I am told reliably, but have not yet confirmed, that Governor George Pataki endorsed Doug Hoffman tonight at a Conservative Party event.
As Matt Drudge would say: Developing . . .
If this is so, this is huge. Pataki routinely won NY-23 by huge margins. He remains quite popular up there.
UPDATE: IT IS CONFIRMED. Gov. George Pataki has endorsed Doug Hoffman for the United States Congress.
Pataki’s statement:
Statement from Governor George E. Pataki
As someone personally engaged in the way of life in the Adirondacks and Northern New York, I’m deeply concerned about the course of our nation and the outcome of the election in the 23rd Congressional District.
Simply put, we cannot afford to give another vote to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid we cannot afford another vote for higher taxes, we cannot afford another vote for government run health care and we absolutely cannot afford another vote to take away from hard working men and women the right to secret ballot.
That is why tonight, I’m proud to endorse Doug Hoffman, a Republican, running on the Conservative line for Congress in the 23rd Congressional District.
Doug Hoffman will stand up to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. He will fight for all the residents of northern New York. He will fight for our proud servicemen and women at Fort Drum, our dairy farmers in Lowville and our manufacturers in Plattsburgh.
As a businessman, and as a life-long resident of the North Country Doug Hoffman understands the need to lower taxes on working families, the need to stand tall against terror and he won’t back phony stimulus programs that fail to create the jobs we need and leaves a mountain of debt to our children.
When elected to Congress Doug will work to reduce our taxes, he will stand tall against those who despise our freedoms and he will be a vigilant stalwart against those who would substitute government programs for individual initiative.
And Doug Hoffman can win.
I urge all the voters of the 23rd Congressional District – Republican Democrat, Independent and Conservative to come out and vote for Doug Hoffman for Congress.
Also Pete Sessions is welcoming...
Dana Watts Thursday, October 29th at 9:04PM EDT (link)Hoffman with open arms if he wins…a bit too late
I would disagree on 'too late.'
Moe Lane Thursday, October 29th at 9:12PM EDT (link)I want the win. ‘Win’ is defined as ‘they get the bloody point;’ if the leadership learns the right lessons from this, that’ll do.
Check out my new blog at http://moelane.com/.
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Agree
Neil Stevens Thursday, October 29th at 9:13PM EDT (link)I haven’t gotten the feeling from the NRCC that they’re anti-conservative, the way the NRSC seems to be a tool for handing out post-2008 recriminations.
I want them to get their minds right and work with them well and successfully.
Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
So do you two think that they are this easily trainable?
janis Thursday, October 29th at 9:21PM EDT (link)Or do we have to carrot and stick them every single time. Fighting with the other side is pretty strenuous as it is, I’d rather not have to headbutt my own purported side, too.
You don't have to headbutt
Neil Stevens Thursday, October 29th at 9:32PM EDT (link)But you have to be alert.
Until enough of us are *in* the party apparatus, this is the price we pay for being slack until now.
Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
Well put...
MacAoidh Thursday, October 29th at 10:05PM EDT (link)…we conservatives are too ready to pick up our toys and go home, while the apparatchiks never go anywhere. We allow them to wait us out, and as a result we constantly have to fight these battles.
It’s a crappy reality, but it’s the only one we’ve got. We have to outlast the apparatchiks this time.
How many times did you grab a hot stove...
Moe Lane Thursday, October 29th at 9:32PM EDT (link)…before you worked it out that you shouldn’t?
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Then we need to make our stove cherry-red with heat.
janis Thursday, October 29th at 9:41PM EDT (link)Because these people need some serious scorch marks to get the idea that we won’t tolerate this. I’d be quite happy to hear something from someone on the inside of the NRCC bunker to the effect that they won’t be so blithe about ignoring us the next time.
What I’d really like to hear is that they reflexively wet their pants when they hear the phrase, “Say, did you see that article on RedState by Erick Erickson today?”
Not just that...
MacAoidh Thursday, October 29th at 10:06PM EDT (link)…we have to KEEP that stove hot. Our problem is we let it get cold too damn often.
The NRCC didn't pick Dede, the local party apparatus did.
The_Gadfly Friday, October 30th at 8:41AM EDT (link)Yeah, I’d be happier if the NRCC, Newt and the rest of the professional pols were focused only on attacking the Dem, but the bottom line for the NRCC is that their chartered responsibility is to push the Republican party. I’d bet that in off the record, no attributable statements that wouldn’t even appear in a blog as ‘in off the record conversations’, most of the folks at the NRCC would spit nails like a chain gun about the poor candidate they’ve been saddled with supporting. And I would fully support a re-examination of how they support Republican candidates so they didn’t have to do this in the future.
Now I fully support stringing up Newt and the rest of the professional pols who are supporting Dede on the metaphorical tree, just as long as we all remember there are laws against stringing them up on physical trees.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
You haven't been paying attention.
NightTwister Friday, October 30th at 8:46AM EDT (link)The NRCC was involved (behind the scenes) in the selection of DeDe.
Get Connected in Colorado.
Actually
redtillimdead Friday, October 30th at 3:07PM EDT (link)The NRCC wanted another candidate to be chosen, businessman Matt Doheny, because he quickly raised $300k before being selected, and donated $500k of his own money, so they could save money, but the party didn’t care.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
So?
NightTwister Friday, October 30th at 3:49PM EDT (link)That doesn’t negate what I said. Go shill for the NRCC somewhere else.
Get Connected in Colorado.
Actually, it does.
The_Gadfly Monday, November 2nd at 9:34AM EST (link)It clearly states the NRCC didn’t pick the extreme leftist. Mostly the NRCC has actually done a good job of advancing a fairly large number of conservative candidates. This is the work of a few people who are unfortunately highly placed within the organization. Which is why Erick is advocating so strongly that those people and only those people be held accountable. Back in the Clinton years I didn’t like it when Newt walked the plank for what was clearly Trent Lott’s failure to hold the Senate. At the time Newt* was walking as well as talking conservative. It’s important not to blast everybody in the organization because of the failures of a few. That’s how we destroy the party.
*I wouldn’t vote for Newt now because of the mess he has made of his personal life since then, as well as liberal positions he has taken. But on the weight of the evidence at the time, it was Trent who should have walked.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
Okay, I'll take all of that back.
The_Gadfly Friday, October 30th at 8:53AM EDT (link)Just read the link below about one person in the NRCC setting up Dede to be the winner of the local race. If true, he needs to be bounced out so hard he never lands another political job with any Republican anywhere in the country, not even somebody running for dog catcher.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
5! nt
Vegas_Rick Thursday, October 29th at 9:35PM EDT (link)“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Newt's Story Changes:
UpLateAgain Thursday, October 29th at 9:26PM EDT (link)Newt acknowledged that the information he related on the nomination process that resulted in Scozzafava’s nomination was in error:
http://www.tcotreport.com/wholiedtonewt.html
In a blog posting by Dan Riehl (Update: Exclusive: How The NRCC Bungled NY - 23), a plausible sounding explanation of how Scozzafava got the nomination is delineated:
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2009/10/how-the-nrcc-bungled-ny-23.html
When I read things like this, I become ever more convinced that principle has to take precedence over party.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
At least he's admitting he was wrong...
MacAoidh Thursday, October 29th at 10:08PM EDT (link)…I’ll take that admission at face value, and I suggest the rest of us do as well. We’re going to need Newt’s talents in the coming months.
I agree.
UpLateAgain Thursday, October 29th at 10:59PM EDT (link)My intent was not to slam Newt, but to show how dangerous blindly adhering to party politics can be in this day and age. I’m like a former smoker that now disdains smoking in others. I’ve spent my adult life voting the party line even when I had to hold my nose while doing so.
My logic was that if you vote for a Democrat, no matter how decent he/she might seem to be, sooner or later they would have to tow the party line and it could be very costly.
I think that dynamic was valid for most of my adult life. I also think the paradigm is changing… thanks to Mr. Obama.
Now, conservatism comes first, and party loyalty has to be earned.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
I'm going to vote the party line almost exclusively...
MacAoidh Thursday, October 29th at 11:05PM EDT (link)…if for no other reason than to vote against the Democrat.
But when a guy like Hoffman comes along who is clearly a better choice for the true conservative, and has the added benefit of a legitimate chance to win, we should grab at that brass ring.
Purifying the Republican Party is not about kicking the moderates out. It’s about keeping them from controlling the party.
The other Repubs are a little late
livingfortruth Thursday, October 29th at 9:40PM EDT (link)After Palin endorsed him, he climed from behind the pack to in front. THEN Palenty jumped on the endorsement bandwagon to glom onto HER starpower!
http://livingfortruth.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/questions-need-to-be-answered-in-health-care-debate/
I love my God, my wife and family, my country, and conservatism and FREEDOM.
Well, the takeaway there is that Pawlenty
janis Thursday, October 29th at 9:45PM EDT (link)recognizes her star power. And so do lots of others who’d rather just ignore it as some aberration of the rednecks in the party. They will find out one way or the other that “We, the People” means exactly that. Not “We the Politicians.”
Pataki jumping in would pretty much be the election, no?
MacAoidh Thursday, October 29th at 10:10PM EDT (link)The debut of Pelosicare ought to be just as huge for Hoffman next week.
Hoffman winning this in an ass-beating could be colossal.
The Kos poll sounds to me as if the D's are conceding the Trend
Section9 Thursday, October 29th at 10:20PM EDT (link)Hoffman has the Big Mojo.
I noticed that Obama is staying away from the District. That sounds to me like the D’s want their money guy out of the race. Were I the Dems, I would put Barack in NJ, big time.
Were I Palin, I would go in to the District to give Doug one last big push. And to count coup. A nice big rally before election day. I’m not sure there’s enough time, but Sarah is into surprises.
“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill
Giuliani should make an appearance on Hoffman's behalf...
MacAoidh Thursday, October 29th at 11:07PM EDT (link)…for both their sakes. Has he a take on this race to date?
Unfortunately, no
aesthete Friday, October 30th at 2:26PM EDT (link)There’s some bad blood between Guiliani and the Conservative party. The NY Conservative Party typically nominates a candidate that fits their aims rather than running their own; their candidate for the special election in NY-23 was a function of there not being a conservative in the race. Essentially, they split with Rudy on abortion, and ran candidates against him. The Liberal Party (the progressive counterpart to the conservative party) in turn nominated Guiliani as their choice for mayor of NYC, mostly because of the Conservative Party’s opposition (though as a result of Guiliani’s record and support of the War on Terror, they’ve pretty much disowned him). Hopefully, Guiliani will be the better man and go ahead and endorse Hoffman: after all, Hoffman’s not simply defined by the Conservative party, and is demonstrably the better candidate.
Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand
“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC
So we've got McDonnell up by double digits in VA,
The_Gadfly Friday, October 30th at 8:57AM EDT (link)and Hoffman pulling strongly into the lead in NY 23, which last week Fox reported the Dems were looking to as the tie breaker for the governors races.
…
Anybody else think Sarah should endorse Cristie in NJ and go for trifecta?
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
NO!!!!
redtillimdead Friday, October 30th at 3:09PM EDT (link)Corzine would have Sarah in every ad, and that would kill him in NJ. She kinda endorsed him, but did not make it super public, and I’ve only seen like 1 or 2 articles on it.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
I think so..
treeofliberty Friday, October 30th at 6:05AM EDT (link)I was cautiously optimistic about the race before , but now with the Pataki endorsement and all the momentum and national attention on this race I’d be very surprised if he lost.
Go Hoffman - Go NY-23
Jesse V Thursday, October 29th at 10:27PM EDT (link)Its up to the good people of NY-23 now. They have the momentum, they have America’s support! Its their time to shine and its up to them. to be the beacon on which we all show a united front.
Its the last stand before the big battle. This is the shot heard around the World! Come’on NY-23 makes us all proud. Lets start beating back the socialist scourge that has infiltrated our great land!
Let us stand proudly beside you as you claim the first victory in the battle to take back our America!!!!!!!! Let us stand triumphantly with you as you proudly proclaim that “We the People” still rule this land!
Let us stand hand in hand with you, as you, NY-23, make it known to the socialist/looters in Washington that they no longer rule us but that “We the People” are the sovereign rulers of America!
We’re behind you! Show the rest of the Country what we are all made of and what we all believe is best and right for America!
Jesse V, remember that story of the "Little Engine That Could?"
penguin2 Thursday, October 29th at 11:11PM EDT (link)“I think I can. I think I can.” Classic children’s story of motivation and optimism. Most well known version today was by Watty Piper, (a pseudonym for publisher Platt & Munk) and there have been various other versions. The NY-23 race reminds me of this.
NY-23 is the David and Goliath story. Go NY-23.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Penguin2, it really does!
Cheryl Thursday, October 29th at 11:17PM EDT (link)Hope you and Mr. P2 are doing well.
I’ve been volunteering at the CA10 Harmer race and we’re hoping for a good turnout for the R’s and I’s. You never know.
Cheryl, classic childrens stories have so many lovely...
penguin2 Thursday, October 29th at 11:34PM EDT (link)wonderful lessons for life for children and adults. I have an opportunity where I work with kids books quite a bit, somy bibliophile heart gets joy twice over.
Mr. P2 is well. Amazed at the accomplishments of RedState, but delighted too. Glad you have been able to help in Harmer’s race. How do you think that is going to go?
And I want to add a belated h/t to Janis who told me the “Little Engine That Could” is her grandson’s favorite story.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Holy #%@^
redtillimdead Thursday, October 29th at 10:31PM EDT (link)Thats HUGE!! Great news! Pataki, plus the NRCC saying they welcome him and acknowledging he may be the best candidate, along with their advertising switching back to focus on Owens= Hoffman is the front runner!
BTW, wasn’t Al D’Amato supposed to say who he was supporting last night, and wasn’t it supposed to be Hoffman? Anyone know what happened to that?
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
This is awesome and statement is clear and direct,
Cheryl Thursday, October 29th at 10:44PM EDT (link)we could sure use someone of of his stature to do the same for Harmer here in CA10.
Ahnold?
redtillimdead Thursday, October 29th at 10:46PM EDT (link)LOL
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
eck
Cheryl Thursday, October 29th at 10:59PM EDT (link)LOL
Got caught up in the excitment and went and donated to Hoffman ...
rcov092 Thursday, October 29th at 10:47PM EDT (link)so he can buy radio time to make sure everyone in the 23rd will know oh and also those dufus staffers responsible at the NRCC for this MASSIVE DEBACLE for them.
“Not One Red Dime for the NRSC or NRCC till they stop trying to elect liberals”
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I too am donating to Hoffman
UpLateAgain Thursday, October 29th at 11:52PM EDT (link)This could easily be THE single most effective dollar spent on a political candidate in the next two years.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
Uhh, I hate to say this,
zbigreddogz Friday, October 30th at 1:16AM EDT (link)But I don’t think they’ll have much time to buy anything this late into the game.
Of course, he’s said he’s committed to running in ‘10 anyway. So maybe it’ll work out.
“At the top there are no easy choices. All are between evils, the consequences of which are hard to judge.” - Dean Acheson
I was impressed with the statement
hickorystick Friday, October 30th at 12:29AM EDT (link)included with his endorsement. Just needs some signature lines underneath for prospective candidates to sign, to know there coming from. the right place
I Hope Pataki Runs For The Senate
DavidSage Friday, October 30th at 12:54AM EDT (link)I know he’s not an ideal conservative, but he and Giuliani are really the only two Republicans that can win statewide in New York.
This endorsement is huge and could easily be the deciding factor in this election.
Latest Hoffman poll
Sunnie57 Friday, October 30th at 1:08AM EDT (link)From my email from the Hoffman camp:
“New Poll:
Minuteman PAC poll is the latest to show our surge:
Neighborhood Research N=366 10/25-26 Hoffman 34.1%Owens 29.2%Scozzafava 13.9%Undecided 22.8% Definite Voters:Hoffman 37.5%Owens 28.4%
Scozzafava 13.5%Undecided 20.6%
Help from Afar:
If you cannot get out in the district and to participate in the campaign, but still want to make calls from home, please send an email to Paul at saratoga1777@live.com ”
It’s all about getting out the vote!
I'm stunned.
zbigreddogz Friday, October 30th at 1:14AM EDT (link)Glad, but stunned. It’s very, very risky. If Hoffman wins, nobody will hold it against him, but it clearly angers certain local party people that Pataki will need if he runs for Senate.
I wonder if this means he’s not running. Or that he is and he wants to mend fences with the right. I honestly don’t know.
Anyhow, it’s brave as hell.
Hope this wins it for Hoffman.
I do think this’ll “cover over a multitude of sins” as it were if Pataki decides to run for Senate..
“At the top there are no easy choices. All are between evils, the consequences of which are hard to judge.” - Dean Acheson
The Administration and the DNC
jen2001 Friday, October 30th at 7:36AM EDT (link)Recognize her star power…the Facebook attack scheme and the new TV ads against her, just a US citizen, show how much they fear her star power. The MSM continues to demean her every chance they get, aka the CBS interview with Levi.
She is the only one, beside Fox, Rush, the Chamber, AP that they can aim their propaganda gun at. I haven’t seen them take a shot at Pawlenty yet.
This was supposed to be a response to Janis above.
jen2001 Friday, October 30th at 7:37AM EDT (link)NT
A Republican?
livingfortruth Friday, October 30th at 7:49AM EDT (link)On Glen Beck last Saturday, Glen stated, “So sort of the “The Republican party left you, you did not leave it” (They left 20 years ago or more for me, you have heard the term (”democrat lite”.) To which Hoffman replied, “Yeah.”
I find it interesting the Rush has for almost since he started on the national broadcast winced at the idea of a third party, the fix it attitude, yet Reagan, whom Rush loves, LEFT WHEN IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE DEMS WERE NOT GOING TO CHANGE. We have reached that point. IF Rush and Hannity were to endorse the Constitution party, they could be party makers. How long do you nurse a dead head?
The Republican Party tried to throw Hoffman under the bus. He has a love a FREEDOM like William Wallace and would not stay in the way of the bus, crawled out of the way, and now good people are helping in his campaign to help his people, the people of the 23rd New York.
To see where our nation is headed, even though good people like Hoffman (a man of faith) are trying to slow it down, tead:
http://livingfortruth.wordpress.com/
I love my God, my wife and family, my country, and conservatism and FREEDOM.
You should spend some more time lurking if you intend to stay here.
The_Gadfly Friday, October 30th at 9:04AM EDT (link)This site is not about starting third parties, it is about reclaiming the Republican party.
This is intended as a friendly warning.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
inspired by ColdWarrior, http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/04/ny-23-the-agony-of-defeat-not-so-much/#comment-156
This is a special election and Hoffman
Steph C Friday, October 30th at 9:16AM EDT (link)said that if he wins this election he’ll be running as a Republican in 2010. Get off the third party meme. This is not a trend to follow. The time for a third party is not now and may never be because it looks like we’re winning the debate against the squishes.
Besides, where would we go? Third parties are a dime a dozen and none of them have much organization to them. They look good on the surface… sometimes… but that’s all it is: a veneer covering the total lack of coherence.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
Bet Newt has a headache
joers Friday, October 30th at 7:57AM EDT (link)Hope the folks that contributed to the debacle keep in mind that it is indeed, we the people, not we the politicians. I f the Republican Party doesn’t start reading the mood of the country, they are going to be in for some huge losses.
He has a head ache......... You should see some of the comments on
DavidS1787 Friday, October 30th at 9:18PM EDT (link)his blog…..
Newt.org
Name change not third party
Castor Friday, October 30th at 10:33AM EDT (link)Let´s just elect enough delegates to the 2012 convention and change the name of the Republican Party to the Conservative Party!
I can't think of a single benefit of that
Neil Stevens Friday, October 30th at 10:40AM EDT (link)Even if it were possible, which it isn’t, because the Republican Party has a federal structure.
Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
At least Pataki endorsed Hoffmann
redpens Friday, October 30th at 1:27PM EDT (link)Where oh where are Romney, Huckabee, McCain, and Graham? Yep,
I hear crickets.
Graham???
sccrenny Friday, October 30th at 5:12PM EDT (link)He runs screaming from anyone who shows signs of actually having “a pair”. In fact, I would start supecting Hoffman if “Goober” started singing his praises.
When I look at Barack Obama I don’t see black. I don’t see white. I do, however see RED! It’s the same color I see when I look at Pelosi, Reid, ACORN, SEIU…
Will Pataki Agree to Campaign for Hoffman?
DavidS1787 Friday, October 30th at 8:34PM EDT (link)n/t
Where are the others...........
DavidS1787 Friday, October 30th at 8:56PM EDT (link)that endorsed Hoffman? Why aren’t they Campaigning for him?
An endorsement is one thing. Showing your support for Hoffman by campaigning for him ……….Priceless….