Bad News: H.R. 2346, the supplemental, passed.
Good News: The entire GOP held the line.
Better News: By the time it came to a vote, there was no doubt left that the IMF will use the money to prop up Iran and European banks. That means some Blue Dog Democrats just got big old targets on their backs and now we must concentrate our political fire on them.
UPDATE: Roll Call says 5 Republicans changed their votes at the end.
Which Republicans bailed?
JustLeaveMeAlone Tuesday, June 16th at 6:52PM EDT (link)n/t
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Thomas now has the roll call vote posted
pilgrim Tuesday, June 16th at 6:57PM EDT (link)http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll348.xml
The 5 Rs who waited until the vote went above 218 to bail include Cao, the dude who took Jefferson’s seat in LA, McHugh, Kirk, King of NY, and Miller of MI.
The 32 Ds look like the anti-war crowd of Kucinich, Woolsey et al.
It is a great advantage to a president, and a major source of safety to the country, for him to know that he is not a great man.Calvin Coolidge
That Was a Very Foolish Vote from King of NY
IJB Tuesday, June 16th at 8:04PM EDT (link)That will not help his Senate campaign one bit - voting for this bill will *not* help his foreign policy credentials. In fact, it’ll do just the opposite.
Nor will this help Mark Kirk
DavidS1787 Tuesday, June 16th at 8:50PM EDT (link)Should he decide to run for office next year!
Rep. Mark Kirk (R) IL. 10
DavidS1787 Tuesday, June 16th at 8:57PM EDT (link)n/t
What was Cao thinking?!?!
JLenardDetroit Tuesday, June 16th at 8:54PM EDT (link)Can’t tell me he didn’t know that EVERYONE was looking to him to help return Conservativism to the Republican Party…. As for Candice Miller (R-MI), I’ll be perstering her office and going to a GOP meeting tomorrow and encouraging everyone to do likewise…. They must both be posturing for Moderate District votes?!?! I guess once we start getting control back we’ll have to look to PRIMARY THEM OUT!!!!
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Cao. Don't count on him to be a bastion of conservatism.
Vladimir Tuesday, June 16th at 11:27PM EDT (link)“Can’t tell me he didn’t know that EVERYONE was looking to him to help return Conservativism to the Republican Party.”
Maybe everyone at RedState, but not every one of his constituents, The guy represents one of the most Democratic districts in the country.
I think all you can really be glad for is that he ended the term of the embarrassment that was Bill Jefferson.
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What the bleep is wrong with those bleeps?
cwilson Tuesday, June 16th at 7:14PM EDT (link)Why on earth would they “hold the line” and THEN switch? Sure, now they can try to take both sides — but why would any republican WANT to? Gee…hand out cash to state sponsors of terror, while we’re going broke ourselves, or…don’t.
Seems like a pretty straightforward choice, to me.
If there’s good stuff (from Pelosi’s committee chairs? Ha!) in there, then let her bring it back up under regular order, amend the bad stuff out, and then pass what’s left. If they all would hang together (Republicans and so-called “Blue Dogs”) then they’d have the ability to actually shape legislation, rather than be the Queen Bee’s…female dogs.
But no…these five quislings are both her pets, AND they look opportunistic, weak, and foolish. But I repeat myself.
A blue dog is still a D...
briann Tuesday, June 16th at 8:11PM EDT (link)These “Blue Dogs” claim to be financially conservative/moderate, but when the vote goes down they mostly hold the party line. They should be the first against the proverbial wall in ‘10.
-Bri
It amazes me how so many still have not figured that out...
JLenardDetroit Tuesday, June 16th at 8:35PM EDT (link)A vote for ANY Democrat, even that for Animal Control or Parking Meter Enforcement, supports the Party that is the antithesis of Conservatism. They always prove to be nothing but CINOs/PLINOs and provide Power to the Democrat Party Leadership that is ALWAYS ultra-far-left like Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Kennedy, Dodd, Frank, etc..
The Democrat Party of today is NOWHERE CLOSE to the JFK namesake people want to CLING to as the Democrat ideal…. The current era of Democrats are so far to the Left of Kennedy that it is IMPOSSIBLE to even make any appropriate comparison analogies!
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+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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They all voted for it.
TxCon Wednesday, June 17th at 9:17AM EDT (link)Every bleeping one of them Even Gene Taylor and Walter Minnick. Every member who claims to be a “Blue Dog” should be target #1.
I watched a few minutes of the 'debate' on this bill this afternoon.
USNJIMRET Tuesday, June 16th at 8:27PM EDT (link)Quit when some ( D ) Representative started with the “Is this bill ‘perfect’, no, but we cannot let the good fall to the idea of perfect” justifications.
When someone has to use that kind of logical blackmail to rationalize the passage of something…..it’s just another example of the corruption that is our Congress.
Bet we'll hear that magical "Bi-Partisanship" word again now from the MSM
JLenardDetroit Tuesday, June 16th at 8:47PM EDT (link)where-as the real Bi-Partisanship has been Democrats coming across to join Republicans as we’ve covered several times….
Bi-Partisan - again, Bi-Partisanship has really been Democrats joining with Republicans (here) and here and (here again) Brian’s Dems join Rep on Ethics issues and many other times I don’t have articles links to.
… now that it fits the right MSM narrative though, we might hear the term again.
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Ds join Rs for entirely different reasons
pilgrim Tuesday, June 16th at 9:21PM EDT (link)All 32 Ds who crossed over to vote Nay with the Rs were opposed to the 80% of the supplemental that went to funding the troops. All 32 were either a member of Kucinich’s Progressive or Frank’s LGBT or Braley’s populist caucus.
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You know it, I know, but Facts will have ZERO to do with how the MSM spins it
JLenardDetroit Tuesday, June 16th at 9:42PM EDT (link)It will be all about questioning why so many Republicans after 8 years of Bush would all of a sudden want to NOT fund the War Bill! It will be all about the 5 Republicans that joined with the Democrats and nothing to do with the 32. It will be all about how those courageous 5 avoided the blatant Partisanship of the “Party of NO” … yadda, yadda, yadda…. blah, blah, blah….
FACTS will have nothing to do with it - only the above spin… And for those not paying attention to the other Diaries and maybe not up to speed on this - it was NOTHING to do with the War funding… It was ALL ABOUT forcing this one to FAIL so that a new one could be put forth w/o the IMF BS…. THIS VOTE was all about the IMF, not the Wars - in so far as our Government Spending and NOT bailing out Foreign Banks! It was/is all about non-germane policy decisions being rammed through that would otherwise NEVER be able to pass on its own merit! There are still so many Americans that still have NO CLUE how our Government currently works beyond how it was intended to work and are therefore susceptible to the MSM spin BS.
The MSM keeps playing so many Americans, including far too many people who consider themselves Conservatives (see: The “Pretend you’re a Liberal MSM reporter (and Spin the story)” Challenge), for complete fools and they keep falling for the trap everytime. +Media feeding R infighting - MSM uses snippets out of context to feed Republican in-fighting narrative additional commentary on that here (speaking out against SoSo discussion) and here
This story is easy to spin by including certain facts while omitting others.
I suspect in Candice Miller’s case she is just deciding to be TOO LAZY to go back to her District and EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCES!
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We DON'T have any money
DerKrieger Tuesday, June 16th at 8:55PM EDT (link)WTF is wrong with the D’s? We’re flat broke and have to beg money from the Chinese yet somehow the D’s think we can continue to fund the entire world. This is totally insane.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (OBAMACARE – mine), the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
The Demhats are a bunch of Wimp<font color="Thistle>y</font>s
6eorge Jetson Wednesday, June 17th at 8:07AM EDT (link)