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By GordonTaylor Posted in Comments (148) / Email this page » / Leave a comment »

My colleague and friend Dave Hinz has decided to take his leave until at least after the election. He will look in from time to time, of that I am sure.

While I disagree with my very good friend on his LOA, I support him fully and await his return.

To quote a little of what he has said...

I will no longer be posting at RedState until after the election. It has become clear to me that the atmosphere has changed over the past few weeks, and I will no longer be welcome.

I still consider the bulk of the RedState community as friends, and will probably look in from time to time to see what is being said. But I will not continue to post.

The “My way or the highway,” “Like it or lump it,” “Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out” attitude, of a handful of posters, stifles any attempt at dialog. Monologues are never as interesting as dialogs.

When manufactured outrage takes the place of discussion, it is time to move on. I am moving on!

I have always found Dave's writing to be informative, insightful and damn well written, he is a trained journalist after all.

We'll miss ya Dave, and eagerly await your triumphant return.

visit there :-)

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The dog was always the funny one of the pair ;-)

Going to miss him. He will still be posting at the Hinzsight report I hope ?


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

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David Hinz has 'Thumos' by speciallist

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"40 million American households with David Hinz are generally happier
than those people in households that don't have David Hinz."

Greek to me n/t by Joliphant


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Dave does have passion, and I totally agree with your signature.

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55555 - nt by gamecock

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So I think its a little silly for him to complain, but whatever.

and kind to me.
Gaw-this place is getting polluted.
Now we allow posters to call people(long-time posters with cred) out instead of e-mailing or using the contact form. We allow people to post diaries simply for the joy of taunting others.
What is next? This place will soon be a cesspool just like KOS if this doesn't stop.
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You are my favorite today. :>)
Tell Dave I'll see him over at HinzSight and TMR.
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of the party. I wouldn't have called him out if he didn't just post a veiled "woe is me" whiny attack on people who are calling for party unity. If you're going to complain about the level of discourse on the site, you should promote a high level of discourse yourself. David Hinz has insulted my reading ability, accused me of being another poster who got banned, and accused me of having OCD - is that what you call civil?

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You're engaging in moral equivalence similar to the Israel/Palestine thing in a tiny scale.

He's right that people from disfavored wings of the party(or should I say, that are seen as being part of disfavored wings of the party and/or movement) are frequently called out for retaliating after they've been attacked, and not in reverse.

But that's all I'll say. I'm not going to get in to another catfight and I have nothing against Heinz personally.

"I ain't never votin' fo another Democrat so long as I can draw breath! I'll vote for a dog first!" - Leola Thomas

I'm sure.

My wing? Dude, I called for party unity long ago, right here-
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/c17wife/2008/feb/08/its_time_to_hush_up_an...

Note the date, Feb 8th. A mere three days after Super Tuesday.

At any rate, Dave has been here a long time and does great work. I'm sorry to see him go and the site will not be better for it.

Just a typical, small town, white girl...

5 5 5 by Joliphant

Almost all the common sense Republicans decided to close ranks raise shields and thrust swords for the win.


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Its not worth going into the details, if he would have just left with out a big sob story about everybody was mean to him I wouldn't have even said anything.

and if you don't grow one then, you are sol for life and all the rest of us suffer fot it.

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Which wing is that ? by Joliphant

And just how many wings does the Republican bird have ?


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

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"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." -Fred Dalton Thompson

Just one. by itrytobenice

The right wing. :)

I meant what I said and I said what I meant. An elephant's faithful 100 percent.

A request Gordon by Hooah Mac

Could you have Dave contact me?

Mac... by GordonTaylor

I just hit your contact form with his email address.

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Things have been bitter around these parts lately, there's been a lot of infighting. Like it or not, people in this party should be cutting each other a little more slack right now: we're nominating a guy who practically nobody except the Weekly Standard ever wanted to be President. He's not my choice, he's not Dave's choice and I'm sure there are a lot of people who will say he's not their choice either.

But he's the only choice we've got, folks.

Everybody is freaking angry the past few days, and Dave I think has been upset by McCain for a long time. I don't know what else to say except that given the current poll numbers in this country, there's nothing else to do, and all of us are going to have to try our best.

We've been dealt a relatively weak hand in this election cycle. What else is there to say? Sorry to see you go from RedState, Dave, but I understand: there's not much to be enthusiastic about right now as a Conservative. We're in for another several clicks of Robert Hahn's Ratchet Mechanism, I think. 70's redux and all that. Get the wide polyester ties out of those boxes, baby, and get ready to be enthusiastic again about overpriced, underperforming cars, plus a lot of other things.

it won't be pretty ;-)

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Bell Bottoms and Platform Shoes are dope, yo.

I'm hoping for a return of embroidered denim shirts. That would be the bomb diggity.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

be careful bird by simpson316

MrSyHastings might retread (again) to call you a pot head.



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"After two years in Washington, I often long for the realism and sincerity of Hollywood." -Fred Dalton Thompson

stuffed with your stash under the big bell bottoms...far out and solid, maaan.

To when every woman wore a skirt so short her cheeks hung out of it?

...oh, wait. NM. There'd have to be age and weight requirements to that kind of dresscode...

"Always be honest with yourself. Even if you are honest with no one else."
--me

Back in time? by simpson316

We have that now.

[And I second the weight requirements, but not necessarily the age thing. I've seen women in their 60s that outshine many of the teens out there today.]



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My Dad still can't believe this party is nominating John McCain to be the President. I mean, he gets it on a factual, pragmatic level, but in terms of *accepting* it, he's just going to pull the lever like a zombie, with practically no enthusiasm, and you can be sure absolutely no money in terms of donations.

He would have preferred anyone over John McCain three years ago. He would still prefer almost anyone over John McCain, including Mitt Romney. So I understand Dave's wigging out here. It's the Walking Wounded Election for Conservatives.

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Our party is in a funk. We are acting like liberals that need regular therapy. We had Hillary Clinton as the purported adversary, yet we did little. The field was not great, but neither were the voters. We did not turn out in powerful numbers, we did not give money in great amounts.

I do not know if it is the War, Bush fatigue or something else. I do know that conservatives as a large group, have not been very inspiring or powerful.

Complaining about McCain as our candidate is like complaining that Tiger Woods keeps winning tournaments. Politics is not about complaining you did not get your way, it is about GETTING your way. If we had so much better than McCain, then where were they, where were we? I am not looking for excuses, we have all heard those.

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Obama or reeducation via HillaryCare if we don't get our act together.

A big part of it by Raven

Is the fault of our State level parties and their "Open Primaries"

"Always be honest with yourself. Even if you are honest with no one else."
--me

So Dave's mad about the atmosphere of this place?

Maybe he's upset with a few recent blogs that have tried to divide our party:

Bitter? Da**** Right I'm Bitter -- Sending A Message To John McCain

Sending A Message To The Candidate -- Part Deux* (updated title)

Does ANY Candidate Want My Vote For President?

Sadly, it's probably best that he take leave until after the election. McCain is our nominee, you have to either work towards making him the 44th president, or if you can't do that, do something constructive to put conservatives and/or Republicans into elected office. Once he's elected, then we can pushing as hard as we can to the right.

Hope the time away gets your bp down, Dave.

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While I don't like so see anyone who has a decent point to make, there has been quite a few pointed sticks pointed towards anyone that does not have the same level of disdain for the nominee of the Republican party from the author of this Douglas Macarthur like farewell to the troops.

The Douglas Macarthur reference is indeed a pointed stick truth be told, intended to point out the diva like behavior of those "True Conservatives" now that their horse has fallen at or before the finish line (if that's not a mixed metaphor, I've never met one).

In closing, message to those divas of the base that insist that only they know what's best; "Get over yourself", you, your horse and your message lost the primaries because it's tired and stale as much as John McCain and moderates won. It's now time to ether turn to electing a Republican that is better than any Democrat or continue to cry in your Near Beer.

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chamber and not hear the beat of the heart of those not quite as moderate as you all are....diva's and all....we need not get over ourselves...we are committed to our ideals and for that we shall never be sorry!!!!!!

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Fine by SteveLA

Jaded Diva

Enjoy that crying in your Near Beer while the parade marches on. By the way the political world is marching on, and those that want to sit in the corner and pout because we're all not bowing to your superior point of view can enjoy the view as that parade goes by.

If us moderates have got it wrong, show us, but don't demand we pay obeisances to your superior views of the world just based on your own view of self importance, we'll listen, Democrats won't.

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Rockefeller, McCain 2000...

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Tim Schieferecke

Tim Schieferecke

Mike Huckahucka

Tom Tancredo

Sam Brownback

Rick Santorum

Tom Delay

All hard right candidates rejected or resigned from office who play hard ball smash mouth politics, well not really all. Huckahucka practices identity populism, he's a special case and unfortunately is not going away any time soon.

How about famous Republicans who were not Far Right ideologues but understood that government is based on the art of the compromise?

Ronald Wilson Reagan anyone?

Barry Goldwater?

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It's prima facie that Huckabee isn't. If you lived in Kansas, you'd know Sam Brownback isn't, at least when it comes to immigration.
Tim Schieferecke

Read it again by SteveLA

Brownback and Huckahuck are only hard right on the abortion issue, they seemly could care less about spending or illegal aliens, or defense or any other conservative issues.

I also qualified my remark about Huckhucka.

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It's hardly necessary now is it...and I don't even personally like him but I thought names were reserved for the opposition you know the D's not R's...

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Brownback's an across-the-board movement conservative; with the exception of immigration, on which there are real divisions in the movement, he's basically one of us.

Huck is another kettle of fish entirely, and describing him as "hard right" really bends the term beyond any meaning.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

time but being the great communicator he did not have to be so gentile all the time....I give you the one thing that tore up the Dems and that was his build-up of missiles in Europe and thus ending the Cold War in splendid fashion. Nope no sir no give and take there...masterful in communicating to real Americans the necessity of the task at hand.

Let's just say he did not dismiss his base to achieve what he wanted.

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He still pushed through virtually every agenda he stood for, and he did it with well communicated leadership. He took to the bully pulpit with a twinkle in his eye, a "well, there you go again", and an immovable optimism that was infectious. He stood on principle and won. The Republicans became spendaholic Democrat-not so lites and refused to listen to their base in 06 and got clobbered. Compromise for the sake of compromise is a cop out. If you do it too much, your bold colors become bleached out. Americans want strong leaders that take a stand.
Tim Schieferecke

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had the huevos to stand up for conservatism. If they could break out of their cocktails at Teds after "work" attitude of embracing our political enemies, America would be so much better off.
Tim Schieferecke

5! by GordonTaylor

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The GOP held the Senate from 1981 to 1987. From 1981 to 1983, Reagan had a working majority in the House composed of Republicans and Democratic "Boll Weevils". The Speaker of the House from 1981 to 1987, Tip O'Neill, had a deep respect for the presidency and knew how to fight with Reagan without letting it get personal.

Reagan got nothing much done in his last two years. The Dems took back the Senate and the highly partisan Jim Wright took over as Speaker.

obscure their revulsion of Reagan at the time as a right wing warmonger religious fundamentalist kook. Reagan was THE social conservative. He brought them in and WON. He wrote a book opposing abortion and the killing of the severely disabled. Yes, Reagan compromised at times, on economics, never of values, and so has Bush. No difference.

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nothing is passing us by...we are conservative...we wait...we will be back and you than shall cry in you near beer...politics is cyclical...I demand nothing of you but you certainly demand alot of those who disagree with your "moderate" take on Republicanism....it has been here before and it will go back to the right after McCain has his 4 years....enjoy your time in the sun.

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There needs to be a putting away of pointy sticks, by everyone.

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from disgracing himself by speaking to THE RACE.

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You're not hitting McCain at all with the pointy sticks.

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I think Darin's point by Dan McLaughlin

with which I agree, is that one doesn't generally get the attention of presidential candidates by demonstrating one's ability to get really angry in a comment thread on the internet.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Rev 3:16

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We are not God by Dan McLaughlin

ergo we must deal with the world as it is.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

errors in those blogs. Would facts "divide" our party? Are we about truth or not?

There is no basis for your opinion that the author of those blogs sought to "divide" our party.

I don't know what "bp" is, but I do know that your allegations of intended division are bs.

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but it is blood pressure

We all seem to have it up a few points lately.



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blood pressure by Darin H

I did not say there were any factual errors, I said the tone was bad - it's what Dave was complaining about. Seems like most everyone wants their own echo chamber here and there are a few that just want people to be civil to each other, count me in the latter.

I hope we can have disagreements over moderate/conservative/liberal without being disagreeable, maybe we can't.

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Why is that we must support the Maverick to be team players, but he doesn't need to support our team to be a team player.

We are not doing anytning to McCain that McCain himself hasn't done to conservatices (e.g. poke conservatives with pointy sticks).

Nothing wrong with letting people vent, complain, talk about things that will require placing pressure on McCain, etc.

So long as they aren't talking about voting for someone else or sitting on their hands, they are being maverick Republicans and should be embraced for following McCain's example.

5 maverick ;-) by Jaded

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Ooookay by Darin H

Gotcha, you believe that 2 wrongs make a right.

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I still appreciated his views. If we don't refine our arguments among friends, how are we going to fare against our enemies?

I also, do not prefer John McCain as the Republican candidate. I also had problems with the other candidates. The majority, however, seems to have spoken! In elections, the person with the bigger following wins.

All elections come down to a choice of the least objectionable candidate. You must choose which of the candidates you have a better chance of supporting your views. By voting for John McCain (I will) I firmly believe that MY views have a better chance of being heard in the White House. Senators Obama and Clinton represent nearly polar opposites of my views, the candidates in the minor parties haven't a snowball's chance in h**l of making it to the White House so even if they did hold my views exactly, they're not in the WH what good does that do? The goal is to have someone in the WH who has at least some of your views! The perfect candidate....not gonna happen!

Mr. Hinz has decided to withdraw from the fray, unfortunately that's one less view we can consider.

Good Luck Mr. Hinz

in spite of same is astounding and truly impressive!

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still welcome at RedState. But a man's gotta go where he is comfortable.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

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from time to time. Get your batteries charged Dave!

On a side note, the past few weeks have brought to mind all the reservations I had about McCain. While Rudy not aligned with the base on several issues, he just did not have the knack for driving people crazy that McCain has, which is why I supported him (and for his demonstrated leadership skills). But that was then, and now is now. McCain is much better than Obama or Clinton. We go into elections with the candidate we have, not the one we fantasize about.

So Vote McCain! Save the Earth from the Coneheads and Their Mass Quantities of Taxes!

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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

Understand Dave, by dbecraft

The old Republican party seems to have vanished! McCain as a Republican is a bit hard to swallow. I can only hope that this is just a 4 year aberration rather than what is to come.

Formally known as Deagle... "Golf is a way of life..."

The only thing that matters?

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

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Heh, touche' by birdmojo

I continually stand aghast at the amount of damage that Bush's policies (and Cheney's policies) have done to the party.

Yes, Bush's opponents are odious. Please understand that by my calling Bush's policies "bad" I am not endorsing the Democrats.

But there was a great deal of "bundling" going on with Bush. He stepped up after 9/11 and was exactly what the country needed.

But that doesn't make his immigration policies good.
That doesn't make his fiscal policies good.
That doesn't make his energy policies good.
That doesn't make, heck, his anything policies good.

But, for years, the defense against dang-near anything Bush did was a variant of either "the democrats would be worse" or "the War on Terror is the only thing that matters".

You can't keep saying "we'll deal with your issues after the election, your complaints are currently giving aid and comfort to the Democrats" without elections like 2006 following.

But I am merely repeating myself and others at this point.

And, to be sure, I keep thinking that the democrats can't be *THAT* dumb before a presidential election and, sure enough, they manage to exceed my wildest imaginings. Maybe they'll do it again.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

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Pretty important to some of us. Important but not the only thing.
(Note this is from a man that supported Rudy)


"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

Come to think of it by simpson316

There are a lot of regulars that have been missing lately.

Two that come to mind are absentee and BlackRepub. I think we are starting to see some fatigue.



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'cept ole absentee is an editor now, he's probably just off to India again or some darn place...

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absentee is alright by E Pluribus Unum

He's not on a sabbatical, he's kinda juggling a few extra things at the moment.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

I know by simpson316

I'm just selfish darn it. Redstate (by which I mean me) should be his most important priority.



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located here.

Kill the terrorists
Protect the borders
Punch the hippies
-- Frank J

He's been absent there lately too. Looks like he is living up to his name again.



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Thusly, I've had no time for my favorite site. I'll be back with a vengeance shortly, I promise-I might even have a special coming up tomorrow.

Rudy for President
Someone's got to punch the hippies.

Looking forward to it by simpson316

and congrats in advance.



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"The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of Heaven."

(Okay, it's from Milton)

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

MLK preached character content.

think

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To spoil rotten, we're hoping we can have a girl. Although h's already Daddy's boy, I can only imagine what Daddy's girl would look like. I'm excited and too crazy in love to look at politics, which for now make me only angry. If Bobby can fix the mess that's Louisiana, he'll fix the USA in 2016, we've survived Democrats before, we'll do it again. Both Democrats are lying about Iraq-no ones going to pull out. I'm waiting to see the VP of both party's-I haven't ruled out a protest vote for Obama-and I'll be registered in the swing state of Michigan.

Rudy for President
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Rudy for President
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