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Get Ready For a VAT

Ok, so the essence of Obama’s fiscal policy is to increase taxes and fees on business and on the top-earning 5% of the population. Everyone else gets tax cuts and vast increases in services, like national health insurance and enforced production of electric cars. And of course, the government has to keep stimulating the economy, because shlubs like you and I are so uncertain about the economic future that we’d rather save our money than spend it.

So what do you do when you’re the latest in a long line of Presidents to pledge fiscal responsibility while spending world-record amounts of money? You borrow the money you need to keep the string going. Obama’s first year in office will see a deficit of almost $2 trillion, about four times the biggest deficit that George W. Bush ever ran.

There are two problems with this, one minor and one serious. The minor problem is that Obama promised us a fiscally-responsible Presidency. He’s on record with a promise that when he leaves office, the Federal deficit will be no larger than 3% of GDP. (His first one will be 12% of GDP.) That’s not a problem because Obama can say whatever he wants and people will believe it. He will certainly claim that he fulfilled this promise, and be given credit for doing so, regardless of reality.

The serious problem is that no one knows what the impact will be of borrowing a trillion or more dollars every year for the forseeable future. Today, the public debt of the US is a bit more than 40% of GDP.  Sometime in the next five to ten years, it will hit 100%. Already there are signs that the bond markets are starting to find it a lot less attractive to lend money to the US Treasury.

The bottom line is that Obama is going to have to find a source of funding for the Federal budget that goes beyond knocking the profitability out of the private sector, and borrowing every dollar he can get his hands on. This is a matter of simple reality, even given current projected levels of Federal spending.

It gets quite a lot worse when you add in the cost of the vast range of new public initiatives that this President and his supporters promise to implement.

So at some point, you’re stuck. You can’t confiscate all business profits because that will leave you without an economy, and you can’t suck out all the private capital because the high interest rates will leave you without an economy. And higher income and payroll taxes are verboten, because you promised to cut those taxes. (And besides, it’s politically expedient to do so.)

There’s only one answer: a VAT, or value-added tax. Europe and Canada have had one for years, and it generates a gusher of revenue because it’s largely hidden from view. What happens is that every business that adds value to a good or service pays a tax on that value. The tax gets baked into prices at every step, so there’s no big ugly percentage that a consumer has to pay, as with a sales tax.

You start off with a tiny percentage, maybe less than 1 percent, and you expand it steadily as you need revenue. In Europe and the UK, it’s gotten up to the high teens now. This of course is in addition to income and payroll taxes.

My expectation was that Obama would wait till after the midterm election in November 2010, and then start sending out surrogates to float the idea of a VAT. After he himself was safely re-elected in 2012, he would come out and champion the idea himself and get it done.

It looks like we won’t have to wait that long. Already, the PR push has started. Eighteen months ahead of what I thought the schedule would be.

Let’s be responsible about this. There’s no possible way we can fund national health care, expanded spending on infrastructure and electrified motor transport, and the still-TBD overhaul of the education system. Unless we the people are prepared to go to the ballot box and say NO to increasing the scope of the federal government, then we’re going to need a VAT. It really is the only way out of the box.

And before you say it: No, that’s not what I’m advocating. I would strongly prefer to eliminate all taxes on capital and business profits, and a credible end to Obama’s personal interference in business. That approach would actually cause the economy to grow.

But I don’t think that’s very likely, do you? If we the people really do choose to embrace state capitalism and a far greater role for the government in the economy, there aren’t any other options. The question we really should be debating isn’t how to pay for bigger government, it’s how big we should let government get.

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  • http://www.realityunwound.com realityunwound

    n/t

    • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

      Used to be when people around here would throw out an accusation like that, they’d back it up with a link.

    • wrenhal

      and I can’t find any link between Pawlenty and a VAT other than he is mentioned several times on the Americans for Tax Reform website as a good guy.

  • larryp

    squish GOP…When I was in Nova Scoria in ’95, at the stores the staff apologized for the VAT. At that time there was Province and General and they were figured in separately. I think it was 4% and 7%. Sorry, sorry, said the cashier….
    Ourght to draw a pillow with the tax rates on it–smother the economy, particularly the retail economy

  • johnt

    Domestically big enough to run a dog pound, internationally, big enough to crush North Korea without a hiccup.
    I can dream can’t I ?
    Liberals have ached for a Vat for years, the beautiful thing about it to them is that you can have small increases every two years or so & before long you’re up to the 20%-24% range. So much for taxing only the rich.
    And when do retarded liberal/left voters wake up and realize they’ve been had. Then after that, when do they begin to apologize to us normal people?

    • IJB

      And when do retarded liberal/left voters wake up and realize they?ve been had. Then after that, when do they begin to apologize to us normal people?

      Lefties (they’re not liberals) will never apologize for anything – they don’t think they’re doing anything wrong. And anyone who disagrees with them is evil.

      And the vast majority of them will never change.

      The only “cure” for that is the grave.

    • Francis Cianfrocca

      My guess is that Obama will address this problem by increasing income-tax credits and abating the payroll tax for low-income people. That’s the solution they’re talking about for dealing with the regressivity of cap-and-trade.

      • johnt

        a bet on your supposition, whatever “they” are talking about at the moment. The European model is their guide, except to the extent they will go beyond it. As has been said,”we are all in this together” and by God we will all pay for it.
        I certainly do not expect equivalence in tax reductions for both cap-and-trade and a Vat. A bone perhaps, equivalence no.

  • Maggie_in_Indiana

    taxes (cap and tax) to dig in our wallets and keep us from enjoying the lifestyles we worked so hard for in our lifetime. Our kids will never know the freedom of spending the money they work to earn.

  • The_Gadfly

    The VAT still comes out of otherwise productive spending and investment and gets burned up in useless government spending. The economy still tanks, it just tanks in the stagnation of all current European governments instead of the great downward spiral of the home mortgage collapse.

    Economics is the art of allocating scare resources amongst infinite demand. It can have scientific studies about how the money circulates, gets created, and what effect various taxing schemes have, but at the end of the day it is still an art that requires good judgment. The kind of spending The Big 0 wants is not supported by good judgment, and there is no way around that truth.

  • tedpomeroy

    In recent months I proposed a retail only tax on all goods and services. (No hiding the tax further down the supply chain1)

    It is a healthcare added tax (HAT) for purpose of funding health savings for every person and/or family.

    We need to wake up and offer the HAT as a grand compromise to provide universal healthcare coverage without involvement for employers!

    If presented properly, it is a political winner!

  • tempest

    …to save Social Security…to save Medicare…to support Education (it’s for the children), to save [insert liberal cause here].

    People don’t have a right to health care!

    This is RedSate so go away….don’t waste your time here.

    • tedpomeroy

      Tempest,

      Back in 1980′s I was hoping that RR would just dump the financially broken Social Security system, but he raised the taxes and saved it.

      People love him for it. He had no philosphical problem preserving the New Deal.

      People want a healthcare system and believe me we want it so employers do not pay for it. So I say let the consumer save the money through a Health Savings Account.

      Empower people, it get people to vote right!

  • tyrusray367

    According to international trade rules, reimbursing manufacturers VAT for products exported is NOT considered an unfair trading practice.

    Every nation with a VAT practices this kind of trade subsidy while the US equivalent was ruled illegal by the WTO.

    Yes, that means everyone else in the world is subsidizing exports except us.

    Not a reason to support a VAT by any means, the arguments laid out here about creeping and unseen tax hikes are absolutely right.

    • skorrent1

      The Fair Tax removes taxes on exports, taxes imports, and is a lot more transparent than the VAT. Just sayin’.

      I still don’t love the Prebate, but it’s beginning to look a lot better than the alternatives.

  • Hera

    The VAT is being floated as a way to pay for health care. The problem is its a tax on everyone when Obama promised to only tax the rich with tax cuts for everyone else. Of course only foolish Obama supporters really believed Obama’s campaign promises.

    • tedpomeroy

      Have a healthcare VAT pay to fund health savings accounts (HSA)!

      • baserunr

        I don’t want it is the government “helping” me pay for healthcare. Every time the government tries to “help”, it costs me more money. I just don’t see how taking a pile of money from the populace, sending it to DC (where they deduct a hefty handling charge) and having the DC Washingtonians decide what serves ME and MY FAMILY best for healthcare is more efficient than me making that determination on my own. I have no right to order a doctor to treat me, and tell him how much he will be paid for the effort. The government does not have that right either. It is a negotiation between the parties. The way to reduce the cost of healthcare is to get the government out of the middle of it.

  • 6eorge Jetson

    Why, you’ll be elgible to collect starting on your 80th birthday.

    It ain’t pretty.

  • youthgrunt

    The reason that I favor tax cuts rather than allowing ANY tax increases is that eventually it will control spending. When you open the door to an invisible tax like a VAT then spending will balloon because there is a continual source of new funds that can be raised without the pain of making it look like they are increasing taxes.

    The only way that I would favor a VAT is if it is REPLACING another tax (like corporate income taxes). But that is not what is being floated, as best as I can tell. We are looking for more and bigger government.

    Francis’ question is a good one. “How big should we let the government get?” The debate is not ever held on that level. We talk about “should the government fix this thing or that thing” rather than “how influential should the government be in the private sector?”

    My guess is that conservatives would win that discussion.