that you’re right about artificially overpaying being a bad thing. My point was more that this overpaying of the workers was not the heart of the collapse, and that it was corruption and inept management which was to blame. That said, I think that what constitutes reasonable pay is fairly arbitrary, and I don’t feel that a race to the bottom is really a good thing. While $30/hr for someone to sit on assembly line all day may be on the high end, I don’t think that it’s obscene.

        • smagar

          The current UAW worker who voted for past contracts that contained unrealistic retirement benefits, has only himself to blame.

          Don’t expect me to feel sorry for a workforce (and retiree force) that deluded itself into thinking that someone, somewhere down the road was going to figure out someway, somehow for Chrysler and GM to sell enough cars each and every year, to fully fund all those pie-in-the-sky retirement obligations.

          Public sector workers at least have some rational basis for believing that they’ll eventually get their pie. If necessary, they’ll simply find a liberal judge who’ll order the government to do whatever it takes to meet its pension obligations to its retirees.

          Private sector employees should harbor no such illusions.

          If the UAW is unhappy, let it go back to its retirees, remind them that they were knowingly living in fantasyland when they negotiated those sweet retirement benefits—and then cut the benefits. That should safeguard the paychecks of current UAW workers.

        • Francis Cianfrocca

          You’ll compete with everyone else for workers, and you’ll pay what you have to in order to get them.

          But labor is a production factor like any other. If you find that you’re overpaying for labor, you’ll let someone else hire the overpriced people and take the losses. That’s how the market clears.

          What if there’s a union that forces everyone in a particular market sector to overpay for labor (or a cartel that forces everyone to overpay for oil, or whatever)? Then the labor market will clear at the higher level, but that industry’s customers will make their own judgment whether they’re getting value for money at the higher prices.

          And if the overpriced product or service is something you must purchase or are legally required to purchase (such as government), then the inefficiency comes off the top of the economy as a whole.

          There’s nothing arbitrary about this. If you try to distort markets, markets will *instantly and automatically* find a way to balance. It very often happens that this is socially desirable. But there should never be any doubt that the cost is real.

  • Achance

    In my days of dealing with unions from the employer side I had a simple guiding principle in times of true conflict: They can’t scream if they’re gasping for breath. Consequently, I always sought an impasse and placed them where their members’ wages, the union’s jurisdiction, and the union’s dues income were all on the block if they didn’t see it my way. Unions understand doing business this way too. Pastor Warren’s prayer is about the last “reaching out” we’re going to see from BHO.

    They know how opposed to the bailout the People are, even people who voted for BHO and other Democrats. They care just about as much as union brass care about their members not agreeing with their dues money being spent on Democrat politics. What they’ll do is make sure the opposition is gasping for breath. The First 100 Days will give us Card Check, the Fairness Doctrine, nationalized health care, and confiscatory taxes on some sectors. It may also give us a repeal of the “right to work” provision as well as some others the unions find offensive of the Labor Management Relations Act. It may also give us common situs picketing legislation and mandatory police and fire bargaining with interest arbitration. Organized labor has been waiting for January 21st since 1948, they own the Democrats, the Democrats own the government, and Labor ain’t going to let this one get away.

    On the 101st Day, we’ll all still be opposed, but nobody will hear us screaming. The business interests who should be opposing al this will be cowed into submission. Talk radio wil be in its death throes and FoxNews will be just another cable channel shoveling pablum to the ignorant masses. The UAW won’t be forced into concessions and the Big Three into reorganization because the transplants will have the same wage cost structure they do. The legacy HI costs won’t be an insurmountable burden dragging down the retirement trust because the HI will have been nationalized – along with yours.

    I hope I’m wrong but there aren’t a lot of people in the Country with more experience in being the opposition to politicized unions and if I were the one advising a management about what to expect in the near future, the above is what I’d tell them to prepare for and they could hope to be pleasantly surprised if it didn’t all come to pass.

    • bs

      But seriously, your scenario is what I anticipate as well. I think Obama will stop his centrist charade and will shift into full lefty mode and will proceed to begin the kinds of actions you describe.

      • Achance

        I know how they think. I know what I’d do, so I know what they’d do. There are lots of lawyers and HR/LR people around the Country who’ve worked in union avoidance and in combatting union organizing drives. There are only a couple of us who have actually worked as the management opponent to a fully unionized workforce. All the unionized private sector is in legacy industries where the union and the management work together for political power and to make sure that no “competitor” has a labor cost advantage. In the Blue States, the public sector union and Democrat management work together to screw the taxpayers. That left me and a couple of other LR directors who worked for Republican governors or Republican controlled or moderated governments in dealing with a unionized workforce. Frankly, it requires a lot more knowledge of Saul Alinsky than of all the arbitration and labor law hornbooks.

    • Francis Cianfrocca

      I’m not saying you’re wrong. But it surely would be amazing to see what you’re predicting.

      • Achance

        The legislation is all written, has been for years and for that that isn’t you’re dealing with people who LIVE this stuff. Republicans generally view legislation as sort of a liesurely avocation. For a Lefty operative or union apparatchnik legislation writing, like contract writing, is LIFE. Even if it weren’t already done, I’m pretty confident that I could turn out workable versions of all the labor law revisions in a few days. I did a hundred page revision to Alaska’s public bargaining law in a week or so. If this stuff is all you do, you do it pretty well.

        To the more fundamental issue, if they have the votes to do one of these things, they have the votes to do all of them and they have a labor/community organizer in the bully pulpit to tell the ignorant masses that he’s seving up pink Bubble-Up and Rainbow Stew for them.

      • Achance

        Unlike linguine spined Republicans, Democrats know how to use the powers of the Executive Branch. BHO will fire anybody GWB appointed the second his hand comes off the Bible – or whatever book he uses. Democrats have little baby Regional Dirctors and Section Chiefs nested all through the government just waiting for the day a legitimate government was resored, so the Agencies won’t miss a beat.

        So, if I have some Red State governor or AG who’s giving me a hard time, I just have the DHSS auditors drop in and pretty soon that state is a few tens of millions in the hole from disallowed federal costs. Or I have the USDOL guys show up and all of a sudden the government owes its employees a few tens of millions in back wages and treble damages for willful violation of the FLSA. Or, if some private employer is bankrolling opposition, I can show them the tender mercies of OSHA, EPA, ICE, and DOL; they’ll shut up quickly enough. In a unionized state this kind of stuff is all OSHA, DOL, EPA, and DOJ analogs do. OSHA inspectors never visit the good union contractors and the Health and environmental quality inspectors never visit the union houses – except to get a free meal or ogle any new waitresses from time to time. It’s going to be a brave new world.

    • IJB

      I don’t think you’re wrong on the Democrat/Leftie mentality.

      What I do think is that you’re massively overestimate their capacity to actually govern and get things done.

      One of us will be proven wrong come April.

      But I have severe doubts that the Dems can pull off Card Check, the Fairness Doctrine, nationalized health care, gays in the military, defense cuts and higher taxes when the unemployment rate will be hitting 9-10% or higher.

      I’ve seen Democrat government in action before – they’re the guys that can’t shoot straight, and they’ll be engaged in a circular firing squad (now, made even worse by the nutroots!) come about February 20.

      • Achance
  • birdmojo

    Lotta folks will be doing their taxes, lotta folks will have looked at their IRA sheets for the first time since they promised themselves that they weren’t going to look at it…

    How will the bailout be polling?

    A followup: Do you think that Obama is more likely to govern according to polls or do you think that he’s more likely to follow whatever principles that he has (Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist, Castroist, or more non-denominationally Marxist)?

  • Alberta

    You say that: And if the restructuring is proper, then the amount of lost jobs, bankrupt suppliers, closed dealerships, and retiree health benefits would still necessitate a public bailout that could easily exceed $100 billion.

    I dont understand this. Could you please explain it? Why would the tax payer be on the hook for GMs obligations to its workers in regards to health and pension funds?

    • Francis Cianfrocca

      They’re too big for the markets they’re in (in North America, anyway), and they have the wrong product mix. That means they have to lay off a lot of people, terminate a lot of supplier relationships (causing further job losses and some bankruptcies) and pay to close unneeded dealerships.

      That’s a lot of lost jobs in a weak economy, hence a lot of unemployment compensation.

      They’ll also need to screw their long-term bondholders out of maybe 70 cents on the dollar. That’s maybe $40 billion in privately-held asset value that will vaporize. (Actually, the market has already marked this debt down even lower than that, but in a restructuring, existing holders will need to mark to market and realize the loss.)

      • Alberta

        Their gonna have to restructure eventually, though.

        I liked your idea about GM not operating in North America anymore, it makes a lot of sense. Too bad they wont.

        • bk

          They would only NEED to restructure if a bankruptcy judge forced them to. And the old President and Congress have said we CAN’T let them go to bankruptcy and the new President and Congress will do the same.

          It’s obvious that the current President and Congress were not going to try to force it (partly because it would get reversed in a month) and you know damn good and well that the new Congress will not force anything except on management.

          So UAW workers will keep getting paid, regular people won’t have the money to buy cars, the Big Three will keep going downhill, and Obama and the Dems will keep voting for bailouts. Only a revolt at the polls in 2010 will change anything. Until then, we know what’s going to happen for the most part.

  • redneck_hippie

    the inevitable.

    If the domestic automakers can’t “merger” their way out of this, they will go down. It is up to us to prevent them taking the taxpayers down with them.

    And I don’t foresee any white knight corporate tooth fairy mergor or mergee willing to bootstrap GM or Chrysler in this environment.

  • charliehall

    What was the total cost of the subsidies that places like Kentucky, Tennessee, and Alabama gave to Japanese automakers to build factories there? When the government is subsidizing your competitor, don’t you have a legitimate beef?

    • Achance

      were the original federal highway network and then the interstate highway system. The railroads had to own, maintain, and pay taxes on their right of way and physical plant. The trucking industry paid very little of the cost of the rights of way over which it operated. The private automobile traveling on those roads eliminated mass transit in all but the most concentrated urban areas and all but eliminated intercity rail passenger transportation. The heavily subsidized jet aircraft finished off intercity passenger transportation except for the largely symbolic Amtrak system.

      Of course, this sort of federal intervention into the transportation markets goes back to the earliest days of the Country. One of the very few differences between the Constitution of the Confederate States of America and the United States of America was the CSA’s plain language prohibition against the CS government financing “internal improvements” to the states. The Southerners believed that US revenue raised largely from tariffs and duties in The South were being used to support the canals and railroads that were moving traffic from the interior US away from the Y rivers and the port of New Orleans to the eastern seaports of New York, Baltimore, Philadelphia, etc. to the detriment of the economies of the Southern states.

  • streetwise

    the general economy does in order to fork over the subsidy via taxes.

    Ugh!