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Where was Sam Brownback?
By FirstState Posted in Immigration — Comments (47) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »
Today, the Senate voted on an amendment to eliminate sanctuary cities for illegal immigrants.
The amendment failed by one vote.
Sam Brownback did not vote.
Does anyone know why?
(Before anyone jumps down his throat or mine, I'm sure there's a reason.)
Thomas would have sat out the vote because of Johnson
by David Hinz
this STUPID longstanding tradition of a member of one side sitting out any vote that the incapacitated Senator would have voted on -- my take is it would be incumbent on the other side to get their senator re-capacitated!
Continuing the tradition
by WOSG
of the Democrats being the Evil Party and the GOP being the Stupid Party.
Johnson needs to be replaced as Senator, he is medically unfit to serve. But Dems are loathe to lose their majority, and the GOP is too polite to tell the Dems they are wrong.
The MUCH bigger problem was
by mbecker908
Graham (R-SC)
Hagel (R-NE)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
These guys and gal voted against the amendment. I have no further non-bannable comments on them.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
Are you giving Domenici a pass?
by pilgrim
Domenici voted No also.
You’re a persistent cuss, pilgrim.
John Wayne to Jimmy Stewart in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
*&/6%!!**7^!&
Amnestia Pete
by No King but God
*&/6%!!**7^!&
Amnestia Pete is really getting on my nerves
They that are with us are more than they that are against us.
The bigger problem:
by spainishirish
lack of rope.
In all seriousness, we need to hear a few necks snap.
Wrong !
by SteveLA
mbecker
I think you are quite wrong on this point. While I disagree with those of ether party that vote against what I believe is the right answer on this issue, it is not an act of courage to not vote at all. Every Democratic and Republican candidate for President, save Brownback found the time to do their job and cast a vote. Senator Brownback, a guy that wants to be President of the United States, was AWOL from doing his duty in the Senate and voting one way or the other on this legislation on the record.
I'm not a big fan of Senator Brownback and I make no pretense of parting company with him, but this lack of even bothering to show up and stand one way or the other is just plain inexcusable and I would not vote for him for the office of dog catcher if I had the chance.
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I'm no particular fan of Brownback, but until someone
by mbecker908
can tell us why he missed the vote, I'm ambivilant about him. OTOH, the magical group who voted "no" earn my undying wrath. If Sam doesn't have a "good" excuse, so will he.
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
Here
by SteveLA
I'll keep the cross posting down, but here's where Senator Brownback was, instead of doing the work of a Senator...I call that being AWOL when McCain, Clinton and Obama seemed to find time to vote.
http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/the_mcgovernites#comment-...
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Graham is starting to irk
by Herodotus
Graham is starting to irk me. He apparently really deserved this last weekend.
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Whomever you want to fault for it,
by jonlester
every member of Congress currently running for president makes me wish I had a job I didn't have to show up for, especially if I could excuse myself for touring around the country by calling it a campaign.
Defeat Them-The only remedy
by stanpulle
Republican primary challenges to this "Gang of 8" that allowed sanctuary cities to persist must begin NOW!
In addition to missing the vote you described, Sen. Brownback also missed another 49-48 vote. This vote was on an amendment by Sen. Dorgan and its purpose was to sunset the Y-1 nonimmigrant visa program after a 5-year period. Here is a link to the vote: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm... .
Why is Sen. Brownback missing important 49-48 votes on immigration legislation?
"The defense of our nation begins with the defense of our borders." - Rep. Tom Tancredo
Well
by fast200
It could be Brownback hasn't made up his mind yet on how he stands on this issue.
Or it could be
by Socrates
that he has made up his mind, and knows the people have, also.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
You reckon?
by spainishirish
I thought it involved the general good and all.
Amen
by Frank Katz
You nailed it. Once again Senator Brownback has let down the conservative movement when it comes to illegal immigration.
Frank Katz
Among Republican senators, Lindsay Graham is turning into a southern fried version of Lincoln Chafee/Jim Jeffords.
This is absurd
by ElCapitan
The conservative Graham has close to a 90% rating while the liberal Chaffee's rating was around 38%...
Spitballs?!?! / Yo No Soy Marinero, Soy Capitan
An ACU rating and $5
by zuiko
Might by you a latte at Starbucks. ACU ratings are about the most worthless thing ever developed IMO.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
This is simplistic.
by spainishirish
Where was W?
And where were we?
The cancer got us all, didn't it?
Get out the modern equivalent of a rope. It doesn't have fiber, from what I understand.
Who cares?
by Neil Stevens
Is Sen. Brownback unconservative or unprincipled for not voting on a particular amendment to a Democratic bill, whose purpose is to place federal mandates on local government?
And is he wrong for not voting with Claire McCaskill and Robert C. Byrd, or is he wrong for not voting with Ted Kennedy and Debbie Stabenow?
Run like Reagan!
Actually
by Socrates
the amendment was completely unnecessary, since States and munies don't have the right to override Federal laws anyway.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
Right.
by spainishirish
As someone pointed out elsewhere, this shows that the legislation essentially would turn all of America into a sanctuary city, i.e., an immigration Dodge City nation. This amendment's purpose may have been to highlight that bad result, but it substantively would have done nothing.
Override?
by Neil Stevens
Refusing to enforce federal law isn't the same as overriding federal law. Refusing to cooperate actively with federal agents isn't the same as overriding federal law.
Likewise, you won't see the FBI enforcing traffic violations, but that doesn't mean the FBI is overriding state sovereignty.
Sanctuary cities are a symptom not the problem. Insufficient federal enforcement at the border and on the interior is the problem. Passing the buck to the states doesn't fix that.
Run like Reagan!
I think we're in agreement
by Socrates
I suppose there's a legal difference between 'not cooperating' and 'nullifying'.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
Nullification
by Neil Stevens
I don't suppose there's any chance that we can link in the press the Sanctuary City movement with Nullification, and therefore State's Rights, and therefore get lefties calling the pro-illegal-immigration crowd racists, is there?
Run like Reagan!
Right.
by Socrates
This is the first time I can remember lefties calling for the States to exercise free will over the Fedra gummint.
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Gone 2500 years, still not PC.
when he voted for the horrible CIRA bill.
He would be little help now, unless he found religion on the road to Des Moines.
Sen. Brownback also missed the vote (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm...)
on Sen. Vitter's amendment (S.Amdt.1157) to strike the amnesty provisions from the immigration bill.
Why is Sam Brownback missing critical votes on the immigration bill?
"The defense of our nation begins with the defense of our borders." - Rep. Tom Tancredo
Somebody IM Leon
by pangloss
His guy is taking a beating here..
“Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15.”
-Ronald Reagan
I'm not entirely sure
by Leon H Wolf
Why I need to be bombarded with IMs while I'm at work in order to come here and provide information that is readily accessible on Google, Yahoo, or indeed the Senator's website. I get the feeling it might have something to do with the fact that many of the folks "asking" this question already know the answer.
I assume, upon a brief perusal of the comments of this thread, that none of you will be taking your vacation, sick, or personal days from work this year, even if you have worked at your place of employment for over a decade.
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[F]or by the fundamental law of Nature, man being to be preserved as much as possible, when all cannot be preserved, the safety of the innocent is to be preferred...
-John Locke
Well
by zuiko
I assume, upon a brief perusal of the comments of this thread, that none of you will be taking your vacation, sick, or personal days from work this year, even if you have worked at your place of employment for over a decade.
If time off is really a huge priority to him, maybe Senator isn't the right job for him. And if that is the case, President of the United States certainly isn't the right job.
I think it is much more likely he didn't want to be seen voting the "wrong" way on the measures, so it is easier to just miss the votes entirely and leave the voters guessing. Voting does have that nasty side effect of putting you on the record.
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Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman
Assumption wrong!
by SteveLA
leon
"I assume,..., even if you have worked at your place of employment for over a decade."
Nope, not when my employer has important business going on, not if I want to keep my job.
In the case of Senator Brownback the citizens of the State of Kansas and of this country have fairly important business going on. But I guess running for President is more important than voting for funding for American troops in the field or dealing with immigration legislation.
'Snark On'
I know, the US Military can implement the Brownback rule; If you really really need to be doing something else, and you got over a decade of service, you can decide to take the day or two or three off to do something you think is more important when we need you to do your darn job.
'Snark OFF'
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Brownback's missed votes
by raider
SteveLA, Brownback was an original cosponsor of the Kennedy-McCain amnesty legislation. He strongly supported rewarding millions of illegal aliens with legal status and a path to citizenship.
He missed two (2) 49-48 votes on immigration legislation. Additionally, he missed a vote on Sen. Vitter's amendment to remove the amnesty provisions of the immigration bill. The five other Senate candidates for president all voted on that amendment.
"The defense of our nation begins with the defense of our borders." - Rep. Tom Tancredo
I get my organization's
by Herodotus
I get my organization's perfect attendance award every year. I even have the label pins to prove it.
P.S. I do not have a problem with the Senator, I just need to brag.
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
I was refering to Senator
by Herodotus
I was refering to Senator Brownback, I am still irked by Graham
...a long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right...
---Thomas Paine---
Keep Spinning
by Frank Katz
No matter how you try to spin it, the Senator's absence on these key votes tells us everything we need to know. Apparently 97 other Senators were able to balance the demands of their personal lives with those of this nation.
Frank Katz
Funny
by Neil Stevens
My guess is the Brownback nitpickers would criticize him for voting for final passage, even if all these amendments passed.
Run like Reagan!
Myself, I'm still on the fence with Brownback
by pangloss
I just thought Leon would like a heads up.
“Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15.”
-Ronald Reagan
Picking of Nits
by SteveLA
Neil
Maybe voting on funding for troops in harms way is a "Nit" to you, but it's not to me. Or for that matter Loony Lefties like HillDog and Osamabama who did manage to vote the wrong way, but voting in the Senate must be too much of a "Nit" (to use your parlance) for the Senator from Kansas running his Don Quixote campaign for President to be bothered.
Brownback owes an apology at the very least to the troops who's welfare he seems to place lower than his own political future.
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Whatever
by Neil Stevens
Your namecalling shows to me that you really aren't here to have a serious discussion. I don't envy Leon his job.
Run like Reagan!
Brownback supports Bush's amnesty bill
by Jack Ryan
No need to give him a second look, he's done.
His vote didn't matter
by SIConservative
If he supplied the extra vote in favor of the amendments, Cheney would've voted against them to keep the compromise in tact. Whether Brownback showed would not have impacted the vote either way.
Brownback will never get my vote
by SanDiego92108
I am conservative, and Brownback will never get my vote. He sold us out on amnesty too many times.
By the way, Los Angeles has joined the Third World. Thanks to (too many to mention) for allowing this mass importation of poverty.
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