now that I have said that I will go back and read the rest of the post…lol

we could all work at the video store or be WalMart greeters.

Unfortunately, the Obamas of the World really have never worked for anything so they don’t know the value of making yourself worth more so that you can have and do the stuff you want.

…my guess is it will continue to be grandfathered.

It actually has become more of a pleasure to drive lately with all this talk of being green. It does not have any of the modern accoutrements such as catalytic converters and other nonsensical pollution devices. Heck, it didn’t even come with seatbelts. The MPG is fairly bad and the muffler noise level is above most contemporary cars. The coupe de grace? It is has a removal hardtop so when I drive and exhale, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide mix in generous quantities; it’s the triple threat of eco-terrorism- noise pollution, air pollution and gas guzzler. Come to think of it, I may rename it my “Freedom mobile”.

I can’t wait to see the super secret chat room after this comment- although my guess is not much more can be written about this alleged gadfly.

banned lands for exploring and drilling for oil on our property,
fighting about salmon instead of building the ladders around existing dams,
the killing of nuclear plants by the green movement and now they trying to blame my exhalation on climate change HA HA HA big laugh but cost green
Yes I like driving fast and like 4 wheeling my SUV.
I worked hard to take care of the environment but enjoy life.
God Bless America

And EPU or whoever is not the only one that is emotionally attached to his mode of transportation. The anger and resentment that people feel toward “Big Oil” when the price of gasoline spikes up is irrational (and I use that term in the sense that the reaction is completely out of proportion with the impact on the typical driver).

When people figure out that the U.S. Gov’t has displaced OPEC and Big Oil as the entity that’s trying to come between them and their beloved cars, they’re going to be some p***ed.

Not to mention the outrageous gamble that they’re willing to take on unproven and grossly inefficient technology — that right there is going to cost jobs, directly, and all of us in terms of diminished general prosperity.

Here is the link for everyone on Redstate. It is on Real Clear Politics right now.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/04/24/what_will_the_stress_tests_mean_96163.html

Oh, and by the way, great column here on RS too.

A New Yorker might think everyone rides the train and subway to work, so who cares about cars. Catching a taxi is easier and cheaper than paying hundreds of dollars a month for a parking spot, fighting traffic, paying tolls, and so on.

Meanwhile down here in Texas, you’d better have a bigger gun than the Texan does if you want to try to pry him from his vehicle. The idea of driving a Prius or some little tin can might make sense to someone who lives in a loft in downtown Austin and rides his bicycle to work, but a normal person can’t see driving some little tiny box when half the vehicles around me are Suburbans, F-150s, etc. I’d at least like to have SOME chance of surviving a wreck.

Obama is an arrogant “I won” spoiled rock star who thinks a few propeller heads know more than a market of billions of decisions by hundreds of millions of people.

His brainwashing as being a victim of life entitled to revenge, has united the disenfranchised victims of life, think revenge of the nerds. They want to see the man go down for some payback at nearly any cost. Misery sure does love company.

I don’t see Obama privately giving that sinister laugh “ooohhhh woooo hhaaaaa haaaaaa” specifically intent on the ruin of America like some comic book villain. However, I really don’t care about intent as much as effect. If it walks like a duck, flies like a duck and quacks like a duck, its good enough for me.

Well said, blackhedd.

I’ve given up using “socialist” and even “fascist” to describe Obama, because those terms technically imply, respectively, a cult of the proletariat and a cult of the Nation, which usually use the apparatus of the State to achieve their respective goals (freedom of the workers manifesting in control of the means of production, and glory of the Nation manifesting in national power).

Obama doesn’t really fit into either of these, and I’m not sure what he worships, so I simply call him a “statist” because whatever he does want, he feels obliged to use the apparatus and expansion of the State to achieve his ends.

How is it helpful or more efficient in anyway if what we go to for our energy is less efficient, and costs more, than how we are doing things now. I always thought progress meant, cheaper and or better than what was done previously.

The analysis is most sound concerning Obama’s vision of achieving a green energy base, and that goal is a one-ply solution to the two-ply problem, the second ply being finding an incentive for people work (without the socialist method of threatening the lash).

got cut off at the end, at least it seems that way from my computer. Last couple lines are:

But what is Geither likely to do? He’s not
Mr. Cianfrocca is a businessman and investor based in New York City.

Just like that…. might want to get them to fix it.

“According to Shelby, the Ultimate Aero EV will be able to produce over 1,000 horsepower that will power the vehicle from 0-60 mph in less than 2.5 seconds”

http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/01/27/shelby-supercars-unveals-aero-ev-specs/

And it’s electric. I don’t care who you are, that’s “frakking fast”.

New 2010 Mustang GT is priced under 50G and still goes 0 to120 in 18 seconds. It is getting rave review.

http://autos.aol.com/article/sports-cars/2010-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500/20090417001

Its cool to have an American car company not accepting bailout money and making kick arse cars like this.

It boils down to the fact that a centrally directed economy can only work if the central directors are always right. Once they start making mistakes, it’s all over. Of course, they always make mistakes.

A market economy, OTOH, can make mistakes every day and still run rings around the central planners, because while one arm of the market is going the wrong way, another is on the right trail.

**”it’s entirely possible and credible for the government to redirect incentives and thus to create economic activity that wasn’t there before. That’s the linchpin of the theory that a government-directed push into green energy will revitalize the economy.

To put it very crudely, Obama wants to spend government money giving you a job working on wind and solar power.

…what happens when you can’t buy [guilty pleasures] anymore because they’re too expensive, too socially-unacceptable, or both?…

The answer is that you won’t bother working any harder than needed to earn the necessities.

…And his plan will fail.”**

It’s worse than that. Every time a government takes an action to create incentives for anything, it uses resources. Those resources come from somewhere else, so the effect is to dis-incentivize that “somewhere.” So when the government pushes wind power and solar power at the expense of coal and oil development, wind and solar had better turn out to be practical, and quickly. And if it simultaneously ignores geothermal power, and that turns out to be the real successor to oil and coal, a lot of resources have been wasted in the meantime.

Tax incentives for ANY energy R&D would be a more efficient approach. The solar and wind advocates would put their research dollars there, while others would go elsewhere. The ones who developed something that actually improved on oil and coal (and gas) would be rewarded for improving our lives cost-effectively. The others who failed would be “wrong,” but would cost the public relatively little. And in the meantime, the entire economy would NOT be disrupted.

Historically, every major technological breakthrough has come about through the market process. None has come from government directive. (Some have come in spite of the authorities.) I don’t expect Green Power to be any different. Pushing research of inefficient power sources in front of development of known, established technologies is a wasteful exercise in feel-good futility.

Of course he is not an overt socialist or Marxist, but his people beleive in incremental socialism. Its a long crawl. Nationalization would be a shock to the system. That’s not what they want. They want us to slouch towards Gommorah.

Marxist is a generic term. I tripled majored in history, poltical science and legal studies at UMass and went to law school in Boston. I had scores of Marxists professors that I developed realtionships with and got inside their heads. They all beleive in different methodologies. You cannot trace all the permutations of Marxism. Generally, the traditional Marxists werre supplanted by the Gramsci inspired cultural Marxist.

in working HARDER I could work 1/2 as much as I do now and get the basics but the reason I work my BUTT off is for BIG VEHICLES!!!! You diary is dead on!

(And yes, we talk about you too, Dear Readers.)

I disagree.

“Obama doesn’t want to take over the economy or to end capitalism. He’ll be the first one to tell you that powerful things happen when ordinary people pursue the profit motive.”

Obama said it – so it must be true. I don’t think so. Obama let his game slip when he told Joe the Plumber that he wanted to spread the wealth around.

“What’s a green economy all about?”
It’s all about government having control. “Green energy” can’t compete economically with traditional ernergy sources – this gives Obama an opening to control production of both sources by claiming to want to encourage use of one and discourage use of the other. He gets to grab govermental control of traditional energy sources through taxation and regulation. He gets govermental control of “green energy” sources by subsidy. Once the government has full controll of energy they have us all at their mercy.

and solar panels doesn’t send thrills up my leg,what’s going to happen then? The plan of Obama’s fails and then where do the liberals go from there? Ummm…forced labor,careers,education,and the decrease in our lifestyles would be so dramatic we would barely remember the fraaking cars we used to drive.
Thanks for the image,I’m going to take a ride in my SUV,a long one.

Give me a 2009 Suzuki Hayabusa, about $12K out the door, and I’ll show you really fast.

Obama wants to give us a centrally planned energy policy, and he is going to spend taxpayer dollars in a failed attempt to make it happen.

He has never explained why wind and solar are”good” and why nuclear and hydo is “bad.” Of course his political motivation is to please the hippy wing of the Democratic Party, and the New Age crowd has never had much use for reasoned arguement.

What is wrong with wind and solar is :

1/ Unlike every other generating source, they cannot be switched on and off as power demand rises and falls. This makes it very hard, and maybe impossible, to provide the kind of dependable supplies of electricity which we need for our computers, televisions, refrigerators and air conditioners. A grid that was entirely dependent on wind and solar would have regular black-outs.

2/ Not everywhere has good sites for wind and solar. The US east of the Mississippi has few good sites for wind and solar. That’s a big problem for the South-East, which has high power demands.

3/ Even on good sites, wind and solar tend to be expensive. The very best solar sites, in the South-west, will cost 16c / kwh. Wind might generate for 5-10 c/kwh in places like west Texas. Coal power from a paid-off plant might cost around 2.5 c/kwh. A new nuke will probably run about 5-10 c/kwh.

Finally wind and solar produce electricity and are of no use for powering transportation. There really isn’t a good answer for replacing gasoline and diesel.

The RV will certainly be a target of the Obama administration.

They’re huge, and they get single digit mileage. Rolling carbon footprints!

like .50 BMG rifles (a couple grand and up) and .500 S&W revolvers. Oh and what “they” think are frakking big magazines (20 rounds minimum, 30 rounds or more preferred) in order to let a whole frak load of lead fly without having to stop until you want to.

Oh, and don’t forget frakking fine guitars – - some of the most exotic and beautiful woods I’ve ever seen are probably on some endangered species list somewhere. You can easily spend upwards of $5000 with no trouble – - I’ve seen some basses close to $20,000!

My apologies if I’ve used “frak” too much or incorrectly. Thanks blackhedd for bringing some focus to this whole mess.

Red Barchetta

“Fascists reject the individualism and self-interest of laissez-faire capitalism.Many fascist leaders have claimed to support a “Third Way” in economic policy, which they believed superior to both the rampant individualism of unrestrained capitalism and the severe control of state communism.This was to be achieved by a form of government control over business and labor.”
Pretty much sounds like Dear Leader ZerO’s SOP so far.

albeit with minimal job creation over the last 30 years.

When/if the economy does come back, remember that typically people overestimate short term impacts, but underestimate long term impacts.

Ive got a srt8 charger – 425 hp

sucking gas and kicking a$$

add to that some old mopars

and you’ve got a hardworking redstater..

Cars produced today right off the assembly line have better 1/4 m times and handle better than ever before. They even produce low emissions and last more than 100k miles without major rebuild…and this is with or despite the regulations and laws, Cars today are faster and better than ever before.

Some of you may remember when you had to put in a .510 lift cam, deck the heads, add Lakewood roller rocker arms, Edelbrock manifold and throw on a Holly and headers on just to get a 13.5, 1/4 m….a lot of work and money.

As far as green, check out the electric Tesla specs. 0 to 60 in less than 4sec. It may not be viable for the masses but it shows that “so called” green cars can be quick.

With that said, I’d take an old tri-power Goat over anything produced today. It won’t beat any modern performance car but you’ll have a lot more fun getting there.

That boat must be a blast. The “old” technology that you need to nurture just make it much more satisfying when you open it up. The old school folks here appreciate that. I bet you make an impressive wake.

back channel or otherwise…

Communications that will translate into effective results I mean.

Learn the meaning of the word Marblecake.

Jeff Barea

“Baking the world since 1967″

if you’re a lefty, call it your Bliss. We all have it. My bliss is new computers and big home entertainment. My hubby’s is cars. We have owned so many in the past 10 years (since I got a decent-paying job) it’s hard to keep track, including a highly customized ’86 Porsche Turbo (a killer with repair bills) and a screaming fast AMG E-Class (that was my favorite). There were a few hot SUVs in there, too. We are not rich and there are things we didn’t do (fancy landscaping, etc.) so we could buy cars.

Obama and his green comrades will kill the golden goose, which is Americans working very hard to be able to buy what defines their happiness or bliss. If I can’t have my high tech gadgets and he can’t have his cars, we will drastically scale back our efforts. Another form of Going Galt.

And I still call Obama a Marxist.